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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:31 pm

RPM wrote:2) No, the constitution was not designed to provide the same rights to everyone.
There were designated rights pertaining to citizenship, marriage ect. you must have
meant that in a different way?


Were talking the point of discrimination here. Based on that the Supreme Court should have the right to review and rule on the issues based around it. You had a class of people that stated they were being discriminated against by not being allowed to have their relationships legally recognized. I have found that every time the Supreme Court over turns a State Law the slippery slope banner is waived. With this specific issue I just don't see that.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:26 am

Boomchild wrote:
RPM wrote:2) No, the constitution was not designed to provide the same rights to everyone.
There were designated rights pertaining to citizenship, marriage ect. you must have
meant that in a different way?


Were talking the point of discrimination here. Based on that the Supreme Court should have the right to review and rule on the issues based around it. You had a class of people that stated they were being discriminated against by not being allowed to have their relationships legally recognized. I have found that every time the Supreme Court over turns a State Law the slippery slope banner is waived. With this specific issue I just don't see that.


Based on that line of thinking there are still groups of people who feel their relationships are not legally
recognized, and based on the recent decision they are right. Two men or two women were not discriminated
against with the previous law because it didn't apply to them. It was designed and structured for one man and one woman.

Are those of us who are not disabled being discriminated against because we get fined if we use the handicap parking?
Everything is not all inclusive. Should two men or two women have some kind of recognized legality ? Yes, I think so
And that could have been done along time ago.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:19 am

RPM wrote:Based on that line of thinking there are still groups of people who feel their relationships are not legally
recognized, and based on the recent decision they are right. Two men or two women were not discriminated
against with the previous law because it didn't apply to them. It was designed and structured for one man and one woman.

Are those of us who are not disabled being discriminated against because we get fined if we use the handicap parking?
Everything is not all inclusive. Should two men or two women have some kind of recognized legality ? Yes, I think so
And that could have been done along time ago.


So in other words by your viewpoint the definition should never be amended to include other unions between to human beings. Even though our society has evolved into an acceptance that there people who are attracted to persons of the same sex. That it isn't a crime or something people should need to keep in the closet. The problem I have with a lot of those that were opposed to the Supreme Court ruling is that it seems none of them were coming up with some type of alternative to legally recognizing same sex relationships. To me it was more about peoples moral beliefs about same sex relationships then the legal use of the word marriage.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:47 pm

Boomchild wrote:
RPM wrote:Based on that line of thinking there are still groups of people who feel their relationships are not legally
recognized, and based on the recent decision they are right. Two men or two women were not discriminated
against with the previous law because it didn't apply to them. It was designed and structured for one man and one woman.

Are those of us who are not disabled being discriminated against because we get fined if we use the handicap parking?
Everything is not all inclusive. Should two men or two women have some kind of recognized legality ? Yes, I think so
And that could have been done along time ago.


So in other words by your viewpoint the definition should never be amended to include other unions between to human beings. Even though our society has evolved into an acceptance that there people who are attracted to persons of the same sex. That it isn't a crime or something people should need to keep in the closet. The problem I have with a lot of those that were opposed to the Supreme Court ruling is that it seems none of them were coming up with some type of alternative to legally recognizing same sex relationships. To me it was more about peoples moral beliefs about same sex relationships then the legal use of the word marriage.


Correct. I do not beleive we should "amend the definition". Just as Transgender is not an amended definition, it has its own
Meaning, as it should. How would you feel about amending the definition of U.S. Sovereignty to include open borders?
Since over time we become more acceptable to millions of people crossing are border illegally , in my wonderful state
We even give them college education , drivers license, sanctuary from those evil ice people who want to steal their dream.
Maybe your right for most people it wasn't about the legal use of the word Marriage, but same sex attraction is nothing new, while I don't get it those that do could have had civil unions work well and have legal rights and protections irregardless of
How other people felt about it morally.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:55 pm

RPM wrote:Correct. I do not beleive we should "amend the definition". Just as Transgender is not an amended definition, it has its own Meaning, as it should.


