President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[gr8dane]

Do they make a t-shirt for this caption?

Was Hilary president?

[slucero]

Was Hilary president?

Don't think that's the point..

[Boomchild]

:D

RUSH: Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, have you heard the news, folks? Have you heard the news? Some guy who has only been a senator for a short time, some guy without any real executive experience, some guy whose biggest qualification is he went to Harvard Law School, some guy with a foreign name and mixed ethnic background, some guy who has questions about his birth certificate, have you heard this guy's running for president? Isn't that crazy? And the Democrats are telling us this guy is not qualified, that he's dumb, that he's stupid, that he's incendiary, and that he doesn't have it right on global warming.

I'm talking about Ted Cruz. Did you ever stop and look at Ted Cruz that way? Some guy that's only been a senator for a short time, some guy with not any real executive experience, biggest qualification, went to Harvard Law School, foreign name, mixed ethnic background, questions about his birth certificate. Yeah, I saw it on CNN today. He may not be qualified. He might have been born in Canada. It is uncanny. Everything about Barack Obama that they said qualified him they are saying disqualifies Ted Cruz.

So I'm watching this speech today and it is flat-out amazing. And I'm watching, as important to me, the Drive-By reaction afterwards. We've got the sound bites here. Just stand by. On CNN they went through the litany of things that I just rattled off as, why, he hasn't done anything. Why, he may have a strange birth certificate. And they were dead serious, that he doesn't have enough experience, everything I just read to you. But they were amazed, they were amazed that he did that whole speech without a prompter. They couldn't believe it.

You might think that's not that big a deal. I'm not talking about the speech without a prompter. I'm saying the reaction to it. The Drive-By reaction to that speech without a prompter, they could not help but be dazzled, and they were. They were dazzled. They were impressed. They were so dazzled they were worried the guy is superhuman. There's something not real about somebody who can do all of that without a prompter. So dependent on the teleprompter has become the inside-the-Beltway political culture that somebody who doesn't need one is looked at with suspicion.

I kid you not on this. They were admittedly dazzled by it, but you could also sense that they were very worried about it, and it wasn't normal. It's all part of the ingredients they chalk up to Ted Cruz. "It's just not normal, not what politicians do. That he knows all of that without stuttering, and without losing his place?" It was really, to me, probably a nonevent or no big deal to many people, but their reaction to that, to me, spoke volumes. (interruption) Well, I know, here's my point about this. Don't make this about me, Snerdley. You know, God bless you, I love you, but every time I talk about something on this program, Snerdley says, "You did it! You did it! You do it! You do it! What's the big deal?"

Yes, I used to do it, and I still do when I do it, hour and a half, two hours without a prompter, I understand that, but nobody else does that. But the point is, the people who do do it and can, like Cruz, you don't need a prompter because it's in your heart. You don't need notes because it's in your heart. Therefore, what we had out of Ted Cruz is what he really believes, it's what's really in his heart. He didn't need notes. He didn't need a teleprompter. He didn't need anybody speaking to him in his ear.

This is the guy that told everyone he wouldn't approve ANY deal on immigration until our boarders were secured FIRST and then flip flopped. So, I wouldn't believe anything he "promises" to do if he is elected. Not that he has any real chance of winning.

[Boomchild]

This is the guy that told everyone he wouldn't approve ANY deal on immigration until our boarders were secured FIRST and then flip flopped. So, I wouldn't believe anything he "promises" to do if he is elected. Not that he has any real chance of winning.

The Media is already pounding Cruz pretty good. He'll get Palined before he can get started. If he can overcome the American Pravda treatment, he'll get my vote. I want that kind of strong leader. The opposite of what we have now.

First, I could be wrong in my last statement about Cruz. It may have been Rubio that flip flopped on his immigration position. I may have confused the two. To me it doesn't matter who wins the next election since it's my firm belief that both parties are on the same page. The opposition we see is merely a show put on for the public. Our system of government is so corrupt as a whole that nothing is done for the good of the people. If this country is to be saved from it's downfall, it certainly is not going to come from the politicians.

[Monker]

Ted Cruz is unelectable. Even some Republicans said he is a nut. He has about as much of chance as Santorum.

Again, republicans either choose a Romney that disappoints their base...or a nut like Cruz that a faction of the base likes but nobody else in the country does.

