President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[steveo777]

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The hoopla over that was just ridiculous. The owner of the RS, hopefully will tell those PC assholes who are demanding them to change the name, to fuck off and die in a fire! As Deano would say "I hope they taste their own blood".

[tater1977]

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The hoopla over that was just ridiculous. The owner of the RS, hopefully will tell those PC assholes who are demanding them to change the name, to fuck off and die in a fire! As Deano would say "I hope they taste their own blood".

With all the BO BS going on and closing of national parks and them making owners of businesses that have a
lease with the govt...they made them close up their businesses and those that live there, they made them move
out of their homes ..until the govt shutdown is over..
Just been wondering...why the hell BO is still in the WH? Isn't that on FED govt land??

& Yes my mind does wander ..w/o letting me knowing where it goes

[tater1977]

Robert Gibbs Calls for Firings Over 'Excruciatingly Embarrassing' Obamacare

http://youtu.be/l_jBbLMuJnM


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[hoagiepete]

EBT (Food Stamp) shoppers in Louisiana, go on "shopping spree" due to glitch in EBT system. Got to love it!

"Shelves at Walmart stores in Louisiana were cleared in a shopping frenzy over the weekend after a glitch in the Electronic Benefits Transfer system allowed government food stamp recipients to make purchases without spending limits."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10 ... e-through/

Can't believe this hasn't gotten more press. They should all have to give it back, pay for it, or go to prison. This is the society we have to deal with. Sickening. Has any activist said they are embarrassed by this?

[Boomchild]

EBT (Food Stamp) shoppers in Louisiana, go on "shopping spree" due to glitch in EBT system. Got to love it!

"Shelves at Walmart stores in Louisiana were cleared in a shopping frenzy over the weekend after a glitch in the Electronic Benefits Transfer system allowed government food stamp recipients to make purchases without spending limits."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10 ... e-through/

Can't believe this hasn't gotten more press. They should all have to give it back, pay for it, or go to prison. This is the society we have to deal with. Sickening. Has any activist said they are embarrassed by this?

I can believe it. Your dealing with a mainstream press that is biased. In my opinion, these people should at least have their benefits suspended or revoked. If children are involved and the parent(s) have no other way to provide food for those children then CPS should take custody of them.

[steveo777]

10/16/2013 - We do get fucked again.
So now what? They kicked the can down the road for a few months and we're just gonna be grappling with the same shit again in a few months, another CR. Why can't we just establish a budget and pass it? The GOP really fucked this up by not standing united. Obamacare is going to be expensive and when the time comes to pass another CR, what do you want to bet Obama is gonna want to raise the debt ceiling again? The economy will be going downhill by then.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I seem to remember Nancy shoving a healthcare law down our throats with only Dem votes, or did I dream that?

A healthcare law based on leftover "conservative" ideas from the Heritage foundation, and months wasted trying to negotiate with GOP clowns in good faith. Would the GOP have passed any healthcare reform bill, short of national tort reform - (which is really code for stripping Americans of their right to a trial) - the answer is no. So fuck you guys.

[steveo777]

The next order of business is going to be amnesty for illegals.....then get them on Obamacare.

[Memorex]

Think of all the people that were upset that they were furloughed (even though with pay) and tonight they are probably saying, "Shit! I have to go to work in the morning."

[Boomchild]

10/16/2013 - We do get fucked again.
So now what? They kicked the can down the road for a few months and we're just gonna be grappling with the same shit again in a few months, another CR. Why can't we just establish a budget and pass it? The GOP really fucked this up by not standing united. Obamacare is going to be expensive and when the time comes to pass another CR, what do you want to bet Obama is gonna want to raise the debt ceiling again? The economy will be going downhill by then.

I wasn't expecting anything different. Behind the scenes they are all working together for the same goals. There may be one or two that are looking to do the right thing for this country. But they are out numbered and do not stand a chance. Next stop immigration reform, get ready for it.....

[slucero]

10/16/2013 - We do get fucked again.
So now what? They kicked the can down the road for a few months and we're just gonna be grappling with the same shit again in a few months, another CR. Why can't we just establish a budget and pass it? The GOP really fucked this up by not standing united. Obamacare is going to be expensive and when the time comes to pass another CR, what do you want to bet Obama is gonna want to raise the debt ceiling again? The economy will be going downhill by then.

Congress has not passed a real federal budget since 1997.

Read the bill..its only 35 pages.. https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http ... hrome=true

Obamacare hasn't been funded.


