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Postby Boomchild » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:54 am

Monker wrote:
Memorex wrote:I know the government has my info. Obviously. And I could understand them taking information from say, this forum. But an email between me and anyone else should be considered private. Period. And no current or future law makes gathering that info without a warrant right.


You guys are so naive.

So, what is going to stop the government of Brittan having intelligent offices in the US used to monitor every Email sent via the internet...and what is to stop US intelligence from giving Brittan the technology to do this? And, what is to stop Brittan from freely giving the info to the US government?

Get over it....it's monitored - ALL OF IT. The data is filtered by super computers looking for anything interesting and then it's flagged. I would be shocked if people in this very forum have not been looked into. You would never know it if it happened.


It's more so what they do with the information. As a general rule you shouldn't post something on the net that you wouldn't want someone else to know.
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Postby slucero » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:57 am

Right or wrong, once we look at the last 40 years, the country as a whole is moving from right to left.

We see the symptoms of this via an in the increase in moral hazard (a situation where a party will have a tendency to take risks because the costs that could incur will not be felt by the party taking the risk)

And see it manifest in the socialization of debt via:
  • bailouts,
  • too big to fail,
  • loan principle write downs,
  • the suspension of the mark-to-market rule for banks,
  • the outright purchase of debt by government entities (Fanny, Freddy),
  • and the outright purchase of debt by the Federal Reserve (currently the largest purchase of bonds (debt).


It also manifests it self in a growth in government and it's intrusion into our lives.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


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Postby Boomchild » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:02 pm

Memorex wrote:Oh my gosh. I hope you know i was being very sarcastic. I guess I thought I made my views on taxes well known around here. No, raising taxes on the rich will do exactly zero to help our issue. But it sounds good on TV, huh?


It's hard to tell sometimes because their are lot of people that are blind as a bat and make statements like this and really believe what they are saying. I remember the lady interviewed after Obama won his first term and was so excited that she "wasn't going to have to pay her mortgage anymore". Sorry but I was not following all of your previous posts.
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Postby Monker » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:03 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Memorex wrote:I know the government has my info. Obviously. And I could understand them taking information from say, this forum. But an email between me and anyone else should be considered private. Period. And no current or future law makes gathering that info without a warrant right.


You guys are so naive.

So, what is going to stop the government of Brittan having intelligent offices in the US used to monitor every Email sent via the internet...and what is to stop US intelligence from giving Brittan the technology to do this? And, what is to stop Brittan from freely giving the info to the US government?

Get over it....it's monitored - ALL OF IT. The data is filtered by super computers looking for anything interesting and then it's flagged. I would be shocked if people in this very forum have not been looked into. You would never know it if it happened.


It's more so what they do with the information. As a general rule you shouldn't post something on the net that you wouldn't want someone else to know.


You are so 20th century.

It's not just 'stuff posted on the internet'. It is EVERY online communication. It is EVERY satellite communication.

Broaden your fucking vision for 5mins...think of EVERY single activity you have ever done on the internet. Every single cell phone conversation you have ever had. The government knows all about it. That's the truth.

It's not something that started under Obama. It started under Bush. No, not W...the other one. Maybe even Reagan.

This is all VERY old news. Get caught up to the 20th century folks. The only thing that has changed is the activity no longer needs to be hidden, or done through 'loopholes'.
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Postby Boomchild » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:08 pm

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Behshad wrote:
Memorex wrote:Oh my gosh. I hope you know i was being very sarcastic. I guess I thought I made my views on taxes well known around here. No, raising taxes on the rich will do exactly zero to help our issue. But it sounds good on TV, huh?



:lol:

Leave it to Boomchild , whoever the fuck that is, to take that post of yours seriously. No sense of humor apparently and a troll trying to play devils advocate here. Just when I though Sushi was the boring one who wouldn't understand sarcasm , his twin shows up. :roll:


LOL...someone is calling Boom Boom a troll....too funny.

I've been saying that for years.


