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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:49 am

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You're right. The Democrats are in huge trouble, people walking out on speeches, and so on. You all can calm down and relax. When it comes down to it, you probably don't even need to vote. The Republicans have it in the bag this time.


The Demacrapers would really love that wouldn't they. They wouldn't have to dig up as many "dead" voter's if that were the case.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:53 pm

AR wrote:We need a revolution. Both political parties suck dick and anyone who blindly follows either are either fucking idiots or are blowing some politician. We already know whose cock is in Monker's mouth. :lol:


Not going to happen. Not enough people pay that much attention and a lot could care less. Mark Levin presents a way that citizens can effectively work around the politicians using the Constitution. It's called a convention to purpose amendments to the Constitution. The founders put it in there in case the government goes rogue or is no longer doing what citizens have elected them to do. It's not an easy or quick process but it's there. He goes into detail about it in his book "The Liberty Amendments".
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:58 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Fox had video of it this morning. The biggest surprise to me was the majority of people walking out were Black.


Did anyone from the press interview those that waked out? Would be interesting to hear their reason(s). I heard audio from the meeting on the radio but couldn't make out what the hecklers were saying.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:05 pm

JBlake wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Here is a Youtube, FF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6XsFlnF2tI


Those still pix don't really say anything about what went on there. From all we know, those pix of the people leaving could have been after the speech ended. Complete video footage would be more accurate. Like I said earlier, the people that went are ignorant enough to go, they sure as shit won't leave when they already did the hardest part of their day by going there in the first place.


I can tell you for sure just by hearing the audio on the radio that people were not happy and were vocally expressing it and B.O. did react to it.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:09 pm

Monker wrote:You're right. The Democrats are in huge trouble, people walking out on speeches, and so on. You all can calm down and relax. When it comes down to it, you probably don't even need to vote. The Republicans have it in the bag this time.


Even if they did, it doesn't really matter. Neither party is going to do the right things for this country. If they gain control of the Senate it's just going to ratchet up the grid lock that already exists.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:11 pm

JBlake wrote:
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You're right. The Democrats are in huge trouble, people walking out on speeches, and so on. You all can calm down and relax. When it comes down to it, you probably don't even need to vote. The Republicans have it in the bag this time.


The Demacrapers would really love that wouldn't they. They wouldn't have to dig up as many "dead" voter's if that were the case.


And you don't think Republicans play the same type of games when it comes to manipulating the voting system?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:18 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Well, for the first time ever, Obama tells the truth.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/22 ... ong-allies


“These are folks who are strong allies and supporters of me, and I tell them, I said, ‘You know what, you do what you need to do to win. I will be responsible for making sure our voters turn out.’ ”


So basically he's telling them to lie in order to get elected\re-elected. Nice to know our POTUS supports honesty and transparency.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:07 pm

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“These are folks who are strong allies and supporters of me, and I tell them, I said, ‘You know what, you do what you need to do to win. I will be responsible for making sure our voters turn out.’ ”


So basically he's telling them to lie in order to get elected\re-elected. Nice to know our POTUS supports honesty and transparency.


Interesting interpretation on your part, which involves a GREAT deal of projection. Dem candidates don't want to stump with O. Rather than take it personally, he's telling them to do what is in their best interests. It's only logical. Same reason the RNC ignored Bush in 2008 and 2012. If that wasn't clear enough from the quote, maybe you need to read the immediately preceding paragraph: "Obama went on to say that his feelings weren’t hurt by Democrats reluctant to campaign with him." Context is everything.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:11 pm

One thing nobody, at least a sane body, will ever say, is that Obama is honest. He's a fucking liar....no he's a pathological liar. On that basis he's killing his own party's prospects of reelection. The mid-terms are gone for the Democrats. He owns the results that we are about to see, as they are all his fault.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:32 pm

Boomchild wrote:Not going to happen. Not enough people pay that much attention and a lot could care less. Mark Levin presents a way that citizens can effectively work around the politicians using the Constitution. It's called a convention to purpose amendments to the Constitution. The founders put it in there in case the government goes rogue or is no longer doing what citizens have elected them to do. It's not an easy or quick process but it's there. He goes into detail about it in his book "The Liberty Amendments".


