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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:44 pm

Monker wrote:
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“And like the 50 of you, none of them were born American – they became American.”


This is factually incorrect. What she's doing is pure obfuscation...


It is not incorrect. Her words have a very obvious meaning, which your mind is twisting to find a way to be insulting and incorrect. How lame.


Whats is lame is you defending her... when she clearly did not speak fact.


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slucero wrote:Also, in the context said, it is intended to give the impression that the signers were ALL immigrants.. when in fact 48 of the 56 signers were native born Americans.. It's not a simple mistake.. she's a lawyer for Gods sake... and her hubby is a Constitutional scholar...
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NO IT'S NOT giving that impression. When I read that it was plain to me that what she was saying is they were not "American" because the USA did not exist. They were, in FACT, English citizens living in English colonies on the North America continent. Please, stop poluting reality with your own illusions.


Creating ambiguity with the native born status of the signers is making an impression.. a false one.

Once again... from Websters Dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/native-born

native–born
adjective
Full Definition of NATIVE-BORN
: belonging to or associated with a particular place (as a country) by birth therein <a native-born American> <native-born stock — Survey Graphic> <supply of native-born labor in the South is equal to the demand — Textile World> — compare natural-born


By Websters own definition, Mrs. Obama was obfuscating, regardless of whether it was intentional or not. She made the FACT that 48 of the signers were native-born ambiguous.

You really should try reading next time without your head up your ass...

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:37 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:IWeapons of mass destruction were found, just not reported by the press. What is your definition of a weapon of mass destruction Monker?

And the Bush Administration, which was prone to milking every last drop of good PR out of 9/11 and the terrorist threat, didn't announce or celebrate this HUGE discovery because? But yea, it's the liberal media's fault. I guess Keith Olbermann and Barbra Walters slapped The White House with a gag order or something. :roll: :roll:

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:19 am

Fact Finder wrote:
Sunni Extremists in Iraq Occupy Saddam's Chemical Weapons Facility

WSJ ^ | June 19, 2014 | Julian E. Barnes


Washington—Sunni extremists in Iraq have occupied what was once Saddam Hussein's premier chemical-weapons production facility, a complex that still contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department and other U.S. government officials said.

U.S. officials don't believe the Sunni militants will be able to create a functional chemical weapon from the material. The weapons stockpiled at the Al Muthanna complex are old, contaminated...

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...




The stoOpid does hurt doesn't it?

An article in The Murdoch Street Journal is the same thing as a White House acknowledgment? On what planet? Yeh, you are pretty fucking stupid bro. Sorry.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:22 am

Fact Finder wrote:Whose Sarin?

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n24/seymour-m- ... hose-sarin


Long and uncomfortable read for some...

Sy Hersh is one of the most famous liberal journalists of all time. Normally, if I posted a link from him you would write it off as a "communist hatchet smear job." Now you pretend as if you read or believe Hersh's exposes? You're a hypocritical fraud.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:35 am

ALL real journalists attack both sides. And when they do, they earn the scorn of idiots like you. Sy did some insightful reporting on Bush and the WMD lie. Don't recall you ever posting it. Gee, I wonder why that is... :roll:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby trekman » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:06 am

Glenn Beck admits he was wrong. http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/06/18/gle ... ming-true/

So what does happen if Iran & Iraq get into an all out war? Will Saudi Arabia stand back and wait for a winner? What about Pakistan & Egypt where do their loyalties lie, ISIS, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Quaida? Would Palestine get involved? Can Iraq really hold its own against Iran & its allies?

But more importantly is IF it happens what happens to the oil? Obama seems hell bent in seeing America staying dependent on Middle East oil. And raising the cost of gas and energy sources to Americans. You dont think those barbarians wont take the world hostage for oil? And when/if it gets cut off will he back down and allow America to become energy independent? Or kiss even MORE Middle east ass?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:25 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:So what your telling me TNC is Bush could have gotten some possitive press? That's just plain stupid! Bush could have killed Bin Laden and the press would have gone out of it's way to make him look like a fool. The Press went out of it's way to destroy Bush, and every other Conservative, though I view Bush as a progressive moderate myself. Your memory sucks. Using another liberal trick, attack Fact Finders source for posts, but not respond to what was said. I'm losing respect for you, not that I had any.

