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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue May 28, 2013 11:52 pm

Memorex wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
slucero wrote:The only way to change this stranglehold/quagmire that is Washington is to remove the law that give business the same rights as the individual, that's called "corporate personhood".. the elimination of which, would effectively put corporations where they belong, BEHIND the citizen, and render corporate lobby illegal. Yes.. corporations legally enjoy the same rights as individual citizens.. even though the Constitution only spoke to individual rights....


I agree that corporations should not be able to lobby like they can. But as you said that will never happen. Also, I think there needs to be term limits set for Congressmen and Senators just like there are term limits for the Presidency.


I do think things need to be fixed, but most of congress' laws affect business anyway. So if the voice of business is taken away or minimized, what protections do they have?

Unfortunately, America is business. We work more than most. We consume more than most. And we really tout that American Dream of building your own business. There are so many laws and regulations already that strangle business. I can't imagine what it would be if they were not allowed to participate. Could you imagine if the FCC or EPA or any of these government organizations could do all the things they want to business? Remember, most people in government wrongly believe that business is inherently evil. And if you have an entity like that making the laws that control business, well, someone has to be able to fight back.

Besides that, if anyone goes to the voting booth and votes based only on what businesses told them to vote on, then they shouldn't be voting anyway.


I don't think that anyone feels that business\corporations should not have a voice. It's just that they shouldn't have the same rights and protections as individuals do.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue May 28, 2013 11:59 pm

John McCain meet with Syrian rebels. People are speculating that this is to further the idea of providing weapons to them. In fact, some are making the case that weapons were being run to them already which has a connection to Benghazi. If this is true I just think it's a real boneheaded move to be supplying these rebels when we really are not sure who these rebels are.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby tater1977 » Wed May 29, 2013 12:09 am

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tater1977 wrote:So now connect the dots from the Feds raiding Gibson guitar 2 years ago, specifically their CEO...to the IRS ....
Could get interesting.... :roll: :roll:


you should just post the article...

Does that Gibson Guitar raid make more sense now? (Think IRS)
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An editorial at Investors Business Daily may wind up being filed under how did I miss this one? Following the recent revelations of cases where the administration appears to have used the muscle of the federal government to go after its political enemies, IBD takes a walk down memory lane to the strange case of Gibson Guitars and the federal raids on their facilities for alleged illegal importing of exotic woods used in their products. They reach one provocative conclusion.

The inexplicable raid nearly two years ago on a guitar maker for using allegedly illegal wood that its competitors also used was another targeting by this administration of its political enemies…

Interestingly, one of Gibson’s leading competitors is C.F. Martin & Co. According to C.F. Martin’s catalog, several of their guitars contain “East Indian Rosewood,” which is the exact same wood in at least 10 of Gibson’s guitars. So why were they not also raided and their inventory of foreign wood seized? Well, let’s see… maybe C.F. Martin was getting their supplies from a properly regulated source? No. Did they fill out some forms that Gibson forgot to submit? No… so what could it be?

Grossly underreported at the time was the fact that Gibson’s chief executive, Henry Juszkiewicz, contributed to Republican politicians. Recent donations have included $2,000 to Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., and $1,500 to Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.

By contrast, Chris Martin IV, the Martin & Co. CEO, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the Democratic National Committee over the past couple of election cycles.

“We feel that Gibson was inappropriately targeted,” Juszkiewicz said at the time, adding the matter “could have been addressed with a simple contact (from) a caring human being representing the government. Instead, the government used violent and hostile means.” The end of that story was a travesty, with Gibson being forced to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in a settlement where there was no finding of criminal action just so they could get back to business. At the time of the judgement, our own Mary Katharine Ham covered the story and found a lot wrong with it, but even she didn’t seem to suspect this situation. And in retrospect, it doesn’t seem all that surprising.

While all this was going on, there was plenty of reason to suspect that there was politics of some sort involved. With Democrats in control of the White House and the Senate, it didn’t seem much of a stretch to think that the eco-warriors were in full throated, chest thumping mode and they would be pushing the limits to show how much they were doing to save the planet. The Gibson story, with its hook of endangered forests and evil manufacturing giants stripping the land, was a perfect fit. But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company which supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone. Or at least I didn’t.

Is this paranoid, tinfoil hat territory? I assure you that Obama supporters reading this will declare it to be exactly that. But given what we’ve been finding in the news recently, is it really that far fetched? Not any more.




