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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:50 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Boomchild wrote:Their mistake is turning on those in their party they don't agree with. Something that the Democrats learned not to do.



Yea, because Obama's liberal base was just clamoring for a war w/ Libya, expanded surveillance, endless civil liberty trampling, and the biggest giveaway to the health industrial complex since Bush's Medicare Part D. :roll:
What are you talking about, dude? The Democratic Party/Obama turns on their hardcore base all the time. It's part of centrist governing. The Tea Party lives in Ayn Rand fantasy land.


I'm not talking about them always agreeing on the parties viewpoints. Typically they don't attack people in their own party and support them when they fuck up and it is clear as day that they fucked up to anyone outside their party.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:03 pm

Monker wrote:Oh, please. In 2010, the Tea Pary supporters were directly responsible for Republicans losing several elections. They were responsible because they supported candidates who had no possibilty of winning their election...at times rejecting candidate, even incumbants, who would have won election easily. Yeah, it was a good election year for Republicans...but they could have won a few more elections.

Now they waste everybody's time shutting down the government to try to defund Obamacare. A strategy which also had no possibility of success. Whether you like it or not, Obamacare is not some bill up for debate. It's not some policy to be debated. It passed Congress and was signed by the President into LAW. Not only that, but it has been ruled Constitutional by the Supreme Court. And, it has been attempted to repeal Obamacare a few dozen times, and has always failed.

So, it is therefore the Tea Party who is whining and crying about the Constitutional process and is trying to force something to change in ways that are improper...and do NOT support or defend our Constitution. They need to get over it already and lick their wounds because THEY LOST.


Sorry but I don't take the viewpoint that just because something has become law means that people that oppose it or parts of it just need to stop fighting for their position on it. The liberals and democrats want to change the 2nd amendment which is law and Constitutional. So I guess they just need to suck it up and stop trying to change it.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:10 pm

Monker wrote:Wow, I thought I wrote a reply to this several times...

Your communications have been monitored for more then 50yrs. Every Email, every cell phone call, every fax...all of it...that you have ever communicated has been scanned by the NSA. This isn't something NEW. It's been going on for DECADES. It was happening before cell phones. It was happening before Al Gore invented the internet.


I said nothing about this wasn't happening before. I was commenting on the premise that the NSA was stating why they are doing it.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:19 pm

Memorex wrote:As far as Obama - it's just another in a long like of broken campaign promises. I don't think I've ever witnessed so many broken promises, especially when he then blames the American public for misunderstanding his words - all the time.


Some of it is lies and broken campaign promises. Also, I think people just didn't understand that B.O.'s idea of "fundamentally" transforming America is not the same as their idea of it.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:21 am

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Fact Finder wrote:That's amazing isn't it? Sadly, some people, like TNC, will excuse it away. I agree with Congressman Gowdy, The Won should have the Noble Prize for Fiction. Shameless, pathological liar. :twisted:


I didn't lose my plan. Sounds to me like these people had shitty insurance or pretty lousy careers. Maybe they should stop being so lazy and try to work a little harder and advance themselves. I mean, hey, that's what the Conservative auto-response would be. :lol:


OBozo is now "sorry" Americans really cannot keep their current insurance, doctors, etc. etc. From the track record, looks like your so called "Republican spin machine" is pretty damn accurate and this is only just one of several which has been proven and proven time and time again.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:36 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
OBozo is now "sorry" Americans really cannot keep their current insurance, doctors, etc. etc.


Gee, I feel better now, don't you? :roll:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:42 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:From the track record, looks like your so called "Republican spin machine" is pretty damn accurate and this is only just one of several which has been proven and proven time and time again.


Yep. You're correct. The GOP is a bastion of honesty and patriotic truth-telling. Better cut another fat check to Karl Rove's latest dark money slushfund. We need the GOP to continue to stand up for wholesome American values or, err, uh, something. :roll:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:01 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:From the track record, looks like your so called "Republican spin machine" is pretty damn accurate and this is only just one of several which has been proven and proven time and time again.