According to this logic, the Bush admin also wouldn't have bothered to make a big deal out of capturing Saddam (which they did) or out of every alleged terrorist plot that was thwarted (which they did). My memory is just fine, bitch. Your grasp on reality, obviously is not
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:34 am

Fact Finder wrote:Is Kerrys State Dept. good enough for ya? Smartass.... "

No. Show me the Oval Office speech to the country where Bush announces that "we found them." We saw this triumphalism regarding Saddam's capture and aboard the USS Lincoln, yet in interviews, W. has sidestepped this issue, even when asked directly. I wouldn't use the word "modest" to describe the Bush/Cheney admin, so what is the deal? Go attempt rewriting history with some of your idiot friends down at the bar who don't know any better. Not gonna fly around here.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby trekman » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:46 am

Ive said it before. And believed it since I first started reading about Islam. They WILL NOT stop once they control the Middle East. Their plan has always been move onto Europe and the USA. It WILL NOT end until they are all dead or have completed their world conquest.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:54 am

Lmao. Quoting Sy Hersh, John Kerry,..sure, what else ya got? Michael Moore? Jane Fonda? You have no ideoligical integrity whatsoever. None. In one post, your making the case for invading Iraq and then your posting links claiming that Obama went into Syria based on faulty WMD intell. What the hell? That's like me defending the Gulf of Tonkin cuz LBJ was a Dem. Holy shit are you a whore with no core beliefs. You're all over the map, dude, and just posting whatever sticks - (secret muslim kenyan spam emails, liberal op-eds)...anything to make your "team" look good..can you say desperate? Might want to sit in for a few adult night classes at those indoctrination centers where your daughters attend. You have all the critical thinking skills of Sean Hannity's anal jelldo.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:15 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:So what your telling me TNC is Bush could have gotten some possitive press? That's just plain stupid! Bush could have killed Bin Laden and the press would have gone out of it's way to make him look like a fool. The Press went out of it's way to destroy Bush, and every other Conservative, though I view Bush as a progressive moderate myself. Your memory sucks. Using another liberal trick, attack Fact Finders source for posts, but not respond to what was said. I'm losing respect for you, not that I had any.



That is just a bunch of crap. The press did NOT go after W in any way. There was no critique of his decision to go to war in Iraq until WELL after it was in play. They were just as big of pussies as the Democrats. Just a TINY bit of investigation would have shown the guy giving all of the intel was a complete ass that nobody should have believed.

The press of this country COMPLETELY dropped the ball. They were too afraid of being labeled unpatriotic and anti-American by critiquing W.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:19 am

trekman wrote:Glenn Beck admits he was wrong. http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/06/18/gle ... ming-true/

So what does happen if Iran & Iraq get into an all out war? Will Saudi Arabia stand back and wait for a winner? What about Pakistan & Egypt where do their loyalties lie, ISIS, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Quaida? Would Palestine get involved? Can Iraq really hold its own against Iran & its allies?

But more importantly is IF it happens what happens to the oil? Obama seems hell bent in seeing America staying dependent on Middle East oil. And raising the cost of gas and energy sources to Americans. You dont think those barbarians wont take the world hostage for oil? And when/if it gets cut off will he back down and allow America to become energy independent? Or kiss even MORE Middle east ass?


My God, Beck is an idiot. Obama has tried since he took office to encourage alternative fuels. There is in fact NO NEED to drill more in the US when we don't have the refineries to process more oil anyways. No matter what Obama did, he would have be critiqued by Beck.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:27 am

The lies and misrepresentation of facts in this thread are ridiculous.

iraq's known chemical and biological weapons were so old they were no longer usable. There was never anything "new" enough to be usable found.

"Yellowcake" uranium is only usable as fuel for a power plant. It needs to be enriched to be useful for a bomb...even the article posted said that.

All of this was reported AT THE TIME...go look up the ENTIRE story before you start yacking off and misrepresenting history.

Iraq posed NO THREAT to the US.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:05 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:So TNC, what your saying is the Press was good to Bush? Your that stupid and that big of a liar?