Obamacare appropriations will also have to be funded periodically, just like the rest of government is.. so expect there to more fights over this.

[Rick]

The next order of business is going to be amnesty for illegals.....then get them on Obamacare.

Let me pose this question/idea to you, Steveo. Why not grant them amnesty? At that point, they get a SSN and begin paying into the system instead of just taking from it. It will create population growth, and with growth comes opportunity. Schools, hospitals, grocery stores, homes, apartments, gas stations and everything else you can imagine have to be built and stocked with employees. What's the downside?

[steveo777]

The next order of business is going to be amnesty for illegals.....then get them on Obamacare.

Let me pose this question/idea to you, Steveo. Why not grant them amnesty? At that point, they get a SSN and begin paying into the system instead of just taking from it. It will create population growth, and with growth comes opportunity. Schools, hospitals, grocery stores, homes, apartments, gas stations and everything else you can imagine have to be built and stocked with employees. What's the downside?

Rick, if I broke into your house and occupied it, would I be arrested, or would you give me amnesty? First of all, they comitted a crime when they crossed the border illegally. Population growth? They're already breeding like Rabbits and we do build more apartments. Have you heard of section 8 housing? Grocery stores? Yes, we have a newer Walmart superstore, near all these new section 8 apartments. If you go in there, you'll feel like you're in a foreign country. Most crime around here like rape, murder, theft, drug dealing, etc., are comitted by illegals. That said, you can't just give 11,000,000 blanket amnesty. The border needs to be sealed and the bad elements dealt with and deported. Get rid of the safe haven policies some cities have and get the border control agents back to work, rather than what they have now, which is basically non-enforcement. Yes, get all that done and maybe we can consider amnesty for some.

[StoneCold]

The next order of business is going to be amnesty for illegals.....then get them on Obamacare.

Let me pose this question/idea to you, Steveo. Why not grant them amnesty? At that point, they get a SSN and begin paying into the system instead of just taking from it. It will create population growth, and with growth comes opportunity. Schools, hospitals, grocery stores, homes, apartments, gas stations and everything else you can imagine have to be built and stocked with employees. What's the downside?

... Population growth? They're already breeding like Rabbits ...

Longshanks: "If we can't get them out, we'll breed them out."

This seems to be part of the plan. Anchor babies, etc.

[StoneCold]

Claims Obama is purging top military officers.

http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/13/watch ... next-step/


These are vids from that page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... 2laWVUTdMU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... IqbFBmOZ2c

[Boomchild]

The next order of business is going to be amnesty for illegals.....then get them on Obamacare.

Let me pose this question/idea to you, Steveo. Why not grant them amnesty? At that point, they get a SSN and begin paying into the system instead of just taking from it. It will create population growth, and with growth comes opportunity. Schools, hospitals, grocery stores, homes, apartments, gas stations and everything else you can imagine have to be built and stocked with employees. What's the downside?

I think to really answer a question like this you have to know if their contributions to SS would be greater then the amount of entitlements they would qualify for and enroll in once they are legalized. Some would say that the government is not going to give them access to entitlement programs. While they may not include that provision in the initial passage of a amnesty bill, you can be sure that someone will push for it soon after. Lawmakers will declare not doing is unfair and discriminatory. I would even go so far to say that organizations that represent them would be putting on the pressure as well.

[Boomchild]

Longshanks: "If we can't get them out, we'll breed them out."


This seems to be part of the plan. Anchor babies, etc.

Add to that lawmakers are looking to let them bring in and legalize extend family members that are not even in the U.S.. As I have said before, what's broken in our current immigration system is that it's not enforced as the law(s) are written. B.O. is directly responsible for stopping ICE agents from performing their function. Which makes the situation even worse since it adds to the things that were already being ignored before he took office. This flies in the face of his oath of office to enforce the laws.

[steveo777]

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population ... I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it."

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/h ... PtgLBvM.99

I'm not a racist, but some people are working damn hard on trying to make me one.

[Rick]

The next order of business is going to be amnesty for illegals.....then get them on Obamacare.

Let me pose this question/idea to you, Steveo. Why not grant them amnesty? At that point, they get a SSN and begin paying into the system instead of just taking from it. It will create population growth, and with growth comes opportunity. Schools, hospitals, grocery stores, homes, apartments, gas stations and everything else you can imagine have to be built and stocked with employees. What's the downside?

