President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[The_Noble_Cause]

Since Democrats also run, own companies that love cheap labor, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.

I don't believe in European anarchy or whatever brand of "stay home, don't vote, all politicians are the same" fatalism you support. Between the two parties, the GOP is a handmaiden to corporate power. Saying that they are exactly the same is a false equivalency.

The Real Party of the Rich: Democrats Have More Top Donors, Millionaires in Congress

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/116056- ... arty-rich/


very telling chart at the link.

I said corporate power, not rich people. Not the same thing.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Dumb racist pig? Yeah, right. Because I don't like giving stuff out to people who don't work at the hard working tax payers expense?

No, because you immediately labelled the black woman in the article "a freeloading douchebag dem" even when the article states she hasn't accepted a single dime from Uncle Sam. So what does that say about you?

Because I point out the fact that 95% of everyone who voted for Obama had never even heard of him a year or two before he ran for president...

95% doesn't sound accurate to me. After his speech in 2004 to support Kerry, the presidential buzz had already began. Further more, alot of little known politicians run in the presidential primaries and garner support. Same thing happened with Carter. Similarly, if McCain hadn't chosen Palin, would she be as famous as she is today? Is this a bad thing? I personally, don't want every president to be from the same Bush or Clinton lineage.

and while he was running he had absolutely zero game plan on the table except for the "hope" and "change" fallacy?

This is a lie. Obama had ALOT of detailed policy proposals, including his original form of universal healthcare, which had no mandate. Several economists pointed out early on that without the mandate, it could not be implemented. If you didn't research the candidate beyond a 90 second campaign TV ad, that is your own stupidity.

95% of the democranks voted for him based solely on these three bullet points. And the only racist part of this entire thing is Democrat voter's motive. PERIOD.

I ask again, if McCain was black and Obama was white, would McCain have won? If Herman Cain had the GOP nomination and went up against Hillary, would he have won? The answer is pretty obvious.

[JBlake]

Dumb racist pig? Yeah, right. Because I don't like giving stuff out to people who don't work at the hard working tax payers expense?

No, because you immediately labelled the black woman in the article "a freeloading douchebag dem" even when the article states she hasn't accepted a single dime from Uncle Sam. So what does that say about you?

Because I point out the fact that 95% of everyone who voted for Obama had never even heard of him a year or two before he ran for president...

95% doesn't sound accurate to me. After his speech in 2004 to support Kerry, the presidential buzz had already began. Further more, alot of little known politicians run in the presidential primaries and garner support. Same thing happened with Carter. Similarly, if McCain hadn't chosen Palin, would she be as famous as she is today? Is this a bad thing? I personally, don't want every president to be from the same Bush or Clinton lineage.

and while he was running he had absolutely zero game plan on the table except for the "hope" and "change" fallacy?

This is a lie. Obama had ALOT of detailed policy proposals, including his original form of universal healthcare, which had no mandate. Several economists pointed out early on that without the mandate, it could not be implemented. If you didn't research the candidate beyond a 90 second campaign TV ad, that is your own stupidity.

95% of the democranks voted for him based solely on these three bullet points. And the only racist part of this entire thing is Democrat voter's motive. PERIOD.

I ask again, if McCain was black and Obama was white, would McCain have won? If Herman Cain had the GOP nomination and went up against Hillary, would he have won? The answer is pretty obvious.

Really, I didn't know the woman in the article is black. From that article how should I know what color she is? Where does it say she is in that article? Obviously race is what your focus is on cause you knew she was black and made sure to point that out. Next time you ask who's being racist and racially bias, just take a look in a god damn mirror!

[JBlake]

No, because you immediately labelled the black woman in the article "a freeloading douchebag dem" even when the article states she hasn't accepted a single dime from Uncle Sam. So what does that say about you?

I gave the article another once over after reading your senseless spew claiming I'm racist by "labeling this woman in the article as being black". So where at in my response did I say she was black? It is obvious that "freeloading", "douchebag", "dem" are buzzwords to you for "black". Try and think outside the box and take a look at the demographics of Haiti. Just because someone's a citizen of Haiti doesn't necessarily mean the color of their skin is black. There are also people of Western European: French, German, Italian, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese and Spanish, Arab, Armenian, and Jewish who are Haitian citizens. Wrong again TNC.

