President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Boomchild]

Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! I'm conducting a poll. Would all the Democrats please step forward and if you kiss Obama's ass, I will give you a $5 bill!

Sorry Steveo, $5 is not enough to motivate them. You need to make them think that your offering healthcare coverage for free or next to nothing, SS disability for something as simple as a hang nail or a fully loaded EBT card.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Can you say "Poetic Justice", I knew you could...

UC battles unions on health care costs

Premiums triple compared to last year

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2013 ... /311210091

This is what most of us have been saying all along that would happen if OBozocare was forced upon America.

The deal with OBozocare is, a huge number of individuals will take from the system without contributing into it. So where is that money going to come from that these fucking assholes are using up? For some reason Dems tend to always think that money comes out of fucking thin air and that regardless of how much other people's money is mishandled, it will never run out.

[conversationpc]

Any comments on the Dem hypocrites who've now invoked the nuclear option, the same thing they opposed just a few years ago when some Republicans threatened to do it but, in the end, didn't have enough support and didn't invoke it?

[slucero]

Harry Reid is a piece of work.

[steveo777]

Harry Reid is a piece of work.

So is that Nancy Pelosi. They have to go!

[Memorex]

They just pushed back the enrollment period for 2015 from mid-October to mid-November in order to avoid mishaps just before the mid-term elections. How's that for confidence. They don't think this thing will be working in a year from now?

It's amazing just how politicized EVERYTHING is. I swear this administration doesn't make a single move that isn't political.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Any comments on the Dem hypocrites who've now invoked the nuclear option, the same thing they opposed just a few years ago when some Republicans threatened to do it but, in the end, didn't have enough support and didn't invoke it?

Context please.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The deal with OBozocare is, a huge number of individuals will take from the system without contributing into it. So where is that money going to come from that these fucking assholes are using up?

It's called taxing self-centered unAmerican mother fuckers like you, down to your very last jot and tittle.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You speak as if when others have hinted at universal healthcare everybody was on board with it. That simply is not the case.

Do you think everybody was on board with Soc Security and Medicare, as well? Of course not. And since then, corporate power and right wing junk propaganda has only gained a further stronghold over America.

Still people can't explain why B.O. kept the company of so many radical socialist\communists. Even one that was a known domestic terrorist.

A domestic terrorist, who is and has been a university professor/author for years. I guess the hundreds of students who sit in his lectures are also guilty by association? Pretty weak stuff. Tell me, how many Republican officials and political muckety-mucks CURRENTLY like to go to cocktail weenie parties with terrorists/war criminals like Henry Kissinger, Oliver North, and Donald Rumsfeld?

[The Sushi Hunter]

The deal with OBozocare is, a huge number of individuals will take from the system without contributing into it. So where is that money going to come from that these fucking assholes are using up?

It's called taxing self-centered unAmerican mother fuckers like you, down to your very last jot and tittle.

Yeah, to pay for self-centered un-American shitbags like you...tough guy.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Yeah, to pay for self-centered un-American shitbags like you...tough guy.

Every posts of yours reads like the exact opposite of the plaque hanging inside the statue of liberty. Maybe you were playing with your Ipod when your boat arrived on Ellis island. I don't think there's anything more anti-American and anti-democratic than saying that poor people should be denied access to healthcare. I wouldn't be surprised if you are actually on all sorts of forms of government assistance. Kinda like the GOP hypocrites who rail against welfare queens, while squeezing every last milky drop out of the public teat in the form of big AG subsidies. Keep posting, slick. Your true deceptive character will soon be unmaksed.

[conversationpc]

Any comments on the Dem hypocrites who've now invoked the nuclear option, the same thing they opposed just a few years ago when some Republicans threatened to do it but, in the end, didn't have enough support and didn't invoke it?

Context please....

Context doesn't matter in this case. The filibuster was a tool written into the rules by the founding fathers for the minority to use to guard against tyranny by the majority. Whether Republicans have used the filibuster more (or even far more) than previous minorities in the Senate is of no consequence. Biden and other Dems flat-out said it was a "naked power grab" and prayed to God that it wouldn't happen when Dems were in power. Well, well, well...

[The_Noble_Cause]

Context doesn't matter in this case.

Lol. Of course not. How convenient.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Yeah, to pay for self-centered un-American shitbags like you...tough guy.

Every posts of yours reads like the exact opposite of the plaque hanging inside the statue of liberty. Maybe you were playing with your Ipod when your boat arrived on Ellis island. I don't think there's anything more anti-American and anti-democratic than saying that poor people should be denied access to healthcare. I wouldn't be surprised if you are actually on all sorts of forms of government assistance. Kinda like the GOP hypocrites who rail against welfare queens, while squeezing every last milky drop out of the public teat in the form of big AG subsidies. Keep posting, slick. Your true deceptive character will soon be unmaksed.