Did I say that, you dumb fucking hick? Now that you mention it tho, Monker is 100% correct. Until Iraq went to shambles and Katrina put the nail in the coffin, the media was very even-handed with Bush. The NYTimes even sat on the NSA spying story, at the Bush administration's request, until after the election. Does that sound like a media with their knives out?

Of course, all right wingers play the victim card. The Nazis did this too. In spite of their power, they were always complaining about the big bad biased media being the "jew press" or "press synagogues." Replace "liberal" with "Jew" and it's the same tactic by the same goose-stepping, corporate-funded, christo-fascist bully boys. Once you undermine the press, you can get away with anything.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Sorry, I have a life, job, and don't have 24 hours a day to post.

First off, masturbating to stamps of Ronald Reagan is not a "job", it's a lifestyle choice. Judging by your block posts, you also don't know how to do basic quote and reply. Hard to actually engage with oppositional political voices when your head is filled with one way AM radio monologue on a daily basis, huh? Sorry to shatter your insular bubble, but the things you hold as sacred truths are a pile of bullshit.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Both Democrats and Republicans wanted to go into Iraq.

And who in this thread was denying that? REAL conservatives, like Ron Paul, and real liberals, like Ralph Nader, most certainly were NOT in favor of any such thing. FactFinder, Dick Cheney, and yourself are all FAKE conservatives who think engaging in military Keynesianism and starting 3 trillion dollar wars with countries that don't even have a navy is somehow a conservative principle. Fuck off with your simplistic and murderous idiocy.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The press was totally out to flame Bush. If you can't remember that, you should seek medical help.

Simply not true. Bush relied on the media from day one, as they relentlessly mocked Al Gore in the debates ("I Invented the internet" misquote) and he continued to do so, as "liberal" outfits like the NYTimes indiscriminately printed and carried WMD misinformation on their front pages. As I previously said, the only anti-Iraq War voice in the ENTIRE cable news world was Phil Donahue and he was cancelled by NBC and their parent company/military contractor, GE, for being unpatriotic. Like it or not, those are all indisputable facts.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The students gave him a standing O. It was covered here live, so there was not much the news could do about it. I laughed for days.

Says alot more about the IQ of people in Missouri, including your backwater ass. Send him to the Northeast. Hell, Megyn Kelly kicked Cheney's cryptkeeper ass on Fox News just the other nite.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:30 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:So TNC, what your saying is the Press was good to Bush?


Don't know about TNC but I am saying the press went WAY too easy on W in the build up and the first couple years after the war started in Iraq. It wasn't until years after the war started that the press in general was criticized for going too easy on him that they started investigating and asking the tough questions.

In a time of war I'd rather have a press that is critical of a President...because he is sending our kids to another country to fight and die. We all should EXPECT the press to be tough on a President for making that decision. Kinda sad when people feel their lives are so invaluable to not question why they are being sent off to possibly die...especially when a group of chicken-hawks are doing the sending.

Fact Finder, around the last year Bush was in office, Cheeny came to Lees Summit Missouri to talk to the high school. The students were well prepped to hate Cheeny and resent America for going to war with Iraq. Cheeny took the stage, and in ten minutes made idiots out of the teachers. When he finished his talking points about going into Iraq, there was nothing left to say. The students gave him a standing O. It was covered here live, so there was not much the news could do about it. I laughed for days.


And, you still can't prove that Iraq posed any real threat to this country. What you all have posted is old news about useless decaying chemical weapons, and unrefined uranium. It is an absolute total fabrication to suggest Iraq posed any threat to the United States. It is simpy NOT TRUE.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:39 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Both Democrats and Republicans wanted to go into Iraq.

And who in this thread was denying that? REAL conservatives, like Ron Paul, and real liberals, like Ralph Nader, most certainly were NOT in favor of any such thing. FactFinder, Dick Cheney, and yourself are all FAKE conservatives who think engaging in military Keynesianism and starting 3 trillion dollar wars with countries that don't even have a navy is somehow a conservative principle. Fuck off with your simplistic and murderous idiocy.


