President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Boomchild]

Harry Reid is piece of work...

Some Reid staffers exempt from Obamacare exchanges
By Chris Frates, CNN Investigative Correspondent
updated 10:19 AM EST, Wed December 4, 2013

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/04/politics/ ... olitics%29

This just seems to support the idea that we really do not have a two party system anymore. What we have is a one party system acting like a two party system but the opposition is just a show put on for the sake of the voters.

[Boomchild]

Another lie uncovered..

http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-rever ... 20835.html

Their defense is so laughable. "No one spoke to the President".

[steveo777]

Harry Reid is piece of work...

Some Reid staffers exempt from Obamacare exchanges
By Chris Frates, CNN Investigative Correspondent
updated 10:19 AM EST, Wed December 4, 2013

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/04/politics/ ... olitics%29

This just seems to support the idea that we really do not have a two party system anymore. What we have is a one party system acting like a two party system but the opposition is just a show put on for the sake of the voters.

It seems that way. If Rand Paul can successfully do what he plans with Detroit and the results are there, he will be a hero and may very well be our next president.....as long as he runs as a Republican, not a libertarian.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12 ... rongholds/

[Memorex]

I'm not always right, but when I am....

I had said previously that the media was going to go a little crazy over how many people start signing up for Obamacare. And that's all I've been hearing the last couple days. Overwhelmed. Huge numbers. Mass demand.

As I said before, this has to be true because our government has threatened the populace with fines from the IRS if they do not comply with the new demand of having to be covered by insurance in the next few days. Whether people want it or not, the government has given them no choice. So by design, there has to be compliance and therefore demand.

Some in the media are reporting that even with the numbers that are coming in, it's still not enough to make the program successful - by far.

I'm sure the president will order the IRS to withhold their letters fining individuals for non-compliance until after the mid-terms.

[Memorex]

Fuck!

Today was the deadline for signing up for new benefits for the 2014 calendar year at work. I knew there would be an increase, but damn. $59 more per paycheck. That's nearly $1,500 more per year that I pay for not one single new benefit. Not one! And I had already been hit with increases each year prior to this.

I do not have this money. What a joke. This pisses me off.

I sure hope someone else enjoys their free healthcare.

[Memorex]

Fuck!

Today was the deadline for signing up for new benefits for the 2014 calendar year at work. I knew there would be an increase, but damn. $59 more per paycheck. That's nearly $1,500 more per year that I pay for not one single new benefit. Not one! And I had already been hit with increases each year prior to this.

I do not have this money. What a joke. This pisses me off.

I sure hope someone else enjoys their free healthcare.

This was the response I got from HR when I asked why the increase with no new benefits. Wonderful.

The increase in price reflects an increase in fees going to the government. Those fees are charged to the insurance company who is now passing those fees to the customer.

[Boomchild]

HealthCare.gov currently seeing errors in 1 of 10 data transfers to insurers, government spokeswoman says - @Reuters

Can't be true, B.O. said the site has been fixed.

[Monker]

HealthCare.gov currently seeing errors in 1 of 10 data transfers to insurers, government spokeswoman says - @Reuters

Can't be true, B.O. said the site has been fixed.

It sounds to me like the website IS fixed...and it is a small percent of the data transfers that are broke, which doesn't surprise me much. This is not just the governments programming, it is the insurers who have to accept the transfer.

But, of course you wouldn't understand that the website and a data transfer are two different things. The ant-Obama people are counting on your ignorance so they can continue the whining.

[Monker]

EX-OFFICIAL SAYS FBI CAN SECRETLY ACTIVATE AN INDIVIDUAL’S WEBCAM WITHOUT THE INDICATOR LIGHT TURNING ON

The FBI can secretly activate a computer’s webcam to spy on an individual without turning on the indicator light, a former official revealed to the Washington Post in an article published Friday.

According to the Washington Post’s account of what Marcus Thomas — former assistant director of the FBI’s Operational Technology Division in Quantico — said, “The FBI has been able to covertly activate a computer’s camera — without triggering the light that lets users know it is recording — for several years, and has used that technique mainly in terrorism cases or the most serious criminal investigations.”