Why thank you for that. Yes you have been saying that just like a skipping record in addition to usually not being able to get your viewpoint across without taking personal pot shots at other posters.
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Postby Boomchild » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:14 pm

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Memorex wrote:I know the government has my info. Obviously. And I could understand them taking information from say, this forum. But an email between me and anyone else should be considered private. Period. And no current or future law makes gathering that info without a warrant right.


You guys are so naive.

So, what is going to stop the government of Brittan having intelligent offices in the US used to monitor every Email sent via the internet...and what is to stop US intelligence from giving Brittan the technology to do this? And, what is to stop Brittan from freely giving the info to the US government?

Get over it....it's monitored - ALL OF IT. The data is filtered by super computers looking for anything interesting and then it's flagged. I would be shocked if people in this very forum have not been looked into. You would never know it if it happened.


It's more so what they do with the information. As a general rule you shouldn't post something on the net that you wouldn't want someone else to know.


You are so 20th century.

It's not just 'stuff posted on the internet'. It is EVERY online communication. It is EVERY satellite communication.

Broaden your fucking vision for 5mins...think of EVERY single activity you have ever done on the internet. Every single cell phone conversation you have ever had. The government knows all about it. That's the truth.

It's not something that started under Obama. It started under Bush. No, not W...the other one. Maybe even Reagan.

This is all VERY old news. Get caught up to the 20th century folks. The only thing that has changed is the activity no longer needs to be hidden, or done through 'loopholes'.


Of course it's in all forms of communication never said it was just the net. I said nothing to the effect that this was due to any specific administration, politician or political party.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:22 am

slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I'm only using FB and Google as examples. I've not read their terms of agreement since I don't have any accounts set up with them. Bottom line here is regardless of what site, if personal information is being put on a server somewhere regardless of how much they say it's secure and all, it's not. The government gets involved because they go after the companies with the servers to get the information.


Now you are making an anecdotal claim. That's your opinion. Your entitled to it... at least for now, until the laws are changed so you aren't....


I'm not one of those who will be shit shocked that personal information is being gathered by the Government via internet servers. I don't need a facebook or Google account filled with my personal information stored on a web server somewhere and then have that information leaked out, or ceased by the government in order to figure it out that it's a huge mistake feeding personal information into the internet, regardless.


If you think not having a FB or Google account will keep you "safe"... the government doesn't need access to internet servers to get your personal info... they never have.

Ever serve in the military?
File Taxes?

Just where do you think all that information is stored Einstein? Right.. on a server... on a network...

New's flash ... you freely gave it to them... so they already have that info...

You are the very definition of "sheeple".


That's not the information I'm talking about.
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Postby slucero » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:36 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I'm only using FB and Google as examples. I've not read their terms of agreement since I don't have any accounts set up with them. Bottom line here is regardless of what site, if personal information is being put on a server somewhere regardless of how much they say it's secure and all, it's not. The government gets involved because they go after the companies with the servers to get the information.


Now you are making an anecdotal claim. That's your opinion. Your entitled to it... at least for now, until the laws are changed so you aren't....


I'm not one of those who will be shit shocked that personal information is being gathered by the Government via internet servers. I don't need a facebook or Google account filled with my personal information stored on a web server somewhere and then have that information leaked out, or ceased by the government in order to figure it out that it's a huge mistake feeding personal information into the internet, regardless.


If you think not having a FB or Google account will keep you "safe"... the government doesn't need access to internet servers to get your personal info... they never have.

Ever serve in the military?
File Taxes?

Just where do you think all that information is stored Einstein? Right.. on a server... on a network...

New's flash ... you freely gave it to them... so they already have that info...

You are the very definition of "sheeple".


That's not the information I'm talking about.



what - your login passwords? Where you live now? Who your friends/family are? How big your dick is?

Unless you actually define what the fuck you mean by "personal information", we're never gonna know what yer talking about then...

So far you've flip-flopped all over the damn place..


Say what you mean son..

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Postby Monker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:42 am

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Memorex wrote:I know the government has my info. Obviously. And I could understand them taking information from say, this forum. But an email between me and anyone else should be considered private. Period. And no current or future law makes gathering that info without a warrant right.


You guys are so naive.

