President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Monker]

We all know, well all but two of us, that Carney never lies.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1475304/jay-ca ... ecisively/

LOL...and if you read the full article, he says that gridlock is so bad that it really doesn't matter who wins congress. In fact, in the long term it may be BAD for Republicans because everybody hates congress.

[Monker]

Ya, Boomchild went on the UN's website and FOUND IT, but you say it's bullshit. OK.

You are so naive. Your post was a spam Email full of bullshit propaganda.

How can anybody take you seriously? Even FF admits when he is wrong.

How did Boomchild find it on the UN's website then?

You are an absolute complete idiot. BoomBoom wrote this, "In looking over this resolution, I think the reference above is referring to small arms that are part of what would be considered to be involved in small arms trading that would be considered illegal. I could be wrong, but take look for yourself."

He is absolutely correct. It has to do with the import and export of ILLEGAL small arms....and I would add INTERNATIONAL SALES of small arms. This has NOTHING to do with what your spam, bullshit, Republican propaganda Email said. YOU are saying it affects Constitutional rights, which it can't since UN treaties do not supercede the Constitution. Further, if you read the Snopes report, Obama stated specifically that the country would not support it if it did attempt to do so, or attempted to affect our domestic laws in any way...and there is language in the treaty specifically saying this, "reaffirms the sovereign right and responsibility of any State to regulate and control transfers of conventional arms that take place exclusively within its territory, pursuant to its own legal or constitutional systems," And, the vote this McCarthyism Email is talking about was not a vote for or against the UN treaty by an ammendment attached other crap, "However, the measure voted upon was not the treaty itself, but a non-binding test amendment expressing opposition to the ATT which was tacked onto an unrelated congressional budget resolution. The record of the U.S. Senate Roll Call Vote confirms that all the senators who voted against the amendment were Democrats or independents"

So, grow a pair and admit that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Monker]

Any idiot can see when Harry has to give up power, the gridlock will be over. Reid is sitting on over 352 Bills right now. The Grid Lock is on the Democratic Senate. At least until it reaches Obama, but hopefully, we will have enough
conservatives to break his Veto's. But once again, you prove your not just any idiot.

Any idiot who comments on stuff like this should know how the Legislative branch actually works before spreading more Republican propaganda and exaggerations.

There are other reasons why the bills have not been voted on. Saying it is all his fault is a lie taken again from Republican propaganda. But, you of course believe anything you read. If others wait for the FACTS then they are the idiots. What is obvious is the true idiot is the one who believes propaganda and doesn't seek the facts:

With Congressional approval ratings hovering around single digits, it's probably no wonder that most Americans believe Congress is not getting things done.

Now, with both the House and Senate out until early September, proposed bills are languishing in the empty halls of Congress waiting to be acted upon.

The outcry about gridlock doesn't come just from the people outside the Washington beltway. Before the August recess, Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-Kansas) held a press conference to talk about what was and wasn't getting done in Washington. Jenkins laid much of the blame at Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada). Jenkins had this to say about Reid:

"The president is fond of referring to the House as the ‘do-nothing Congress.’ But we have 352 reasons why it’s a ‘do-Nothing Senate.’ "Three-hundred-fifty-two are sitting on Harry Reid’s desk, awaiting action. Ninety-eight percent of them passed with bipartisan support -- Republicans and Democrats working together to pass legislation. Fifty percent of the bills passed unanimously, with no opposition. Seventy percent of the bills passed with two-thirds support in the House. And over 55 bills were introduced by Democrats. "Three-hundred-fifty-two bills. Why won’t Harry Reid act? These are good bills; bills that put the American people back to work, put more money in hardworking Americans pockets, help with education and skills training. We call upon Harry Reid to get to work before he adjourns in August to pass some of these bills. The American people deserve better."

PolitiFact took a look at the statements that there are 352 bills sitting on Harry Reid's desk and that 55 of them were introduced by Democrats. PolitiFact reporter Linda Qiu says Jenkins' claim rates HALF TRUE. Qiu says the issue is a bit more complex than how Rep. Jenkins has made it out to be.

"We took a look at the numbers, and while there were 342 bills that were passed in the House and sent to the Senate, the big thing to remember is that some of these bills are actually in Senate committees, and the committee chair ultimately can decide whether or not to let a bill pass to the next level," Qiu said. "The other complicating part of this is that the Senate may have their own version of the same legislation, so the House bill might just be sitting there while the Senate proceeds on their own."