Good luck with that.

[AR]

Ted Cruz is unelectable. Even some Republicans said he is a nut. He has about as much of chance as Santorum.

Again, republicans either choose a Romney that disappoints their base...or a nut like Cruz that a faction of the base likes but nobody else in the country does.

Good luck with that.

Don't be so sure.

Maryland just elected a Republican governor.

[Boomchild]

Ho Lee Fuk! BOMBFUCKINGSHELL!!!

“After seeking and receiving a two week extension from the Committee, Secretary Clinton failed to provide a single new document to the subpoena issued by the Committee and refused to provide her private server to the Inspector General for the State Department or any other independent arbiter for analysis.

“We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server. While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.

“Not only was the Secretary the sole arbiter of what was a public record, she also summarily decided to delete all emails from her server ensuring no one could check behind her analysis in the public interest.”

“In light of the Secretary’s unprecedented email arrangement with herself and her decision nearly two years after she left office to permanently delete all emails and because the equities at stake involve not only those of the Select Committee and Congress more broadly, but also those of the American people and their right to the full record of her tenure as secretary of State, we will work with the leadership of the House of Representatives as the Committee considers next steps. But it is clear Congress will need to speak with the former Secretary about her email arrangement and the decision to permanently delete those emails.”

In other words, this was planned all the long to hide information that would have been subject to the freedom of information act. So much for B.O. statements about being transparent. Of course this will be down played as making a big deal over nothing by Clinton and B.O. supporters.

[slucero]

..just as with the IRS Lois Lerner emails...

They're always backed up..

[Boomchild]

..just as with the IRS Lois Lerner emails...

They're always backed up..

In this case I wouldn't be so sure. It seems she did not inform those responsible for maintaining this kind of data at the State Department that she was even using her private email for governmental communications. That is if one believes it. In my opinion this was all deliberate to hide things.

[Boomchild]

Bitch needs some jail time for this. This should not be acceptable to ANY American voter.

Like that's ever going to happen.

[Boomchild]

18 USC Section 2071 b

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.


Somebody charge this harridan now!

Again, I don't think anything is going to happen to her with respect to the emails. Just look how the investment bankers crashed the financial system and not a single one of them was imprisoned for it. It's my opinion that the administration knew she was doing and it was done to conceal information from the public. You can't expect a corrupt system to enforce the law. Except maybe when it helps perpetuate the corruption.

[Boomchild]

The Feds have to want to charge her. I don't see that happenning. But if Republicans keep the pressure on, what most sane people can see will soon have to be seen by everyone. again, Hillary is done.

And what has the Attorney General said about this situation? To the best of my knowledge, nothing. So there is the answer as far as the feds are concerned. As far as Republicans, good luck with that. All they do is rattle their sabers and huff and puff. The end result is they back down or walk away. They said they would not approve funding homeland security if it meant that it would fund B.O.'s executive order on immigration. They caved. What happened with the investigation on the attack in Benghazi? Nada. As far as "the people" most of them are uniformed, couldn't give a shit or willfully drink the party kool aid. Also keep in mind that the Democrat\Clinton spin machine has yet to start.

[Monker]

They said they would not approve funding homeland security if it meant that it would fund B.O.'s executive order on immigration. They caved.

They know they can't win a national election without some sort of minority voting block. This hardline stance was hurting them - BADLY - with Latino voters. The bottom line is only having the over 40 white male vote will not get a Republican elected President.

And, frankly, I think they expected Obama to cave because he has done it so often in the past. But, he now have very little to lose now, and Republican have a lot to lose, so he may as well stick to his stance. The roles have reversed a little bit now.

What happened with the investigation on the attack in Benghazi? Nada.

LOL...the Republicans spent tens of millions of dollars and at the end of the investigation found nothing. Perhaps if the funding for such investigations came from the requesting party rather then taxpayers such ridiculous bullshit would not be investigated.

And, FF, that is how I would feel about this entire Email thing, regardless of what party Clinton is in. You are all caught up in the political propaganda you allow it to infect your brain.

As far as "the people" most of them are uniformed, couldn't give a shit or willfully drink the party kool aid. Also keep in mind that the Democrat\Clinton spin machine has yet to start.