I AM. The Democrats were mostly, "Oh, well, ummm, I'm against sending troops to Iraq. But, well, it's like the President's decision and stuff like that and I just want to show unity of the country so I'll vote for this. Just remember that I really don't agree with this decision, and it's the President's decision...remember that." What a bunch of pussies.

You're right : True conservatives do not want to spend money on war....especially against a country that is not a threat. I mean, come on, Cuba was more of a threat then Iraq.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The press was totally out to flame Bush. If you can't remember that, you should seek medical help.

Simply not true. Bush relied on the media from day one, as they relentlessly mocked Al Gore in the debates ("I Invented the internet" misquote) and he continued to do so, as "liberal" outfits like the NYTimes indiscriminately printed and carried WMD misinformation on their front pages. As I previously said, the only anti-Iraq War voice in the ENTIRE cable news world was Phil Donahue and he was cancelled by NBC and their parent company/military contractor, GE, for being unpatriotic. Like it or not, those are all indisputable facts.


Bill Mahr was also critical of the war....and his show "Politically Incorrect" also got canceled....and wasn't due to ratings.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:07 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Bush did everything by the book...

LMAO. Using the fourth amendment and habeas corpus as a bib at the Old Country Buffet is "by the book"? Taking the Nuremberg consensus on aggressive war, flipping it on its head, and making it the sine qua non of US foreign policy is "by the book"? Creating a concentration camp off the coast of Cuba is "by the book"? Go kill yourself, you sad dumb motherfucker.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:...the delays were because actions inside the State, not the White house.

No clue what this refers to. If by state you mean Iraq, this is a lie. Hans Blix, the weapons inspector was coming up empty and Bush pulled him out to start shock and awe. Bush's first Treasury Secretary, Paul O'Neil, has stated that Bush was talking about invading Iraq as soon as he took office. The fix was in from the very beginning.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Monker has at least mellowed out a little. Thanks for proving what a miserable prick, like most liberals, but yoiu excel at it TNC, you truly are.

And yet most of your technically inept posts are directed at Monker, not me. Learn how to quote, retard.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:That fact that you stand so far up Obama's ass TNC, makes you nothing more to me but a hateful fucking idiot with no life. A worthless prick just doesn't cut it with you.

Called for O's impeachment years ago. Truth is, Obama has accelerated the Bush-Cheney security state, so you should be happier than a pig in shit. Pretty soon there will be domestic police drones whizzing overhead in residential neighborhoods everywhere. Maybe you will be caught spying in the bushes on your neighbors fucking and put away in a black site. When you ask to call a lawyer, the masked prison guard will tell you that you no longer have that right. Bush did away with it. All "by the book" and on the up and up, of course. :roll: :wink:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:04 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The Press was one Bush from day one. He never got a break.


THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. Google it. Bush got a free pass on Iraq for YEARS from the press. It wasn't until they started being critiqued for dropping the ball that they started being negative about the war.

That would include Katrina. Bush did everything by the book and it has been proven over and over that the delays were because actions inside the State, not the White house.


Who cares? Who is the one on this forum who said that leaders LEAD? I know I am the one who quoted Hopper, "The first rule of leadership - EVERYTHING is your fault."

He is the President of the United States dealing with a national disaster...and HE dropped the ball on a NATIONAL scale. He failed at leading the crisis of Katrina and pointed the finger at everybody else and refused to take any responsibility.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:17 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:TNC, Bush put a limit on the Patriot Act. You Dem's renewed it and Obama had the limit removed.


And, I was the ONLY person on Journey's BackTalk forum at that time critiquing it as a breach our rights...and the only answer I got back was it was necessary to protect us from terrorism and to prove it hasn't been abused. My answer to that was how do you know a future President wouldn't abuse it? Maybe President Hillary?

Where was all the critique from Republicans and Conservatives at THAT time? Too busy waving your flags and asking our children to go off to war, and making excuses for it.

What it is today is nothing like Bush wrote. I'm not a fan of Bush, but I grow tired of the lies told about him. You Dem, or Dumb, assholes ought to love him. He was a Progressive, just not nearly as aggressive as Obama.