So, what is going to stop the government of Brittan having intelligent offices in the US used to monitor every Email sent via the internet...and what is to stop US intelligence from giving Brittan the technology to do this? And, what is to stop Brittan from freely giving the info to the US government?

Get over it....it's monitored - ALL OF IT. The data is filtered by super computers looking for anything interesting and then it's flagged. I would be shocked if people in this very forum have not been looked into. You would never know it if it happened.


It's more so what they do with the information. As a general rule you shouldn't post something on the net that you wouldn't want someone else to know.


You are so 20th century.

It's not just 'stuff posted on the internet'. It is EVERY online communication. It is EVERY satellite communication.

Broaden your fucking vision for 5mins...think of EVERY single activity you have ever done on the internet. Every single cell phone conversation you have ever had. The government knows all about it. That's the truth.

It's not something that started under Obama. It started under Bush. No, not W...the other one. Maybe even Reagan.

This is all VERY old news. Get caught up to the 20th century folks. The only thing that has changed is the activity no longer needs to be hidden, or done through 'loopholes'.


Of course it's in all forms of communication never said it was just the net. I said nothing to the effect that this was due to any specific administration, politician or political party.


Read your own post. You said it's not the information they have, it's what they do with it. Bullshit. It's the information they have...despite what they do with it.

EVERY piece of electronic communication and satellite communication has been monitored for decades...without the public consent, or knowledge. That is wrong...regardless of how they "use" that information.

But, in this age, they are going to do it anyway. Not nearly enough people care.
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Postby Monker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:44 am

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Memorex wrote:Oh my gosh. I hope you know i was being very sarcastic. I guess I thought I made my views on taxes well known around here. No, raising taxes on the rich will do exactly zero to help our issue. But it sounds good on TV, huh?



:lol:

Leave it to Boomchild , whoever the fuck that is, to take that post of yours seriously. No sense of humor apparently and a troll trying to play devils advocate here. Just when I though Sushi was the boring one who wouldn't understand sarcasm , his twin shows up. :roll:


LOL...someone is calling Boom Boom a troll....too funny.

I've been saying that for years.


Why thank you for that. Yes you have been saying that just like a skipping record in addition to usually not being able to get your viewpoint across without taking personal pot shots at other posters.


LOL...I'm just such a bad ass. You are really in the wrong forum if you can't handle 'pot shots'. Too funny.
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Postby Monker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:51 am

slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I'm only using FB and Google as examples. I've not read their terms of agreement since I don't have any accounts set up with them. Bottom line here is regardless of what site, if personal information is being put on a server somewhere regardless of how much they say it's secure and all, it's not. The government gets involved because they go after the companies with the servers to get the information.


Now you are making an anecdotal claim. That's your opinion. Your entitled to it... at least for now, until the laws are changed so you aren't....


I'm not one of those who will be shit shocked that personal information is being gathered by the Government via internet servers. I don't need a facebook or Google account filled with my personal information stored on a web server somewhere and then have that information leaked out, or ceased by the government in order to figure it out that it's a huge mistake feeding personal information into the internet, regardless.


If you think not having a FB or Google account will keep you "safe"... the government doesn't need access to internet servers to get your personal info... they never have.

Ever serve in the military?
File Taxes?

Just where do you think all that information is stored Einstein? Right.. on a server... on a network...

New's flash ... you freely gave it to them... so they already have that info...

You are the very definition of "sheeple".


That's not the information I'm talking about.



what - your login passwords? Where you live now? Who your friends/family are? How big your dick is?

Unless you actually define what the fuck you mean by "personal information", we're never gonna know what yer talking about then...

So far you've flip-flopped all over the damn place..


Say what you mean son..


