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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:18 pm

Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:TNC, Lindbaugh and several other Conservative talking heads say sooner or later the DNC will pop Sanders balloon. They say he isn't a Democrat anyway but a Indep. They can't and won't let him win because he simply won't win an election. I think Trump might be on the way down also. He looked like a talking points parrot Wed night. One thing Trump has done, he's made the Republicans stand up for a change. Called them out, if you will.


Trump putting a spotlight on things is the only good thing about him being in the race. I would never elect him and I'm sure that I am not in a small group that think the same. What is interesting is how the press has focused on Trump's lack of foreign policy experience. You would think that since it was not an issue when B.O. was running then why would it be any different with Trump.


It was a different election. The economy had just tanked and there was a very real fear of a second "Great Depression". Foreign policy was on the table, it just wasn't at the top of the nation's priorities at the time. When entire industries are collapsing (housing, financial, auto...) and there is NO lending from banks, THAT becomes the focus. On the Republican side we had McCain saying "the fundamentals of the economy are strong...", which anybody with a brain knew was COMPLETELY wrong. That is why McCain lost, he seemed out of touch with reality and how dire the economic situation in this country was.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:21 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:slucero, they didn't look like Deers in the headlights Wednesday night. Trump got it as good as he gave it, and Christie did a very good job of Bitch slapping the CNN Mods who were dead set at starting fights and not leting candidates speak. Christie, for now, got off my never gonna get my vote list. Now I have to see if he's all talk or for real.


Oh, please...Trump really had nothing new to say at all. Of course he received some jabs - he's the front runner. Christie's "we need to go after the Democrats and not each other" speech was obviously planned ahead of time...it was NOT off the cuff.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:24 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Back on subject.

"Mrs. Clinton has to defend her track record," Fiorina said. "Her track record of lying about Benghazi, of lying about her emails, about lying about her servers. She does not have a track record of accomplishment."

Some might consider that a daring statement to make about a former first lady, senator and secretary of state, but Fiorina wasn't finished.

"Like Mrs. Clinton, I, too, have travels hundreds of thousands of miles around the globe. But unlike Mrs. Clinton, I know flying is an activity, not an accomplishment ... if you want to stump a Democrat, ask them to name a accomplishment of Mrs. Clinton's."


And, Trump was actually correct about Fiorina's business leadership. She was absolutely horrible. All you have to do is ask yourself one question....if she was such a good CEO, as she says she was, why has NO other major corporation offered her a job? She's a failure in the business world.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:27 pm

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:slucero, they didn't look like Deers in the headlights Wednesday night. Trump got it as good as he gave it, and Christie did a very good job of Bitch slapping the CNN Mods who were dead set at starting fights and not leting candidates speak. Christie, for now, got off my never gonna get my vote list. Now I have to see if he's all talk or for real.



I meant the party leadership...

The RNC hates Trump.. would rather one of "their" candidates (like Bush..) be the chosen one..

The DNC wants Hilary.. but she's got enough coming at her with her email server catastrophe that they are looking for another candidate.. and it ain't Sanders..


If you really listen to what Trump's policies are - he agrees with the Democrats very often. When are the cowards in the Republican party going to start calling him a RINO? I don't mean passively....but publicly, in media.

It doesn't matter who the Democrats nominate, at this point they could nominate Chelsie Clinton and she'd win.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:32 pm

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I thought Obama was the COMANDER and Chief.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/devil-mad ... 02608.html


You have to understand that anything that has failed or considered a failure is never the direct fault of B.O.. It just can't be for he is "the chosen one". Perfection can't produce failure. Only those that serve him can.


The funny thing is, you agree with this. We should not be training Syrian rebels anyway.

So, you complaining about this just makes you look like a hypocrite.

And, it's such a lame article. We trained 60 rebels and 4 are left. Wow, that was such a monstrous investment...how can we ever recover from such a failure? That makes the "Bay of Pigs" mission look so insignificant by comparison. Like, wow, and stuff.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:34 pm

Monker wrote:What? I said nothing about being "blue collar", or anything you wrote about.

I said he opened up and answered the questions very honestly. You did not even watch the interview, obviously.