Your going to really deserve what's coming to ya.

[conversationpc]

Context doesn't matter in this case.

Lol. Of course not. How convenient.

Just love how you skipped right over the rest of that statement. The "context" you presented isn't germane to the conversation. In other words, it doesn't matter if Republicans utilized the filibuster far more than their democratic counterparts. What does matter, i.e. the REAL context, is that the "nuclear option" is just as undemocratic now as the Democrats said it was in 2005 (and they were correct then, also). You won't be laughing when the hypocrite republicans fail to nullify the nuclear option when they're the ones back in power. It'll end up being the same deal as the Patriot Act.

[slucero]

The deal with OBozocare is, a huge number of individuals will take from the system without contributing into it. So where is that money going to come from that these fucking assholes are using up?

It's called taxing self-centered unAmerican mother fuckers like you, down to your very last jot and tittle.

And BOOM! The Money Quote.

And you talk of the mask slipping and character being revealed, dude...? Just admit that you are anti free market and pro Government control for everything, will ya already?

He can't do that.. that would require he have integrity & virtue.

[slucero]

President Obama, came out in support of Senate Democrats using the "nuclear option" Thursday to push through the president's judicial nominees over Republican filibusters.

However, in 2005, then Sen. Obama took to the Senate floor to oppose GOP use of the "nuclear option" in order to push through President Bush's nominees when Senate Democrats were blocking his selections to the federal courts.

In his floor speech Obama said "....everyone in this chamber knows that if the majority chooses to end the filibuster, if they choose to change the rules and put an end to democratic debate, then the fighting and the bitterness, and the gridlock will only get worse."

Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhSKywjnqc



Yea, how convenient!

The Dems obviously are concerned about losing the Senate in 2014. Pushing this through now allows them to push through federal court appointments so they can use the courts as their firewall and keep their agenda on track. They need to push these judges through right now-- no matter the cost.

If they can hold the senate until 2016 expect a totally radicalized Obama-type federal court for many, many years to come.

The other obvious consequences is that it will create more partisanship, and embolden the Republicans, should they take the Senate, to retaliate using the same new rules, even to the point of changing the rules to include legislation.


Once again.. both parties would have fucked the Constitution and the People.

[conversationpc]

Once again.. both parties would have fucked the Constitution and the People.

The whole Democrat vs. Republican thing is played out. Though I agree more often with Republicans, I've passed the point where I actually trust one party more than the other.

[The_Noble_Cause]

And BOOM! The Money Quote.

And you talk of the mask slipping and character being revealed, dude...? Just admit that you are anti free market and pro Government control for everything, will ya already?

He can't do that.. that would require he have integrity & virtue.

Yep, you got me. Because taxation is such an anti-American idea. That pinko bastard, Thomas Paine, was obviously under Marxist control when he advocated taxes to fund old age pensions and public education. Tbh, I've never seen a sorrier bunch of losers contained in one thread. It's pretty obvious you guys have no interaction with opposing political or philosophical viewpoints in your sad daily lives. Happy to be here to stomp on your ignorant asses.

[The_Noble_Cause]

In other words, it doesn't matter if Republicans utilized the filibuster far more than their democratic counterparts.

Sure it does. The GOP can't behave like a serious governing party so it's time to take one of their toys away.

[slucero]

And BOOM! The Money Quote.

And you talk of the mask slipping and character being revealed, dude...? Just admit that you are anti free market and pro Government control for everything, will ya already?

He can't do that.. that would require he have integrity & virtue.

Yep, you got me. Because taxation is such an anti-American idea. That pinko bastard, Thomas Paine, was obviously under Marxist control when he advocated taxes to fund old age pensions and public education. Tbh, I've never seen a sorrier bunch of losers contained in one thread. It's pretty obvious you guys have no interaction with opposing political or philosophical viewpoints in your sad daily lives. Happy to be here to stomp on your ignorant asses.

Don't forget your boots.

[Boomchild]

A domestic terrorist, who is and has been a university professor/author for years. I guess the hundreds of students who sit in his lectures are also guilty by association? Pretty weak stuff. Tell me, how many Republican officials and political muckety-mucks CURRENTLY like to go to cocktail weenie parties with terrorists/war criminals like Henry Kissinger, Oliver North, and Donald Rumsfeld?

As if him being a "professor" changes what he did in his past. The students are not personal friends with him, Obama is. Obviously you don't see the difference. Plus they don't have a choice on who is going to teach the classes. As far as Republicans I don't trust them either. Besides that has nothing to do with B.O. and the company he keeps.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Don't forget your boots.