I think what he means is Arnel's reasons for using second microphone is his own personal information that nobody needs to know about, including the government. If it was found out Arnel was really an ancient alien, put in place by Steve Perry, it would ruin Journey's future. But, really, doesn't the cover to Frontiers give it all away? Just as Perry starts taking over the band, he starts injecting alien influences into the cover art? And, the ROR cover? Only ancient aliens possess the power needed to create an electrical arc between two radio towers like that. And, TBF...a walking cat person? WTF kinda DNA experimentation has Perry been involved in? I know he's all into cats, but creating a cat chick? He is one sick dude!
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Postby Rick » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:12 am

Monker wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I'm only using FB and Google as examples. I've not read their terms of agreement since I don't have any accounts set up with them. Bottom line here is regardless of what site, if personal information is being put on a server somewhere regardless of how much they say it's secure and all, it's not. The government gets involved because they go after the companies with the servers to get the information.


Now you are making an anecdotal claim. That's your opinion. Your entitled to it... at least for now, until the laws are changed so you aren't....


I'm not one of those who will be shit shocked that personal information is being gathered by the Government via internet servers. I don't need a facebook or Google account filled with my personal information stored on a web server somewhere and then have that information leaked out, or ceased by the government in order to figure it out that it's a huge mistake feeding personal information into the internet, regardless.


If you think not having a FB or Google account will keep you "safe"... the government doesn't need access to internet servers to get your personal info... they never have.

Ever serve in the military?
File Taxes?

Just where do you think all that information is stored Einstein? Right.. on a server... on a network...

New's flash ... you freely gave it to them... so they already have that info...

You are the very definition of "sheeple".


That's not the information I'm talking about.



what - your login passwords? Where you live now? Who your friends/family are? How big your dick is?

Unless you actually define what the fuck you mean by "personal information", we're never gonna know what yer talking about then...

So far you've flip-flopped all over the damn place..


Say what you mean son..


I think what he means is Arnel's reasons for using second microphone is his own personal information that nobody needs to know about, including the government. If it was found out Arnel was really an ancient alien, put in place by Steve Perry, it would ruin Journey's future. But, really, doesn't the cover to Frontiers give it all away? Just as Perry starts taking over the band, he starts injecting alien influences into the cover art? And, the ROR cover? Only ancient aliens possess the power needed to create an electrical arc between two radio towers like that. And, TBF...a walking cat person? WTF kinda DNA experimentation has Perry been involved in? I know he's all into cats, but creating a cat chick? He is one sick dude!


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Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:14 am

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Memorex wrote:I know the government has my info. Obviously. And I could understand them taking information from say, this forum. But an email between me and anyone else should be considered private. Period. And no current or future law makes gathering that info without a warrant right.


You guys are so naive.

So, what is going to stop the government of Brittan having intelligent offices in the US used to monitor every Email sent via the internet...and what is to stop US intelligence from giving Brittan the technology to do this? And, what is to stop Brittan from freely giving the info to the US government?

Get over it....it's monitored - ALL OF IT. The data is filtered by super computers looking for anything interesting and then it's flagged. I would be shocked if people in this very forum have not been looked into. You would never know it if it happened.


It's more so what they do with the information. As a general rule you shouldn't post something on the net that you wouldn't want someone else to know.


You are so 20th century.

It's not just 'stuff posted on the internet'. It is EVERY online communication. It is EVERY satellite communication.

Broaden your fucking vision for 5mins...think of EVERY single activity you have ever done on the internet. Every single cell phone conversation you have ever had. The government knows all about it. That's the truth.

It's not something that started under Obama. It started under Bush. No, not W...the other one. Maybe even Reagan.

This is all VERY old news. Get caught up to the 20th century folks. The only thing that has changed is the activity no longer needs to be hidden, or done through 'loopholes'.


Of course it's in all forms of communication never said it was just the net. I said nothing to the effect that this was due to any specific administration, politician or political party.


Read your own post. You said it's not the information they have, it's what they do with it. Bullshit. It's the information they have...despite what they do with it.

EVERY piece of electronic communication and satellite communication has been monitored for decades...without the public consent, or knowledge. That is wrong...regardless of how they "use" that information.

But, in this age, they are going to do it anyway. Not nearly enough people care.


Of course it's wrong. I don't support it. Since it seems people have been not effective in stopping these types of intrusions I'm more concerned on what they do with the information.
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:21 am

Monker wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Memorex wrote:Oh my gosh. I hope you know i was being very sarcastic. I guess I thought I made my views on taxes well known around here. No, raising taxes on the rich will do exactly zero to help our issue. But it sounds good on TV, huh?