In this particular case I don't believe the inclusion of same sex couples in the term "marriage" is going to water down the meaning of the term or cause heterosexual marriage to become extinct. People are waving the word around as if it is some sacred institution. It's not, at least anymore. Simply by judging how easily people cast off their marriages or worse yet the rate of adultery. So I think people need to take the blinders off and get a reality check.

RPM wrote:How would you feel about amending the definition of U.S. Sovereignty to include open borders?


Completely different subject and issue. It's akin to comparing an apple to an orange. I am not advocating that at every turn we change long standing laws or traditions.

RPM wrote:Maybe your right for most people it wasn't about the legal use of the word Marriage, but same sex attraction is nothing new, while I don't get it those that do could have had civil unions work well and have legal rights and protections irregardless of How other people felt about it morally.


Correct. People don't get the fact that there is and has been same sex attraction since the existence of man. It seems some want to just stick their fingers in their ears and cry "I Can't Hear You!". Because of their moral high ground they dig their heals in and won't budge. Thinking that will make it go away. That is why things ended up the way they did.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:40 am

"In this particular case I don't believe the inclusion of same sex couples in the term "marriage" is going to water down the meaning of the term or cause heterosexual marriage to become extinct."

There are people who feel the exact same way with other "inclusions"


" I am not advocating that at every turn we change long standing laws or traditions."

You aren't the one who concerns me. There are many groups who want to do just that, and to the heart of my main point of this whole discussion is the "amending definitions" . We have primarily been discussing this latest decision,
but I believe there are broader and more intrusive implications coming.


"Because of their moral high ground they dig their heals in and won't budge. Thinking that will make it go away. That is why things ended up the way they did".[/quote]

Don't you have any "moral ground" that you won't budge on? we lost over 500,000 Americans in 2 wars who died
protecting our long standing traditions, laws , and "morals". Are we to judge what remains sacred by how well it is being respected at the current time?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:58 pm

RPM wrote:You aren't the one who concerns me. There are many groups who want to do just that, and to the heart of my main point of this whole discussion is the "amending definitions" . We have primarily been discussing this latest decision,
but I believe there are broader and more intrusive implications coming.


That may be. There is a progressive movement out there that feels we need to cast off a lot of "our old ways". Some extreme as that we need to basically scrap The Constitution since it's so old and out of date.


RPM wrote:Don't you have any "moral ground" that you won't budge on? we lost over 500,000 Americans in 2 wars who died protecting our long standing traditions, laws , and "morals".


Sure I have certain moral beliefs that probably can't be changed. But I don't think it's my place to inflict said morals on the entire population of a country. Such as gay marriage. If there is a God and it's against his principles then it's not going to be me that his held accountable for such actions. Since it falls into the area personal accountability, it's not my place to block people from making that choice. That's my position.

When speaking about the 2 wars are you referring to the wars in the Middle East? If so, those were not fought for this country's long standing traditions, laws and moral beliefs. That's propaganda. We were in no danger of losing the things mentioned here. Those things apply to American soil and territories. The Middle East is not American territory. The reason we basically failed on these missions and are still failing is that you cannot force our long standing traditions, structure of law and moral beliefs on another country or territory. The people that are citizens of the Middle East must be willing to do it themselves. That was not the case with the wars in the Middle East. This country was not created to spread democracy or republics across the globe. We certainly could spark interest by being a successful example.

RPM wrote:Are we to judge what remains sacred by how well it is being respected at the current time?


This is why I made the point of prophecy and\or "in the world but not of it". You can't control it. That's obvious by the way this country and the world is changing. What you can control is your own personal actions. That is what is most important. If you focus on trying to control things beyond yourself, it will drive you insane.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:53 pm

Boomchild wrote:
RPM wrote:You aren't the one who concerns me. There are many groups who want to do just that, and to the heart of my main point of this whole discussion is the "amending definitions" . We have primarily been discussing this latest decision,
but I believe there are broader and more intrusive implications coming.


That may be. There is a progressive movement out there that feels we need to cast off a lot of "our old ways". Some extreme as that we need to basically scrap The Constitution since it's so old and out of date.