Rick, if I broke into your house and occupied it, would I be arrested, or would you give me amnesty? First of all, they comitted a crime when they crossed the border illegally. Population growth? They're already breeding like Rabbits and we do build more apartments. Have you heard of section 8 housing? Grocery stores? Yes, we have a newer Walmart superstore, near all these new section 8 apartments. If you go in there, you'll feel like you're in a foreign country. Most crime around here like rape, murder, theft, drug dealing, etc., are comitted by illegals. That said, you can't just give 11,000,000 blanket amnesty. The border needs to be sealed and the bad elements dealt with and deported. Get rid of the safe haven policies some cities have and get the border control agents back to work, rather than what they have now, which is basically non-enforcement. Yes, get all that done and maybe we can consider amnesty for some.

The point is, they're not going to leave, and they're not going to stop breaking in. That rests squarely on the shoulders of the people that keep hiring them (Republicans). They're breaking the law by hiring them, but you don't hear much about that, do you? You stop that, and they go away, but you aren't going to stop that, either.

[steveo777]

"Rick wrote:

The point is, they're not going to leave, and they're not going to stop breaking in. That rests squarely on the shoulders of the people that keep hiring them (Republicans). They're breaking the law by hiring them, but you don't hear much about that, do you? You stop that, and they go away, but you aren't going to stop that, either.

Did you read ALL of what I posted? This is about laws and enforcement. Republicans are not the only ones hiring them. As much as you liberals like to blame everything on Republicans, there are many Democrats hiring them too. They would go away if we could enforce the laws we already have on the books. Again, what is all this immigration reform stuff about?

Now, just to prove what a racist I am, I am married to a Filipino woman. I have helped several family members immigrate to the USA, through proper process. Yes, it was a painstaking process, but it was done legally. I helped brown skinned people come to the USA....{gasp}
Giving unconditional amnesty to law breakers is a slap in the face to those who followed process and waited their turn.
We can secure the border. We have the technology and the financing to do so. Unfortunately, mega apple orchard corporation slips a few million dollars to his favorite politician to make sure it doesn't get brought up.

[Rick]

"Rick wrote:

The point is, they're not going to leave, and they're not going to stop breaking in. That rests squarely on the shoulders of the people that keep hiring them (Republicans). They're breaking the law by hiring them, but you don't hear much about that, do you? You stop that, and they go away, but you aren't going to stop that, either.

Did you read ALL of what I posted? This is about laws and enforcement. Republicans are not the only ones hiring them. As much as you liberals like to blame everything on Republicans, there are many Democrats hiring them too. They would go away if we could enforce the laws we already have on the books. Again, what is all this immigration reform stuff about?

Now, just to prove what a racist I am, I am married to a Filipino woman. I have helped several family members immigrate to the USA, through proper process. Yes, it was a painstaking process, but it was done legally. I helped brown skinned people come to the USA....{gasp}
Giving unconditional amnesty to law breakers is a slap in the face to those who followed process and waited their turn.
We can secure the border. We have the technology and the financing to do so. Unfortunately, mega apple orchard corporation slips a few million dollars to his favorite politician to make sure it doesn't get brought up.

No, Republicans aren't the only one's hiring them, but they're the huge majority. You know that. I'm not blaming Republicans for the problem, but they sure have dirty hands in this thing, and you know that too.

I have no idea where racism came into this. That's something you conjured up. I'll dismiss it.

I understand and agree that giving amnesty would be unfair to those that applied and sought legal citizenship.

And remember, my post was hypothetical. I'm just looking for answers, too. But, to me, the answer is one or the other. Either stop the illegal immigration, or give them a social security number so they can pay their way.

[steveo777]

"Rick wrote:

The point is, they're not going to leave, and they're not going to stop breaking in. That rests squarely on the shoulders of the people that keep hiring them (Republicans). They're breaking the law by hiring them, but you don't hear much about that, do you? You stop that, and they go away, but you aren't going to stop that, either.

Did you read ALL of what I posted? This is about laws and enforcement. Republicans are not the only ones hiring them. As much as you liberals like to blame everything on Republicans, there are many Democrats hiring them too. They would go away if we could enforce the laws we already have on the books. Again, what is all this immigration reform stuff about?

Now, just to prove what a racist I am, I am married to a Filipino woman. I have helped several family members immigrate to the USA, through proper process. Yes, it was a painstaking process, but it was done legally. I helped brown skinned people come to the USA....{gasp}
Giving unconditional amnesty to law breakers is a slap in the face to those who followed process and waited their turn.
We can secure the border. We have the technology and the financing to do so. Unfortunately, mega apple orchard corporation slips a few million dollars to his favorite politician to make sure it doesn't get brought up.