:lol:

Leave it to Boomchild , whoever the fuck that is, to take that post of yours seriously. No sense of humor apparently and a troll trying to play devils advocate here. Just when I though Sushi was the boring one who wouldn't understand sarcasm , his twin shows up. :roll:


LOL...someone is calling Boom Boom a troll....too funny.

I've been saying that for years.


Why thank you for that. Yes you have been saying that just like a skipping record in addition to usually not being able to get your viewpoint across without taking personal pot shots at other posters.


LOL...I'm just such a bad ass. You are really in the wrong forum if you can't handle 'pot shots'. Too funny.


If I "couldn't handle" pot shots as you put it, I wouldn't still be posting here would I? I'm merely pointing out that you can never seem to discuss anything you don't agree on without turning things in to personal attacks and insults. Which I guess makes you feel better about yourself in some way. So, whatever floats your boat. Carry on.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:35 pm

http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/v ... for_aliens
Local lawmakers are fuming over an Obama administration policy promoting welfare and EBT benefits for immigrants, with a “welcome” package and promotional website that encourage new arrivals to take advantage of the nation’s generous government largesse.

“I think it’s a complete outrage that we’re encouraging people coming here to get on public assistance,” said state Rep. Shaunna O’Connell, a Taunton Republican who has fought for EBT reform. “We should be encouraging people to be self-sufficient. These programs are rampant with fraud and abuse.”


These entitlement gifts are how you buy a vote. WTG! Four more years of this kind of crap, further wrecking our country. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:44 pm

steveo777 wrote:http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20221119outrage_over_fed_ebt_push_for_aliens
Local lawmakers are fuming over an Obama administration policy promoting welfare and EBT benefits for immigrants, with a “welcome” package and promotional website that encourage new arrivals to take advantage of the nation’s generous government largesse.

“I think it’s a complete outrage that we’re encouraging people coming here to get on public assistance,” said state Rep. Shaunna O’Connell, a Taunton Republican who has fought for EBT reform. “We should be encouraging people to be self-sufficient. These programs are rampant with fraud and abuse.”


These entitlement gifts are how you buy a vote. WTG! Four more years of this kind of crap, further wrecking our country. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


More like the end of our country. Guess the terrorists that are planning attacks on American soil can shelve em' because were doing a perfectly good job of destroying ourselves. It seems our entitlement programs are what this administration feels is the new "American Dream" that immigrants should be striving for.
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Postby slucero » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:50 pm

Monker wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
slucero wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I'm only using FB and Google as examples. I've not read their terms of agreement since I don't have any accounts set up with them. Bottom line here is regardless of what site, if personal information is being put on a server somewhere regardless of how much they say it's secure and all, it's not. The government gets involved because they go after the companies with the servers to get the information.


Now you are making an anecdotal claim. That's your opinion. Your entitled to it... at least for now, until the laws are changed so you aren't....


I'm not one of those who will be shit shocked that personal information is being gathered by the Government via internet servers. I don't need a facebook or Google account filled with my personal information stored on a web server somewhere and then have that information leaked out, or ceased by the government in order to figure it out that it's a huge mistake feeding personal information into the internet, regardless.


If you think not having a FB or Google account will keep you "safe"... the government doesn't need access to internet servers to get your personal info... they never have.

Ever serve in the military?
File Taxes?

Just where do you think all that information is stored Einstein? Right.. on a server... on a network...

New's flash ... you freely gave it to them... so they already have that info...

You are the very definition of "sheeple".


That's not the information I'm talking about.



what - your login passwords? Where you live now? Who your friends/family are? How big your dick is?

Unless you actually define what the fuck you mean by "personal information", we're never gonna know what yer talking about then...

So far you've flip-flopped all over the damn place..


Say what you mean son..