Blah, blah, blah. Again, until you can look at the bigger picture, you are just drinking Kool-Aid and then passing the pitcher around. Oh, yeah!

Get over it...The NSA, FBI, CIA, etc.,.have gotten away with crap for decades. Until BOTH parties denounce it, then it will continue. Republicans and conservatives (in general, not every single individual) SUPPORTED everything W did...and now you whine about it when YOUR party is not in power. Hypocrites.

[Memorex]

EX-OFFICIAL SAYS FBI CAN SECRETLY ACTIVATE AN INDIVIDUAL’S WEBCAM WITHOUT THE INDICATOR LIGHT TURNING ON

The FBI can secretly activate a computer’s webcam to spy on an individual without turning on the indicator light, a former official revealed to the Washington Post in an article published Friday.

According to the Washington Post’s account of what Marcus Thomas — former assistant director of the FBI’s Operational Technology Division in Quantico — said, “The FBI has been able to covertly activate a computer’s camera — without triggering the light that lets users know it is recording — for several years, and has used that technique mainly in terrorism cases or the most serious criminal investigations.”

Blah, blah, blah. Again, until you can look at the bigger picture, you are just drinking Kool-Aid and then passing the pitcher around. Oh, yeah!

Get over it...The NSA, FBI, CIA, etc.,.have gotten away with crap for decades. Until BOTH parties denounce it, then it will continue. Republicans and conservatives (in general, not every single individual) SUPPORTED everything W did...and now you whine about it when YOUR party is not in power. Hypocrites.

I think Republicans were foolish not to know this would happen. But no that people do know, it's right to be outraged. I was one that did not support spying on American citizens then and I don't support it now.

The issue I have here is that it seems like since your guy is in there, you are saying that it's ok because we've done it all along. Should we all be standing up and saying no, this is not ok? It doesn't matter who is in. The ONLY way this changes is if enough people voice the fact that this is absolutely unacceptable. I am one that would rather a few people die each year than have the government up are asses so much. What's going on is wrong and I think we can all agree on that.

[Memorex]

EX-OFFICIAL SAYS FBI CAN SECRETLY ACTIVATE AN INDIVIDUAL’S WEBCAM WITHOUT THE INDICATOR LIGHT TURNING ON

The FBI can secretly activate a computer’s webcam to spy on an individual without turning on the indicator light, a former official revealed to the Washington Post in an article published Friday.

According to the Washington Post’s account of what Marcus Thomas — former assistant director of the FBI’s Operational Technology Division in Quantico — said, “The FBI has been able to covertly activate a computer’s camera — without triggering the light that lets users know it is recording — for several years, and has used that technique mainly in terrorism cases or the most serious criminal investigations.”

Blah, blah, blah. Again, until you can look at the bigger picture, you are just drinking Kool-Aid and then passing the pitcher around. Oh, yeah!

Get over it...The NSA, FBI, CIA, etc.,.have gotten away with crap for decades. Until BOTH parties denounce it, then it will continue. Republicans and conservatives (in general, not every single individual) SUPPORTED everything W did...and now you whine about it when YOUR party is not in power. Hypocrites.

By the way - can't the word hypocrite be used to describe Obama, Hilary, Biden, Reid, and Pelosi more than any group of people on this planet. They have expanded and fought for everything they fought against. Everything. The president's power has increased exponentially. He is far more secretive and manipulative of the press than anyone I've witnessed. He changes the rules when it suits him.

I'm not saying every president isn't like it, but this one and that group were by far the most vocal against all this stuff. Only to grow it once in power. So all sides can do some finger pointing here.

[Memorex]

HealthCare.gov currently seeing errors in 1 of 10 data transfers to insurers, government spokeswoman says - @Reuters

Can't be true, B.O. said the site has been fixed.

It sounds to me like the website IS fixed...and it is a small percent of the data transfers that are broke, which doesn't surprise me much. This is not just the governments programming, it is the insurers who have to accept the transfer.

But, of course you wouldn't understand that the website and a data transfer are two different things. The ant-Obama people are counting on your ignorance so they can continue the whining.

I think the point is that many people - up to 25% - will not be covered on Jan 1 and won't know it. Not a big deal for the IRS to adjust their penalties, but what about people that need care?