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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby slucero » Wed May 29, 2013 3:28 am

Eric Holder now under the front of the bus.. crapping his pants .


House Judiciary investigating whether Holder lied under oath
By Jonathan Easley - 05/28/13 12:03 PM ET

The House Judiciary Committee is investigating whether Attorney General Eric Holder lied under oath during his May 15 testimony on the Justice Department’s (DOJ) surveillance of reporters, an aide close to the matter told The Hill.

The panel is looking at a statement Holder made during a back and forth with Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) about whether the DOJ could prosecute reporters under the Espionage Act of 1917.

“In regard to potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material -- this is not something I’ve ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy,” Holder said during the hearing.

However, NBC News reported last week that Holder personally approved a search warrant that labeled Fox News chief Washington correspondent James Rosen a co-conspirator in a national security leaks case.

The panel is investigating whether NBC’s report contradicts Holder’s claim that he had not looked into or been involved with a possible prosecution of the press in a leaks case.

Holder’s testimony at the hearing came before Justice’s actions against Rosen had become public. The hearing was held after The Associated Press revealed the Department of Justice had secretly subpoenaed its phone records in a separate leaks investigation.

Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (Wis.), the second-ranking Judiciary Committee Republican, told The Hill that Holder should resign.

He accused Holder of misleading the panel during the investigation of the Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation, and again when he claimed to not know about the AP probe.

“As we saw in Fast and Furious and are seeing now, Attorney General Holder refuses to hold himself accountable,” he said. “He misled the Judiciary Committee under oath when he said he had not heard about Fast and Furious and he misled us again when he claimed to be unaware of the AP scandal. The head of DOJ should be someone the American people can trust. Attorney General Holder should resign.”

The DOJ seized Rosen’s personal emails and used other surveillance methods to investigate whether he was complicit in a leak of classified information. It also examined Rosen’s phone records and tracked his visits to the State Department using security-badge data during the 2009 probe.

Justice filed legal papers saying Rosen may have acted as “an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator” by getting materials from a government official also under investigation.

The investigation was primarily focused on rooting out Rosen’s source, said a State Department worker who is facing federal charges for disclosing classified national security information and could see a trial as soon as next year.

The DOJ has also faced criticism over its seizure of phone records belonging to the AP. Unlike the Rosen case, the AP was never a target of that investigation.

The House voted to find Holder in contempt over his refusal to turn over documents to lawmakers on Fast and Furious, an operation in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms purposely allowed guns to be illegally purchased in the United States and Mexico in the hope they could be tracked.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed May 29, 2013 8:08 am

Here's the current Administration's cooked off "Train Wreck" caught on tape. The "narrator" must think so too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99JxxWMNh44
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby slucero » Thu May 30, 2013 1:42 pm

DOJ morons.. wow


D.C. Bureau Chiefs Aren't Interested in Holder's Off-the-Record Meeting
http://news.yahoo.com/d-c-bureau-chiefs ... 45274.html

The Justice Department's hearts and minds campaign to the media just hit a snag: The Associated Press and the New York Times have refused to attend a meeting with Eric Holder on law enforcement and the first amendment, because the department wants the session to be off the record. Given that the AP and the New York Times were both recently the subjects of DOJ leaks investigations that involved subpoenas for communication records of journalists, it's kind of hard to blame them.

“We will not be attending the session at DOJ. It isn’t appropriate for us to attend an off the record meeting with the attorney general. Our Washington bureau is aggressively covering the department’s handling of leak investigations at this time...Evidently, there will be a future session with department officials on the substance of how the law should be applied in leak cases and I am hopeful that our counsel, David McCraw will be able to participate in that meeting."

And the Associated Press soon followed suit, also via Politico:

"We believe the meeting should be on the record and we have said that to the Attorney General’s office. If it is on the record, AP Executive Editor Kathleen Carroll will attend. If it is not on the record, AP will not attend and instead will offer our views on how the regulations should be updated in an open letter. We would expect AP attorneys to be included in any planned meetings between the Attorney General’s office and media lawyers on the legal specifics."

