President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Liam]

I want Chick-fil-A

[The Sushi Hunter]

I was working at IBM when they moved the entire department to Arizona because operating cost in the state of Ca went up and it was cheaper for the company to move operations to AZ.

I was working at a very large company in the mid 2000s and the call center operations of our health care provider was outsourced to India, which means if we needed to call our health care provider, we would call a toll free number and we'd get someone from India on the other line. Same thing happens with phone service providers like AT&T. You call them on a toll free number and expect to be talking with someone in America and you find yourself talking with someone from India.

This is just some of what happens when large businesses have to pay more in taxes and whatnot, they make up the loss by moving the jobs out to places that have a much less operational cost. So the next time you want to suggest taxing larger companies more, think about this.

[conversationpc]

dude, get over it. youre hanging on to minor details. He did mention it as act of terrorism and against all your bets, instead of blaming things on Hillary (who took responsibility yesterday morning), Obama took full responsibility !
How did Bush react when act of terrorism was taking place on 9/11/01?

Wow, taking a few extra minutes to finish reading a story to small children. Boy, talk about minor details!

[Behshad]

dude, get over it. youre hanging on to minor details. He did mention it as act of terrorism and against all your bets, instead of blaming things on Hillary (who took responsibility yesterday morning), Obama took full responsibility !
How did Bush react when act of terrorism was taking place on 9/11/01?

Wow, taking a few extra minutes to finish reading a story to small children. Boy, talk about minor details!

Few extra minutes ?! What about flight 93 ?! minor details to you I'm sure

[conversationpc]

Few extra minutes ?! What about flight 93 ?! minor details to you I'm sure

He was done in that school and in contact with other government officials right around the same time they discovered flight 93 was hijacked.

And screw you for insinuating that the deaths of those folks on flight 93 was a minor detail to me. That's beyond the pale even for you and it's offensive to me particularly because it happened in my home state of Pennsylvania. I'd never accuse you of anything like that and I expect the same treatment in return.

[The Sushi Hunter]

At what timeframe was he notified of the issue during that morning on 9-11-01? Was those pictures taken when anyone knew exactly what was going on? When the planes were first reported hijacked, no one suspected that they were going to be used to ultimately dive bomb them into buildings until after they did it.

[SF-Dano]

A portion of the San Francisco Bay Bridge that has been going through a recent retrofit was manufactured and shipped over from China recently. Why is an American landmark bridge being made and shipped in from China?

This type of thing is happening now and not just when Romney becomes president if he wins this upcoming election. Obama talks about business in China like it's only going to happen if Romney becomes president. The truth is, it's been happening throughout Obama's presidency and I've not heard Obama squawking about it ever before the debates so chances are, it's just all talk on his part.

This is true about the Bay Bridge. Not just sections of the bridge, massive cranes were brought from China also. The project is being run by a Chinese company. And this damn re-do has been going on for the better part of a decade and it is only for the Oakland side of the bridge. I also let you in on the fact that the concrete contract for the bridge is also held by a foriegn owned company, CEMEX of Mexico. Ridiculous.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/bringing_ameri ... d=14592567

Remember the Northridge earthquake in So Cal back in 94, granted the work was on a smaller scale, but CC Myers (a US California Co.) had those freeways and overpasses fixed and running in like 2 months, well ahead of what was scheduled. What a botched opportunity at a crucial time for California's economy the whole Bay Bridge fiasco is. It should have been completed years ago. They are now saying mid 2013....Don't hold your breath.

I have absolutely no faith that Obama or Romney would change this stuff. I like Romney's talk of Tarriffs and leveling the playing field, I just don't buy into the fact that he will actually do it. I don't believe any of them anymore.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Yeah, CC Myers was used in one of our case study models in project management. That is one great company and the president is a real true businessman. If you remember the tanker truck that crashed on the Oakland side a number of years ago that took out the main freeways over there, CC Myers did that job as well and got it completed ahead of schedule. The incentive as outlined in the contract had a large part in getting this project done ahead of schedule.

[Memorex]

Weird. I just got a strange message on my Kindle Fire HD, and it was co-signed by my iPad. It said, "Mr. Grimmett, Please tell the folks at MelodicRock.com to fuck off and stop adding so many large pictures because the scrolling is getting ridiculous. PS. We tried to include your Blackberry, but it could not even begin to open the damn page."

Hmmm. Machines are taking over I guess.

[Memorex]

God help us. Seriously. Jimmy Kimmel Debate Prank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UrOmhH2PeI&list=UUa6vGFO9ty8v5KZJXQxdhaw&index=3&feature=plcp

[conversationpc]

GALLUP: R 51% O 45%

This is post-debate and it's the first time Romney has been above 50% in this poll, if I remember correctly.

[The Sushi Hunter]

GALLUP: R 51% O 45%

This is post-debate and it's the first time Romney has been above 50% in this poll, if I remember correctly.

