President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[conversationpc]

This also seals the deal with health care reform.

That sucks...I'm on schedule now to lose $2500 a year because of this once the limits to FSAs go into effect. That's almost $210/month. That's going to hurt considering the medications that my daughter and wife have to take.

[conversationpc]

The Obama Campaign won this election decisively.

The whole point of my statement was that they DID NOT win decisively. I was really hoping for a win for either side that would have included at least a 5% win in the popular vote and well over 300 electoral votes. Neither happened.

[YoungJRNY]

Carlsberg. Probably the best beer in the world.

Where is my buddy FactFinder ?!

Want some Facts?

Baltimore Ravens 44, Bengals 13
Cleveland Browns 34, Bengals 24
Pittsburgh Steelers 24, Bengals 17
Barack Obama 274, Mitt Romney 203

[Behshad]

Carlsberg. Probably the best beer in the world.

Where is my buddy FactFinder ?!

Want some Facts?

Baltimore Ravens 44, Bengals 13
Cleveland Browns 34, Bengals 24
Pittsburgh Steelers 24, Bengals 17
Barack Obama 274, Mitt Romney 203

[steveo777]

Well, done is done and as Walter Cronkite used to say - That's the way it is. The choices in this election were far from perfect. No great one seems to ever want the job anymore.

[YoungJRNY]

Numbers out there that are showing Obama could just edge out Romney in the Popular Vote as well.

[brandonx76]

Where is Fact Finder ??

[slucero]

Quoting myself.. and what I expect will be what caused the Romney loss..

After what the GOP did at the convention, by changing the delegate rules when the delegate vote was clearly "no"... I expect enough Tea Party, Independent Conservative, Libertarian, and newly shocked & disgruntled Republicans will:

• write in a candidate,
• vote for Obama or
• simply stay away from the voting booth altogether.

The cost of the RNC fucking up at the convention... will be Romney losing those Tea Party, libertarian and independent conservative votes...

[Boomchild]

Well, it looks like were stuck with him, even thought the popular vote favored Romney by a huge number. Obama is gonna have a tough second term.

And if some of the people who feel his "plan" is not going to work and only make matters worse, we'll be the one's that suffer. Honestly, I have lost total faith in all of our elected officials. My greatest fear is that the Great America as we have known it is over and we are just at the edge of the cliff.

[steveo777]

Well, it looks like were stuck with him, even thought the popular vote favored Romney by a huge number. Obama is gonna have a tough second term.

And if some of the people who feel his "plan" is not going to work and only make matters worse, we'll be the one's that suffer. Honestly, I have lost total faith in all of our elected officials. My greatest fear is that the Great America as we have known it is over and we are just at the edge of the cliff.

We seem to be part of a larger plan, one I fear, we will not enjoy too much. Everything that is happening is happening by somebody's design, not the will of the people. This will be clearly more apparent once another 4 years have elapsed. WE will all be crying for meaningful change. When people start complaining about Obama in large numbers, we can then ask them, what did you do for that situation? Granted the President inherited a lot of problems, but I am also from that camp that believes he made the problems worse. He can take credit for the auto bailout, but any president that understood the gravity of the situation would have done the same thing. All he is doing is taking credit for things that would have or should have happened anyway, no matter who was in the driver's seat.

[Archetype]

Final RASMUSSEN: R 49% O 48%



Wow, less than 24 hours to go.

You're going to be quite disappointed with the election results. I know it.

Bookmarked again, for rub in your face fun tomorrow night.

Hey, you can start rubbing it in my face anytime you want now

"Fact" Finder, huh? You ought to change your name.

[Boomchild]

Well, it looks like were stuck with him, even thought the popular vote favored Romney by a huge number. Obama is gonna have a tough second term.

And if some of the people who feel his "plan" is not going to work and only make matters worse, we'll be the one's that suffer. Honestly, I have lost total faith in all of our elected officials. My greatest fear is that the Great America as we have known it is over and we are just at the edge of the cliff.