RPM wrote:Don't you have any "moral ground" that you won't budge on? we lost over 500,000 Americans in 2 wars who died protecting our long standing traditions, laws , and "morals".


Sure I have certain moral beliefs that probably can't be changed. But I don't think it's my place to inflict said morals on the entire population of a country. Such as gay marriage. If there is a God and it's against his principles then it's not going to be me that his held accountable for such actions. Since it falls into the area personal accountability, it's not my place to block people from making that choice. That's my position.

When speaking about the 2 wars are you referring to the wars in the Middle East? If so, those were not fought for this country's long standing traditions, laws and moral beliefs. That's propaganda. We were in no danger of losing the things mentioned here. Those things apply to American soil and territories. The Middle East is not American territory. The reason we basically failed on these missions and are still failing is that you cannot force our long standing traditions, structure of law and moral beliefs on another country or territory. The people that are citizens of the Middle East must be willing to do it themselves. That was not the case with the wars in the Middle East. This country was not created to spread democracy or republics across the globe. We certainly could spark interest by being a successful example.

RPM wrote:Are we to judge what remains sacred by how well it is being respected at the current time?


This is why I made the point of prophecy and\or "in the world but not of it". You can't control it. That's obvious by the way this country and the world is changing. What you can control is your own personal actions. That is what is most important. If you focus on trying to control things beyond yourself, it will drive you insane.


I was referring to WW1 &2 . I agree completely about the mideast wars.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:49 am

RPM wrote:I was referring to WW1 &2 . I agree completely about the mideast wars.


WW 1 and 2 were completely different situations all together. Certainly, when you have a military power looking for global or domination of a continent one has to act. In recent history we have gone to war for all the wrong reasons or for reasons masked by false ones.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:25 am

Marriage vs. Civil Unions

Forcing gays to get a "Civil Union" while everybody else can get "married" is also unconstitutional. The separate but equal Jim Crowe type laws being overturned proves that.

If the country is willing to give up marriage as a legally binding "contract" and force EVERYBODY to get a "civil union" and recognize THAT as the legally binding contract between "husband and wife". Then, if you are religious you can be "married" in any church you wish...and recognize THAT as the "contract" between "God" (whatever you define that as being) and family. THAT is the only way a "civil union" and "marriage" could work and not be unconstitutional. It is fair and equal to everybody and gives to man what is mans and to God what is God's.

It is fundamentally wrong to believe "legalizing" gay marriage was part of a "progressive agenda". It is the CONSERVATIVE agenda that forced this issue to the courts by writing laws to ban gay marriage. That brought into question the legality of such laws - and they failed the tests at the highest level of judgement. If conservatives had taken their own advice and backed off and let it be decided by the churches and communities, things may have been a lot different today.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:09 am

Monker wrote: If conservatives had taken their own advice and backed off and let it be decided by the churches and communities, things may have been a lot different today.


The LGBT community wanted The Supreme Court to rule on it as well. They wanted it to be legal across the board. They would not have settled for it to be legal in some areas of the country and not others.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:45 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote: If conservatives had taken their own advice and backed off and let it be decided by the churches and communities, things may have been a lot different today.


The LGBT community wanted The Supreme Court to rule on it as well. They wanted it to be legal across the board. They would not have settled for it to be legal in some areas of the country and not others.


Absolutely correct. There was a problem with certain states not willing to recognize civil unions
Which would have created a real legal mess, I don't see why they couldn't have been mandated
At the federal level to eliminate that problem.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:05 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Horse crap. If gays can marry Gays, then cousins can marry cousins, brothers can marry sisters, brothers can marry brothers, ect all as long as they are consenting adults. Where do you draw the line? How biggotted of you monker to think that only men should marry women, or gays should marry gays when so many other adults can be of legal age and marry, like the daughter in New York that wants to marry her father. This can of worms is brought to you by PROGRESSIVE LIBERALS.