Yeah, dude. Because every right winger in this thread is an example of original thinking. You're practically trampling over one another to regurgitate what you heard on Limbaugh and The Kelly Factor the night before.

[The_Noble_Cause]

As if him being a "professor" changes what he did in his past. The students are not personal friends with him, Obama is. Obviously you don't see the difference.

OoOoOoh scary. He must be behind Obama's radical dovish policies, such as proxy wars with Libya and Syria and our expanded Afghanistan presence. Get a clue.

[slucero]

Don't forget your boots.

Yeah, dude. Because every right winger in this thread is an example of original thinking. You're practically trampling over one another to regurgitate what you heard on Limbaugh and The Kelly Factor the night before.

Don't watch either of those....

try again..

dude.

[conversationpc]

In other words, it doesn't matter if Republicans utilized the filibuster far more than their democratic counterparts.

Sure it does. The GOP can't behave like a serious governing party so it's time to take one of their toys away.

Possibly the weakest argument I've ever seen you make here. It's like a pair of twin brothers I went to school with...Neither one of them was that smart and neither one could stay out of trouble.

[conversationpc]

Tbh, I've never seen a sorrier bunch of losers contained in one thread. It's pretty obvious you guys have no interaction with opposing political or philosophical viewpoints in your sad daily lives. Happy to be here to stomp on your ignorant asses.

The unintended irony is killing me!

[Memorex]

I think the only way Dems make this move is if they are certain about 2014/2016. If you look at 2012, the Obama team called it all through the election. A lot of people were stunned at the margin of victory - everyone except the people on the Obama team. If they are confident in a dem victory, then people ought to take note.

I can't imagine any scenario where one party does this without a hell of a lot of confidence that they will be the majority in the Senate for several terms to come. Otherwise, it would be the single biggest shortsighted decision in the history of politics.

I can see why Republicans are blocking things. There are so many radical moves going on with layers of consequences that the public is not aware of. So don't fault them for doing what they feel is right. Even if you disagree. Same with Dems.

Unfortunately, this only worsens the partisan problems in Washington. And we have no leaders that seem capable of fixing it - not to mention the sheeple of this country are making it worse with their attitudes.

I wouldn't care, but the sheer financial waste spent in Government in this country is mind boggling. I cannot grasp how they can waste over $700 million on a website that they are now saying would be cheaper to scrap entirely and rebuild, but have the audacity to want me to pay more taxes. Blows my mind. It's like supporting your kid's drug habit. Her son, go buy crack, but only if you promise to allow me to give you more money for more crack tomorrow - and every day forever.

[steveo777]

I think the only way Dems make this move is if they are certain about 2014/2016. If you look at 2012, the Obama team called it all through the election. A lot of people were stunned at the margin of victory - everyone except the people on the Obama team. If they are confident in a dem victory, then people ought to take note.

I can't imagine any scenario where one party does this without a hell of a lot of confidence that they will be the majority in the Senate for several terms to come. Otherwise, it would be the single biggest shortsighted decision in the history of politics.

I can see why Republicans are blocking things. There are so many radical moves going on with layers of consequences that the public is not aware of. So don't fault them for doing what they feel is right. Even if you disagree. Same with Dems.

Unfortunately, this only worsens the partisan problems in Washington. And we have no leaders that seem capable of fixing it - not to mention the sheeple of this country are making it worse with their attitudes.

I wouldn't care, but the sheer financial waste spent in Government in this country is mind boggling. I cannot grasp how they can waste over $700 million on a website that they are now saying would be cheaper to scrap entirely and rebuild, but have the audacity to want me to pay more taxes. Blows my mind. It's like supporting your kid's drug habit. Her son, go buy crack, but only if you promise to allow me to give you more money for more crack tomorrow - and every day forever.

Republicans have too much integrity to try and manipulate elections the way the Dems have been doing. It is very clear to me that all the lies that have come out of the Obama camp have been just to get him reelected and provide more funds to their cronies. Now, what Republicans have been asking for all along, delay Obamacare, is being rolled out as their baby, to save their asses. So, they defer off into just after the 2014 mid terms. Also, Obama has been meeting with the mainstream media....off the record. Harry Reid goes with the nuclear option. Anyone see what the hell is going on? It is not good. The democrats are basically setting themselves up to be able to just walk by, throw a rock through the window and grab whatever they want. That is not government, it's thuggery!!! But, we can't impeach because the president is black and the ramifications will be wide reaching. Next time we elect a president, these things need to be considered very strongly. A minority will get away with murder in this PC world. They are untouchable. Can't call them out for their character flaws or violations of law or the constitution.......that would be racist!

[Boomchild]

Republicans have too much integrity to try and manipulate elections the way the Dems have been doing.

I wouldn't be so sure of that.