We seem to be part of a larger plan, one I fear, we will not enjoy too much. Everything that is happening is happening by somebody's design, not the will of the people. This will be clearly more apparent once another 4 years have elapsed. WE will all be crying for meaningful change. When people start complaining about Obama in large numbers, we can then ask them, what did you do for that situation? Granted the President inherited a lot of problems, but I am also from that camp that believes he made the problems worse. He can take credit for the auto bailout, but any president that understood the gravity of the situation would have done the same thing. All he is doing is taking credit for things that would have or should have happened anyway, no matter who was in the driver's seat.

The interesting thing is that he ran for his first term on "change" on the way Washington works and that he was going to bring both sides together. I would like for someone to explain to me what has changed in Washington and how it is different from before. Sure "it takes two to tango" however, there were things he said he would do that have nothing to do with getting Congress to agree. Such as a more "open government". Things like publicly posting bills before they are passed so citizens would be more informed. Remember the comment that Nancy P. made when asked about what's in the health care bill, "we have to pass it before people can see what's in it". Give me a break. The long and short of it is the corruption in our system runs deep and every one of them is in on it in one way or another.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Quoting myself.. and what I expect will be what caused the Romney loss..

After what the GOP did at the convention, by changing the delegate rules when the delegate vote was clearly "no"... I expect enough Tea Party, Independent Conservative, Libertarian, and newly shocked & disgruntled Republicans will:

• write in a candidate,
• vote for Obama or
• simply stay away from the voting booth altogether.

The cost of the RNC fucking up at the convention... will be Romney losing those Tea Party, libertarian and independent conservative votes...

you are right. the RNC ignored the ron paul wing of the party, they all got mad and tons of young people who might have been convinced to vote for Romney won..
That convention nonsense was a symptom of the problem that GOP doesn't understand the principles of liberty and support them in a manner which connects with a wide range of folks.

[pinkfloyd1973]

A friend posted on Facebook......Does this election matter even matter anyways? We only got a month and some odd days til the end of the world

[Behshad]

Where's RedWingFan when I need him the most. He is the one who bookmarked the bet post between Alan and I ! Please find it for me ?
Unless you are on your way to Washington to join the Donald Trump Revolution ?

[Liam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZTs1H9w6o

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Quoting myself.. and what I expect will be what caused the Romney loss..

After what the GOP did at the convention, by changing the delegate rules when the delegate vote was clearly "no"... I expect enough Tea Party, Independent Conservative, Libertarian, and newly shocked & disgruntled Republicans will:

• write in a candidate,
• vote for Obama or
• simply stay away from the voting booth altogether.

The cost of the RNC fucking up at the convention... will be Romney losing those Tea Party, libertarian and independent conservative votes...

you are right. the RNC ignored the ron paul wing of the party, they all got mad and tons of young people who might have been convinced to vote for Romney won..
That convention nonsense was a symptom of the problem that GOP doesn't understand the principles of liberty and support them in a manner which connects with a wide range of folks.

and surprise surprise there were a certain group of republicans who won some very tough seats ...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/07/ron-p ... use-races/

[DavidWT]

I don't understand why Romney did not have a concession speech planned. Nobody in their right mind thought Romney was guaranteed a victory last night, and while I understand that he had to be an optimist, he should have also been a realist. All the polls indicated that it was anyone's game. And there were even hints yesterday that showed Romney suspected he might lose. So why not plan accordingly, just in case? Fox news seemed genuinely pissed off at him for that.

[Liam]

[KenTheDude]

Wow, no shit. I wouldn't mind seeing that happen. I was talking about this very subject with a co-worker this morning. Working in Texas in the oil industry....I foresee 30-hour weeks for months on end AGAIN.

[Liam]

"Imma gona riot"

[conversationpc]

I don't understand why Romney did not have a concession speech planned. Nobody in their right mind thought Romney was guaranteed a victory last night, and while I understand that he had to be an optimist, he should have also been a realist. All the polls indicated that it was anyone's game. And there were even hints yesterday that showed Romney suspected he might lose. So why not plan accordingly, just in case? Fox news seemed genuinely pissed off at him for that.