According to the Huffington Post's Michael Calderone, HuffPo is also out of the meeting if it's off the record, while the Washington Post is in:

"WaPo's Baron will attend Holder meeting; HuffPost's @ryangrim says "off-the-record would not fly." wapo.st/113fSyW
— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) May 29, 2013


Now, it's time to wait and see what the other invited bureau chiefs will do. Or, if Holder and co. will decide to put the meeting on the record after all.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby steveo777 » Thu May 30, 2013 1:50 pm

Off the record? Silly fucks. This is not going to be "off the record" and simply swept under the rug. I still contend that people are attempted to be silenced. This is a bad state of affairs. If only Nixon had the same luxuries. There is great stench of corruption in this administration. Where there is smoke there is fire, but that is too simplistic.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu May 30, 2013 1:53 pm

steveo777 wrote:Off the record? Silly fucks. This is not going to be "off the record" and simply swept under the rug. I still contend that people are attempted to be silenced. This is a bad state of affairs. If only Nixon had the same luxuries. There is great stench of corruption in this administration. Where there is smoke there is fire, but that is too simplistic.


And we have only seeing the tip of the iceberg.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri May 31, 2013 3:39 am

BOzo & Sloppy Joe, and the clown posse administration. All the corruption being exposed now, this prez and his pathetic administration is the most fucked up in American history, running this country completely into the fucking ground. Yet BOzo was handed a fucking Nobel Peace Prize....for what?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby slucero » Fri May 31, 2013 6:40 am

Chicago politics at its best...

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby slucero » Fri May 31, 2013 7:06 am

Apparently the IRS is very important to the President..


IRS’s Shulman had more public White House visits than any Cabinet member

Publicly released records show that embattled former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman visited the White House at least 157 times during the Obama administration, more recorded visits than even the most trusted members of the president’s Cabinet.

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Obama officials who’ve visited the White House (As prepared by The Daily Caller)

Shulman’s extensive access to the White House first came to light during his testimony last week before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. Shulman gave assorted answers when asked why he had visited the White House 118 times during the period that the IRS was targeting tea party and conservative nonprofits for extra scrutiny and delays on their tax-exempt applications.

By contrast, Shulman’s predecessor Mark Everson only visited the White House once during four years of service in the George W. Bush administration and compared the IRS’s remoteness from the president to “Siberia.” But the scope of Shulman’s White House visits — which strongly suggests coordination by White House officials in the campaign against the president’s political opponents — is even more striking in comparison to the publicly recorded access of Cabinet members.

An analysis by The Daily Caller of the White House’s public “visitor access records” showed that every current and former member of President Obama’s Cabinet would have had to rack up at least 60 more public visits to the president’s home to catch up with “Douglas Shulman.”

The visitor logs do not give a complete picture of White House access. Some high-level officials get cleared for access and do not have to sign in during visits. A Washington Post database of visitor log records cautions, “The log may include some scheduled visits that did not take place and exclude visits by members of Congress, top officials and others who are not required to sign in at security gates.”

The White House press office declined to comment on which visits by high-ranking officials do and do not get recorded in the visitor log, but it is probable that the vast majority of visits by major Cabinet members do not end up in the public record.

Nevertheless, many visits by current and former Cabinet members are in the logs, and the record depicts an IRS chief uniquely at home in the White House.

Attorney General Eric Holder, President Obama’s friend and loyal lieutenant, logged 62 publicly known White House visits, not even half as many as Shulman’s 157.

Former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, to whom Shulman reported, clocked in at just 48 publicly known visits.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton earned a cool 43 public visits, and current Secretary of State John Kerry logged 49 known White House visits in the same timeframe, when he was still a U.S. senator.

Shulman has more recorded visits to the White House than HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (48), DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano (34), Education Secretary Arne Duncan (31), former Energy Secretary Steven Chu (22) and former Defense Secretary Robert Gates (17) combined.

The Daily Caller’s analysis includes current, former and presently-nominated members of Obama’s Cabinet.

After Shulman, Acting Secretary of Commerce Rebecca Blank (86), Asst. Attorney General Thomas Perez (83) and Penny Pritzker (76) — Obama’s nominee for Commerce Secretary — have the most publicly known White House visits.

The sheer volume of Shulman’s White House visits has left congressional investigators puzzled.

“What would be some of the reasons you might be at the White House?” Virginia Democratic Rep. Gerry Connolly asked Shulman during a congressional hearing last week.

“Um, the Easter Egg Roll with my kids,” Shulman replied. “Questions about the administrability of tax policy they were thinking of; our budget; us helping the Department of Education streamline application processes for financial aid.”

Shulman said it “would not have been appropriate” to tell the White House about the IRS’s intimidation of conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status.

That answer has done nothing to mollify the critics.