You said "authentic honesty from the gut." Which is pretty much the equivalent of saying "Biden is the type of President I would like to have a cold beer with." In other words, you are saying Biden comes off as a relatable everyday guy. Which is as vapid and empty as the stooges who currently believe Trump will make America great again simply because he wears a red hat that says so. Both Biden and Clinton's guts are full of microbacterial flora and candida which will destroy the body politic. Wake the fuck up.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:34 pm

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:Wow, I actually completely agree with this bit from Bernie Sanders:


And this is supposed to be surprising just, how, exactly? YOU, the most liberal poster on MR, agree with Sanders, the most liberal Senator. Yea, now there's a big shocker! :roll:


I don't agree with much of his politics...


I call bullshit. Name 5 policies of Bernies that you disagree with. Hell, try to name even three.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:04 am

So some kid takes an old 70's/80's radio shack clock out of it's original casing, puts it in a metal briefcase and says he built it. Duffus Obama and Hillary go apeshit over it like the kid invented fire. Just goes to show how completely stupid Obama and Hilary really are. Or, is this clock project that much more of an accomplishment compared to what Obama and Hillary have accomplished? In that sense, the clock is genius compared to the accomplishments of those to idiots. No wonder O'Dismal and Biotchillery are so in awe. In awe to no end.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:45 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:What? I said nothing about being "blue collar", or anything you wrote about.

I said he opened up and answered the questions very honestly. You did not even watch the interview, obviously.


You said "authentic honesty from the gut." Which is pretty much the equivalent of saying "Biden is the type of President I would like to have a cold beer with." In other words, you are saying Biden comes off as a relatable everyday guy.


Now you are just making shit up and pretending I said things I didn't say. I was commenting directly to the Colbert interview. What I said had NOTHING to do with anything you are rambling about.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:14 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I call bullshit. Name 5 policies of Bernies that you disagree with. Hell, try to name even three.


Oh, please, I'm not going to quote everything...here is a link to his stance on the issues he feels are important:
https://berniesanders.com/issues/

A 'vengeance' tax on wall street 'speculators'....that's just plain stupid.

Increasing minimum wage - He wants to raise it to $15/hr in five years. I say that is way too high, and raising it too fast. IMO, this will cause a lot of pressure on the economy for increased inflation as ALL wages are adjusted upward. I would support increasing minimum wage - but not by doubling it. That's just silly.

Reversing "fair trade" policies. Again, that will put pressure on the economy and cause inflation. Making statements about bringing those manufacturing jobs back to the US is nonsensical. We are no longer living in the 1980's.

Free public colleges. First of all, I think that is a state issue - not a federal issue. Instead, I would rather tie this into volunteer work, the various public works projects he talked about, and the military GI Bill. If you do certain volunteer or public works, or serve in the armed services, then you qualify for the same tuition assistance. And, we should spend a little money to encourage people to actively volunteer.

State healthcare is not a right and should not be 'guaranteed' with citizenship.

It is not the governments place to provide or guarantee childcare. It should be up to the states who decide how to deal with preschool programs.

And, that is just one section from the above link. He also mentions spending a trillion here and billion there, etc...and does not mention how to pay for any of it. Unless he has huge cuts planned for the military and social security spending, then none of this can be taken very seriously anyway.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:28 am

JBlake wrote:So some kid takes an old 70's/80's radio shack clock out of it's original casing, puts it in a metal briefcase and says he built it. Duffus Obama and Hillary go apeshit over it like the kid invented fire. Just goes to show how completely stupid Obama and Hilary really are. Or, is this clock project that much more of an accomplishment compared to what Obama and Hillary have accomplished? In that sense, the clock is genius compared to the accomplishments of those to idiots. No wonder O'Dismal and Biotchillery are so in awe. In awe to no end.


If your kid was taken to a room and interrogated by three police officers for hours who refused to allow him to contact you despite repeatedly asking, and then formally charged and arrested, and still not allowed to contact you. YOU would go ape-shit crazy and blame Obama for creating a police state and kidnapping your kid.

It doesn't matter what the "clock" was. What it wasn't was a bomb, or even a fake bomb. The reaction from both sides was overblown stupidity and politically motivated. Yeah, if it was suspicious and they should have investigated it. But, it was handled wrong...and reaction to that wrong also went too far.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:35 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Monker the Conservative. :roll:


Not by your definition.

