President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[JBlake]

Also interesting in the news is the ISIS targeting individuals via social media. The ISIS is doing this in part by way of creating "flash mob" activities. Interesting because this is exactly what the homosexuals and their sympathizers did in places like San Francisco, when they posted in newspapers the names, addresses, and even work places of those who voted against homosexual marriage. Again, terrorists and demlibbies, only difference is one is international while the other is domestic.

[Boomchild]

WHO: Ebola spread 'unavoidable' in Europe due to extensive travel

"The spread of Ebola in Europe is "unavoidable", the World Health Organization said shortly after the contraction of four new cases was announced in Spain."

"On Monday scientists predicted that there was a 75 percent chance that Ebola would reach France by the end October and a 50 percent chance for the UK."

http://rt.com/news/193900-ebola-spread-inevitable-wto/

[JBlake]

Ebola.

[Boomchild]

UN senior leaders outline needs for global Ebola response

“WHO does not recommend any travel or trade restrictions be applied except in cases where individuals have been confirmed or are suspected of being infected with Ebola virus disease or where individuals have had contact with cases of Ebola.”

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/rel ... -needs/en/

[JBlake]

All it needs to do is mutate just in the right way(s) and it could become more/easily contagious. And to think what's his face (Obama) is attempting to send US Military troops over to deal with it. That's the last group you want going over into ebola infested areas. It would spread quickly through the military since they usually have high numbers in tight living quarters. If the military personnel are sick, the entire country is weak. Yeah, lets send over US Military personnel to deal with something not military related. I say we drop off this entire administration in ebola infested areas and let them deal with it. Moron Obama, Babbling Biden, Clueless Kerry, Goon Lois Lerner, Holder, etc. etc. etc. the entire defective lot.

[slucero]

You didn't even read your own quote. He is not making any allusions in that quote. The FACT is he EXPLICITLY said that an outbreak in Europe or the US would be quickly contained...which is what I have been saying. He then mentioned India because they do not wear gloves when treating patients. What he is saying, and alluding to, is countries not using standard sanitation practices are at risk...which is exactly what I have been saying.

What you guys who are all in some sorta fearful apocalypse mode refuse to understand is simple sanitation and isolation stops this virus in its tracks. Even if the patient is cared for at home. Clean needles, washing hands, wearing gloves and a mask, disposing of corpses properly...that is how the virus stops spreading.

He also said traveling while the virus is in its incubation period...which mean when the patient is NOT CONTAGIOUS...which further throws FF's crazy theories out the window.

I'll take Websters definition of allusion over yours....

And your point that "simple sanitation and isolation stops this virus in its tracks", while correct, only applies to hospitals and medical facilities, which unfortunately aren't the entry points for those potentially infected traveling to the U.S.. Ebola doesn't get "stopped" at the hospitals because they operate in a more sanitary way.. infected people go to hospitals for treatment.. where they die.. It gets stopped at the point of entry, or better yet at the point of departure.. because there are too many variables between departure and point of entry (sneezing/coughing on people and/or into A/C systems on planes, walking through airports doing the same, having sex, etc..) to risk further infections.

Apparently CDC Director Tom Frieden doesn't agree with you... because he just announced new travel restrictions to restrict travel of all potentially infected persons to the U.S.

Restricting travel...which is my point.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Yeah, lets send over US Military personnel to deal with something not military related.

Let me get this straight - you don't think guarding the lives of countless international health workers, including US military doctors, is military-related? These people are being dropped in the middle of a raging Third World epidemic. Perhaps you would prefer if Liberian or Sierra Leone pirates kidnapped the unarmed workers and held them for ransom, or worse? Idiot.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Who is it that has the Einstein quote about insanity being repeating the same thing and hoping for a different result?

..that would be me... ( I know the irony here is killin' ya)

Actually, the real irony stems from the fact that Einstein was an unapologetic socialist with ties to the communist party, who made Obama look like Ronald Reagan. It is not a stretch to say that he would object to your use of his quote, as well as your Neanderthal anti-government views.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The ISIS is doing this in part by way of creating "flash mob" activities. Interesting because this is exactly what the homosexuals and their sympathizers did in places like San Francisco, when they posted in newspapers the names, addresses, and even work places of those who voted against homosexual marriage. Again, terrorists and demlibbies, only difference is one is international while the other is domestic.