Yep. You're correct. The GOP is a bastion of honesty and patriotic truth-telling. Better cut another fat check to Karl Rove's latest dark money slushfund. We need the GOP to continue to stand up for wholesome American values or, err, uh, something. :roll:


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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:47 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:From the track record, looks like your so called "Republican spin machine" is pretty damn accurate and this is only just one of several which has been proven and proven time and time again.


Yep. You're correct. The GOP is a bastion of honesty and patriotic truth-telling. Better cut another fat check to Karl Rove's latest dark money slushfund. We need the GOP to continue to stand up for wholesome American values or, err, uh, something. :roll:



Don't forget about "Leadership PACS"... totally unregulated slush funds.. and both parties do it.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics ... s-20130722

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:28 am

Fact Finder wrote:Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do....


REPORT: 52 million Americans have lost or will lose health insurance...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/11/07/2 ... could.html



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wow.

34 million to 52 million losing their healthcare is a lot different than "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your healthcare plan. Period."

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:05 am

slucero wrote:wow.

34 million to 52 million losing their healthcare is a lot different than "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your healthcare plan. Period."


Come on now, give B.O. a break. After all, he said he was "sorry". That should be enough, shouldn't it?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:16 am

This is unreal, B.O. has been quietly lifting\easing the sanctions against Iran. Months before the current nuclear talks and before there has been any real commitment to change by Iran. If I was Israel I wouldn't be so sure the U.S. has my back.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... tente.html
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:30 pm

I'm glad that B.O. is not my investment broker. If he was I may be bankrupt based on his track record with green energy projects. Here's an interesting report on the multiple failures that have received federal dollars.

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-green-energy-failures/

Here's another article on how DOE has been neglecting to report problems to the inspector general. Guess this is the transparency B.O. was boasting about during his run for office.

http://freebeacon.com/report-doe-withheld-data-on-bankrupt-green-energy-company/
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:02 pm

Most Uninsured Americans Ignoring Health Exchange Sites
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Three in 10 are familiar with the exchanges
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PRINCETON, NJ -- In the midst of widespread news coverage of problems with the federal health exchange website, relatively few uninsured Americans (18%) -- the primary target population for the exchanges -- have so far attempted to visit an exchange website. The percentage is slightly higher, 22%, among uninsured Americans who say they plan to get insurance through the exchanges.

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These results are based on a series of questions Gallup asked uninsured Americans about the health exchanges from Oct. 23-Nov. 6.

Gallup previously found that less than half of uninsured Americans (44%) who plan to get insurance say they will do so through an exchange, and about one in four say they are more likely to pay a fine instead of getting insurance. These findings help explain the low percentage of the uninsured who have attempted to access the exchange websites.

Still, the fact that less than a quarter of uninsured Americans who say they plan to get insurance through an exchange have visited one so far suggests that other factors are at work. It may be that many uninsured Americans are waiting to try out the health exchange websites until their highly publicized problems are fixed, or they may simply be putting off decisions about getting insurance until later.

Three in 10 uninsured Americans are somewhat or very familiar with the exchanges, and that lack of familiarity is similar among those who claim they will most likely buy insurance through the exchanges.

Overall, about 17% of U.S. adults interviewed between Oct. 23 and Nov. 6 reported having no health insurance, similar to the percentages found in the first three quarters of this year.

Implications

The health exchange websites are not only fraught with the technical problems that have led to so much news coverage in recent weeks, but have also generated relatively little interest or use among uninsured Americans -- the primary target group for the exchanges. The majority of uninsured Americans are unfamiliar with the exchanges and relatively few have tried to access them to date, even among those who say that eventually, they will most likely get their insurance through an exchange website.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:41 am

So just what is B.O.'s game plan by firing\replacing so many military commanders?