BTW, I hadn't watched the video clip attached before writing my initial response that you cut and pasted from.

[The_Noble_Cause]

No, because you immediately labelled the black woman in the article "a freeloading douchebag dem" even when the article states she hasn't accepted a single dime from Uncle Sam. So what does that say about you?

I gave the article another once over after reading your senseless spew claiming I'm racist by "labeling this woman in the article as being black". So where at in my response did I say she was black? It is obvious that "freeloading", "douchebag", "dem" are buzzwords to you for "black". Try and think outside the box and take a look at the demographics of Haiti. Just because someone's a citizen of Haiti doesn't necessarily mean the color of their skin is black. There are also people of Western European: French, German, Italian, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese and Spanish, Arab, Armenian, and Jewish who are Haitian citizens. Wrong again TNC.

BTW, I hadn't watched the video clip attached before writing my initial response that you cut and pasted from.

Just so we are clear.... you didn't read the article or watch the video and yet you immediately labeled the subject of the video/article a " freeloading douchbag Dem blah blah." Umm is that supposed to be better than the racist alternative somehow? At least a white pride racist has a rationale behind his attacks. Thanks for admitting that you are commenting on things you haven't even read. Maybe one of these days FF will post a pro Nambla editorial and you can brainlessly echo your support of that too. I'm sure he loves the feeling of your warm breath on his shit stained balls. Dunce.

[JBlake]

No, because you immediately labelled the black woman in the article "a freeloading douchebag dem" even when the article states she hasn't accepted a single dime from Uncle Sam. So what does that say about you?

I gave the article another once over after reading your senseless spew claiming I'm racist by "labeling this woman in the article as being black". So where at in my response did I say she was black? It is obvious that "freeloading", "douchebag", "dem" are buzzwords to you for "black". Try and think outside the box and take a look at the demographics of Haiti. Just because someone's a citizen of Haiti doesn't necessarily mean the color of their skin is black. There are also people of Western European: French, German, Italian, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese and Spanish, Arab, Armenian, and Jewish who are Haitian citizens. Wrong again TNC.

BTW, I hadn't watched the video clip attached before writing my initial response that you cut and pasted from.

Just so we are clear.... you didn't read the article or watch the video and yet you immediately labeled the subject of the video/article a " freeloading douchbag Dem blah blah." Umm is that supposed to be better than the racist alternative somehow? At least a white pride racist has a rationale behind his attacks. Thanks for admitting that you are commenting on things you haven't even read. Maybe one of these days FF will post a pro Nambla editorial and you can brainlessly echo your support of that too. I'm sure he loves the feeling of your warm breath on his shit stained balls. Dunce.

Wrong again, reread my posts. I read the article and based my response solely on the content of the article, without watching the video linked. Read all your spew and reread the article again. The woman's color is not discussed in both the article FF quoted and in my initial response after reading it. Seriously the first person to spout off about color is the one and only TNC. You're a demented piece of work alright.

The buzzwords "freeloader", "Douchebag", "Dem" triggered you to think I was calling a black person these specific references. When the fact of the matter is, I had no idea she was even black at the time I posted my response with these references. That's the entire premise of your senseless spew, to call me a racist and racially bias and back these claims up of yours by pointing out that I some how believed she was black at the time I wrote my reply. You're like a psycho on riods.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The article said she was a nurse with “no history of ever accepting any form of government assistance." So obviously you did not read it.

[JBlake]

The article said she was a nurse with “no history of ever accepting any form of government assistance." So obviously you did not read it.