I think what he means is Arnel's reasons for using second microphone is his own personal information that nobody needs to know about, including the government. If it was found out Arnel was really an ancient alien, put in place by Steve Perry, it would ruin Journey's future. But, really, doesn't the cover to Frontiers give it all away? Just as Perry starts taking over the band, he starts injecting alien influences into the cover art? And, the ROR cover? Only ancient aliens possess the power needed to create an electrical arc between two radio towers like that. And, TBF...a walking cat person? WTF kinda DNA experimentation has Perry been involved in? I know he's all into cats, but creating a cat chick? He is one sick dude!


LOL....

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Postby steveo777 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:32 pm

Any clue who this guy voted for, for President? I bet I know! BTW, Judge Judy for President in 2016!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... L-a-r7iJIU
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:06 pm

steveo777 wrote:Any clue who this guy voted for, for President? I bet I know! BTW, Judge Judy for President in 2016!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... L-a-r7iJIU


I don't think he even knows how to vote. But, the way our voting system works I am sure someone voted for him.
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Postby Boomchild » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:20 pm

Fact Finder wrote:RED FRIDAY: Treasury Borrowed $24.3 BILLION on Day After Thanksgiving...

$211.69 Per Household...


wow, does that mean the fed will be sending me a check for that amount? I feel entitled to it! 8)
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:04 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:RED FRIDAY: Treasury Borrowed $24.3 BILLION on Day After Thanksgiving...

$211.69 Per Household...


wow, does that mean the fed will be sending me a check for that amount? I feel entitled to it! 8)


Ummm, No! You got fucked and will be sore and blistered for the next 4 years....but that's not all, there's more!

This will be epic fail, unless you're a liberal, but it will still be epic fail, when all the handouts end, as some people are getting pissed and will set about making this country right again. If Obama were not in office there would be elections based on qualifications and none of this catering to the minority vote kind of shit that we've seen this year. Never have I seen a more racially influenced presidential election than this one. (fuck you slucero) The very fact that any politician even bothers to focus on a racial demographic tells me so. We just went backwards about 47 years, but don't take my word for it.
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Postby Boomchild » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:15 pm

steveo777 wrote:
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Fact Finder wrote:RED FRIDAY: Treasury Borrowed $24.3 BILLION on Day After Thanksgiving...

$211.69 Per Household...


wow, does that mean the fed will be sending me a check for that amount? I feel entitled to it! 8)


If Obama were not in office there would be elections based on qualifications and none of this catering to the minority vote kind of shit that we've seen this year.


As much as I am not a supporter of Obama, I don't think you can lay the blame at his feet for this issue. It's been this way for years. Think back to when Clinton ran for office. People have been voting on the likeability, personality and other things that have nothing to do with the person's qualifications for the job. Which is part of the whole problem. Now that's not to say that the hype of electing the first President with a African American background was not in play with Obama. It certainly was. But this kind of thing didn't originate with him.
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Postby slucero » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:54 pm

steveo777 wrote:
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Fact Finder wrote:RED FRIDAY: Treasury Borrowed $24.3 BILLION on Day After Thanksgiving...

$211.69 Per Household...


wow, does that mean the fed will be sending me a check for that amount? I feel entitled to it! 8)


Ummm, No! You got fucked and will be sore and blistered for the next 4 years....but that's not all, there's more!

This will be epic fail, unless you're a liberal, but it will still be epic fail, when all the handouts end, as some people are getting pissed and will set about making this country right again. If Obama were not in office there would be elections based on qualifications and none of this catering to the minority vote kind of shit that we've seen this year. Never have I seen a more racially influenced presidential election than this one. (fuck you slucero) The very fact that any politician even bothers to focus on a racial demographic tells me so. We just went backwards about 47 years, but don't take my word for it.


You are such a fucking racist PUSSY... and a moron...

It will fail.. but from the economics.. not the election. Romney would not have been able to do anything either. Faith in either party is a fools errand.. and if you ever believed Romney could change anythng, you are the chief fool.

Once again, you have no FACTS to back up your point.. only your bigoted, racist attitude... I see you asked that the thread be deleted. Was it because you can't have people see you for what you REALLY ARE? Did you ask you wife or BIL to read the thread? No, of course not. You asked Andrew to delete it.. about what I'd expect from a middle aged, white racist.