"Some reports indicate that Obama has purged 197 senior military officers since moving into the White House and that many of the retired officers have been harassed at their new civilian jobs for criticizing the president’s policies."

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/matthew-va ... -military/
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby trekman » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:20 pm

Boomchild wrote:So just what is B.O.'s game plan by firing\replacing so many military commanders?

"Some reports indicate that Obama has purged 197 senior military officers since moving into the White House and that many of the retired officers have been harassed at their new civilian jobs for criticizing the president’s policies."

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/matthew-va ... -military/


If Obama has any doubts of being able to control them or have them follow his orders/policy without hesitation he doesnt want them around. as in Marshall law, weapons confiscation, shooting Americans. Not saying these are going to happen but just possibilities. :(
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:01 pm

trekman wrote:If Obama has any doubts of being able to control them or have them follow his orders/policy without hesitation he doesnt want them around. as in Marshall law, weapons confiscation, shooting Americans. Not saying these are going to happen but just possibilities. :(


These things certainly come to mind. But, I wonder if it has to do with something else. Such as B.O.'s approach to combating terrorism and the size and structure of our military.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:18 pm

Boomchild wrote:
trekman wrote:If Obama has any doubts of being able to control them or have them follow his orders/policy without hesitation he doesnt want them around. as in Marshall law, weapons confiscation, shooting Americans. Not saying these are going to happen but just possibilities. :(


These things certainly come to mind. But, I wonder if it has to do with something else. Such as B.O.'s approach to combating terrorism and the size and structure of our military.


What approach to combating terrorism? He's inviting it with his foreign policy. Remember his Muslim apology tour?
Speaking of which, now as part of the new common core school curriculum, kids are learning about Islam in school, but not about Jesus or Christianity. The infiltration continues. Think I'm not serious? Check it out:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:38 pm

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Boomchild wrote:
trekman wrote:If Obama has any doubts of being able to control them or have them follow his orders/policy without hesitation he doesnt want them around. as in Marshall law, weapons confiscation, shooting Americans. Not saying these are going to happen but just possibilities. :(


These things certainly come to mind. But, I wonder if it has to do with something else. Such as B.O.'s approach to combating terrorism and the size and structure of our military.


What approach to combating terrorism? He's inviting it with his foreign policy. Remember his Muslim apology tour?
Speaking of which, now as part of the new common core school curriculum, kids are learning about Islam in school, but not about Jesus or Christianity. The infiltration continues. Think I'm not serious? Check it out:
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I should have just said, his approach to terrorism. Personally I see him as a sympathizer to radicals. While he may not agree with their way of getting attention he views them as some sort of freedom fighters. On Common Core, that issue is falling on deaf ears. Not very many people seem that concerned about it. By the time people wake up on that one it will be too late to change it. Soon children in the public school system will be fed the progressive mind set which has a very warped, revisionist approach to history.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:45 am

Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Deficit fell 37% in 2013. Where is the massive government spending spree?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... siness_pop



Only because the Pubbies actually won a round with the Won and got sequestration, which O would like to undo and spend more. Duh! :shock:



False. And as Cheney said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." So you're outrage over this matter, as with most everything else Obama-related, is bullshit.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama- ... 2012-05-22
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:46 am

steveo777 wrote:What approach to combating terrorism? He's inviting it with his foreign policy. Remember his Muslim apology tour?
Speaking of which, now as part of the new common core school curriculum, kids are learning about Islam in school, but not about Jesus or Christianity. The infiltration continues. Think I'm not serious? Check it out:
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Wow. A blog with Sarah Palin as its mascot. Seems like a very very reliable source. :lol:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:51 am

trekman wrote:If Obama has any doubts of being able to control them or have them follow his orders/policy without hesitation he doesnt want them around. as in Marshall law, weapons confiscation, shooting Americans. Not saying these are going to happen but just possibilities. :(