This sounds irrational to the moderates but it certainly is a can of worms that will lead to more legal
Challenges. As you say, where do you draw the line? My guess would be they (not the moderates) would say
Why does there have to be a line? Because that's where this is heading, when you have selective enforcement
Of laws, amending definitions of values and traditions the new rules are there are no rules. It all turns into what
Will be tolerated at a particular time.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:14 pm

Monker wrote:Marriage vs. Civil Unions

Forcing gays to get a "Civil Union" while everybody else can get "married" is also unconstitutional. The separate but equal Jim Crowe type laws being overturned proves that.

If the country is willing to give up marriage as a legally binding "contract" and force EVERYBODY to get a "civil union" and recognize THAT as the legally binding contract between "husband and wife". Then, if you are religious you can be "married" in any church you wish...and recognize THAT as the "contract" between "God" (whatever you define that as being) and family. THAT is the only way a "civil union" and "marriage" could work and not be unconstitutional. It is fair and equal to everybody and gives to man what is mans and to God what is God's.

It is fundamentally wrong to believe "legalizing" gay marriage was part of a "progressive agenda". It is the CONSERVATIVE agenda that forced this issue to the courts by writing laws to ban gay marriage. That brought into question the legality of such laws - and they failed the tests at the highest level of judgement. If conservatives had taken their own advice and backed off and let it be decided by the churches and communities, things may have been a lot different today.


Do you beleive there is a progressive agenda? There certainly is a conservative one. If you are acknowledging there is one,
Your saying they were not supporting this? They sat this one out?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:11 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Iran can be trusted, right?
http://news.yahoo.com/formal-nuclear-de ... itics.html


The nearly 100-page accord announced Tuesday aims to keep Iran from producing enough material for an atomic weapon for at least 10 years and imposes new provisions for inspections of Iranian facilities, including military sites.


So if I understand this correctly, all this does is delay Iran's ability to produce a nuclear weapon. It doesn't stop them from eventually obtaining the capability. So basically Iran gets what it wanted and has the ability to produce a nuclear weapon down the road. New chapter my ass. Also loved how they tried to play down that they even were looking to produce one. You don't enrich nuclear fuel like that to keep the lights on.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:31 pm



Pretty sick.....and the same people who support P.P. Cry foul when a terrorist gets dunked with water...go figure.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:03 am

Why would they all go back anyways? They get more in America as illegals then they do as citizens in their own shithole country. Plus how many of those illegals are running from their own law enforcement for crimes they committed in their own country? Just imagine if Mexico turned into a sanctuary for illegal American's. How many Americans would commit a crime in America and then simply flee into Mexico where they won't be prosecuted, incarcerated, and/or deported, plus the Mexican government give them all the benefits like America (San Francisco) gives to illegals from Mexico?

That asshole who shot and killed the chick in San Francisco is on the gravy train now. He'll be spending the rest of his life in the American taxpayer funded prison system. Think about it like this, the only time a person no longer has to worry about getting a job, working to pay for shelter, food, dental, healthcare, live in a warm dry place with furniture, electricity sewage, garbage, and never ever for the rest of their lives have to worry about being homeless, is when they get life in prison without the possibility of parole. The only other time this same situation holds true is when someone wins the megamillions, powerball, etc. jackpots. Those are the only two situations where you're "SET FOR LIFE"!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:22 am

in fairness.. that article wasn't written by Tina Griego... it was mistakenly attributed to her... she even tried to clarify that in June 2010 (read it here: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15247891?source=infinite )

...and none of the specific statistics mentioned have:

  • any sources to back them up
  • dates to indicate when the data was derived

...and it presumes none of the country’s problems with social program abuse and criminal activity are self-inflicted...

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:24 am

Fact Finder wrote:What if the illegals left?


Yeah, just imagine. And not to mention how many fat, overweight, lazy democrat liberals would have no other choice but to actually do their own house cleaning, clean their own car, cook their own meals, watch their own kids, do their own fucking yard work, etc. etc. etc.

Speaking of which, I ran across this funny article in the news today about something going on somewhere in America. Interesting when you read the names of all the criminals popped in operation "Coffee Break". Someone will raise the issue that this story and/or operation is somehow racist and someone down at the station will lose their job over it. HaHaHa!