Hate to say it but I'm still not convinced that these figures represent what the true voter turnout on election day is going will be. I'm sure my opinion is based on my location, as I'm in CA and all I see is BOzo 2012 bumper stickers and baseball caps as far as the eye can see.

[conversationpc]

GALLUP: R 51% O 45%

This is post-debate and it's the first time Romney has been above 50% in this poll, if I remember correctly.

Hate to say it but I'm still not convinced that these figures represent what the true voter turnout on election day is going will be.

In my opinion, it's either going to be Romney winning by 4 or 5% or a too-close-to-call toss-up.

[The Sushi Hunter]

GALLUP: R 51% O 45%

This is post-debate and it's the first time Romney has been above 50% in this poll, if I remember correctly.

Hate to say it but I'm still not convinced that these figures represent what the true voter turnout on election day is going will be.

In my opinion, it's either going to be Romney winning by 4 or 5% or a too-close-to-call toss-up.

I hope it's not a too-close-to-call toss-up cause that would mean another 2000 Sore/Loserman recount operation and I don't want to go through that whiny Dem pantywaste bullshit again.

[Memorex]

I'm starting to feel like Romney may win the popular vote and Obama wins the Electoral vote. Seems like it's going to be within a few points of each other. Maybe it all depends on Ohio.

[conversationpc]

I hope it's not a too-close-to-call toss-up cause that would mean another 2000 Sore/Loserman recount operation and I don't want to go through that whiny Dem pantywaste bullshit again.

I haven't heard that one before. Excellent!

[The Sushi Hunter]

I'm starting to feel like Romney may win the popular vote and Obama wins the Electoral vote. Seems like it's going to be within a few points of each other. Maybe it all depends on Ohio.

Probably right. I'm also wondering if anyone is hard at work producing bogus votes right now before the election.

[The Sushi Hunter]

I hope it's not a too-close-to-call toss-up cause that would mean another 2000 Sore/Loserman recount operation and I don't want to go through that whiny Dem pantywaste bullshit again.

I haven't heard that one before. Excellent!

Yeah, but I can't take credit on that cause I didn't make it up. It's out there already.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Rare-SORE- ... 48472ffd6a

[The Sushi Hunter]

I can just see election 2000 all over again this year.

[Behshad]

Karl Rove: No Candidate Has Ever Lost With Numbers Like Mitt Romney Has Today

Then I guess the whole Election Day thing is a joke. Lets just go by what Karl Rove says and announce Romney as our new president TODAY.

[Behshad]

[KenTheDude]

Karl Rove: No Candidate Has Ever Lost With Numbers Like Mitt Romney Has Today

Then I guess the whole Election Day thing is a joke. Lets just go by what Karl Rove says and announce Romney as our new president TODAY.

Sounds good to me. That would be the smart thing to do.

[Behshad]

In the 11 swing states, the president earns 50% of the vote to Mitt Romney’s 47%. One percent (1%) likes another candidate in the race, and another one percent (1%) undecided.

Obama is the only one of the candidates who has reached the 50% mark in the combined swing states. His support ranged from 50% to 51% for the first five days of this month, but those numbers faded and Romney bounced ahead following the president’s sub par performance in the first debate. Now that bounce is over. Because this survey is conducted on a rolling seven-day basis, nearly all of the responses in the latest survey come before the second presidential debate last night.

In 2008, Obama won these states by a combined margin of 53% to 46%, virtually identical to his national margin.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Well....what do you know.....Hey Behshad, lets test your claim now that you can admit that Obama is ever wrong.