Levin is always railing about "liberal activist judges" making laws. As if the jurisprudence of state legislatures (many uninformed Tea Baggers, who listen to Levin), would be preferable? No thanks. If citizens want to propose laws they can run for office. If Levin wants to circumvent the government, he should throw his support behind the various Direct Democracy proposals that already pre-date his shitty book, like the National Initiative by Alaskan Senator Mike Gravel. The very idea of adding more amendments to the constitution in order for our republic to better follow the constitution is not a conservative idea, it's actually progressive. Then again, Levin worked under Reagan, who was not a libertarian, but an authoritarian statist. No real surprise here.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:33 pm

steveo777 wrote:The mid-terms are gone for the Democrats. He owns the results that we are about to see, as they are all his fault.


Like you give a fuck.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:37 pm

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steveo777 wrote:The mid-terms are gone for the Democrats. He owns the results that we are about to see, as they are all his fault.


Like you give a fuck.


You're right. I don't care. Carry on. It doesn't matter what happens. It's all a side show. We're gonna continue to be fucked until we put some term limits in place. The corporate backed career politicians are fucking all of us on a daily basis, both parties.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby AR » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:47 am

Boomchild wrote:
JBlake wrote:
Monker wrote:
You're right. The Democrats are in huge trouble, people walking out on speeches, and so on. You all can calm down and relax. When it comes down to it, you probably don't even need to vote. The Republicans have it in the bag this time.


The Demacrapers would really love that wouldn't they. They wouldn't have to dig up as many "dead" voter's if that were the case.


And you don't think Republicans play the same type of games when it comes to manipulating the voting system?


Maryland has the worst gerrymandered district in the country. I live in it. Fucking ridiculous. Tell me how a representative can help his constituents with this.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:13 am

Fact Finder wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/22/chris_matthews_on_dems_refusing_to_admit_they_voted_for_obama_its_like_obama_has_ebola.html



Chris Matthews reacts to Democratic Senate candidates Michelle Nunn (D-GA) and Mark Begich (D-AK), an incumbent, dodging the question if they voted for Obama.

"That's the way people walk past guys who are trying to get a buck or a quarter from somebody," Matthews said describing the candidates ignoring the question from a tracker.

"It's like Obama has Ebola," Matthews said on Monday's broadcast of Hardball on MSNBC. "I wasn't near him! I didn't touch him!"


:lol:


And another thing I find quite interesting is how all these "both republican and democraps are corrupt" jerkoffs are coming out of the woodwork now. Where were they when Bush was in office? Not one of them was saying any such BS until "Stinkus" Obama was in office.

Both sides corrupt? Lets see, while Stinkus has been in office, IRS targeting republicans, Verizon data collection, Obamascare, NSA BS, and now the voter machines with "calibration error" changing republican votes to democrap in (so far) IL. Big motherfucking surprise....NOT! Pretty fucking interesting how this calibration error was in favor of the democraps, after all the rest (as listed above) have also been in favor of democraps while Stinkus has been in office dumping all over America.

"Both republican and democraps are corrupt" = I'm a democrap but don't want to admit that the republicans are right about the democraps being nothing but a bunch of cheating, lying, douchebags so I'll just say both sides are the problem to try and save a little face.

Where the fuck were any of these morons with this statement when Bush was in office? Just bashing Bush that's all.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:48 am

During this current administration, American's are at an all time low with privacy, freedom, and choosing what they want to do with their hard earned money. It's too bad that we can't have only the people who vote Democrap liable to sign up for Stinkus'care. That would be a very nice law, Democrap voters are the only ones who are required to comply with Stinkus'care. Everyone else has the option. Watch how fast Stinkus'care would go bankrupt in a week, one month tops.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:03 am

Fact Finder wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/22/chris_matthews_on_dems_refusing_to_admit_they_voted_for_obama_its_like_obama_has_ebola.html



Chris Matthews reacts to Democratic Senate candidates Michelle Nunn (D-GA) and Mark Begich (D-AK), an incumbent, dodging the question if they voted for Obama.