You have no integrity. No honor.

So Fuck YOU.


Regarding your NO FACT, racist post above...

The reason Romney lost is because the RNC fiasco fractured the Republican party, and 50% of the Independent, Libertarian and Tea Party voters wrote in their choice or stayed home, guaranteeing a loss.

The Brookings Institute studied exactly what you are saying.... here's the study: http://www.brookings.edu/research/opini ... tions-frey

Read a little and maybe you'll push some of that hate outta your mind.. (but I DOUBT it). The part that totally REFUTES your racist, backwater, uneducated perspective is below:

The minority/eligible voter disconnect.

The minority representation in the total population overstates its presence among eligible voters because our fastest growing minorities are either too young to vote or are less likely to be citizens, even when here legally.

For every 100 Hispanic residents in the United States, only 44 are eligible voters aged 18 and over and U.S. citizens.

In contrast, 78 of every 100 white residents are able to vote. In this respect, Asians are more like Hispanics and blacks are more like whites.

So even though minorities are growing faster than whites overall, the latter are more heavily represented among eligible voters (71 percent) than in the total population (63 percent).

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Absent the aforementioned loss of independent voters to the RNC fiasco.. The FACT is that the RISE in minority voters was not offset by enough "white" voter turn out... even though white voters, who are now a minority in this country, still represent 71% of the voting public. And you just can't stand that, so you blame the liberal minorities... who ironically just happen to have always BEEN a part of the electorate (just like the conservative minorities), it's just now the liberal minority vote has enough weight to make a difference, and the "white" vote ain't cutting it anymore. Maybe instead of bitching about it, get off your ass, educate, champion and convert some liberal minorities to the conservative cause, maybe even get a minority conservative Republican elected to the WH.. hell the Dems got a black man in... better do something, because waiting for a white conservative majority return to the "glory days" is a wet dream.

Get over it. All that hate is gonna kill you.
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Postby Boomchild » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:42 pm

slucero wrote:It will fail.. but from the economics.. not the election. Romney would not have been able to do anything either. Faith in either party is a fools errand.. and if you ever believed Romney could change anythng, you are the chief fool.


I would agree. I lost faith with both parties years ago. In my opinion. we have already reached the point of no return to stop an economic collapse. All these politicians are doing is playing a shell game, sticking their fingers in a dike that will fail or however you want to describe it. At this point people should be getting ready to live their lives very differently (not in good way) then they ever expected to see living in the "Greatest Country In The World". This is going to make the Great Depression look like a small speed bump. Were in for a shock, it's just that not enough people realize it or are so distracted by something else they don't see it coming.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:48 am

slucero wrote:It will fail.. but from the economics.. not the election. Romney would not have been able to do anything either. Faith in either party is a fools errand.. and if you ever believed Romney could change anythng, you are the chief fool.


Your comment is pathetic at best because how can you say he couldn't have fixed it when no one gave him a chance by electing him. Now had he been elected president and wasn't able to fix it during his term, yes then your comment would have been accurate.
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Postby slucero » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:58 am

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slucero wrote:It will fail.. but from the economics.. not the election. Romney would not have been able to do anything either. Faith in either party is a fools errand.. and if you ever believed Romney could change anythng, you are the chief fool.


Your comment is pathetic at best because how can you say he couldn't have fixed it when no one gave him a chance by electing him. Now had he been elected president and wasn't able to fix it during his term, yes then your comment would have been accurate.


Pathetic is you giving your opinion.. without stating any facts...

Here's how I can say it.. and prove it. All you need to do is do some research on the interwebs Einstein.. Looks at history.. it's been repeating itself for the last 80 years... Since the 1930's the size of government has done nothing but GROW regardless of which party is in the White House... that doesn't happen by "accident"... nor is any siting POTUS unaware of it happening...

from FDR to Obama.. the size of government has grown...which means spending has grown... year over year, so thinking another Republican (Romney), or Dem for that matter, is suddenly gonna change anything, is no different than believing Obama was going to.