Who cares what Fox News is pissed at? He gave a decent speech anyway. Probably doesn't need them written by someone else and read off a teleprompter.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Carlsberg. Probably the best beer in the world.

Where is my buddy FactFinder ?!

I'm right here, you won't believe this but I knew this election was over at about 7:50 last night before any big States were called, how did I know, I went down to the laundry room to throw some clothes in the dryer and found that the washer had backed up the sewer into the basement. I had a great night last night. I just simply wanted to sit down and watch the returns and get drunk for either a celebration or a good cry, I got to do neither.

Now I gotta go to Home Depot and rent a fucking snake, FUCK ME!

and FUCK YOU!.......gently of course.

No congratulations from me but you guys got what you wanted so you better make it work. I don't have much hope.

PM an address and the Carslberg is on the way, after I take care of the fucking mess I've got here.

It might be worth pointing out you are actually the winner here, in a way that will likely become clear upon reflection. If Romney would have won he would have shit all over what you believe on, leaving you with a fouls stench in your nostrils worse than that laundry disaster you face. And what you believe in wont face the blame for the mess thats coming down the pipe.

[DavidWT]

I don't understand why Romney did not have a concession speech planned. Nobody in their right mind thought Romney was guaranteed a victory last night, and while I understand that he had to be an optimist, he should have also been a realist. All the polls indicated that it was anyone's game. And there were even hints yesterday that showed Romney suspected he might lose. So why not plan accordingly, just in case? Fox news seemed genuinely pissed off at him for that.

Who cares what Fox News is pissed at? He gave a decent speech anyway. Probably doesn't need them written by someone else and read off a teleprompter.

I'm not denying it was a good speech, I just don't understand why he wouldn't have prepared it in advance when it was pretty clear that he might not win. As for reading off a teleprompter, I don't think either of them were reading their speeches off of teleprompters last night (or rather, this morning.)

[conversationpc]

Something to keep in mind...

After we win this election, it's our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don't forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won't be a problem for us this time.

[Archetype]

Final RASMUSSEN: R 49% O 48%



Wow, less than 24 hours to go.

You're going to be quite disappointed with the election results. I know it.

Bookmarked again, for rub in your face fun tomorrow night.

Hey, you can start rubbing it in my face anytime you want now

"Fact" Finder, huh? You ought to change your name.

FUCK YOU and your Soviet Flag. Go suck Putins cock.

Jeeze, you're sure singing a different tune today? What happened? Weren't you so sure of a Romney victory? Did he lose?

[The Sushi Hunter]

The election turned out pretty much the way I was anticipating it to turn out. No surprises there. When they elected the moron the first time, who’s to say they wouldn’t elect him a second term? They wanted the token black president for that entire reason alone and they weren’t yet ready to let that go, regardless of how he and his administration fucked shit away for this country.

The very first time I remember following the ongoing results was during the Carter / Reagan election. And back then even though I was way too young to vote and didn’t understand politics all that much, after that election was over that night and the results were all in, I often wondered shortly after that night how things would have went for America had Carter actually won instead of Reagan.

With last night’s election we’re going to now see how a fucked up president and a fucked up administration who fucked away America over the past four years now can further fuck away this country over the next four years. That’s the great thing about this situation that we are in now. No one will ever know how a Romney/Ryan leadership would have been, but we do know how the Obama/Biden leadership operates based on the last four years. It’s going to be the same old shit but just a different term is all.

[The Sushi Hunter]

MARKET NEWS: Dow dives 350+ points, sinks below 13,000

Yeah I just read that. This is going to be a fucking great next four years. During the second term Obama can now blame all the current problems on his previous four years in office.

[Behshad]

Good Morning Alan First of, sorry about your bad night last night , I was predicting that you would have a bad night, but never thought it would be the washer

I would like to donate my Carlsberg funds towards your Homedepot rental.

However, I think we had this bet that I 'm sure you remember ( Thanks RedWingFan ) :


http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... start=3570

[Liam]

LMMFAO

http://www.theonion.com/video/after-oba ... f-p,30284/