Bush was a failed leader. He failed at Katrina, he failed leading the war on terrorism by allowing himself to be talked into a war in Iraq. He failed at the economy, leading us into a depression. He failed at almost EVERYTHING. The state of this country when Obama took office was HORRENDOUS. The only thing W was progressive on was being a failure...setting a new precedent at how much of a failure a President could be.

Again, if you can't see liberal Progressives doing a major fail right now, you are truly stupid. By the way, Fact Finder posted about 5 articals proving you DEAD WRONG about WMD's in Iraq. ]


He posted articles about yellow cake uranium which IS NOT USED for WMD. He posted articles about chemicals which were old, decaying, and useless when inspectors saw them prior to the war. He proved nothing but he's a cherry picker who doesn't care about the facts...and you proved that you are a follower who doesn't care about the facts as long as what is said backs your opinion.

All of these articles were discussed 10yrs ago and proven to be bullshit "false alarms" of WMD in Iraq. No viable WMD's were ever found in Iraq....THAT is the FACT....and I knew that before I even saw it discussed on CNN.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:19 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote: Creating a concentration camp off the coast of Cuba is "by the book"? Go kill yourself, you sad dumb motherfucker.


What a laughable statement. GITMO is far from a concentration camp. I remember reading reports on how the government went to great lengths to accommodate the terrorists ("enemy combatants" for you P.C. folks). Things like making sure they were given their special prayer rugs, not touching their Korans, providing food they were accustomed to eating and supplying exercise equipment to them. However, they refused to use the exercise equipment because the equipment was "made in America". Talk about distortions, your statement is prime example. I guess you feel that the government should have put them up in a five star hotel in D.C..
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby verslibre » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:22 am

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The_Noble_Cause wrote: Creating a concentration camp off the coast of Cuba is "by the book"? Go kill yourself, you sad dumb motherfucker.


What a laughable statement. GITMO is far from a concentration camp. I remember reading reports on how the government went to great lengths to accommodate the terrorists ("enemy combatants" for you P.C. folks). Things like making sure they were given their special prayer rugs, not touching their Korans, providing food they were accustomed to eating and supplying exercise equipment to them. However, they refused to use the exercise equipment because the equipment was "made in America". Talk about distortions, your statement is prime example. I guess you feel that the government should have put them up in a five star hotel in D.C..


Also, didn't some soldiers get into a heap of trouble for taking "funny" pix of them?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:28 am

Boomchild wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote: Creating a concentration camp off the coast of Cuba is "by the book"? Go kill yourself, you sad dumb motherfucker.


What a laughable statement. GITMO is far from a concentration camp. I remember reading reports on how the government went to great lengths to accommodate the terrorists ("enemy combatants" for you P.C. folks). Things like making sure they were given their special prayer rugs, not touching their Korans, providing food they were accustomed to eating and supplying exercise equipment to them. However, they refused to use the exercise equipment because the equipment was "made in America". Talk about distortions, your statement is prime example. I guess you feel that the government should have put them up in a five star hotel in D.C..

No what's funny is how you confidently think the term "concentration camp" only pertains to Nazi Germany. What was done to Japanese Americans in WW 2 was also a concentration camp. Eat cyanide laced shit, you big mouth, know nothing pussy.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:49 am

Boomchild wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote: Creating a concentration camp off the coast of Cuba is "by the book"? Go kill yourself, you sad dumb motherfucker.


What a laughable statement. GITMO is far from a concentration camp. I remember reading reports on how the government went to great lengths to accommodate the terrorists ("enemy combatants" for you P.C. folks). Things like making sure they were given their special prayer rugs, not touching their Korans, providing food they were accustomed to eating and supplying exercise equipment to them. However, they refused to use the exercise equipment because the equipment was "made in America". Talk about distortions, your statement is prime example. I guess you feel that the government should have put them up in a five star hotel in D.C..


Uh, I do believe calling them "enemy combatants" and such is required otherwise GITMO violates international law for keeping civilian prisoners of war.

But, of course the only reason we kept them was to torture them, which also violates international law

W should have just shot them all during his last day in office. That also violates international law but it really doesn't matter to W, doesn't it? Well, Cheney could have done it with a shotgun and said he was out hunting again and happened to miss his target a few thousand times, or whatever.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:51 am

Well, there goes Journey's tour with Steve Miller...way to pick'em Journey!