What about the claim that 55 of the bills that came out of the House and moved on to the Senate were introduced by Democrats? Qiu says that the number is accurate, but that the 55 bills represent only about 16 percent of the bills passed by the House. "If you look at the bills, the substance of the legislation in these bills is pretty mundane," Qiu said. "We're talking about things like names for federal buildings, minor tweaks to legislation, and even the granting of an immigration visa to an individual."

[Boomchild]

In case anyone missed NYC's Muslim Day Parade, here's an article on it. Makes me wonder if I am living in America still.

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conser ... 07412.html

[JBlake]

In case anyone missed NYC's Muslim Day Parade, here's an article on it. Makes me wonder if I am living in America still.

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conser ... 07412.html

America is going through a cultural shift and it's just a question of time to when it's going to be referred to as the country "formerly" known as America. Just a question of time.

[Boomchild]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/big-minnesota-insurer-leaves-obamacare-185046511.html

Another success story for Obamacare, oh wait....

[JBlake]

Today's DemLibbies prove one thing, that dodgeball should be reinstated back into the public school system.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The polls. Bush had 124 news stations reporting his numbers. Obama,9.

http://twitchy.com/2014/09/17/that-awkw ... mpaign=IAC

I thought you didn't like Bush? Sure seems like you are doing a bang-up job of defending his maiden honor on here every other post. Bush destroyed the economy and destabilized the Middle East. Shit president.

[steveo777]

The polls. Bush had 124 news stations reporting his numbers. Obama,9.

http://twitchy.com/2014/09/17/that-awkw ... mpaign=IAC

I thought you didn't like Bush? Sure seems like you are doing a bang-up job of defending his maiden honor on here every other post. Bush destroyed the economy and destabilized the Middle East. Shit president.

Obama almost doubled the national debt and re-destabilized the Middle East. Shit President.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Obama almost doubled the national debt...

If you or your GOP brethren truly cared about debt, you would be proposing ways to raise revenue and pay it down. Debt is money we owe ourselves and with interest rates low, it is NOT an issue. Just another cheap meaningless fear tactic. The same was said about FDR's spending during the Great Depression and even Clinton's tax hikes. Pretty amazing how the GOP base is psychologically trained to race their motorized scooters to the nearest town hall and raise hell any time the word, "Debt!" is uttered. Ivan Pavlov would be proud.

...and re-destabilized the Middle East. Shit President.

Another George W. Bush defender, huh? As much as you try to deny it, you guys secretly love him. It's so obvious.

[steveo777]

Obama almost doubled the national debt...

If you or your GOP brethren truly cared about debt, you would be proposing ways to raise revenue and pay it down. Debt is money we owe ourselves and with interest rates low, it is NOT an issue. Just another cheap meaningless fear tactic. The same was said about FDR's spending during the Great Depression and even Clinton's tax hikes. Pretty amazing how the GOP base is psychologically trained to race their motorized scooters to the nearest town hall and raise hell any time the word, "Debt!" is uttered. Ivan Pavlov would be proud.

...and re-destabilized the Middle East. Shit President.

Another George W. Bush defender, huh? As much as you try to deny it, you guys secretly love him. It's so obvious.

Nope.....both shit presidents. A robust economy will create jobs and increase revenue without, {{{gasp}}}, raising taxes. This president has shot gun focus and doesn't give a shit about the really important stuff that he should be laser focused on.

[The_Noble_Cause]

A robust economy will create jobs and increase revenue without, {{{gasp}}}, raising taxes.

Maybe in fantasyland. Wartime expenditures need to be offset by something besides $9 dollar an hour jobs flipping burgers.

[The_Noble_Cause]

So what? Just pointing out the ONE SIDEDNESS of the Press working their propaganda to keep YOUR SIDE in power. Idiot!

I thought Fox was the biggest and most powerful name in news? So just what are you whining about again??

[The_Noble_Cause]

You were wrong and doing a poor job of spinning your way out of it. Maybe you just enjoy being a 24 hour a day asshole.

Wrong about what? Fox being the most serious name in news? Good point. The anchors on FOX have about as much credibility as the Spanish Soap Opera Channel or worse, Fred Thompson peddling reverse mortgage scams on late nite infomercials. I think you're just mad because you can't go a single post without Monker rubbing your face in your rank hypocrisy and transparent lies like a whimpering dog in his own mess. Watching you get your lying ass kicked back and forth by your mental superiors is like watching the saddest game of one-sided Pong ever!