Not that the law should be there in the first place, but no sense in forcing a date if technology can't meet it. It's not a small percentage. It's 1 in 10 now and was 1 in 4 last month and the month prior. Oh well. It will all work itself out. But definitely not something the government should be involved in.

[slucero]

HealthCare.gov currently seeing errors in 1 of 10 data transfers to insurers, government spokeswoman says - @Reuters

Can't be true, B.O. said the site has been fixed.

It sounds to me like the website IS fixed...and it is a small percent of the data transfers that are broke, which doesn't surprise me much. This is not just the governments programming, it is the insurers who have to accept the transfer.

But, of course you wouldn't understand that the website and a data transfer are two different things. The ant-Obama people are counting on your ignorance so they can continue the whining.

A website that is (by the governments own admission) only 60% complete, and (according to the Congressional testimony of internet security experts ) has little to no security built in..

is not "fixed".

[Boomchild]

A website that is (by the governments own admission) only 60% complete, and (according to the Congressional testimony of internet security experts ) has little to no security built in..

is not "fixed".

I may be incorrect, but I thought I heard someone that is involved with the system stating that it will not be fully functional until 2017. Additionally, the insurance companies will have to estimate how much the Federal Government owes them because they don't even have the payment process to the insurers in place yet. One would have thought that B.O. would have made sure that things were ready and tested so that fumbles and acts of sure incompetence could not be used by it's opposition to pan the system. Instead they have given the opposition a great gift. The question is will they use it effectively.

[Boomchild]

I think Republicans were foolish not to know this would happen. But no that people do know, it's right to be outraged. I was one that did not support spying on American citizens then and I don't support it now.

The issue I have here is that it seems like since your guy is in there, you are saying that it's ok because we've done it all along. Should we all be standing up and saying no, this is not ok? It doesn't matter who is in. The ONLY way this changes is if enough people voice the fact that this is absolutely unacceptable. I am one that would rather a few people die each year than have the government up are asses so much. What's going on is wrong and I think we can all agree on that.

Sometimes I get the impression that a large group of Americans are not concerned about it. After all, on a daily basis people spill their guts and details about their personal lives through social sites.

[slucero]

A website that is (by the governments own admission) only 60% complete, and (according to the Congressional testimony of internet security experts ) has little to no security built in..

is not "fixed".

I may be incorrect, but I thought I heard someone that is involved with the system stating that it will not be fully functional until 2017. Additionally, the insurance companies will have to estimate how much the Federal Government owes them because they don't even have the payment process to the insurers in place yet. One would have thought that B.O. would have made sure that things were ready and tested so that fumbles and acts of sure incompetence could not be used by it's opposition to pan the system. Instead they have given the opposition a great gift. The question is will they use it effectively.

"functional" depends on which side of the fence you are on... and what your definition of functional is.

Can it receive and store users personal info? That appears to be the definition of functional for the government...

Can it receive and store users personal info SAFELY? According to most industry security experts.. that answer is a resounding "no".

A house is functional as a dwelling.. but leaving the door open 24/7 will undoubtedly result is something being stolen. One could shut the doors, and/or install locks. But building a website with security isn't something that can be done "after the fact".. According to the security experts, building a website requires security be built into its code from inception. That is the only way to ensure it is "functional" in a way that protects those who use it. Healthcare.gov was not built that way, and Congressional testimony by security experts before and AFTER the supposed "fix" clearly state that. Their recommendations are:

1. Do not use the site at all.
2. The site be completely rebuilt, from scratch.

http://freebeacon.com/expert-healthcare ... after-fix/

The Federal government is not required to divulge if hacking has occurred (the states are). At this point the healthcare.gov site is ripe for hacking...

[verslibre]

The religion of peace!

http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-seek-refuge-central-african-airport-223752147.html

[Boomchild]

B.O. and company sink to a new low at Nelson Mandela Memorial....



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/1 ... 19349.html

[Memorex]

B.O. and company sink to a new low at Nelson Mandela Memorial....



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/1 ... 19349.html

There are plenty of things to criticize about any president. But come on. This is perfectly fine. Any outrage over this is by people that have never been to a memorial or funeral. There is plenty of time for laughing and such. I don't think I have ever been to a funeral where I didn't take pictures with people.