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Homosexuals should have equal protection under the law.
Owning a gun should be a privilege, not a Constitutional right. At the very least, we should admit that the second amendment is worded very badly and should be rewritten.
Amending the Constitution to outlaw flag burning, defining marriage, or life begins at conception, is fundamentally wrong. The wording in the Constitution should be to guarantee rights, not to limit them.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:54 am

Monker wrote:Who is "they"?

Besides, if you want to worry about muslims coming into this country...why don't you start looking into work visa's and how corporations snag them cheap for tech jobs. That's been a problem since Clinton.


"They" is whom ever is involved in the movement of refugees from Syria. Did I say I was worried about Muslims coming into this country? I said that terrorists i.e. ISIS could use the program to sneak in operatives in a "Trojan horse" like operation. I also said that the U.S. has done it's fair share of taking in refugees. Meaning refugees in general, not specifically Muslims. But of course true to the basic liberal's handbook, you spin the conversation as if has something to do with race or religion. Nice try, but you are way off base. The point is this country has enough trouble helping people that are alreday here and can't support themselves. I see no need to add to that issue. These refugees aren't coming to jobs waiting for them and will need financial support for who knows how long. I doubt that support is mainly going to be coming from private funds either. There are plenty of other places for them to be immigrated to. The best place for them would be somewhere in the Middle East.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:17 am

Monker wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:I call bullshit. Name 5 policies of Bernies that you disagree with. Hell, try to name even three.


Oh, please, I'm not going to quote everything...here is a link to his stance on the issues he feels are important:
https://berniesanders.com/issues/

A 'vengeance' tax on wall street 'speculators'....that's just plain stupid.


Where is this "vengeance tax" listed on Bernie's website? I don't see it. I think you made it up. Perhaps you are confused with a financial transaction/speculation tax, which is sooo "stupid" that it generates revenue for nearly EVERY other major industrialized country, dumbass. :roll:

Monker wrote:Increasing minimum wage - He wants to raise it to $15/hr in five years. I say that is way too high, and raising it too fast. IMO, this will cause a lot of pressure on the economy for increased inflation as ALL wages are adjusted upward. I would support increasing minimum wage - but not by doubling it. That's just silly.


Wow. Such a stark contrast between you and Bernie. He wants it to be $15 and you apparently want it to be $14.95. Get the hell out of here. :roll:

Monker wrote:Reversing "fair trade" policies. Again, that will put pressure on the economy and cause inflation. Making statements about bringing those manufacturing jobs back to the US is nonsensical. We are no longer living in the 1980's.

Sorry. Ross Perot was correct when he spoke about "NAFTA" and that "giant sucking sound." The Trans-Pacific Partnership is more of the same fake free trade policies, which apparently you love. What did NAFTA give us? It turned our trade surplus into a deficit and lowered wages. No wonder you love Biden and Clinton, both sellouts when it comes to the average American worker. :roll:

Monker wrote:Free public colleges. First of all, I think that is a state issue - not a federal issue. Instead, I would rather tie this into volunteer work, the various public works projects he talked about, and the military GI Bill. If you do certain volunteer or public works, or serve in the armed services, then you qualify for the same tuition assistance. And, we should spend a little money to encourage people to actively volunteer.

State healthcare is not a right and should not be 'guaranteed' with citizenship.

It is not the governments place to provide or guarantee childcare. It should be up to the states who decide how to deal with preschool programs.


Blah blah blah. As predicted, the difference between the policies of Monker and Bernie Sanders is like the difference between Mountain Dew and carbonated piss. Clearly, the only reason you oppose Bernie is because the presidential prospects of your beloved Hillary have diminished greatly. One candidate (Bernie) is a plain-spoken genuine artifact, while the other (Hillary) is about as likable as Hitler. Come November 2016, when either Trump or Bernie is elected, you should be apologizing to most of the posters in this thread.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:41 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Where is this "vengeance tax" listed on Bernie's website? I don't see it. I think you made it up. Perhaps you are confused with a financial transaction/speculation tax, which is sooo "stupid" that it generates revenue for nearly EVERY other major industrialized country, dumbass. :roll:


He said, " He will also enact a tax on Wall Street speculators who caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes, and life savings. " His own words are implying that "speculators" deserve this tax because they caused millions to, blah, blah, blah...and frankly, it's only partially true. There was a lot of blame to go around for the crash. Naïve home buyers who knew they could pay off their loan, getting loans. Lenders lending to naïve home buyers when they knew they couldn't pay off their loan. Traders working for large Wall Street companies bundling high risk mortgages and selling them on the market.