Dude you're wrong yet again. I read that on the first pass of the article. But if you happen to review perhaps my second response, I indicated that there was a poor choice of words in that article by stating "caught up in the “hope and change” mantra, believing that his election win would put an end to her having to pay her own gas and mortgage bills?" This choice of words could be misleading, suggesting that she's got a mindset and expects "entitlement" that the government and/or Obama's administration will now pay for her gas and mortgage bills. And as I indicated in that perhaps second response, a more accurate way it could have been written would have been "caught up in the "hope and change" mantra, believing that his election win would allow her to apply more of her hard-earned money to go further (where she would be able to put more of her hard-earned money towards her own gas and mortgage bills). This is what her mind set is, but the article is written in a way that puts it in a light where she'll have her gas and mortgage bills completely paid for by the government and/or Obama administration without any of her own personal contribution, in the form of a hand out.

Regardless of whether or not she's got a history of ever accepting any form of government assistance, the current wording of that article sounds like she wants to start, even though she actually only wanted her money to go further towards her gas and mortgage payments. That's exactly what every hard-working citizen wants. The article just wasn't written to reflect this information accurately. And then along comes TNC with the "black" issues.

[AR]

Public service was never meant to be a career. That's what I see as the fundamental problem with our government.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Dude you're wrong yet again. I read that on the first pass of the article. But if you happen to review perhaps my second response, I indicated that there was a poor choice of words in that article by stating "caught up in the “hope and change” mantra, believing that his election win would put an end to her having to pay her own gas and mortgage bills?" This choice of words could be misleading, suggesting that she's got a mindset and expects "entitlement" that the government and/or Obama's administration will now pay for her gas and mortgage bills. And as I indicated in that perhaps second response, a more accurate way it could have been written would have been "caught up in the "hope and change" mantra, believing that his election win would allow her to apply more of her hard-earned money to go further (where she would be able to put more of her hard-earned money towards her own gas and mortgage bills). This is what her mind set is, but the article is written in a way that puts it in a light where she'll have her gas and mortgage bills completely paid for by the government and/or Obama administration without any of her own personal contribution, in the form of a hand out.

Blah blah blah bullshit blah more bullshit. Keep spinning, racist.

And then along comes TNC with the "black" issues.

Yeh dude, cuz I'm clearly the one who injected race into everything...

Seems they voted for him based on his color and political preference and not because of a proven track record in political accomplishments and experience.

Yeah we lost the "black vote" because we don't capitalize on giving free stuff out to people who don't have enough ambition to get out and work for a living instead.

Tons of illegals flooding into this country and bringing with them lots of disease.

The fact of the matter is, Obama was voted into office only because he was black, which makes that entire deal racially motivated.

When my "imaginary" girlfriend and her family legally immigrated to America, the democrats were the first to offer them affordable housing. But this housing was only offered in "the hood".

Remember who his base voters are.

[JBlake]

Give it up you stupid moron. You're wrong about everything and the last card in you bag of tricks is taking things out of context with quotes as a last ditch effort when you have absolutely nothing else to say and do. The article FF posted mentioned absolutely nothing about skin color. My reply to that article had absolutely no mention of skin color. You yourself are the first who brought skin color up into the conversation. And if you weren't such a moron you'd realize that.

Bottom line TNC, everything....completely everything you say and do means zero, nada.. because it's coming from you (TNC) who is, was and will always be nothing more than one completely sick in the head motherfucker.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Shut up, racist. Nobody cares. You think Bush was great and that 1/2 of the entire country voted against McCain and Romney due to white guilt. Ever stop and think they ran shitty campaigns?

[donnaplease]

Shifting gears a little bit... I was reading an article about Christopher Stevens & Bengazi and the mention of his rape and torture came up. I began looking at the photos of him from that night. If you look closely at this photo you will see that not only is his belt undone, but it appears his pants are on backwards... I can't imagine that he dressed himself that way.

[Boomchild]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lerner-computer-damage-may-intentional-211300579.html

"Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) claimed that he had evidence that the Internal Revenue Service destroyed a computer belonging to a key figure in the IRS targeting scandal despite being told by experts that its data was recoverable. Camp also insinuated that the original damage to the computer was done intentionally."

Hmmm... seems like the thing to do when you want to be as transparent as possible.