And I am sure people will want to spend months talking about the handshake. But come on. It's all bullshit.

[Boomchild]

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There are plenty of things to criticize about any president. But come on. This is perfectly fine. Any outrage over this is by people that have never been to a memorial or funeral. There is plenty of time for laughing and such. I don't think I have ever been to a funeral where I didn't take pictures with people.

And I am sure people will want to spend months talking about the handshake. But come on. It's all bullshit.

People do consider this practice as tacky. Maybe you don't which is fine. These events are about the person being memorialized not you.

[Memorex]

Hmmm. Never thought of it as tacky. I thought if it as memories, especially if it's with people you have not seen in many years and may not see until the next funeral. I'm not saying I go around snapping pictures in everyone's face, but if the opportunity is there, who cares? Maybe it's me. In any case, I think there is a lot more to worry about in the world than this. That's all I'm saying.

[Boomchild]

Hmmm. Never thought of it as tacky. I thought if it as memories, especially if it's with people you have not seen in many years and may not see until the next funeral. I'm not saying I go around snapping pictures in everyone's face, but if the opportunity is there, who cares? Maybe it's me. In any case, I think there is a lot more to worry about in the world than this. That's all I'm saying.

As I said maybe it's not tacky for you and that's fine. But I just thought it was tacky for someone like the POTUS to be doing. Yes, there are bigger issues but this is hardly the place where those subjects are the only things posted in these forums.

[verslibre]

Dayum. Do those pix tell a story or WHAT?! "Look at Barry...he want that vanilla!"

[Boomchild]

Dayum. Do those pix tell a story or WHAT?! "Look at Barry...he want that vanilla!"

Oops.....are things not going so well in the land of Camelot or would that be Obamolot?

[slucero]

Good explanation of how the ACA works.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Y-5rjsaJY

[Boomchild]

Good explanation of how the ACA works.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Y-5rjsaJY

Found this informative. So if they don't get enough people in the 25yrs to 34yrs age group to sign up then the system fails. I wonder if the fines for not having insurance in this age bracket is much lower then the premiums. If so, would people just pay the fine to save themselves the cost of having insurance?

[slucero]

Good explanation of how the ACA works.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Y-5rjsaJY

Found this informative. So if they don't get enough people in the 25yrs to 34yrs age group to sign up then the system fails. I wonder if the fines for not having insurance in this age bracket is much lower then the premiums. If so, would people just pay the fine to save themselves the cost of having insurance?

Many are going to do just that because the fine is way less than their deductible would ever be... it won't be just 25-34 though... the "break even" for the ACA has to be somewhere in the middle of the table where plan+deduction cost equals the ACA's calculated actual patient expense for that age range.

[slucero]

Here TNC, Merry Christmas from Us To you!


http://www.cnbc.com/id/101264757

The rich do not pay the most taxes, they pay ALL the taxes


Buried inside a Congressional Budget Office report this week was this nugget: when it comes to individual income taxes, the top 40 percent of wage earners in America pay 106 percent of the taxes. The bottom 40 percent...pay negative 9 percent.

You read that right. One group is paying more than 100 percent of individual income taxes, the other is paying less than zero.

It's right there in Table 3 on page 13 of the report. The numbers are based on 2010 IRS and Census Bureau figures.

This is what happens when middle class jobs get shipped to China.

That is all.

[Boomchild]

Here TNC, Merry Christmas from Us To you!


http://www.cnbc.com/id/101264757

The rich do not pay the most taxes, they pay ALL the taxes


Buried inside a Congressional Budget Office report this week was this nugget: when it comes to individual income taxes, the top 40 percent of wage earners in America pay 106 percent of the taxes. The bottom 40 percent...pay negative 9 percent.

You read that right. One group is paying more than 100 percent of individual income taxes, the other is paying less than zero.

It's right there in Table 3 on page 13 of the report. The numbers are based on 2010 IRS and Census Bureau figures.

This should be no surprise, and if B.O. has his way they will be paying a whole lot more. After all according to him and those that think like him "they didn't build that" so why should they be able to keep the benefits from it.

[Boomchild]

A little holiday cheer from your friendly NSA......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pcWlyUu8U4