"That's the way people walk past guys who are trying to get a buck or a quarter from somebody," Matthews said describing the candidates ignoring the question from a tracker.

"It's like Obama has Ebola," Matthews said on Monday's broadcast of Hardball on MSNBC. "I wasn't near him! I didn't touch him!"


:lol:


It's so nice to see that these days our elected representatives are so honest, truthful and stand behind those they agree with no matter the good or the bad. 8) :roll:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:14 am

JBlake wrote:During this current administration, American's are at an all time low with privacy, freedom, and choosing what they want to do with their hard earned money. It's too bad that we can't have only the people who vote Democrap liable to sign up for Stinkus'care. That would be a very nice law, Democrap voters are the only ones who are required to comply with Stinkus'care. Everyone else has the option. Watch how fast Stinkus'care would go bankrupt in a week, one month tops.


Speaking of Obamacare, what is truly laughable and telling is just how our elected representatives reacted when it was about to roll out. Prior to it going into effect they were telling us that it was fair and was going to provide affordable healthcare for EVERYONE in the country. However, when they found out that they too would have to accept it and pay their own premiums instead of getting the free ride for HC that they were used to, they went crying to B.O. about it. To which B.O. quickly went and had changes made so that 75% of the cost of their premiums would be paid by tax dollars. So you tell me, if it's truly "affordable for EVERYONE" then just why does the American public have to subsidize people (elected representatives) that can afford to pay their own premiums?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:47 am

Boomchild wrote:
JBlake wrote:During this current administration, American's are at an all time low with privacy, freedom, and choosing what they want to do with their hard earned money. It's too bad that we can't have only the people who vote Democrap liable to sign up for Stinkus'care. That would be a very nice law, Democrap voters are the only ones who are required to comply with Stinkus'care. Everyone else has the option. Watch how fast Stinkus'care would go bankrupt in a week, one month tops.


Speaking of Obamacare, what is truly laughable and telling is just how our elected representatives reacted when it was about to roll out. Prior to it going into effect they were telling us that it was fair and was going to provide affordable healthcare for EVERYONE in the country. However, when they found out that they too would have to accept it and pay their own premiums instead of getting the free ride for HC that they were used to, they went crying to B.O. about it. To which B.O. quickly went and had changes made so that 75% of the cost of their premiums would be paid by tax dollars. So you tell me, if it's truly "affordable for EVERYONE" then just why does the American public have to subsidize people (elected representatives) that can afford to pay their own premiums?


Yeah, and the one when Harry Reid exempted most, if not all, of his staff from having to enroll in Stinkus'care like the rest of us. This is all just par for the course for Democraps. Like Diane "Frankenstein" Feinstein is all against American's owning guns yet holds a conceal/carry permit. Just par for the course.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:14 am

JBlake wrote: Like Diane "Frankenstein" Feinstein is all against American's owning guns yet holds a conceal/carry permit. Just par for the course.


She's has no problem with those in power owning guns. She doesn't want the "average Joe American" to have one. Frankly if I was currently a politician, I too would be scared shitless that my constituents own a gun. 8)
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:36 pm

Boomchild wrote:Frankly if I was currently a politician, I too would be scared shitless that my constituents own a gun. 8)

Uh huh. And I bet you think Timothy McVeigh was a real folk hero. Like flypaper in an outhouse, this thread sure does attract the crazies. :roll:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:38 pm

JBlake wrote:Yeah, and the one when Harry Reid exempted most, if not all, of his staff from having to enroll in Stinkus'care like the rest of us. This is all just par for the course for Democraps.

Boomchild wrote:Speaking of Obamacare, what is truly laughable and telling is just how our elected representatives reacted when it was about to roll out.