History (facts) indicates otherwise. But "Don't Stop Believing"... maybe the next candidate will be "the one"... :roll:


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Now you'll say, "all that money is for welfare", which has grown.. but nowhere near the pace or cost of the federal workforce or federal government.

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Now go find some data to prove your opinion, which is actually just a worthless, ignorant "guess" without any fact to support it... or shut the fuck up.

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:25 am

Slucero, your simply just a wannabe tough guy hiding behind a keyboard and internet connection.

So you probably would have said the same thing about Reagan had he not been elected. You simply can not tell what would have happened, unless you have some type of psychic powers or a crystal ball. And FUCK YOUr bullshit data charts and graphs. Utilize common sense and you would know for a fact that you can't tell what would have happened if he's not been given the opportunity and chance.
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Postby slucero » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:58 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Slucero, your simply just a wannabe tough guy hiding behind a keyboard and internet connection.

So you probably would have said the same thing about Reagan had he not been elected. You simply can not tell what would have happened, unless you have some type of psychic powers or a crystal ball. And FUCK YOUr bullshit data charts and graphs. Utilize common sense and you would know for a fact that you can't tell what would have happened if he's not been given the opportunity and chance.



ah I see.. can't refute the facts so you personally attack me... typical. I just like facts. You just like your opinion. Which in this case is wrong. And if not supported with facts, is merely a guess...

Actually the charts say the same about about Reagan, relative to government growth, that they say about all presidents since FDR, but since you choose to not read, or maybe simply can't understand charts and facts, you miss the point.


So using your definition of commons sense, you should have no problem jumping off a bridge..make it a very tall one.. because, by your definition, "you can't tell what would have happened", so you just may survive. Maybe you could take a guess at it using your " psychic powers or a crystal ball"?

Or maybe your common sense would make you think "hmmm... I know that people who have jumped off tall bridges usually die.. so I think I won't."

You would "know for a fact" that because there would be historical fact on the topic, "common sense" would indicate that those facts are a pretty good indicator of a result for the same activity. Or you could always take a chance, leap off the tall bridge and prove historical fact wrong.. or use the facts history provides and your common sense.


But I guess for you, common sense is just out the window.. since, just as is the case with Romney or any other Republican or Democrat, you'd rather guess.. enjoy your Darwin Award.

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:29 am

There is something definitely wrong with your thought process Slucero (among other things) if you think for one second that I attacked you first. I replied to your comment without using profanity and what I got in return via your response was personal derogatory comments laced with profanities.

Again, it's a pathetic comment to say Romney wouldn't have fixed the economy had he been elected, because since he's not been elected, no one can say what he could or could not have done while in office.
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Postby slucero » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:53 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:There is something definitely wrong with your thought process Slucero (among other things) if you think for one second that I attacked you first. I replied to your comment without using profanity and what I got in return via your response was personal derogatory comments laced with profanities.

Again, it's a pathetic comment to say Romney wouldn't have fixed the economy had he been elected, because since he's not been elected, no one can say what he could or could not have done while in office.


I never said you attacked me 1st... and one does not have to use profanity to personally attack another.

  • You initially called my post "pathetic"... yet offered no facts (only your unsupported opinion) to refute it. THAT is personally attacking ME, and not refuting the facts supporting my opinion. You opened the door.
  • Then you called me a "wannabe tough guy hiding behind a keyboard and internet connection." - another personal attack.
  • Then you posted "FUCK YOUr bullshit data charts and graphs" - again personally attacking me, and again not refuting the facts supporting my opinion.
  • And finally again, above you stick to your "if it never happened we'll never know" hypothesis, which you cannot factually support, and call my comment pathetic... which again, is still a personal attack.


... and you think I have a problematic thought process... (btw - that's ALSO a personal attack)


Had you focused SOLELY on the topic.. provided an opinion you could PROVE, and the data to support it.. we could actually debate the merits of the topic.. hell I'd prefer that... but instead you simply attacked me and never refuted a thing.

I'll apologize to you right now for the profanity.. as long as you stop confusing your opinions with facts, and focus on the topic and not the person.

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