Megan Kelly answers TNC's hero, Bill Ayers.

No hero of mine…tho it’s interesting how the GOP makes heroes out of mass bombers on a genocidal scale. Maybe if Ayers went overseas and blew up a few innocent ashrams and hospitals, you would have a framed, jizz-streaked photo of him…just like the autographed one of Dick Cheney on your nightstand next to your rolled up tube of extra strength Anal-eze.

[Boomchild]

Looks like people are not finding the "Hope and Change" they were hoping for.

"Exclusive: Angry with Washington, 1 in 4 Americans open to secession"

"The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll."

http://news.msn.com/us/exclusive-angry- ... ?gt1=51501

[steveo777]

Looks like people are not finding the "Hope and Change" they were hoping for.

"Exclusive: Angry with Washington, 1 in 4 Americans open to secession"

"The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll."

http://news.msn.com/us/exclusive-angry- ... ?gt1=51501

The leftists, marxist, socialists will never admit they have buyer's remorse. It's just not in their DNA. I fail to see how anyone with a clear conscience can call this presidency a success. Better than Bush? Actually no, from a competence standpoint. Obama will not follow the advise of his top military brass, even though he has no hands on experience. That is extremely arrogant and dangerous. He is making decisions for purely political reasons, like trying to protect elections, country be damned.

[steveo777]

A robust economy will create jobs and increase revenue without, {{{gasp}}}, raising taxes.

Maybe in fantasyland. Wartime expenditures need to be offset by something besides $9 dollar an hour jobs flipping burgers.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Better than Bush?

Yea, by a long shot. For Obamacare alone he has earned himself a place in the history books. What did Bush do again? Oh right. Let 9-11 happen, invaded Iraq on a fraudulent basis, legalized torture, lied about wiretapping, attempted to privatize social security and give it to the same too-big-to-fail banks that caused the housing crisis. Brilliant!

Obama will not follow the advise of his top military brass, even though he has no hands on experience. That is extremely arrogant and dangerous.

If foreign policy was left completely in the hands of the military, the planet would have been a scorched glowing wasteland. Vietnam is a perfect example of bad policy being dictated by military.

[steveo777]

Better than Bush?

Yea, by a long shot. For Obamacare alone he has earned himself a place in the history books. What did Bush do again? Oh right. Let 9-11 happen, invaded Iraq on a fraudulent basis, legalized torture, lied about wiretapping, attempted to privatize social security and give it to the same too-big-to-fail banks that caused the housing crisis. Brilliant!

Obama will not follow the advise of his top military brass, even though he has no hands on experience. That is extremely arrogant and dangerous.

If foreign policy was left completely in the hands of the military, the planet would have been a scorched glowing wasteland. Vietnam is a perfect example of bad policy being dictated by military.

You are really fucked up. That is nothing to be proud of. It caused more damage than good and his place in the history books will talk of his single accomplishment, being the first black president, not much else, so long as he doesn't continue to fundamentally transform America much more.

[Boomchild]

The leftists, marxist, socialists will never admit they have buyer's remorse. It's just not in their DNA. I fail to see how anyone with a clear conscience can call this presidency a success. Better than Bush? Actually no, from a competence standpoint. Obama will not follow the advise of his top military brass, even though he has no hands on experience. That is extremely arrogant and dangerous. He is making decisions for purely political reasons, like trying to protect elections, country be damned.

I think the poll shows that some are aware the problem is just not B.O. and his administration. That it is the entire system that has gotten fucked up. While I think secession is "pie in the sky" thinking it certainly shows just how people have no confidence in our federal government. A state separating from the union will never happen. I don't think there is one state in the country that could survive on it's own. All the states rely on funds from the federal government in order to stay afloat.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You are really fucked up. That is nothing to be proud of. It caused more damage than good...

Yeah, yeah, and the same was said of basic meat inspection, child labor laws, women's suffrage, civil rights, social security, medicare, and beyond. In every instance, the world did NOT end and calamity howlers like you were completely wrong.

[steveo777]

You are really fucked up. That is nothing to be proud of. It caused more damage than good...

Yeah, yeah, and the same was said of basic meat inspection, child labor laws, women's suffrage, civil rights, social security, medicare, and beyond. In every instance, the world did NOT end and calamity howlers like you were completely wrong.

Did you even click the picture I posted above so you could see the whole thing? Probably not, because you are such a freakin' scaredy cat.