Wow, this hateful post reads like it was taken straight from an ISIS recruitment brochure. Not only that, but it doesn't even make ANY sense. Votes by private citizens are private. Votes by public officials/legislators are PUBLIC. So whatever was posted in the newspaper by gays was already public record. Maybe you should go join ISIS. Pretty sure you're quite handy with a scimitar, after spending countless hours honing your skills in imaginary lightsaber to lightsaber combat. And facing East five times a day will give you an excuse to spend even more time in your favorite position. Good thing those Dr. Scholls orthopedic knee pads came with a 90 day warranty, eh?

[Boomchild]

Obama executive order allows detention of Americans with respiratory diseases

"On Thursday, Barack Obama signed an executive order that allows for the apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals with certain severe acute respiratory diseases, not including influenza. The executive order modifies one signed in 2003 by George Bush that allowed for the detention and quarantine of those with SARS."

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-e ... y-diseases

[JBlake]

The moron who brought a case of ebola into America (Texas) has died. Great News!

[Boomchild]

EBOLA OUTBREAK 2014

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Frisco, Texas, patient reportedly showing symptoms of Ebola claims to have had contact with Thomas Eric Duncan - @NBCDFW

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BREAKING: 2ND person rushed to hospital with signs of Ebola (had contact with Duncan)
Fox News Breaking Alert ^ |

08 OCT 14

2nd person rushed to hospital showing signs of ebola. 2nd person had contact with Duncan.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

This person must have been french kissing Duncan.

[JBlake]

Great! Everyone who was in the friggin plane with this moron will come down with it. Where's Mr. Roundup? We need some good laughs!

[JBlake]

EBOLA OUTBREAK 2014

15m

Frisco, Texas, patient reportedly showing symptoms of Ebola claims to have had contact with Thomas Eric Duncan - @NBCDFW

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BREAKING: 2ND person rushed to hospital with signs of Ebola (had contact with Duncan)
Fox News Breaking Alert ^ |

08 OCT 14

2nd person rushed to hospital showing signs of ebola. 2nd person had contact with Duncan.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

This person must have been french kissing Duncan.

My dog wouldn't even French kiss Duncan. Why would a human?

[verslibre]

Great! Everyone who was in the friggin plane with this moron will come down with it. Where's Mr. Roundup? We need some good laughs!

Hey, I wonder if Roundup can kill Ebola?

Febreze.

[JBlake]

Great! Everyone who was in the friggin plane with this moron will come down with it. Where's Mr. Roundup? We need some good laughs!

Hey, I wonder if Roundup can kill Ebola?

Maybe. It's in his genes, hell, Duncan was probably already in his jeans too.

[Boomchild]

Lauren Zakalik, WFAA

Sgt. Michael Monning is the deputy being checked for ebola symptoms out of abundance of caution

MORE: We are told he was reporting stomach issues. He was one of the deputies who entered Duncan’s apartment unprotected

https://twitter.com/wfaalauren/status/5 ... 6282310656

So I guess at this point they haven't confirmed he's been infected. I don't think the issue is that the hospitals can't contain and treat Ebola victims, it's the mishaps and mistakes made prior to admission to a hospital that is the dangerous part of this situation.

[slucero]

Actually, the real irony stems from the fact that Einstein was an unapologetic socialist with ties to the communist party, who made Obama look like Ronald Reagan. It is not a stretch to say that he would object to your use of his quote, as well as your Neanderthal anti-government views.

• I don't recall Einstein ever running for office..
• I recognize and appreciate Einsteins intellectual prowess separate from his political leanings (unlike you)

Since I can do that.. and apparently you can't.... that would make you more the neanderthal...


And really, I wasn't posting to you, I was simply answering Monkers question...

You really can't engage in any convo without personally attacking someone can you. It's fairly obvious that you are a very angry small little man.. in fact.. there is only one word to describe what you are:

a c-u-n-t.

I don't care if Drew boots me for saying that.

You have no ability to engage in debate to change minds, and are emblematic of what ails Washington.. the unwillingness to even discuss and/or compromise. At least with Monker I can have a dialogue, and he has given me some good reading material on global warming... no such possibility with you. All you are about is hate.