Nice try, geniuses. Seems the “liberal” facts and truth wins again. Too funny, so sad. :roll:

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statemen ... mplying-h/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... congress-/
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:41 pm

JBlake wrote:And another thing I find quite interesting is how all these "both republican and democraps are corrupt" jerkoffs are coming out of the woodwork now. Where were they when Bush was in office? Not one of them was saying any such BS until "Stinkus" Obama was in office.


And just who, in particular, are you referring? Many of the candidates in the current race weren’t even around when Bush was in office.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:47 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote: Like Rush has said for years, they can't run on their record.


Rush..Beck..Levin....this thread reads like a who's who of right wing AM radio. The authoritarian conservative brain just loves being told what to think and who to hate.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:00 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
JBlake wrote:Yeah, and the one when Harry Reid exempted most, if not all, of his staff from having to enroll in Stinkus'care like the rest of us. This is all just par for the course for Democraps.

Boomchild wrote:Speaking of Obamacare, what is truly laughable and telling is just how our elected representatives reacted when it was about to roll out.


Nice try, geniuses. Seems the “liberal” facts and truth wins again. Too funny, so sad. :roll:

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statemen ... mplying-h/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... congress-/

""And so some of the candidates there — it is difficult for them to have me in the state because the Republicans will use that to try to fan Republican turnout," Obama said, according to The Hill. "The bottom line is, though, these are all folks who vote with me, they have supported my agenda in Congress".

Uh...? Your above reply has NOTHING to do with Reid or Obamacare. Like Monker keeps saying, you are a total amateur. Get the fuck out of here.
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Hey, shit for brains…this isn’t even an actual quote. They DID teach you in home school that quotations are to be used when actually quoting somebody, right? RIGHT? The only cesspool of shameless liars arguably bigger than congress is this very thread.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:21 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Nice try, geniuses. Seems the “liberal” facts and truth wins again. Too funny, so sad. :roll:

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statemen ... mplying-h/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... congress-/


Sorry but the above links only really address the issue of lawmakers opting themselves out of Obamacare. It does not address that 75% of their premiums are being paid by tax dollars.

From Forbes:

Members of Congress and their staffs were especially panicked, because it appeared that the Affordable Care Act required them to purchase coverage on the law’s new insurance exchanges, but without the generous subsidy they receive for their current coverage. Capitol Hill collectively exhaled yesterday, when it came out that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management would allow members and their staffs to keep their insurance subsidies.

According to John Bresnahan and Jake Sherman of Politico, President Obama has personally involved himself in the controversy over whether or not Congressmen and Hill staffers should retain access to their insurance subsidies. “It is extraordinarily rare, to say the least, for the president of the United States to get involved in an inside-the-Beltway flap over the payment of health care premiums,” note the Politico authors.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca ... exchanges/
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:52 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I'm sure by now we all know TNC as a liar, but here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iytMvao1f6Q



Nowhere in that clip does she say ""I don't agree with Obama, I'm a Clinton Democrat". That's a paraphrase on your part. Paraphrase all you want. Don't put it in quotes. Time to go back to school, little boy.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:58 pm

Boomchild wrote:Sorry but the above links only really address the issue of lawmakers opting themselves out of Obamacare. It does not address that 75% of their premiums are being paid by tax dollars.


In other words, like all federal employees, their benefits and salaries are paid by the US taxpayer. The point still stands, staffers and politicians are still getting plans from the Obama exchanges and are NOT exempt from Obamacare. So JBlake is totally wrong. And in your reply to him, you didn’t bother to correct him, so you are either just as ignorant or a liar. You guys don't care about facts. You just care about the Republican party, which isn't even conservative, and hasn't been for decades. At least Reagan cut marginal tax rates when they were high. Now the GOP wants to keep cutting marginal rates when they are low. If the GOP was smart, they would cut payroll taxes. How's this, tax relief for blue collar Americans, not hedge fund managers! I think that's an apolitical & post-partisan rallying cry that even FF would be proud to display next to his "I Heart Trannies" bumper sticker.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:27 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Idiot,..