“Is it really believable that someone who had a Wall Street career before coming to Washington five years ago was so politically naïve that he didn’t see the potential for scandal in that information and give the White House a heads-up?” Commentary’s John Steele Gordon wondered Tuesday.

“Sooner or later this [question] will have to be answered,” tweeted Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume, “What was the ex-IRS chief doing at the White House all those times?”

Shulman’s integrity has come under fire in recent weeks as he — in the face of congressional investigators — failed to recant his March 2012 testimony, during which he insisted that the IRS was not targeting conservative groups.

Public White House records are incomplete, with records only showing visits after September 15, 2009. The White House releases several months of records at a time. The last few months should be released later this year.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri May 31, 2013 7:16 am

slucero wrote:Image


Yeah, saw that a bit ago. Pretty damn interesting since BOzo claims to know absolutely nothing at all about the targetting of specific groups by the IRS.

I think they are going to try and keep this issue within the boundaries of the IRS even though it's really looking like it's going to be spilling over into other bodies within the government.

That chick that plead the 5th.....she had to have been given the green light by higher ups within the chain of command. It's probably amazing the volumes of what is being shredded right now behind closed doors.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby slucero » Fri May 31, 2013 10:51 am

Last week all the IRS data storage has been seized and backed up to a storage facility controlled by the Congressional Committee investigating.. they just need to comb through the data..

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Liam » Fri May 31, 2013 1:30 pm

No..they just need to delete shit to make this Commie, Obama safe. Thank you all who voted for this piece of shit again. :x
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby steveo777 » Fri May 31, 2013 2:12 pm

Liam wrote:No..they just need to delete shit to make this Commie, Obama safe. Thank you all who voted for this piece of shit again. :x


I did not vote for Obama, but I will vote for him next time, if I have a say about whether he remains in office! Two thumbs down!!!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby verslibre » Fri May 31, 2013 5:05 pm

This is a paste so don't fault me if these quotes or the speakers are not accurate. :wink:


The liberals are asking us to give Obama time.
We agree. . .and think 25 to life would be
appropriate.
--Jay Leno

America needs Obama-care like Nancy
Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno

Q: Have you heard about McDonald's'
new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you
has to pay for it.
--Conan O'Brien

Q: What does Barack Obama call
lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
--Jay Leno

Q: What's the difference between
Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers,
and threats to society. The other is for housing
prisoners.
--David Letterman

Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were
on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it
started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America !
--Jimmy Fallon

Q: What's the difference between
Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
--Jimmy Kimmel

Q: What was the most positive result
of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper
stickers off the road.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Memorex » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:58 am

Ouch.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/05/30/rate-shock-in-california-obamacare-to-increase-individual-insurance-premiums-by-64-146/

I always wonder why if you support something, you can't just come out with honest data. Politicians are always trying to hide things. If you have to hide it, it likely sucks.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Liam » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:39 am

Now....when Letterman does something like that....ya KNOW it's bad. He's a flaming liberal.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:25 am

Liam wrote:Now....when Letterman does something like that....ya KNOW it's bad. He's a flaming liberal.


Exactly what I was thinking.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:39 am

Did you know it's racist to oppose ObamaCare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 754cP25fK4
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Liam » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:41 am

steveo777 wrote:Did you know it's racist to oppose ObamaCare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 754cP25fK4


Oh darn...I'm racist. :lol:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:29 pm

steveo777 wrote:Did you know it's racist to oppose ObamaCare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 754cP25fK4


Anything that opposes or a has a negative viewpoint on the liberal\progressive agenda is considered to be racist.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby artist4perry » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:06 am

Boomchild wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Did you know it's racist to oppose ObamaCare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 754cP25fK4


Anything that opposes or a has a negative viewpoint on the liberal\progressive agenda is considered to be racist.


I heard that lady say that...what a stupid argument...It makes her sound like an idiot. So if an African American opposes Obama Care he is a racist? Her argument is the equivalent of a child in a playground saying Oh yeah? Well your momma is fat.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:31 pm

artist4perry wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Did you know it's racist to oppose ObamaCare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 754cP25fK4


Anything that opposes or a has a negative viewpoint on the liberal\progressive agenda is considered to be racist.


I heard that lady say that...what a stupid argument...It makes her sound like an idiot. So if an African American opposes Obama Care he is a racist? Her argument is the equivalent of a child in a playground saying Oh yeah? Well your momma is fat.