No, Republicans aren't the only one's hiring them, but they're the huge majority. You know that. I'm not blaming Republicans for the problem, but they sure have dirty hands in this thing, and you know that too.

I have no idea where racism came into this. That's something you conjured up. I'll dismiss it.

I understand and agree that giving amnesty would be unfair to those that applied and sought legal citizenship.

And remember, my post was hypothetical. I'm just looking for answers, too. But, to me, the answer is one or the other. Either stop the illegal immigration, or give them a social security number so they can pay their way.

I drank a little...... Everyone is a racist then. Really glad we can discuss things on a calm level. Now fuck off! I'm going to bed and I don't want to see you until tomorrow.

[slucero]

No, Republicans aren't the only one's hiring them, but they're the huge majority. You know that.

Actually you don't... but you sure are quick to think we'll just accept this bullshit as "fact"..

Especially considering that In 2004 the breakdown was:

55 million registered Republicans
72 million registered Democrats
42 million registered as independents

So... unless you can factually support this bullshit opinion.. that is all it is.. an opinion... and bullshit.

[slucero]

GM and the UAW fuck America....

Examiner Editorial: GM got bailout, now ships jobs to China
http://washingtonexaminer.com/examiner- ... le/2537323


Saving General Motors from bankruptcy was among President Obama’s most frequently cited achievements when he ran for re-election last year. Democrats everywhere touted the company’s revival as proof of the 2009 bailout’s wisdom. That was then. Now, Obama has quietly released the auto manufacturer from a bailout requirement that it increase its production in the U.S. Instead, GM is spending billions of dollars building up its production capacity in ... China.

This is happening despite the fact that the Treasury Department has to date recovered just $36 billion of its original $51 billion loan to GM. By most analysts’ predictions, American taxpayers will be out approximately $10 billion when the remaining stock is sold off. Which is a long way of saying that it now appears that taxpayers paid $10 billion to make it easier for GM to accelerate its foreign outsourcing and send more manufacturing jobs to China.

Here’s what happened: In exchange for the bailout in 2009, GM promised to meet certain domestic car production targets over the next four years. The obvious point of this stipulation was to ensure that GM jobs remained here at home and weren't shipped overseas. The production targets started at 1.8 million in 2010 and were supposed to rise to 2.26 million by 2014. GM repeatedly missed the targets, beginning with an 81,000-unit shortfall the first year. Production increased thereafter, but never quite enough to meet the targets. Last year, GM fell about 13,000 cars short of its 2 million target.

How did it do this year? GM refuses to say. But in February, GM announced in its annual report to shareholders that Treasury had agreed to “irrevocably waive certain of its rights” regarding the federal loan. These included “certain manufacturing volume requirements.” Guess what happened next? GM announced in June that it would stop releasing its North American production figures altogether. Its spokesman tried to justify this move with Orwellian doublespeak about how providing more information would result in “an incomplete data set to look at.”

The same month, GM announced it would boost its output from its China plants by 70 percent. It is not just selling Chinese-made cars to the Chinese, either. GM is nearly doubling its export production capacity there from 77,000 units to 130,000. It doesn’t take a Ph.D. in economics to see what is really going on. GM cannot make the domestic production targets and still turn a profit. It wants to be spared the embarrassment of having everyone know that. Obama, who is in this as deep as anyone can be, doesn’t want the embarrassment, either. So both buried the news.

It is yet more proof that Mitt Romney was right in the 2012 presidential campaign: GM should have gone through a traditional bankruptcy instead of the politicized farce of a taxpayer-funded bailout and government managed “bankruptcy.” The TARP funds involved could have instead been used to provide liquidity for a managed sale to a private buyer that minimized the opportunities for political interference in the new GM’s operations.

[Memorex]

So, does everyone here have health insurance through work? If you do, that explains why none of you are complaining about Obamacare yet. You got the one year waiver that I didn't get. Here's my story.