That is actually somewhat true. However, the Republicans are ignoring, or have policies against, almost ALL minority voters. This is part of the reason Obama was reelected...and, IMO, Romney's stupid %47 comment. So, who are they going to nominate? Jeb Bush? He's really the only guy who even has a chance.

[Monker]

I can't argue with any of that. But the clintons have a huge closet full of dirty shit and it will all reappear.

"Reappear", exactly. Go for it...the people have already been through it one time and don't give a shit any longer. It's going to backfire bigtime if it is pushed too far.

She couldn't beat Obama

That's because he was the better campaigner, and he was riding a HUGE wave that Clinton just couldn't overcome.

and his crew doesn't like her.

LOL...so what? I bet they like her better than any Republican. In the end, it's about getting your party into the Whitehouse, or keeping it there....not about the personal bullshit.

She is no more a shoe in the the Socialist Party in France. You know, the one getting it's socialist ass handed to it.

Sure...keep ignoring the problems within the Republican party and instead concentrate with a jealous vigor on the Democrats. That strategy worked very well for the Democrats in the 1980's.

[Boomchild]

I can't argue with any of that. But the clintons have a huge closet full of dirty shit and it will all reappear. She couldn't beat Obama, and his crew doesn't like her. She is no more a shoe in the the Socialist Party in France. You know, the one getting it's socialist ass handed to it.

I don't see any reaction from the public that would indicate that this is a bombshell that would derail her run for office. Also, she's the best that the Democrats have. No one could have beat B.O.. His campaign was spot on. You have to admit that whether you like him or not. Whether "his crew" likes or doesn't like her will have zero effect on the next election. As I see it now, the Republicans will once again drop the ball as they have d in recent Presidential elections. All this for me is moot since it doesn't effect the corruption in our government which will cause this country to fall. Some would say that this all part of a carefully constructed plan to destroy our country from within. A plan that was set forth long ago. Who knows they just may be right.

[Boomchild]

And, FF, that is how I would feel about this entire Email thing, regardless of what party Clinton is in. You are all caught up in the political propaganda you allow it to infect your brain.

It's all political propaganda at this point. Whether you are talking about Republicans or Democrats. A shell game. Supporters of each side drinking their own parties kool aid. Personally, I'm getting to the point that I no longer really give a shit. Because no matter which "option" you choose, in the end the outcome is the same, screwed.

[JBlake]

Hillary has nothing to hide. Because she got rid of it.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/ ... n=thupdate

No surprise there! What comes to mind is the Oliver North ordeal. Sign of the times. Back in the 80's it was a shredder, today it's slicking a hard drive. But ol' mule face Kerry won't be doing any of the Kerry Committee operations this time around, for the obvious Libby Democraper agenda/reasons.

[Monker]

Hey Boomchild, Hillarys numbers are dropping. Dems number 2 hope, Joe Biden. Not looking good for Monkers side.

You need to back 4yrs ago and read those posts. The Republicans had a weakened Obama and had the very real opportunity to make him a one term President. But, instead of putting forth their best candidate that the party could get behind, a bunch of idiots ran who were unelectable. I said that after the first Republican debate...none of them were electable. Then, we went through an entire year of FF's bullshit propaganda and high hopes posts of a huge Republican win...right up to election day.

That turned out real good for Republicans, didn't it? Funny how after months of praise and talk of how Romney was such a good candidate and would win, he (and most Republicans) say he was not a good representative of the party.

Polls at this stage are irrelevant...they simply don't matter. The very fact that you are watching them shows more about your fear of losing then it does about the Clinton's ability to win.

[JBlake]

Another Democraper busted. This time it's NJ Democraper Menendez.

A democraper getting busted on corruption charges? You don't say.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TnkJ8_BmSI

[Monker]

How much better off we would be now if Romney had won. Hillary lost then, she's losing now. Sorry about your damn luck....well, not really.

LOL...the nominations haven't even happened and you are saying she's "losing". Maybe you Republicans should concentrate on finding a candidate who can win rather than saying Clinton is losing.

And, I said in the middle of the last campaign that whoever won would have the luck of an economy in recovery...and that is what has happened. When Clinton can stand up and ask Americans if they are better off now, or at the end of the last Republican President's term...that question alone could get her elected. Or, she could ask if people were better off at the end of the Bill's presidency, or W's? These are especially good points if Jeb Bush in nominated.