You really are a rotten version of a human being.

[steveo777]

Actually, the real irony stems from the fact that Einstein was an unapologetic socialist with ties to the communist party, who made Obama look like Ronald Reagan. It is not a stretch to say that he would object to your use of his quote, as well as your Neanderthal anti-government views.

• I don't recall Einstein ever running for office..
• I recognize and appreciate Einsteins intellectual prowess separate from his political leanings (unlike you)

Since I can do that.. and apparently you can't.... that would make you more the neanderthal...


And really, I wasn't posting to you, I was simply answering Monkers question...

You really can't engage in any convo without personally attacking someone can you. It's fairly obvious that you are a very angry small little man.. in fact.. there is only one word to describe what you are:

a c-u-n-t.

I don't care if Drew boots me for saying that.

You have no ability to engage in debate to change minds, and are emblematic of what ails Washington.. the unwillingness to even discuss and/or compromise. At least with Monker I can have a dialogue, and he has given me some good reading material on global warming... no such possibility with you. All you are about is hate.

You really are a rotten version of a human being.

Smacked like a red headed step child! Quoted for posterity. lol!

[Monker]

WHO: Ebola spread 'unavoidable' in Europe due to extensive travel

"The spread of Ebola in Europe is "unavoidable", the World Health Organization said shortly after the contraction of four new cases was announced in Spain."

"On Monday scientists predicted that there was a 75 percent chance that Ebola would reach France by the end October and a 50 percent chance for the UK."

http://rt.com/news/193900-ebola-spread-inevitable-wto/

WHO didn't ask Monker either huh?

I never said it would not reach Europe. I am saying the underdeveloped countries do not have the tools and ability to contain it as the developed countries do. I'm sure it will hit Europe and even more cases in the US. But, I absolutely do not believe it will infect and kill 100,000 people in either region.

[Monker]

I posted the actual studies of the previous Ebola outbreaks. They essentially said it was 'possible' that it could be spread in the air...but could not find the cases to support it. What they found, as I have repeatedly stated, is it is spread by exposure to bodily fluids or dead bodies. Get over it...those are the FACTS. People can misinterpret them and spout off all they want, but the facts do not change.

Damn, none of these experts are taking heed of Monkers advanced knowledge of Ebola. Wonder why?

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebo ... tml#page=1

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Finally, some also question the official assertion that Ebola cannot be transmitted through the air. In late 1989, virus researcher Charles L. Bailey supervised the government's response to an outbreak of Ebola among several dozen rhesus monkeys housed for research in Reston, Va., a suburb of Washington.

What Bailey learned from the episode informs his suspicion that the current strain of Ebola afflicting humans might be spread through tiny liquid droplets propelled into the air by coughing or sneezing.

Monk, read that article and tell them how wrong they are will ya? Set these dudes straight.

[Monker]

All it needs to do is mutate just in the right way(s) and it could become more/easily contagious.

And, in one of the articles posted here (by Slucero, I think), the "good doctor" stated that it was very highly unlikely that could happen.

What you do not understand is this virus is in fact, a very genetically simple organism...as stated in the previous. articles Being air born, like influenza is probably not genetically possible. Just because a warped mind can dream up a genetic mutation does not mean the genes exist to support that warped minds sick dream.

[Monker]

You still have to have some sort of personal contact with an infected person. A sneeze on a airplane won't do it unless your sitting next to the person and he sneezed on you. Since you can lie on forms, see Texas, I am for restricting air travel.

I'm surprised you guys aren't on the 272.52 point crap the market took today. Here, and worldwide.

Not only that but the person who sneezed has to have the Ebola be out of the incubation stage - because otherwise he's not contagious.

Again, what people are missing is that the evidence shows that it is the critical patients and corpses which are most contagious and are spreading the disease.

[Monker]

I'll take Websters definition of allusion over yours....

Maybe you should look up the word 'explicit'. You are trying to convince me that a doctor would explicitly say one thing and then allude to the exact opposite a couple sentences later. Don't think so.