What kind of tax is he going to propose on the rest of the problem?

Wow. Such a stark contrast between you and Bernie. He wants it to be $15 and you apparently want it to be $14.95.


Minimum wage should not be raised by such a vast amount. Do you not see how that would cause inflation? I don't think it should be raised to more than $10/hr - at the most - over those five years. Even proposing it is a bad idea.

Sorry. Ross Perot was correct when he spoke about "NAFTA" and that "giant sucking sound." The Trans-Pacific Partnership is more of the same fake free trade policies, which apparently you love.


I am not saying "I love them". But, to go back on them now would have too much of a dramatic affect on the economy now. What Ross Perot commented on was from a perspective 20yrs ago. We are not going to get those industries back...it's backwards thinking. We should be thinking about new industries, not resurrecting old ones.

Monker wrote:Free public colleges. First of all, I think that is a state issue - not a federal issue. Instead, I would rather tie this into volunteer work, the various public works projects he talked about, and the military GI Bill. If you do certain volunteer or public works, or serve in the armed services, then you qualify for the same tuition assistance. And, we should spend a little money to encourage people to actively volunteer.

State healthcare is not a right and should not be 'guaranteed' with citizenship.

It is not the governments place to provide or guarantee childcare. It should be up to the states who decide how to deal with preschool programs.


Blah blah blah. As predicted


You predicted I couldn't name three policies...Well, above are three policies that I disagree with...along with others...and that is only one section of his website. I disagree with a LOT of what he says.

Clearly, the only reason you oppose Bernie is because the presidential prospects of your beloved Hillary have diminished greatly.


No, I have called Bernie a socialist from the beginning and said he was unelectable. I do not agree with much of what he proposes...that's a fact, and always has been.

And, YOU are the one who asked for the details. I am not actively on the war path against Bernie...you just seem to want me to be.

One candidate (Bernie) is a plain-spoken genuine artifact, while the other (Hillary) is about as likable as Hitler. Come November 2016, when either Trump or Bernie is elected, you should be apologizing to most of the posters in this thread.


Oh, if it is Trump vs. Bernie, then Bernie will win. But, that doesn't mean he's not a socialist. It also doesn't me that I think he has much of a chance of being nominated.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:42 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:TNC, we agree again. Moutain Dew does taste ike carbonated piss.


Wow, you have drank piss. Well, that explains some things.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:55 am

Boomchild wrote:
Monker wrote:Who is "they"?

Besides, if you want to worry about muslims coming into this country...why don't you start looking into work visa's and how corporations snag them cheap for tech jobs. That's been a problem since Clinton.


"They" is whom ever is involved in the movement of refugees from Syria. Did I say I was worried about Muslims coming into this country? I said that terrorists i.e. ISIS could use the program to sneak in operatives in a "Trojan horse" like operation. I also said that the U.S. has done it's fair share of taking in refugees. Meaning refugees in general, not specifically Muslims. But of course true to the basic liberal's handbook, you spin the conversation as if has something to do with race or religion. Nice try, but you are way off base. The point is this country has enough trouble helping people that are alreday here and can't support themselves. I see no need to add to that issue. These refugees aren't coming to jobs waiting for them and will need financial support for who knows how long. I doubt that support is mainly going to be coming from private funds either. There are plenty of other places for them to be immigrated to. The best place for them would be somewhere in the Middle East.


And, I am saying that if you are worried about such things, why are you not worried about some terrorist group training a terrorist to be hired on a work visa, or as a foreign contractor, for some large corporation. They could be brought into this country in a completely legal way and commit terrorism. Or, they could be out of country but work in IT and unleash some type of cyber attack. This is a plausible situation RIGHT NOW...and is EXACTLY the same type of thing you are inventing in your comments above.

I was not spinning anything. You seem to have a guilty conscience and are seeing things that aren't there.