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33 indicted in alleged car crash ring that raked in $500K in insurance

A total of 33 people were each charged with felony insurance fraud in the operation dubbed “Coffee Break,” in which the suspects allegedly reported that they accidentally spilled coffee on themselves, lost control of the cars and crashed, Deputy District Attorney Charlotte Chang said.

The suspects allegedly crashed older-model cars on purpose for the sake of collecting insurance and collected roughly $500,000 across 28 claims, she said.

Chang said the alleged car crash ring was “very complex and very organized” compared to other cases she has worked on.

The group consists of family members, acquaintances and friends, Chang said.

Many of the suspects were recruited from two apartment complexes in San Jose, according to Chang.

Ten of the 14 defendants in custody appeared at the South County Courthouse in Morgan Hill this afternoon, Chang said. Those suspects were identified as San Jose residents Ramon Lujano Arreguin, 63; Oscar Escobar, 37; Oscar Diaz Landa, 45; Vicent Dominguez Ojeda, 32; Jose Santos Salzar, 52; Jorge Salazar, 53; Irma Rodriguez, 34; Maria Barragan Corral, 34, of Gilroy; Santos Escobar Alvardo, 35, of Redwood City; and Rodolfo Guillen Alvizar, 31, who has no known city of residence.

One of the 10 defendants, Jorge Salazar, was arraigned and pleaded not guilty to a felony count of insurance fraud, according to Chang.

His next scheduled court appearance was set for Tuesday.

The other nine defendants still need to be assigned an attorney and are scheduled to be arraigned on Tuesday, Chang said.

The other suspects in custody were identified as San Jose residents Eduardo Ayon, 37; Beatriz Chavez, 34; Rene Partida Delgadillo, 45; and Sergio Diaz Landa, 46, of Stockton, prosecutors said.

A California Highway Patrol investigator discovered the alleged scam in which the suspects bought insurance policies shortly before they filed multiple car crash claims between 2010 and 2012, according to prosecutors.

A majority of the accidents happened within Santa Clara County and the suspects allegedly used false names or aliases in the claims, prosecutors said.

In some of the claims, the suspect allegedly bought an auctioned or salvaged car and intentionally crashed it into one or two other cars owned by other people who were also part of the scam, prosecutors said.

The car owners then allegedly claimed losses with insurance companies, which in most cases determined the vehicles, were totaled, according to prosecutors.

The owners or lien holders were paid back the full value of the cars, prosecutors said.

The suspects allegedly had some of the cars repaired and crashed them again to collect more money from the insurance companies, according to prosecutors.

Each defendant faces up to five years in prison if convicted of the felony insurance fraud count, Chang said.

Detectives from the state Department of Insurance and its Urban Organized Auto Insurance Fraud Task Force, CHP and District Attorney’s Office investigated the case for three years.

Some of the companies that fell victim to the alleged scheme include Farmers Insurance Group, State Farm Mutual Automobile Insurance Company, Infinity Insurance, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and Personable General Insurance Agency, Chang said.

“Insurance fraud costs are passed along to everyone who pays an insurance automobile policy. These are loses that directly affect us,” she said.

“California is ground zero for staged auto collisions, which costs the insurance industry billions in losses every year,” state Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones said in a statement.
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Postby Boomchild » Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:36 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:All we ask is you vote liberal. Over and over again.


Someone should make up actual signs like this and post them at the border!
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:22 am

U.S. 'disturbed' by Iranian leader's criticism after deal

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said a speech by Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei on Saturday vowing to defy American policies in the region despite a deal with world powers over Tehran's nuclear program was "very troubling"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us- ... ar-AAdgNd9


So either B.O. and Kerry are very, very naive or there has been some underlying reason why they basically have only delayed Iran's progress towards a nuclear weapon. Did he and B.O. actually think this was really going to change what the Iranian leaders thought about the U.S. government. This is almost like a sitcom.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby RPM » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:13 am

We need more Americans like this woman panelist!!