Hillary lost a nomination, so what. So did Reagan. So did FDR. I posted here repeatedly that Obama was better and he would win the nomination. Whether you like it or not, Clinton is the Democrats best candidate. There is no obvious choice from the Republicans because you have the Tea Party extreme that has influence....that are all unelectable. Then you have the somewhat moderate Jeb Bush/Chris Christy types that bore people into not voting. Then you have Rand Paul who is an oddball and really should be a Libertarian...and he is also unelectable. Republicans are a party that is split into radically different opinions and agendas...and has absolutely no ability to come to a consensus. Oh, you will put up a front if Jeb is nominated...but inside you'll be disappointed because he is "too liberal"...and when he loses, that is the excuse you'll give...and ignore the deep issues within the party itself.

[Boomchild]

Hey Boomchild, Hillarys numbers are dropping. Dems number 2 hope, Joe Biden. Not looking good for Monkers side.

Even though that may be the case, for me it doesn't matter. In my mind no matter which party wins the election, things will only get worse. The corruption runs on both sides of the street. None of the politicians are really doing "the will of the people". All this means is that which ever party wins, will determine how slow or fast we proceed toward the cliff.

[JBlake]

Hey Boomchild, Hillarys numbers are dropping. Dems number 2 hope, Joe Biden. Not looking good for Monkers side.

Even though that may be the case, for me it doesn't matter. In my mind no matter which party wins the election, things will only get worse. "The corruption runs on both sides of the street". None of the politicians are really doing "the will of the people". All this means is that which ever party wins, will determine how slow or fast we proceed toward the cliff.

How's come only individuals write this sort of bs during the time when a Democraper is in office? Not once did I read a similar remark during the time a Republican was in office. No, not once. All it was is Bush this and Bush that, Republicans this and Republicans that. Now while Osama Is Obama's in office and much worse than those conspiracy theories are making usual rounds through the Democraper channels, all of a sudden "everyone" is fucked up. I don't buy it, one bit! When Democrapers have nothing, they just simply say "everybody". Just plain Shitty!

Was the VA targeting specific individuals? Was the IRS targeting specific groups? Did we have more out of pocket for healthcare, was there a larger racial divide, etc. etc. etc. before Chump Obama was in office? Not no but Fuck no!

Instead the only bullshit Democrapers were doing was spreading pathetic conspiracy theories such as "9-11 inside job" and Bush even "ordering" it to rain as a form of "crowd control".

[Monker]

Monker, I really don't care what you think. Clinton is falling in the poles. Sorry, go cry to the news.

If you are looking at polls for Clinton NOW, then you are absolutely worried that she is going to win. Again, who is the one candidate the Republicans know can beat her...and what are his poll numbers? You are the one crying, and are very desperate.

The bottom line is any poll that is released today is irrelevant because the conventions reset everything. Even then it's just a snapshot in time with a lot of guesswork. FF posted poll after poll four years ago....bragging all the way to election day how Romney was ahead and was going to win. WRONG. So, go ahead, believe what you want. Brag about it even. Clinton is so far behind that Republicans may as well not vote. Sounds good to me.

[Monker]

How's come only individuals write this sort of bs during the time when a Democraper is in office?

Because you only see what you want to believe and have too small of a brain to pay attention to the big picture.

And, BTW, I doubt Bommchild is a Democrat. He sounds more like an independent to me. But, whatever.

Not once did I read a similar remark during the time a Republican was in office.

Oh, so you are saying you are an old timer and were on this forum 8yrs ago?

[/quote] All it was is Bush this and Bush that, Republicans this and Republicans that.[/quote]

Well, that's because he sucked. He drove the economy into a near depression and drug us into needless war in Iraq.

Now while Osama Is Obama's in office and much worse than those conspiracy theories are making usual rounds through the Democraper channels, all of a sudden "everyone" is fucked up.

Republicans have their own way of doing the EXACT SAME THING. The difference is most Republicans take those things seriously and really don't know fact from made up bullshit.