[The_Noble_Cause]

First five words sum him up perfectly. You could add spin master and liar also.

Being politically active is GREAT. It is the essential life blood of ANY democracy. However, it is not enough to go to the voting booths and make decisions based solely on something you read in a paranoid email forwarded by someone's grandma. Karma has a way of putting people exactly in their place. You said earlier that you work in a tool shop (TRANSLATION: cashier at home depot). Not really surprised. Keep voting Republican and praying for the day you get promoted to the department head of bathroom sink handles and rubber door stops. Does your supervisor know you are spending company time making internet posts defending the legacy of George W. Bush? From Steve0 saying that government policy should be directed by military commanders (psst...our gov't is civilian not military) to you complaining about Obama kicking the can on taking out despots (pssst...that is a good thing. Ever hear of the Cuban Missile Crisis?), it is clear you don't have a fucking clue. Y'know, Karma can be a real bitch sometimes. But she can also be a just & all-knowing bitch. And from everything I've read, you are EXACTLY where you deserve to be in life. Now, go press a button to signal that your register is open. Oh and remember, smile, and be sure to ask the customer if they want to open a Home Depot credit card. And for the last time, stop slouching! Customers know you're gay, but do you really need to have the posture of a guy who gets ass fucked in the parking lot during his fifteen minute smoke break?

[slucero]

...first ya gotta learn that the U.S. isn't a "democracy"....

it's a republic... (this is what happens when Civics isn't taught in schools... and colleges only teach liberal/progressive revisionist history)

..it's kinda important....


...and before ya say it isn't, or that it doesn't matter... ... try reciting the Pledge of Allegiance... or reading the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution... ya know the "law of the land"... (which the Declaration is also, since it was codified into the U.S. Code)...


not one mention of "democracy" there... not one.

[The_Noble_Cause]

...first ya gotta learn that the U.S. isn't a "democracy"....

You sound like an advanced AP English reject who scolds other kids on the playground for saying “I could have cared less” instead of the proper “I couldn't” (before getting socked in your four-eyed, asthmatic, face by a dodgeball thrown by somebody who didn't know polysyllabic pronouns, but at least got cheerleader pussy). As a point of fact, with the exception of Switzerland, there are NO pure forms of democracy. US states which hold referendums/ballot initiatives do engage in a limited form of democracy. Democracy has almost always been a byword for any system of elective representative government in which the people vote, instead of a monarchy. So what distinction are you trying to make, besides being the haughtiest, hair-splitting, dickhead in the room? Do you picket outside of Dennys and hold menu burning protests because a “grilled cheese sandwich” is actually fried? Boy, do you sound retarded.

(this is what happens when Civics isn't taught in schools... and colleges only teach liberal/progressive revisionist history)

That’s funny. I guess these guys were all brainwashed liberals too, huh?

“Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.” – Ronald Reagan

“Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.” – Ronald Reagan

“Democracy is not a fragile flower. Still it needs cultivating. If the rest of this century is to witness the gradual growth of freedom and democratic ideals, we must take actions to assist the campaign for democracy.” - Ronald Reagan

“Five days from now, the world will witness the vitality of American democracy. In a tradition dating back to our founding, the presidency will pass to a successor chosen by you, the American people." -George W. Bush

“Peaceful nations must stand for the advance of democracy. No other system of government has done more to protect minorities, to secure the rights of labor, to raise the status of women, or to channel human energy to the pursuits of peace.” – George W. Bush

...ya know the "law of the land"... (which the Declaration is also, since it was codified into the U.S. Code)... not one mention of "democracy" there... not one.

Why, thank you for the enlightening peewee history lesson, Professor “Slucero.” However, I would just as soon take parenting lessons from Adrian Peterson than seek a tutorial in democracy from a filthy Republican neocon dirtbag like you. You may also be surprised to learn, we are NOT a military junta. And yet, surprise surprise, when Steveo77 recommends that policy be set by military leaders, you remain as silent as a mime in a monastery. In short: you're a partisan hack. Get lost.

[steveo777]

...first ya gotta learn that the U.S. isn't a "democracy"....