You poor paranoid lost soul. I bet you think fluoride in drinking water is also a communist plot. Behold the Conservative mind, everybody! It's a scary, sad, and desolate place to be. Better stock up on canned goods and ammo in your Ted Kaczynski-style plywood cabin in the woods, nutbag.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:24 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
trekman wrote:If Obama has any doubts of being able to control them or have them follow his orders/policy without hesitation he doesnt want them around. as in Marshall law, weapons confiscation, shooting Americans. Not saying these are going to happen but just possibilities. :(


You poor paranoid lost soul. I bet you think fluoride in drinking water is also a communist plot. Behold the Conservative mind, everybody! It's a scary, sad, and desolate place to be. Better stock up on canned goods and ammo in your Ted Kaczynski-style plywood cabin in the woods, nutbag.


Better double up on those canned goods stockpile cause it will be TNC and those alike that will come knocking begging for food when the shit hits the fan.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:31 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
steveo777 wrote:What approach to combating terrorism? He's inviting it with his foreign policy. Remember his Muslim apology tour?
Speaking of which, now as part of the new common core school curriculum, kids are learning about Islam in school, but not about Jesus or Christianity. The infiltration continues. Think I'm not serious? Check it out:
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Wow. A blog with Sarah Palin as its mascot. Seems like a very very reliable source. :lol:


Let me guess, you saw Sarah Palin on the page and skipped the Hanity video that was on the page, where the book and it's contents were actually shown and discussed. You are a fucking tool, but at least you're our tool. ;)
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby verslibre » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:36 pm

Boomchild wrote:Better double up on those canned goods stockpile cause it will be TNC and those alike that will come knocking begging for food when the shit hits the fan.


I thought you were supposed to give them one warning shot? :lol:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:13 pm

Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2014 Elections
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Prediction: even if HealthCare.gov is fixed by the end of the month (unlikely), Obamacare is going to be repealed well in advance of next year’s election. And if the website continues to fail, the push for repeal—from endangered Democrats—will occur very rapidly. The website is a sideshow: the real action is the number of people and businesses who are losing their health plans or having to pay a lot more. Fixing the website will only delay the inevitable.

It is important to remember why it was so important for Obama to promise repeatedly that “if you like your health insurance/doctor, you can keep your health insurance/doctor.” Cast your mind back to the ignominious collapse of Hillarycare in 1994. Hillarycare came out of the box in September 1993 to high public support according to the early polls. This was not a surprise. Opinion polls for decades have shown a large majority of Americans support the general idea of universal health coverage. But Hillarycare came apart as the bureaucratic details came out, the most important one being that you couldn’t be sure you’d be able to keep your doctors or select specialists of your choice. The Clintons refused to consider a compromise, but even with large Democratic Senate and House majorities the bill was so dead it was never brought up for a vote.

Remember “Harry and Louise”? Obama did, which is why he portrayed Obamacare as simply expanding coverage to the uninsured, and improving coverage for the underinsured while leaving the already insured undisturbed. But the redistributive arithmetic of Obamacare’s architecture could never add up, which is what the bureaucrats knew early on—as early as 2010 according to many documents that have leaked. The wonder is that Obama’s political team didn’t see this coming and prepare a pre-emptive strategy for dealing with the inevitable exposure of the duplicity at the heart of Obamacare’s logic. Now that people are losing their insurance and finding that they may not be able to keep their doctor after all, Obamacare has become the domestic policy equivalent of the Iraq War: a protracted fiasco that is proving fatal to a president’s credibility and approval rating. The only thing missing is calling in FEMA to help fix this Category-5 political disaster.

Senate Democrats endangered for re-election will lead the charge for repeal perhaps as soon as January, after they get an earful over the Christmas break. They’ll call it “reform,” and clothe it in calls for delaying the individual mandate and allowing people and businesses to keep their existing health insurance policies. But it is probably too late to go back in many cases. With the political damage guaranteed to continue, the momentum toward repeal will be unstoppable. Democrats will not want to face the voters next November with the albatross of Obamacare.