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Scandal: One of the seven people, including Lois Lerner who lost emails from the period of Tea Party targeting by the IRS, served as chief of staff to former IRS head Steven Miller. She also made 35 visits to the White House.

The funny thing about emails is that they are never orphans. When you send one, there's always a recipient who has his or her own copy. The "lost" Lois Lerner emails had recipients. How about subpoenas to all of them during the Tea Party targeting period? That should help find what we need to know — or maybe not.

It seems six more IRS officials have lost critical emails from that period, a seeming statistical impossibility that shouts out a conspiracy to obstruct justice, and more violations of the Federal Records Act, which requires paper copies of these emails to be printed and stored just in case of computer problems.

One of those officials who received Lerner emails and also lost them was Nikole Flax, chief of staff to former IRS Commissioner Steven Miller. Miller, who was fired in the wake of the targeting scandal, visited the White House more than most Cabinet members.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:17 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Your response of,"you posted an artical by him"? isn't really a answer. It's more of a "duhhh".

And where did I say "you posted an artical by him?", hick? NEVER said such a thing. I DID ask for evidence of The Bush Admin. acknowledging that WMDs were discovered. Instead, FactFinder posted an article from The Wall Street Journal. Did The Bush Admin rely on the WSJ to discuss Terri Schiavo or to deploy The Surge? No, Bush forthrightly addressed the nation HIMSELF. Stop hiding behind partisan right wing sources. The bitter fact you don't (or can't) admit is that W. Bush himself, when asked about WMD, admitted that they found scant NOTHING. In his own ghost-written autobiography, Decision Points, Bush said:

"That was a massive blow to our credibility—my credibility—that would shake the confidence of the American people...No one was more shocked or angry than I was when we didn't find the weapons. I had a sickening feeling every time I thought about it. I still do."

Let me guess, hick, Random House, is part of the big bad liberal media and they altered Bush's manuscript? Or wait, I know, at this point, Bush had become so completely assimilated into the progressive mindset, that he was willing to say anything to turn a quick buck? George W. Bush has long since given up pretending that the Iraq War as about saving the American people from a mushroom cloud of radioactive destruction. Maybe it's time you gave up as well. Oh, and learn how to quote properly, fer fucks sake...
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:44 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:What I said were weapons were found, it was not reported in the press,...

Hey, slimy toothless dumfuck - I just posted in black & white, plain as day, that George W. Bush HIMSELF said both on TV and in his own fucking rag of a bestseller/doorstop that NO WMDs were found. I ask again, is George W. Bush a member of the liberal media? If WMDs were found, why would Bush wait on the media to announce that? The Bush admin certainly did not wait for the media to announce the start of Iraqi Freedom, did not wait for the media to announce the capture of Saddam, did not wait for the media to announce the end to major combat operations, and did not wait for the media to announce the surge. If Bush wasn't gagged by the media to announce any of these major wartime "accomplishments", what would possibly prevent him from announcing the discovery of WMDs? The answer is nothing. You are wrong or a liar, probably both.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Take a reading course.

So says the illiterate asshole who responds to Monker's posts by replying to me.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I also said Bush is not one of my favorite Presidents...

Oh, I'm sure. You only voted for him twice, slapped your neighbor''s airstream trailer bumper with a Bush/Cheney sticker in the middle of the night, and festooned your entire mobile home community with yard signs. Hell, you probably wrote him in as a candidate in 2008. Go peddle that shit elsewhere, snowball gargling little gay bitch. :roll:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Bush 2 is a one world progressive idiot. You should love him.

Actually, it was Bush 1 who called for a "new world order." but I digress..Bush 2 was much more conservative than Reagan and a helluva alot more conservative than Nixon.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I bet your a East Coast asshole. You have to be with your better then everyone else attitude. Just because you say something, doesn't make it fact.

East Coast, West Coast...I'll kick your sorry ass in any city, country, time zone, continent or solar system. Keep it coming, hick. When you have truth and facts on your side, as I do, you have nothing to fear. Better quick go to SeanHannity.com and call for the calvary, cuz your lies are running preciously thin.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:05 pm

Why are there only a few Obama ball lickers? I'm not going to name names, but they and some of us know who they are.