The moderator in Tuesday night's presidential debate, after appearing to side with President Obama on the question of whether he called the Libya strike a terror attack from the start, conceded afterward that Mitt Romney was "right" on the broader point -- that the administration for days insisted it was a spontaneous act.
"He was right in the main. I just think he picked the wrong word," Candy Crowley said of Romney on CNN shortly after the debate ended.
Crowley was referring to the tense exchange in the final half-hour of the debate, when Romney questioned whether Obama had called the attack an "act of terror" rather than "spontaneous" violence that grew out of a protest against an anti-Islam video.
Crowley then intervened. Here's the exchange:
ROMNEY: I think (it's) interesting the president just said something which -- which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.
OBAMA: That's what I said.
ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror. It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you're saying?
OBAMA: Please proceed governor.
ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.
OBAMA: Get the transcript.
CROWLEY: It -- it -- it -- he did in fact, sir ... call it an act of terror.
Obama, indicating he thought he had just gotten a boost from the moderator, then chimed in: "Can you say that a little louder, Candy?"
However, Obama didn't explicitly label the Benghazi strike terrorism in those Sept. 12 remarks. What he did say is: "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation."
Crowley, during and following the debate, pointed out that despite Obama's Sept. 12 remarks his administration was peddling a different story to the public. She said it took two weeks for officials to say more definitively that the attack was more than an out-of-control protest.
And she continued to clarify on CNN that Romney was making a legitimate point.
"Right after that I did turn around and say, 'but you are totally correct that they spent two weeks telling us that this was about a tape'," she said.
Four days after Obama's Rose Garden remarks, Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., went on five networks' Sunday shows and cast the attack as hardly a coordinated strike by terrorists.
"We are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation," Rice said Sept. 16 on "Fox News Sunday." "The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control.
"But we don't see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack. Obviously, we will wait for the results of the investigation and we don't want to jump to conclusions before then. But I do think it's important for the American people to know our best current assessment."
State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney and other administration officials did little to discredit that assessment until Sept. 19, when Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, testified at a Senate hearing.
"Yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy," Olsen said.
Even so, Obama taped an interview on ABC's "The View" on Sept. 24, nearly two weeks after the attack, in which he declined to label the attack terrorism when asked. Instead, he would only go as far as to say the attack "wasn't just a mob action."
After the debate Tuesday, Obama tried to clarify his remarks. The man who posed the Libya question, Kerry Ladka, told Fox News that the president approached him after the debate to explain he delayed explicitly labeling the attack terror because "he really wanted to take the time to be deliberate, to make sure he had all the information."
There were several more factual slips during Tuesday's debate.
-- At one point, Obama repeatedly said "not true" when Romney claimed oil and gas leases and permits were down by half on federal property.
Romney was exaggerating a bit. But Obama also dismissed an overall trend that is demonstrated by the numbers. According to Bureau of Land Management figures, the number of new leases fell by roughly 42 percent in Obama's first three years in office, compared with the number in the last three years of the George W. Bush administration.
-- Romney, meanwhile, tried to assert that the price of gas should be the barometer for whether an energy policy is succeeding.
"The proof of whether (an energy) strategy is working or not is what the price is that you're paying at the pump. If you're paying less than you paid a year or two ago, why, then, the strategy is working. But you're paying more," Romney said.
However, global markets play a big role in setting the price of oil. Demand in the developing world likely would be a far bigger factor in determining that price than the U.S. president's domestic drilling platform.
-- Obama also claimed Romney said on "60 Minutes" that it was "fair" for somebody making $20 million a year to pay less in taxes than a nurse or bus driver.
Romney's statement, though, in that interview was broader than that. Romney said, when asked whether it's fair for investment income to be taxed less than the income of someone making $50,000 a year: "Yeah, I think that's the right way to encourage economic growth, to get people to invest, to start businesses, to put people to work."

[Memorex]

It's all right here from what I posted last night.

Listen at the 3:00 minute mark. He is insinuating it was the video. and doesn't really speak of the attack again until the 6:00 minute mark which is just a general comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0wllKURCq8


5 days later - Susan Rice on Fox news Sunday (similar to the other 4 shows she did that day).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk6s5FkObt0


Then this - 2 full weeks later - his answer on The View was that the reason for the attack is still under investigation. "Wasn't JUST a mob action". There was zero mob action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Qys-QEo9o&feature=context-shows&list=SL

And of course, the worst of it all (until tonight):

During his speech before the United Nations on Tuesday morning, President Barack Obama eulogized the murdered U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, reiterated American values of freedom and tolerance, and condemned both the “crude” Innocence of Muslims video and the “mindless” violent protests that have swept across the region in the last few weeks.

And Candy's correction tonight:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/17/cnns-crowley-backtracks-romney-right-in-the-main-on-benghazi/

[Rick]

A new poll actually found that 42 percent of Americans do not approve of Mitt Romney's running mate, which isn't too bad considering most Americans don't approve of Paul Ryan's running mate." –Jimmy Fallon

[Behshad]

A new poll actually found that 42 percent of Americans do not approve of Mitt Romney's running mate, which isn't too bad considering most Americans don't approve of Paul Ryan's running mate." –Jimmy Fallon

:lo:l

Good one !

[The Sushi Hunter]

A new poll actually found that 42 percent of Americans do not approve of Mitt Romney's running mate, which isn't too bad considering most Americans don't approve of Paul Ryan's running mate." –Jimmy Fallon

:lo:l

Good one !

Everyone knows you'd like that one Behshad.

[Behshad]

A new poll actually found that 42 percent of Americans do not approve of Mitt Romney's running mate, which isn't too bad considering most Americans don't approve of Paul Ryan's running mate." –Jimmy Fallon

:lo:l

Good one !

Everyone knows you'd like that one Behshad.

Everyone but you.

[The Sushi Hunter]

A new poll actually found that 42 percent of Americans do not approve of Mitt Romney's running mate, which isn't too bad considering most Americans don't approve of Paul Ryan's running mate." –Jimmy Fallon

:lo:l

Good one !

Everyone knows you'd like that one Behshad.

Everyone but you.

Your absolutely right this time Behshad.