Wait just a damn minute. Before we get started… you have said repeatedly that you do not read my posts. So why are you even responding? Thanks for proving you are about as trustworthy as a Dollar Tree brand paternity test.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:She certainly won't own up to having anything to do with Obama.

Maybe not, but your quote is still completely fabricated. Tell me, when are YOU going to own up to being both the Grand Marshall of the Lexington Gay Pride Parade AND the Grand Imperial Wizard of the Lexington chapter of the KKK? And before you tell me that’s a filthy lie, I want you to know that I read it in a chain email, so it has to be true. :wink:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I remember when Wolf Blitzer was having orgasims for hours when the Bush approval ratings reached a low of 38%. Yesterday I saw Obama's at 35%. Not a peep out of CNN, or anyone else.

So WHAT? If you don't like CNN change the FUCKING channel. Put on Fox or Newsmax or The Blaze or any of the numerous right wing biased TV alternatives. All you do is bitch and whine. You play the victim so much that you should hold your own daily press conference with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Anyway, I guess your in full agreement with Obama that liberals should lie about what they have voted for in order to keep liberals in power. No shock here.

If I understand your broken hillbilly pigeon English correctly, you are asking if I agree with Obama that politicians should do what they have to do to win their races? Yup. That’s politics. Sniveling crybaby pussies like you need not apply. And as a Republican, you should be all too familiar with Willie Horton/ Swift boat/ scorched earth tactics. You can thank Karl Rove for showing the Democratic Party how to grow a pair and win ruthlessly!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:11 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:In other words, like all federal employees, their benefits and salaries are paid by the US taxpayer. The point still stands, staffers and politicians are still getting plans from the Obama exchanges and are NOT exempt from Obamacare. So JBlake is totally wrong. And in your reply to him, you didn’t bother to correct him, so you are either just as ignorant or a liar. You guys don't care about facts. You just care about the Republican party, which isn't even conservative, and hasn't been for decades. At least Reagan cut marginal tax rates when they were high. Now the GOP wants to keep cutting marginal rates when they are low. If the GOP was smart, they would cut payroll taxes. How's this, tax relief for blue collar Americans, not hedge fund managers! I think that's an apolitical & post-partisan rallying cry that even FF would be proud to display next to his "I Heart Trannies" bumper sticker.


The point is that these legislators are still getting a 75% subsidy for their healthcare premiums. The fact they are getting it through Obamacare is moot. Unlike the average citizen who is in the same earning bracket. The average salary of those in Congress and the Senate is $174,000\yr. In addition, quite a few of them are millionaires. Based on their income status they do not need a subsidy of 75%. The should obtain their coverage through the exchanges like everybody else. Meaning let their income determine if they qualify for a subsidy. There should not be a different standard applied just because they chose to take a job in the public sector. One would think that the progressive liberals would be against such a thing. Especially, since they are so outraged that the "rich" are not paying their fare share. A lot of our federal legislators fall into this "rich" category. So in other words, theirs those "rich" people sucking up tax dollars that could be going to the people that really do need a break.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:38 pm

Boomchild wrote:The fact they are getting it through Obamacare is moot.


Not really. JBlake's entire point was that Harry Reid had exempted his staffers from "having to enroll in Stinkus'care like the rest of us." That is a lie and you played right along with it. So, as I said, you are either misinformed or a deliberate liar. Either way, your opinion is worth about as much as a wheelbarrow full of Zimbabwean dollars.

Boomchild wrote:Especially, since they are so outraged that the "rich" are not paying their fare share. A lot of our federal legislators fall into this "rich" category. So in other words, theirs those "rich" people sucking up tax dollars that could be going to the people that really do need a break.


Like you truly give a fuck. If left up to people like you, our Government would be run like a corporation (translation - outsourced, hollowed out, and run by Third World slaves making pennies on the dollar). The true outrage is that the private sector no longer offers generous benefits to workers like the public sector does. Don't take that out on the public sector.
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