The politics of the repeal effort will be a game theorist’s dream. Tea Party Republicans will resist “reforms” to Obamacare in favor of complete repeal. Democrats will try to turn the tables and set up Republicans as obstacles to reform, hoping to inoculate themselves prospectively from mayhem at the polls next November. The House might want to insist that the Senate go first; after all, it was the Senate version of the bill that the House had to swallow after Scott Brown’s election in January 2010. The House can rightly insist that the Senate needs to clean up the mess they made. Obama may well give Capitol Hill Democrats a pass on a repeal vote, and veto any bill that emerges. He’ll never face the voters again.

This wouldn’t be the first time that a health care entitlement was repealed. The same thing happened in the late 1980s with catastrophic coverage for seniors. Because seniors were made to pay for their benefits under that scheme, the uproar forced Congress to repeal the measure barely a year after it went into effect. Obamacare looks to be on the same political trajectory, and for the same reason. Obamacare represents the crisis of big government; the limits of administrative government have finally been breached. For the first time ever, some polls are showing a majority of Americans doubting the goal of universal health coverage.

The hazard of the moment is that a compromise “reform” that drops the mandate and attempts to restore the insurance status quo ante could leave us with an unfunded expansion of Medicaid and a badly disrupted private insurance market. Republicans should avoid both the political traps and a new fiscal time bomb by being ready with a serious replacement policy, based on the premium support tax credit ideas that John McCain advocated (poorly) in 2008. While anxious liberals are in dismay, they should recognize that Obamacare may well have achieved its chief purpose of making universal or at least greatly expanded health coverage a fixture of American social policy. The cost to liberalism may prove fatal, however.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby trekman » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:20 pm

First Russian troops train earlier in this year in Colorado and now Chinese will train and participate in a exercise in Hawaii. Why do you think Obama is having the military train with the communists and not American allies?

http://www.examiner.com/article/communi ... xt-tuesday
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:06 pm

trekman wrote:First Russian troops train earlier in this year in Colorado and now Chinese will train and participate in a exercise in Hawaii. Why do you think Obama is having the military train with the communists and not American allies?

http://www.examiner.com/article/communi ... xt-tuesday


Don't you see? These are our new "friends". We are just being understanding, thoughtful of other peoples ideals and compassionate.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:20 am

Boomchild wrote:
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trekman wrote:If Obama has any doubts of being able to control them or have them follow his orders/policy without hesitation he doesnt want them around. as in Marshall law, weapons confiscation, shooting Americans. Not saying these are going to happen but just possibilities. :(


You poor paranoid lost soul. I bet you think fluoride in drinking water is also a communist plot. Behold the Conservative mind, everybody! It's a scary, sad, and desolate place to be. Better stock up on canned goods and ammo in your Ted Kaczynski-style plywood cabin in the woods, nutbag.


Better double up on those canned goods stockpile cause it will be TNC and those alike that will come knocking begging for food when the shit hits the fan.


Yea, and FDR is saddling our children with debt that can never be repaid blah blah. The GOP and Right Wing faction in this country has been peddling the same doomsday prediction for decades. Like all doomsday cults, they are not to be taken seriously.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:24 am

Boomchild wrote:
trekman wrote:First Russian troops train earlier in this year in Colorado and now Chinese will train and participate in a exercise in Hawaii. Why do you think Obama is having the military train with the communists and not American allies?

http://www.examiner.com/article/communi ... xt-tuesday


Don't you see? These are our new "friends". We are just being understanding, thoughtful of other peoples ideals and compassionate.



So it's OK for them to be our chief creditor and also make the majority of our goods, but we cannot train with them militarily? The rucksacks, MREs, ammo, and combat boots are all paid for with Chinese-backed U.S. dollars. They might as well come over and claim it.
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