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:37 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Wow! Who would have seen this coming?
http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-says-iran-v ... 23527.html


Err, isn't this what I posted earlier today?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:54 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:[
Same subject, different story. I guess even the liberal press is starting to think Obama is an idiot.


Here the thing though, I don't believe that he is an idiot. To me there seems to be a hidden agenda behind the way he handles things. An agenda that if people knew really what end result he is looking for, they would never support him on it.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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Same subject, different story. I guess even the liberal press is starting to think Obama is an idiot.


Here the thing though, I don't believe that he is an idiot. To me there seems to be a hidden agenda behind the way he handles things. An agenda that if people knew really what end result he is looking for, they would never support him on it.

It's been mentioned, not in the liberal media, that Obama has a Muslim side, like his Father. He's shown it in Syria, Iraq, as well as Northern Africa, and his total picking of the wrong side with the Muslim brotherhood. He for sure does not back the Kurds.


Ob'ma is a total disgrace. Disgrace to the Democrack's and to those who are the so called minority. If I were black I'd be pissed that my brotha from anotha mothaphucka is fucking shit up like the way he is.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:24 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:It's been mentioned, not in the liberal media, that Obama has a Muslim side, like his Father. He's shown it in Syria, Iraq, as well as Northern Africa, and his total picking of the wrong side with the Muslim brotherhood. He for sure does not back the Kurds.


Yeah, I have heard the "secret Muslim" thing. But I am not sure about it. I think that he may have a sympathetic view when it comes to issues in the Muslim community. It seems to me it goes much deeper then that. As a whole, I believe that he feels that America has become to much of an influence and power in the world and that he somehow wants to spread said " influence and power" around to other countries and nations. When speaking about picking the wrong side(s) with the Muslim community, he would not be the first POTUS and administration to do that. Surely he won't be the last either.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:38 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:He seems to side with the Sunnis, I believe. Not exactly our friends. He doesn't lift a finger to help Shites or Kurds. The Kurds are the ones we should be helping. I didn't say Obama was a Muslim, although by their law he is, but he has picked his side.


Actually we should not even be involved. Period.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:15 am

Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:It's been mentioned, not in the liberal media, that Obama has a Muslim side, like his Father. He's shown it in Syria, Iraq, as well as Northern Africa, and his total picking of the wrong side with the Muslim brotherhood. He for sure does not back the Kurds.


Yeah, I have heard the "secret Muslim" thing. But I am not sure about it. I think that he may have a sympathetic view when it comes to issues in the Muslim community. It seems to me it goes much deeper then that. As a whole, I believe that he feels that America has become to much of an influence and power in the world and that he somehow wants to spread said " influence and power" around to other countries and nations. When speaking about picking the wrong side(s) with the Muslim community, he would not be the first POTUS and administration to do that. Surely he won't be the last either.


Do some research on Ob'ma's father and you may get a few of your questions answered.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:52 am

JBlake wrote:Do some research on Ob'ma's father and you may get a few of your questions answered.


I have researched B.O.'s biological father. He was a anti-colonialist and active socialist. He once wrote a paper that suggested that there shouldn't be a cap on how much a government could tax it's citizens. In other words, up to 100% would be just fine with him. Add to that he was also a alcoholic and wife beater. Oh and a polygamist too. Married other women while not being divorced for B.O.'s mother. All of this which is really no secret since B.O. himself mentions some of this stuff in his own book "Dreams of My Father". His grandparents didn't fall that far form the "Tree of Socialism" either. When B.O.'s mother was of grade school age, his grandparents specifically moved to a school district that was over seen by a superintendent that was pro socialism and influenced the curriculum towards socialistic leanings. When B.O.'s mother sent B.O. from Indonesia to live with his grandparents in Hawaii, his grandfather thought it would be good idea for B.O. to have a mentor that was of African decent. Who did he pick for the job? None other then activist and writer Frank Marshal Davis. Who was well known to be a card carrying member of the Communist Party in the U.S.. So even before hanging around the likes of socialist militant Bill Ayers, B.O. got a healthy dose of socialist ideals.
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