Was the VA targeting specific individuals? Was the IRS targeting specific groups? Did we have more out of pocket for healthcare, was there a larger racial divide, etc. etc. etc. before Chump Obama was in office? Not no but Fuck no!

Whatever. Hoover used the FBI to target liberals for years. Of course Nixon used his powers to spy on Democrats to win reelection. If you don't understand that such crap happens on both sides then you are living in a fantasy.

Instead the only bullshit Democrapers were doing was spreading pathetic conspiracy theories such as "9-11 inside job" and Bush even "ordering" it to rain as a form of "crowd control".

And, Republicans spend all their time talking about birth certificates and "secret Muslim", and spending tens of millions of dollars to investigate Benghazi only to prove nothing outrageous happened. Now lets repeat and do the same with Email...yeah, that's a good way to spend money. You are pathetic if you can't see that both sides do EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

[Monker]

Monker, I simply heard a sound bite of the evening news a couple of days ago that Hillarys numbers are dropping in several States where she should be a shoe in because she's been caught lying and destroyed her emails to save her ass.

....and I'm saying it doesn't matter. She hasn't even formally declared she is running yet. The election is more than a year away. Yet, you are so worried that Clinton will win that you come here and post crap like this, that she's losing, that she lost once before...and on and on and on. In the end, you don't even have anybody to run against her. So, whatever.

I'm sure your not the least bit ashamed that after Romney handed Obama his ass in the first debate, that the last two were fixed so Obama couldn't lose, no matter how much lying they had to do. I'm just sorry Romney stood there and took it, but really he was not my 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice, and he'd still be leagues better then Obama.

Why don't you stop crying about your losses in the last election before you start expressing your paranoia about losing the next one.

[AR]

Monker,

The amount of politics you discuss proves you've never really blown a good load in a hot chick. How old are you anyway? Jesus Christ or Allah (since I guess you love our president) Go get a hooker. Do something fun.

Stop being a crotchety old c-u-n-t. Live a little.

We all believe what we believe but are generally puppets with no control.

We've all been around here FOREVER and your sense of humor remains at sub zero.

[AR]

Whatever you think politically, Monker is more happy with his party brokering an agreement with a terrorist state. Fine maybe the nukes are slowed. What benefit does anyone really get when radical Islam will now thrive with the lifting of sanctions?

Monker you are a clueless dick. Partisanship over death and destruction. Can I worship with you in your mosque?

[Boomchild]

How's come only individuals write this sort of bs during the time when a Democraper is in office? Not once did I read a similar remark during the time a Republican was in office. No, not once. All it was is Bush this and Bush that, Republicans this and Republicans that. Now while Osama Is Obama's in office and much worse than those conspiracy theories are making usual rounds through the Democraper channels, all of a sudden "everyone" is fucked up. I don't buy it, one bit! When Democrapers have nothing, they just simply say "everybody". Just plain Shitty!

Was the VA targeting specific individuals? Was the IRS targeting specific groups? Did we have more out of pocket for healthcare, was there a larger racial divide, etc. etc. etc. before Chump Obama was in office? Not no but Fuck no!

Instead the only bullshit Democrapers were doing was spreading pathetic conspiracy theories such as "9-11 inside job" and Bush even "ordering" it to rain as a form of "crowd control".

People talking about corruption in our government has gone on for a long time and not just when Democrats have held the office of the President. To think that the corruption is only happening on one side of the street is being naive. To think that either party is doing things for the good of the common citizen is also naive. By the way, it's people like Alex Jones that talk about 9-11 conspiracy theories. If you know anything about him and most of the others that talk about these types of conspiracies they far from being Democrats or leftists.
On a side note, my comment about Alex Jones and those like him is not an endorsement.

[Boomchild]

And, BTW, I doubt Bommchild is a Democrat. He sounds more like an independent to me. But, whatever.

You got that right. I am not even close to being a Democrat, liberal or progressive.

[Boomchild]

And, Republicans spend all their time talking about birth certificates and "secret Muslim", and spending tens of millions of dollars to investigate Benghazi only to prove nothing outrageous happened. Now lets repeat and do the same with Email...yeah, that's a good way to spend money. You are pathetic if you can't see that both sides do EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

With respect to Benghazi, the mere fact that when the CIA agents where told to stand down and not engage the attackers at the embassy was outrageous.