You need to read up on how big of a problem Syrian refugees are. There are millions of them. Most of them went to Jordan. We have taken in only a few thousand over the entirety of the civil war....while Jordan took something like 10 million. Turkey also has millions.

I'm not saying we should take them in...it seems like you have no sense of the true scale of the problem, or even what is really happening. I have barely heard anything about it, but even I know what you are writing is guesswork - at best.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:57 am

Well, Scott Walker dropped out...and is asking others to do the same so they can consolidate and defeat Trump. Bet it doesn't happen...at least not to the extent that will mean anything in Trumps polls.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:00 pm

And, wow, I expected Fiorina to gain a bit...but I did NOT expect Trump to move even higher.

Crazy Republicans.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:54 pm

Monker wrote:You need to read up on how big of a problem Syrian refugees are. There are millions of them. Most of them went to Jordan. We have taken in only a few thousand over the entirety of the civil war....while Jordan took something like 10 million. Turkey also has millions.

I'm not saying we should take them in...it seems like you have no sense of the true scale of the problem, or even what is really happening. I have barely heard anything about it, but even I know what you are writing is guesswork - at best.


The bottom line is that Syria's refugee problem is not the U.S.' problem. It's a problem for the countries in that region of the world. Let them figure out what to do about it. No matter how many or how few our government is considering taking in is one too many in my opinion. We have got our own problems with trying help out people living here already that can't seem to support themselves. Also, sure terrorist cells have and can infiltrate the U.S. in the ways you suggested. I don't think it's best to give them yet another and possibly easier avenue to do so.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:00 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:So it comes out on O'Riley tonight that Bergdahl deserted on June 30th. On July 1st and 2nd, the military records tapes from his cell phone talking to Taliban wanting to join. This has been comon knowledge before Obama gave him the royal welcome at the White House after trading five high value war criminals for him. They are refusing to use the tapes against Burgdahl.


Guess treason is no longer a crime in this country. One more sign that this country and those in charge of running it are FUBAR.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:02 am

Monker wrote:
JBlake wrote:So some kid takes an old 70's/80's radio shack clock out of it's original casing, puts it in a metal briefcase and says he built it. Duffus Obama and Hillary go apeshit over it like the kid invented fire. Just goes to show how completely stupid Obama and Hilary really are. Or, is this clock project that much more of an accomplishment compared to what Obama and Hillary have accomplished? In that sense, the clock is genius compared to the accomplishments of those to idiots. No wonder O'Dismal and Biotchillery are so in awe. In awe to no end.


If your kid was taken to a room and interrogated by three police officers for hours who refused to allow him to contact you despite repeatedly asking, and then formally charged and arrested, and still not allowed to contact you. YOU would go ape-shit crazy and blame Obama for creating a police state and kidnapping your kid.

It doesn't matter what the "clock" was. What it wasn't was a bomb, or even a fake bomb. The reaction from both sides was overblown stupidity and politically motivated. Yeah, if it was suspicious and they should have investigated it. But, it was handled wrong...and reaction to that wrong also went too far.


NEGATIVE! I'd ask my kid after he's out of custody what was he thinking and why did he think that it would be a good idea to assemble something that could be mistaken as a dangerous weapon. Duh! I bet you're the type who throws a hissy fit at the airport when going through security too, right? Yeah I bet all those people who died on 9/11 wished airport security would have intercepted the terrorists before they boarded the planes between the time they figured out that planes were hijacked up until they crashed.

So what you're saying is Obutthole and Hildabiotch praised the kid, not for disassembling an old radio shack clock, but to make him feel better since he was detained. Wonderful. Hey give the little shithead a Nobel Pease prize. They hand those out like crackerjack toys anyways. Just ask Obutthole. He got one for just showing up to the WH. Since then, the Nobel Pease prize is worthless. It means absolutely nothing since they gave it to a community "organizer" who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:16 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Part of the problem was Obama's failure with Syria, and ISIS is all on Obama. Of course Obama has blamed everybody but himself. After all, it's not his fault his policies failed, it's everybody but him. One thing pointed out by a General, the majority of the refugees have been the men who should be staying to fight for their country. Unlike what Monker said, there were three sides fighting. Obama was going to back the wrong horse, like he did in Iraq. Obama favors Sunis, who are no friends of ours either.