[Boomchild]

Lois might see prison yet.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/07/23/we ... ng-missing

I wouldn't be surprised if the information has been sterilized or doctored by now. Which means it won't reveal much of anything.

[Andrew]

Yeah but if asked who she planned to vote for next she'd say either Hilldabeast or some other demcrank who'll make the same promise to this freeloading douchebag dem.

What part exactly of "earned her living as a hard-working nurse" with “no history of ever accepting any form of government assistance" did you not understand? Try reading the whole article next time, dumb racist pig.

Back off and ease up. No more of this shit please.

[Rick]

Yeah but if asked who she planned to vote for next she'd say either Hilldabeast or some other demcrank who'll make the same promise to this freeloading douchebag dem.

What part exactly of "earned her living as a hard-working nurse" with “no history of ever accepting any form of government assistance" did you not understand? Try reading the whole article next time, dumb racist pig.

Back off and ease up. No more of this shit please.

Mr. McNeice! How's the back doing?

[Monker]

What an incredibly stupid thing to say Hillary...

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Fusion TV´s Jorge Ramos that part of the reason Hamas hides rockets in schools and civilian areas is "Gaza is small." "I´m not a military planner but Hamas puts it´s missiles, it´s rockets in civilian areas, part of it is Gaza is pretty small and its densely populated," she said as neglecting the question of whether or not Hamas should have rockets in area to begin with.

Nice paragraph of lies you posted there. There was no question about "should rockets be there?". What she said had NOTHING to do with "why" they hide rockets in schools and such. And, she neglected none of the questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymO0gYGKjNo

The question she was responding to was "was Israel's response appropriate?" The point she was making, which your quote cut-off, was that when Israel responds, there are going to be civilian casualties because Gaza is densely populated and they hide them in schools and such. She EXPLICITLY said Israel has a right to defend itself, they responded after REPEATED rocket attacks, and Hamas was PROVOKING a response.

Maybe next time you can look for the actual interview rather than repeating Republican propaganda and lies here.

[Boomchild]

The question is, Fact finder, will she take the fall, or roll over everyone to save her own ass? My guess is she won't go down alone, I hope.

Only to be given a pardon upon B.O.'s exit from office.

[The_Noble_Cause]

James Madison lived in a agrarian society, you dumb-ass. We didn't even have a Navy yet. If the Constitution is sacrosanct, why did the Founders give us the ability to amend it? Ever hear of this one? "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and General Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.”

[The_Noble_Cause]

I admit you've got me on this one. Hill actually gave a pretty good recap of events.

The question is, why are you spamming this board with links you don't even bother to check out yourself?

[slucero]

James Madison lived in a agrarian society, you dumb-ass. We didn't even have a Navy yet. If the Constitution is sacrosanct, why did the Founders give us the ability to amend it? Ever hear of this one? "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and General Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.”

Actually you should be referring to the 16th Amendment.. which states:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Which means... uniformity no longer matters.

Madison wrote: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined.” But the 16th Amendment essentially gutted the limits of the Spending Clause on government and enables lawmakers and bureaucrats to turn the simple act of collecting taxes into a tool of social engineering.


Whether we like it or not. It is what it is.

[Monker]

I admit you've got me on this one. Hill actually gave a pretty good recap of events.

The question is, why are you spamming this board with links you don't even bother to check out yourself?

I guess I'm like NPR,CNNABCBSMSNBC..throw shit against a wall...

No, it's more like FOX...you don't care if it's true or not, you just say or post BS that you agree with.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Ya, that's why FOX has more viewers the all of the above mentioned.

And 'Keeping Up With the Kardashians' and 'Duck Dynasty' have more viewers than every FOX news show combined. Do you actually have a point? Do you actually think before you type? Roger Ailes, Fox News Chief, is Rush Limbaugh's former producer and a spin doctor for Nixon. There is no equivalent of that in any major American news channel. That's like James Carville being put in charge of NBC news.

[Monker]

Ya, that's why FOX has more viewers the all of the above mentioned. I've watched CNN while living in Ukraine. They should get charged with treason.