You sound like an advanced AP English reject who scolds other kids on the playground for saying “I could have cared less” instead of the proper “I couldn't” (before getting socked in your four-eyed, asthmatic, face by a dodgeball thrown by somebody who didn't know polysyllabic pronouns, but at least got cheerleader pussy). As a point of fact, with the exception of Switzerland, there are NO pure forms of democracy. US states which hold referendums/ballot initiatives do engage in a limited form of democracy. Democracy has almost always been a byword for any system of elective representative government in which the people vote, instead of a monarchy. So what distinction are you trying to make, besides being the haughtiest, hair-splitting, dickhead in the room? Do you picket outside of Dennys and hold menu burning protests because a “grilled cheese sandwich” is actually fried? Boy, do you sound retarded.

(this is what happens when Civics isn't taught in schools... and colleges only teach liberal/progressive revisionist history)

That’s funny. I guess these guys were all brainwashed liberals too, huh?

“Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.” – Ronald Reagan

“Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man.” – Ronald Reagan

“Democracy is not a fragile flower. Still it needs cultivating. If the rest of this century is to witness the gradual growth of freedom and democratic ideals, we must take actions to assist the campaign for democracy.” - Ronald Reagan

“Five days from now, the world will witness the vitality of American democracy. In a tradition dating back to our founding, the presidency will pass to a successor chosen by you, the American people." -George W. Bush

“Peaceful nations must stand for the advance of democracy. No other system of government has done more to protect minorities, to secure the rights of labor, to raise the status of women, or to channel human energy to the pursuits of peace.” – George W. Bush

...ya know the "law of the land"... (which the Declaration is also, since it was codified into the U.S. Code)... not one mention of "democracy" there... not one.

Why, thank you for the enlightening peewee history lesson, Professor “Slucero.” However, I would just as soon take parenting lessons from Adrian Peterson than seek a tutorial in democracy from a filthy Republican neocon dirtbag like you. You may also be surprised to learn, we are NOT a military junta. And yet, surprise surprise, when Steveo77 recommends that policy be set by military leaders, you remain as silent as a mime in a monastery. In short: you're a partisan hack. Get lost.

You missed all fucking points. Slucero tried to tell you that the USA is not a democracy, but a constitutional republic. What is it about Republic that you don't understand? Yes we have a democratic way of governing, but that does not define what this country is. Secondly, I never said that "policy" be set by military leaders, only that the president should follow the advice of the top military brass, who have lived in the trenches. Oh, but you feel a community organizer knows best, when it comes to military affairs and foreign policy. You really need to go educate yourself, as you are such a clueless partisan hack! That said, Robert Fleischman's pic above, that you would not click, is flipping you a big fucking bird! Deal with it! And, now that we got all that shit out of the way, even though I think Obama has a huge rash on his dick, from you sucking on it 24/7, you still have some redeeming value when it comes to music. Now fuck off you liberal beatnik!

[Boomchild]

I wonder if the B.O. administration is going bend more on Iran's nuke program just to get their so called "help" in fighting ISIS?

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Iran is ready to work with the United States and its allies to stop Islamic State militants, but would like to see more flexibility on Iran's uranium enrichment program, senior Iranian officials told Reuters.

http://news.msn.com/world/exclusive-ira ... ar-program

[slucero]

LMAO... TNC sure gets riled when he gets owned.. and I think I've figured out why... (FF will get a kick outta this)

TNC is really Paul Krugman... (uncanny resemblance)




So there ya have it... TNC.. a sad little white man with a Napoleon complex who can't get over his 5' 5" height (with lifts), who continually loses any of his pro-Keynesian arguments, only to resort to name calling and race baiting in final fits of desperation.

[Monker]

Secondly, I never said that "policy" be set by military leaders, only that the president should follow the advice of the top military brass, who have lived in the trenches.

I completely disagree with this. The very fact that such military leaders have been entrenched in their ideology and methods of problem resolution is why their opinions should be taken with a huge amount of skepticism.

The Bay of PIgs invasion was a plan developed by such military advisers, under the sponsorship of a military General and President, Eisenhower. Because this plan was so well thought of, Kennedy executed it...and it was a HUGE failure.

The Cuban missile crisis had the military advising Kennedy to bomb the missiles to take them out. Instead, he took the advice of others outside of the military to enact the blockade.

If Kennedy had not learned his lesson from the Bay of Pigs and instead done as you are demanding Obama do, we may have fought WWIII.

I would MUCH rather have Obama acting like the experience JFK then the version that authorized the Bay of Pigs. In fact, I think it is a huge compliment to say he doesn't listen to his military advisers and enact their every whim. Such stupidity is what got us into situations like Iraq in the first place.

[steveo777]

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