And your point that "simple sanitation and isolation stops this virus in its tracks", while correct, only applies to hospitals and medical facilities, which unfortunately aren't the entry points for those potentially infected traveling to the U.S.. Ebola doesn't get "stopped" at the hospitals because they operate in a more sanitary way.. infected people go to hospitals for treatment.. where they die.. It gets stopped at the point of entry, or better yet at the point of departure.. because there are too many variables between departure and point of entry (sneezing/coughing on people and/or into A/C systems on planes, walking through airports doing the same, having sex, etc..) to risk further infections.

I'll put it this way...I agree that if a person is showing signs of a virus being active than they should be contained. But, at that point, they shouldn't be traveling anyway. It all becomes a bit redundant...and it should be implemented without fueling which is already being shown in this very forum...which is what the rest of your post was about.

[Monker]

Obama executive order allows detention of Americans with respiratory diseases

"On Thursday, Barack Obama signed an executive order that allows for the apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals with certain severe acute respiratory diseases, not including influenza. The executive order modifies one signed in 2003 by George Bush that allowed for the detention and quarantine of those with SARS."

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-e ... y-diseases

More bombastic fear mongering. This was actually signed back in late July. Funny how it becomes an issue NOW.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... e-diseases

EXECUTIVE ORDER

- - - - - - -

REVISED LIST OF QUARANTINABLE COMMUNICABLE DISEASES

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 264(b) of title 42, United States Code, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Amendment to Executive Order 13295. Based upon the recommendation of the Secretary of Health and Human Services, in consultation with the Acting Surgeon General, and for the purposes set forth in section 1 of Executive Order 13295 of April 4, 2003, as amended by Executive Order 13375 of April 1, 2005, section 1 of Executive Order 13295 shall be further amended by replacing subsection (b) with the following:

"(b) Severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled. This subsection does not apply to influenza."

Sec. 2. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department, agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

BARACK OBAMA

[Monker]

Great! Everyone who was in the friggin plane with this moron will come down with it. Where's Mr. Roundup? We need some good laughs!

Except you are assuming way too much.

What if NOBODY else has it and they all just have the flu, or a bad cold? And, IMO, that is much more likely.

[Boomchild]

Dallas deputy undergoes testing for Ebola

"The deputy had been ordered to go inside the unit with officials to get a quarantine order signed on October 1. No one who entered the apartment that day wore protective gear."

Dallas County Sheriff's Association President Christopher Dyer has repeatedly said that he did not believe that deputies should have been sent inside the quarantined apartment.

"This is a federal issue," he said. "The CDC should have come in and taken care of this. A local department is not equipped to deal with a virus that is potentially this deadly."

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2 ... /16922477/

So they sent people unprotected into an area that was to be quarantined. That sounds logical.

[JBlake]

HERE's a SHOCKER!

https://screen.yahoo.com/obama-blames-m ... 44601.html

Obama is America's version of Iraq's Comical Ali.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV7E_tzxdNs

[Monker]

Hillary is really going to be done before she starts between this and Benghazi heating back up.
http://news.yahoo.com/first-whitewater- ... 11087.html

Yeah, the way you and FF seem to like to post stuff that ends up making her look good, she may as well skip the election and just be appointed President.

From the article attached to your like, "There was never any evidence linking the Clintons to any of it."

[Monker]

Fears of a global Ebola outbreak spread yesterday as French officials sealed off a building with 60 people inside, an Australian nurse was tested for the disease and airplane cleaners went on strike in New York.

In France, police imposed a lock-down on a social services centre in a town near Paris after four people who arrived from Guinea this month fell ill with headaches and fever.

Officials in Cergy Pontoise, northwest of the capital, later said that the fears that the four were suffering from Ebola were a false alarm and the nearly 60 others inside were allowed to leave.

But the drastic reaction of the authorities in France, which has not reported any cases of Ebola, indicated the scale of concerns gripping officials across several continents.

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More than 8,000 people in West Africa have so far officially been diagnosed with Ebola and the fatality rate is nearly 50 per cent. But the World Health Organisation believes that the true tally of infected and dead is much higher.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... nents.html

Morons...now people are reacting out of fear and stupidity. Caution is one thing, but acting out of ignorance and fear and simple panic does not help anything....except to exercise FF's typing fingers.