On the free market I have been buying my own coverage for $173 monthly with $5000 deductible. My plan ran June to June. Wednesday I get the letter from BCBS that my plan is ending on Dec. 31. I can keep it for one more year until Dec. 31, 2014 for the new rate of $194 monthly with $5500 deductible and max out of pocket of $6,350. The plan will end at that time and then I need to go on the exchange for a new ACA Plan. The other option is to go to the exchange now and see what plans are available to me now and to see if I qualify for the subsidy. Anthem offers to do this for me at their website http://www.changemycoverage.com .
I go over there and enter my info and Modified Adjusted Gross Income for 2013. (Had to make a good guess based on 2012 taxes) and low and behold I can get the exact same plan they offered me for 2014 for $125 a month. Here's the kicker, under the price tag of the plan is a link that says, "How is this calculated", I click that link and it says "Total Plan Costs $387 monthly, minus your subsidy of $262, equals my cost of $125 per month. So the same plan that I was already willingly paying for out of my own pocket at $173 has now been priced at $387 and FedGov is going to pay $262 of that. How in the hell does this make any sense? Now I'm not an idiot so I'm in the process of taking them up on the $125 offer. That $800 savings will help cover the increase in total out of pocket expenses so that will come out in the wash for me either way.

I'm gonna need TNC to explain to me why this is a good thing again. It appears that BCBS is now in cahoots with the Gov and they are inflating prices based on the fact that Uncle Sam is paying them a big chunk of cash. They will get money from me and the Gov for coverage that I was already paying for before Gov intervention.

UnFuckingBelievable.....no,no,no actually it is all tooooo believable.

You guys with coverage through work are not going to see,feel this until next year. Suckers...

I went to one site to see because I anticipate I'll have to do this crap soon. The cost was less than full price because I was subsidized. I was shocked because there is no way, with my income, that I should be subsidized. I will have to research what the subsidy guidelines are. If I am being subsidized, than most of this country is. And that's just crazy. So it just didn't seem right.

That said, it was less of a plan than I have now, much higher deductibles, etc. Out of pocket will actually be a lot more for me. I would be better off with my work-based unsubsidized plan.

[tater1977]

So, does everyone here have health insurance through work? If you do, that explains why none of you are complaining about Obamacare yet. ...

My question is..how the hell did you get online to it ?
You actually set up an acct?

It didn't shut down or kick your info out?

[Boomchild]

The point is, they're not going to leave, and they're not going to stop breaking in. That rests squarely on the shoulders of the people that keep hiring them (Republicans). They're breaking the law by hiring them, but you don't hear much about that, do you? You stop that, and they go away, but you aren't going to stop that, either.

I'd love to see the data that shows that Republicans are in the majority when it comes to hiring illegals. Somehow I doubt that this is the case. Prove me wrong. The solution is not to stop them from being hired. That said we do need laws on the books that punishes employers that do. The solution is to enforce the immigration laws that have been in place. Properly secure our boarders. Allow ICE agents to perform the job they were hired to do. Then you would see this situation have less of an impact on our country. But, with the mindset of our lawmakers your never going to get that. Because these slime balls think of these illegals as a goldmine for new loyal voters for their party. This includes both parties. This is the real cause of the problem. What you are stating here are just the side effects of the real problem.

[Boomchild]

I think Rick is one of those who believe that Republicans started slavery and Democrats ended it.

I believe it. Those dirty Republicans are all terrorist anyway.

[Boomchild]

GM and the UAW fuck America....

Examiner Editorial: GM got bailout, now ships jobs to China
http://washingtonexaminer.com/examiner- ... le/2537323

I saw reports earlier this year stating that the President of GM was proudly talking about working on a deal to get 10% of it's vehicle manufacturing based in China. In my opinion the fed should have never bailed GM out. If they couldn't compete in the market then they don't deserve to be in business. It may be a tough pill to swallow but I bet they will be in the same kind of situation in the very near future.

[Rick]

No, Republicans aren't the only one's hiring them, but they're the huge majority. You know that.

Actually you don't... but you sure are quick to think we'll just accept this bullshit as "fact"..

Especially considering that In 2004 the breakdown was:

55 million registered Republicans
72 million registered Democrats
42 million registered as independents

So... unless you can factually support this bullshit opinion.. that is all it is.. an opinion... and bullshit.

It is what it is. I'm not talking sbout people hiring them to do yard work or hang gutters on the house. I'm talking about hiring them into a business, where otherwise a W4 would be filled out. It may be naive thinking on my part that the hiring political demographic is the same in the rest of the country as it is here, but I don't even know a Democrat that owns a business. That's how I came by making that statement. And without a link, your numbers are nothing more than bullshit either. And you can take them and shove them up your snide, smart ass.