Seven Wishes wrote:Where the hell do you drudge up this shit? Boy, you really drink the Cool-Aid, don't you? What is this misconception that anyone on the left side of the spectrum is a lazy, good-for-nothing moocher?
I've worked my ass off my whole life - never collected unemployment. I've made good money at times, and not so much at other times. No matter where I fall on the economic spectrum, I have empathy. I want to help take care of those less fortunate than myself. You're only as strong as your weakest link.
As long as anachronistic neo-conservative closet fascists like you don't overly infiltrate the gene pool - often using your "religion" as a sword, I might add - the reality that we're all in this together will never be lost on the majority. So, keep bleating and blabbering away. Don't let me stop you.
Incidentally, this little table should help clear up any misconceptions about whose economic policies create more jobs. That retraction (austerity) slows economic growth and increases unemployment is an unassailable fact.
Several things go into determining unemployment. Not just a president's role. Obviously congress and whatever trends are occurring. It's overall policy, not a single guy.
As I have said many times, most people on all sides of the spectrum are decent, hard working, honest people. We forget that a lot. And I would say that the "lazy" people of the country could be comprised of all sides as well. BUT - anyone who does not see that MOST freeloaders vote Democrat is just being flat out blind and dishonest. You don't hear conservatives talking about Obama money or phones or what the government is going to give them. That's a liberal philosophy for sure. And hard working liberals support policies and candidates that make it easier to freeload.
I think conservatives want to help the needy. They just want to weed out the lazy people and the entitlement crowd while doing so. So when conservatives talk about freeloaders, they are talking about that portion of the population that can help themselves, but choose not to. And without a doubt, the policies that Obama has put in place have made it far easier for people to choose freeloading. I can't even imagine that someone could see otherwise. It just is.
Now, that's not to say that some conservative policies haven't pushed people to freeload. Not everything works on either side.
One big Obama policy is to take away the past requirements of what qualifies someone for disability. So now with a hangnail (figuratively speaking), you can go on disability and choose not to work. That's a liberal policy. To promise someone a home and get them set up for a couple years with low payments, knowing full well they cannot afford the home after that, and then doing everything in your power to forgive the burden is a liberal policy and it crushed this nation for a few years. Not to mention they are starting to do it again. Spending time doing everything except creating jobs - well that's just an inexperienced guy's policy.
Pushing $85 billion into our economy using borrowed money is a liberal policy (seemingly supported by politicians on all sides). It is supported by the left because it hides the state of our country and allows the government to play hero (at least until it all comes crashing down - and it will). And the Republicans (not conservatives) support it because this policy is doing more to make the rich richer than anything in recent memory.
War, you could surely say, is a conservative policy and costs this country in many ways as well. Appeasement is a liberal policy and it costs this country in other ways.
Creating a policy that tells insurance companies that contraceptives must be free, regardless of how wealthy the individual is, is a liberal and silly policy. If the poor need access to contraceptives, fine. But create a better fiscal policy by dealing with the poor and not forcing insurance companies to cover the wealthy for free.
So I get a little confused when a conservative, who can understand how math and policy works, is referred to as "anachronistic neo-conservative closet fascists". Why does someone like you need the government to solve every single problem and push money to people that could do better themselves? How about pushing better policies that help everyone? I ask that of both sides.
I feel liberals flat out lose nearly all economic arguments and Republicans lose out on nearly all the social arguments. When I think of Conservatives, I guess I think economic policy and not social. When I think Republican, I think some conservative economic policies and some really out-dated social policies.
People ought to stop all the name calling and just debate the issues. It's what the real problem is here.
Also - we do have the right to bear arms. It doesn't matter what the constitution says if we have held that right for our ENTIRE history as a country. In our entirety as a nation, no one has ever taken away our right to own guns. Ever. Some want to. But no one has ever done it. And there is no need. One of the biggest dishonest ideas coming out of the liberal camp is that gun control reduces crime or violence. Just a really stupid argument. It's not factually true. And even if it were, so what? Shit happens when you are a free country. If we all went back to horse and buggy, maybe less people would die. But we aren't that backward.
So let me turn this around on you Seven. You say that most liberals are hard working, self-sustaining people like yourself. I agree. So would you not agree that 99% of the gun owners in this country - many, many of them liberals, are decent, safe, responsible gun owners? There are hundreds of millions of guns in the hands of our citizens right now. Most of them are locked up safely and used responsibly. And there have been more incidents lately where those guns have saved the life or property of someone than used in mass killings. I think to solve a big part of the problem, we should take all the guns of gang members and other criminals. But a combo of conservative policies and liberal policies keep us from tearing these gangs down. And the fight between them keeps us from progressing. Too much name calling.