A lot of times when this card is pulled, it's due to the fact that the person using it cannot explain or defend what is being questioned or deal with the truth.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:34 pm

Fact Finder wrote:The IRS asked these employees to preserve all the "responsive documents" on their computers, and it has been in the process of collecting it all to comply with congressional requests for information. The IRS missed its May 21st deadline to turn over documents to the House Ways and Means Committee.


So I am to assume that this information\communication\data is not archived by a separate agency in case an investigation is needed?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:48 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:The IRS asked these employees to preserve all the "responsive documents" on their computers, and it has been in the process of collecting it all to comply with congressional requests for information. The IRS missed its May 21st deadline to turn over documents to the House Ways and Means Committee.


So I am to assume that this information\communication\data is not archived by a separate agency in case an investigation is needed?


Probably not. The shredders and hard drive wipers must be working overtime. In the end, caveat emptor. The only truth that would come out, if it could, would be from whistle blowers. You know they are gonna be silenced, as is the slimy way of this corrupt administration.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:36 pm

This one is a bit bigger:

http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/06/l ... ocked.html

"The evidence in this criminal case is overwhelming and undeniable. The only identifying document that Barack Obama has ever presented to the American public is a 100% verifiable forgery and fraudulent document. It is a criminal offense to use fraudulent documents to gain political office - much less the office of POTUS and Commander-in-Chief. We knew that once we could get this information before the public, and especially lawmen, congressmen, attorneys, and legal officials - we could get the ball rolling on a congressional investigation. We have some shocked officials at this conference. Think of it - all these lawmen, lawmakers, and legal officials just saw the evidence - not one has challenged the legal credibility of what we have. The ball is now rolling."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvG1hdK ... e=youtu.be

I've never been a "birther", but the evidence is mounting. Whatever this collaberative investigation has turned up, it's about ready to rain and its heavy. If this team turns out to be right I'm gonna be really pissed that this BS was allowed to continue for as long as it has.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby conversationpc » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:41 am

steveo777 wrote:This one is a bit bigger:

http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/06/l ... ocked.html

"The evidence in this criminal case is overwhelming and undeniable. The only identifying document that Barack Obama has ever presented to the American public is a 100% verifiable forgery and fraudulent document. It is a criminal offense to use fraudulent documents to gain political office - much less the office of POTUS and Commander-in-Chief. We knew that once we could get this information before the public, and especially lawmen, congressmen, attorneys, and legal officials - we could get the ball rolling on a congressional investigation. We have some shocked officials at this conference. Think of it - all these lawmen, lawmakers, and legal officials just saw the evidence - not one has challenged the legal credibility of what we have. The ball is now rolling."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvG1hdK ... e=youtu.be

I've never been a "birther", but the evidence is mounting. Whatever this collaberative investigation has turned up, it's about ready to rain and its heavy. If this team turns out to be right I'm gonna be really pissed that this BS was allowed to continue for as long as it has.


I've made fun of birthers since that conspiracy theory first surfaced and even did an article on my blog against it. I have to admit that some of the things that've come out over the last year or so have given me pause to at least consider it a bit more.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:47 pm

steveo777 wrote:This one is a bit bigger:

http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/06/l ... ocked.html

"The evidence in this criminal case is overwhelming and undeniable. The only identifying document that Barack Obama has ever presented to the American public is a 100% verifiable forgery and fraudulent document. It is a criminal offense to use fraudulent documents to gain political office - much less the office of POTUS and Commander-in-Chief. We knew that once we could get this information before the public, and especially lawmen, congressmen, attorneys, and legal officials - we could get the ball rolling on a congressional investigation. We have some shocked officials at this conference. Think of it - all these lawmen, lawmakers, and legal officials just saw the evidence - not one has challenged the legal credibility of what we have. The ball is now rolling."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvG1hdK ... e=youtu.be

I've never been a "birther", but the evidence is mounting. Whatever this collaberative investigation has turned up, it's about ready to rain and its heavy. If this team turns out to be right I'm gonna be really pissed that this BS was allowed to continue for as long as it has.


What if in fact this is true. Does anyone think it's now going to effect B.O. being in office?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

Postby steveo777 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:21 pm

If this turns out true and it does not effect Obama remaining in office we are fucked. This will no longer be the USA. From there the country will be run by dictators and corrupt leaders. The credit rating of the USA will be stripped and what used to be the USA will become a third world country, of who's laws will be enforced by Muslims. I could see this happening.
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