Yep. B.O. was going around calling ISIS "junior varsity". He and those working in his administration way underestimated ISIS. It also seems that the citizens of these countries aren't interested in fighting their own battles. They have been so accustomed to other nations, mainly the U.S. doing it for them. All at astronomical financial and human costs to our country. This all stems from the fact that we shouldn't have gotten involved in these issues in the first place.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:43 am

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Part of the problem was Obama's failure with Syria, and ISIS is all on Obama. Of course Obama has blamed everybody but himself. After all, it's not his fault his policies failed, it's everybody but him. One thing pointed out by a General, the majority of the refugees have been the men who should be staying to fight for their country. Unlike what Monker said, there were three sides fighting. Obama was going to back the wrong horse, like he did in Iraq. Obama favors Sunis, who are no friends of ours either.


Yep. B.O. was going around calling ISIS "junior varsity". He and those working in his administration way underestimated ISIS. It also seems that the citizens of these countries aren't interested in fighting their own battles. They have been so accustomed to other nations, mainly the U.S. doing it for them. All at astronomical financial and human costs to our country. This all stems from the fact that we shouldn't have gotten involved in these issues in the first place.


No worries. Their BS default is it's "Bush's fault" or "The republicans did or would have done the same thing".
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:35 am

JBlake wrote:No worries. Their BS default is it's "Bush's fault" or "The republicans did or would have done the same thing".


You forgot, "The Republicans blocked our ability to make it happen".
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:44 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:My only problem with that Boomchild is, now it's spilling over here. As much as Obama wants to use "workplace violence",ect, it's here. The facts are, after 9/11, Bush kept us safe, BO failed. Just throw it on his pile of failures. Now it needs to be stopped. But as Obama proved, you can't just pull out and leave a vacume. Hell, we still have troops in Japan, Germany and Korea. Obama screwed up Lybia too.


So what is the solution then? Put in more military resources and lives to the situation? We have lost the ability to determine just who the enemy is. For decades and many administrations nothing has worked to try stabilize the region of the world. It's futile effort. The people that occupy that region of the world will never get along with each other. Perhaps our focus should be insulating the U.S, against the stream of terrorism that is coming our way.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:00 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:For starters, we could start listening to the military experts.
I'm afraid Obama has made it impossible not to send troops, not just to Iraq and Syria, but Lybia also. Keystone would be nice to drive oil prices down for the Middle East. The fat old hag came out against that today. Obama is hoping to kick the Middle East can to the next President. What a loser.


As far as listening to the Military, B.O. has either replaced or driven out those that do not share his vision of what role the military should play in our foreign affairs. So I don't know how much of a help that would be. Also our leaders and certain segments of the public can't stomach the facts of collateral damage when your fighting a war. So much so that it has effected the effectiveness of our military operations. Then you add in the whole profiling jitters. Honestly, I don't think that our military is equipped to handle the type of enemies we are trying to fight. So in my opinion no matter what plan is put forth we will be on the losing end of the fight. Unless we do massive carpet bombing of the active areas. All you need to do is look how the Russians failed in trying to control Afghanistan to see the end result.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:46 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:WOW! She couldn't even assemble a staff that could do this right.

http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-recovers-priv ... 45979.html


My money is on her doing this herself because a criminal don't usually trust anyone else (takes one to know one mentality).

Remember that cute little joke she told to her flock of misfits and idiots about wiping the server clean with like a tissue or something? She was pretty well satisfied that she wiped it completely out by reformatting. What to expect from 60's era hippy mentality clashing with modern day technology.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:50 am

Fact Finder wrote:GOP voters are ready to move into Trump Tower

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015 ... story.html


Guess they can't wait to lose the election.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:04 am

JBlake wrote:NEGATIVE! I'd ask my kid after he's out of custody what was he thinking and why did he think that it would be a good idea to assemble something that could be mistaken as a dangerous weapon.


What a horrible parent you are. You should be sterilized.

So what you're saying is Obutthole and Hildabiotch praised the kid, not for disassembling an old radio shack clock, but to make him feel better since he was detained.


No, I didn't comment on that at all. You shouldn't pay attention to the voices in your head...it's just your insanity creeping through.

They did it for politics, not other reason.
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