YES, you got it...because people like to have their own thoughts and beliefs validated. People don't like facing reality when it disagrees with them. It's easier to stomach lies and misinformation if you believe the premise anyway...add in controversy and stupid conspiracy theories, and you will get viewers in droves. FOX News proves that.

I'm glad you could see that.

[JBlake]

Ya, that's why FOX has more viewers the all of the above mentioned. I've watched CNN while living in Ukraine. They should get charged with treason.

YES, you got it...because people like to have their own thoughts and beliefs validated. People don't like facing reality when it disagrees with them. It's easier to stomach lies and misinformation if you believe the premise anyway...add in controversy and stupid conspiracy theories, and you will get viewers in droves. FOX News proves that.

I'm glad you could see that.

You've just described libby democraps to a tee.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Ya, that's why FOX has more viewers the all of the above mentioned. I've watched CNN while living in Ukraine. They should get charged with treason.

YES, you got it...because people like to have their own thoughts and beliefs validated. People don't like facing reality when it disagrees with them. It's easier to stomach lies and misinformation if you believe the premise anyway...add in controversy and stupid conspiracy theories, and you will get viewers in droves. FOX News proves that.

I'm glad you could see that.

You've just described libby democraps to a tee.

Fox News sued in court for the right to lie to viewers (see link below). Honestly, I think Rupert Murdoch in the near future will divest himself of Fox News. I think out of the entire Fox Empire, he is embarrassed of it. It is like a video/dvd rental store (remember those?) that makes a large percentage of profits from the shady porn section in the back divided by swinging saloon style doors.

http://www.projectcensored.org/11-the-m ... gally-lie/

[Monker]

Ya, that's why FOX has more viewers the all of the above mentioned. I've watched CNN while living in Ukraine. They should get charged with treason.

YES, you got it...because people like to have their own thoughts and beliefs validated. People don't like facing reality when it disagrees with them. It's easier to stomach lies and misinformation if you believe the premise anyway...add in controversy and stupid conspiracy theories, and you will get viewers in droves. FOX News proves that.

I'm glad you could see that.

You've just described libby democraps to a tee.

Oh, please. It's human psychology to want your opinion validated and to associate with those who agree with you, even if the true facts do not back you up. It doesn't matter if you are Republican or Democrat...conservative or liberal.

Your ranting just proves my point. You can't stand the fact that you fall for the propaganda that FOX pukes out on an hourly basis. You can't help it so you act out like a little baby to try to save face.

[Monker]

How judgmenteal of you. We've never met, and you THINK you know everything. I have some sad news for you, you don't. I watch, Fox, CNN, ABC and CBS, I rotate the last two. All of them bullshit to make their point. MSNBC is pure fiction.

And, you are a hypocrite for saying this after your judgmental post of how I would react to Vietnam vets coming home.

Unless you are posting under two ID's, what you replied to wasn't even directed at you.

[Monker]

I've no doubt that both you, and TNC would have stood there proudly when the Vets returned from Viet Nam and yelled "Baby Killers" as loud as you could. No doubt what so ever.

Damn, my post didn't go through...

You are absolutely WRONG.

It is my VERY deep belief that war is pure Hell and those who fight representing our country should be treated with honor and respect for going through that Hell, regardless of what is said in our press and media. A few years ago I got into a big argument with someone on this very thread who posted a video of a gunship shooting at civilians in Iraq...as they criticized them for it. I didn't even comment on the Burgdhal thing. Even if he deserted his post, betrayed his country by giving the enemy information, and even joined the other side for a time......he was still an American soldier fighting for our country and went through HELL because of it. I will NEVER judge somebody who went through that HELL - EVER.

Now, of course, Republicans jumped all over his story...and criticized him in the cruelest of ways. Where was all of your patriotism then? You must have flushed it down the toilet to join those who did the same Vietnam vets. There is really no difference...and the hypocrites like you should join the rest in the Bog of Eternal Stench.

Republicans love to use our military as a political tool...so nobody should be surprised. The Democrats TRY to do the same, so nobody should be surprised by Obama either. But, you all seem to be blind.