This president (not capitalized for a reason)

Not respectable
Lies on a daily basis
Is a partisan hack who uses every tool available, including the IRS, NSA and EPA
Law breaker
Congress Bypasser
Race divider
Illegal alien
un-vetted
closet muslim
sealed college records
secret service registration is a fraud
birth certificate is a fraud
mother was a slut
father is not verified, has potentially 2 or 3
health care fraud - If you like your health insurance, you can keep it. If you like your doctor, you can keep him.
releases 5 high level taliban terrorists for one military deserter
orders all irs emails and hard drives destroyed, because this information would prove he was illegally elected again
lied about benghazi, again to skew public opinion, so he could be re-elected
world policy / foreign policy shambles
Threatens media into submission to serve his agenda
Iraq is failing and he goes out fundraising (for democrats, no doubt), without any regard for out military's sacrifice
Al Quaeda is on the run. (bullshit)
The world is a safer place. (bullshit)
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:30 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:No what's funny is how you confidently think the term "concentration camp" only pertains to Nazi Germany. What was done to Japanese Americans in WW 2 was also a concentration camp. Eat cyanide laced shit, you big mouth, know nothing pussy.


Those being detained at GITMO are terrorists or have been involved in aiding the terrorists. Where as the Jewish people and Japanese Americans that were held were innocent people being held against their will. They weren't trying to kill anyone or foster a worldwide caliphate. Also, neither the Jews nor the American Japanese that were put into camps were given the ability to have legal representation like the terrorists are in GITMO. It seems even B.O. is not to concerned about it anymore now that the elections are over. He has yet to do anything on getting them out of there. If you feel this is such a great injustice, maybe you could start calling and picketing the White House over it. Frankly, I am not to concerned about the well being of people looking to kill others on a global scale over some delusional, radical religious beliefs.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:45 am

Boomchild wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:No what's funny is how you confidently think the term "concentration camp" only pertains to Nazi Germany. What was done to Japanese Americans in WW 2 was also a concentration camp. Eat cyanide laced shit, you big mouth, know nothing pussy.


Those being detained at GITMO are terrorists or have been involved in aiding the terrorists. Where as the Jewish people and Japanese Americans that were held were innocent people being held against their will. They weren't trying to kill anyone or foster a worldwide caliphate. Also, neither the Jews nor the American Japanese that were put into camps were given the ability to have legal representation like the terrorists are in GITMO. It seems even B.O. is not to concerned about it anymore now that the elections are over. He has yet to do anything on getting them out of there. If you feel this is such a great injustice, maybe you could start calling and picketing the White House over it. Frankly, I am not to concerned about the well being of people looking to kill others on a global scale over some delusional, radical religious beliefs.

So that's why FDR rounded up the japs? Cuz they were innocent people? How much you wanna bet the US Govt apologizes for Gitmo forty years down the road?? You need a history lesson, son.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:50 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:TNC, you suck your mom's cock with that mouth? As far as kicking my ass, St.John will be at Journey on July 14th, as will I. He can show you where my seats are. Bush was a Progressive. Conservatives dumped on him. How many times have I said I didn't like him or his Dad, but as you select as you wish to try to feel like a big man, you leave out others. Your trying to place my views in a slot and it doesn't fit. I also said I didn't like his Dad, shit for brains. I didn't like Clinton, he would have been a total failure if not for gingrich, and I hate Obama. Any fool can see this job is way over Obama's head, but your not just any fool, are you? I don't like ANY ONE WORLD ORDER. It won't work. Putin and the Middle East is proving that. By the way, i live in Overland Park. Try Googling it. My bet is it's a far better, more upscale city then what you live in. You do seem to know alot about trailos. We don't have any. The city won't allow them.

Learn how to quote, pig fucker. Your boy W. said he regretted finding no WMDs, Case closed. You lose. Bush was more conservative than any Republicans president over the last 50 yrs. Ike and Nixon were more progressive than Obama. So what does that tell yah? Go away sad little fool.
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