President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Monker]

Monker says," The Iran thing is NOT TRUE. The truth is Iran knew about the scientist before the Emails were even released. There was PUBLIC discussion about him as far back as 2010. This was not some secret spy who had his cover blown by Clinton's Emails...that is simply a made up fairy tale by Drudge, and a Tweet by Tweet-happy Trump the Traitor."

Wikleaks was the one to release the emails. Clinton was that stupid and sloppy, and outted a CIA agent. It's out there and it's true. After selling 25% of America's Uranium rights to Russia for pure Clinton proffit, Monker calls Trump a traitor.

Wikileaks released the Emails, Drudge reported that they referenced this scientist, Trump and you ran with it as fact.

Then the story died because it is made up bullshit in Trump's brain.

This scientist sought asylum in the US years ago because he was afraid for his life...and it was reported on in the news back then. Then he went back to Iran for some unknown reason...and ended up being executed. Iran knew about him for years. You can't "out" somebody to Iran that Iran already knew about.

[Monker]

You see J. Blake, Trump can't slip up. It's not allowed. Hillary can say,"I'm going to raise taxes on the middle class", well, that was a mistake. Trump isn't allowed that. It's called the liberal double standard. Of course Trump also doesn't have the laundry list of lies and Corruption investagations Hillary does either. Like I said, with liberals, it's Party before Country.

None of this is even true.

Clinton said in a speech, "...and we areN"T going to raise taxes on the middle class." Whoever does Trump's ads heard it wrong and made a commercial out of it. And, you bought into this, too.

You are so naive that in your effort to defend a Trump mistake, you point out another mistake he made. And, that is the PROBLEM....Trump makes incredibly STUPID mistakes on an almost DAILY basis.

[YoungJRNYfan]

When people take pride into being an American, they resort to the United States being the best country in the world and what our values were built on. Even then, when America was at its strongest, corruption ran large. Politics are built off of corruption. What makes you think Trump, with his incapability to do anything other than to blood-suck off of this countries values of being a multi billionaire in the first place, will disobey a system he's clearly apart of? If anything, his quick-twitch temper will only make it worse, putting his cabinet in charge of everything. The Trump Administration will blow the Bush Administration out of the water when it came to Dick Cheney stepping up in power-play situations from W being so illiterate.

Hillary is corrupt for devoting her entire life to politics and world affairs. It's a cruel place based off of cruel hard reality. She put her life dead center in the middle of all of that. It just so happens that Trump wants to be a savior when there IS none. The way this world is today, it doesn't surprise me Donald Trump is involved. It actually makes perfect sense. Rock bottom.

[Monker]

The liberals and demcraps are up in arms talking about Trump saying that second amendment rights people may do "something" about that smelly douche bag Hillary. He's saying that Second Amendment Rghts people really need to get out and vote? Hey Liberals and democraps, he's not saying for someone to go out and JFK the fucking bitch, as you are acting like.

You are wrong. It's not just Democrats and Liberals who "freaked out" about that comments. There was a form Secret Service agent who said on CNN that if somebody said that in the hall of his rally that they would have been arrested and question. This is about the same as going to an airport and making a joke about putting a bomb on your suitcase.

It was also NOT about rallying 2nd Amendment people to vote. Trump made up a scenario of Clinton be elected and appointing judges to the Supreme Court. That is AFTER the election.

Finally, I repeat this...a note from Dan Rather:

No trying-to-be objective and fair journalist, no citizen who cares about the country and its future can ignore what Donald Trump said today. When he suggested that "The Second Amendment People" can stop Hillary Clinton he crossed a line with dangerous potential. By any objective analysis, this is a new low and unprecedented in the history of American presidential politics. This is no longer about policy, civility, decency or even temperament. This is a direct threat of violence against a political rival. It is not just against the norms of American politics, it raises a serious question of whether it is against the law. If any other citizen had said this about a Presidential candidate, would the Secret Service be investigating?

Candidate Trump will undoubtably issue an explanation; some of his surrogates are already engaged in trying to gloss it over, but once the words are out there they cannot be taken back. That is what inciting violence means.

To anyone who still pretends this is a normal election of Republican against Democrat, history is watching. And I suspect its verdict will be harsh. Many have tried to do a side-shuffle and issue statements saying they strongly disagree with his rhetoric but still support the candidate. That is becoming woefully insufficient. The rhetoric is the candidate.

This cannot be treated as just another outrageous moment in the campaign. We will see whether major newscasts explain how grave and unprecedented this is and whether the headlines in tomorrow's newspapers do it justice. We will soon know whether anyone who has publicly supported Trump explains how they can continue to do.

We are a democratic republic governed by the rule of law. We are an honest, fair and decent people. In trying to come to terms with today's discouraging development the best I can do is to summon our greatest political poet Abraham Lincoln for perspective:

"We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

Lincoln used these stirring words to end his First Inaugural Address. It was the eve of the Civil War and sadly his call for sanity, cohesion and peace was met with horrific violence that almost left our precious Union asunder. We cannot let that happen again.

[Monker]

[JBlake]

When people take pride into being an American, they resort to the United States being the best country in the world and what our values were built on. Even then, when America was at its strongest, corruption ran large. Politics are built off of corruption. What makes you think Trump, with his incapability to do anything other than to blood-suck off of this countries values of being a multi billionaire in the first place, will disobey a system he's clearly apart of? If anything, his quick-twitch temper will only make it worse, putting his cabinet in charge of everything. The Trump Administration will blow the Bush Administration out of the water when it came to Dick Cheney stepping up in power-play situations from W being so illiterate.

Hillary is corrupt for devoting her entire life to politics and world affairs. It's a cruel place based off of cruel hard reality. She put her life dead center in the middle of all of that. It just so happens that Trump wants to be a savior when there IS none. The way this world is today, it doesn't surprise me Donald Trump is involved. It actually makes perfect sense. Rock bottom.

Not sure when the last time you were outside the US and hearing what citizens of other countries were saying about America and Americans, but they don't really have too much good to say anymore. America's turned into the laughing stock of the world. China laughs cause they make so much money of the US which only cost them peanuts in sweatshop salary. Look at Germany and their car industry. German cars make up nearly half of all car sales in the US. Yet Germany is only a little over half the size of the state of CA.

[Monker]

When people take pride into being an American, they resort to the United States being the best country in the world and what our values were built on. Even then, when America was at its strongest, corruption ran large. Politics are built off of corruption. What makes you think Trump, with his incapability to do anything other than to blood-suck off of this countries values of being a multi billionaire in the first place, will disobey a system he's clearly apart of? If anything, his quick-twitch temper will only make it worse, putting his cabinet in charge of everything. The Trump Administration will blow the Bush Administration out of the water when it came to Dick Cheney stepping up in power-play situations from W being so illiterate.

Hillary is corrupt for devoting her entire life to politics and world affairs. It's a cruel place based off of cruel hard reality. She put her life dead center in the middle of all of that. It just so happens that Trump wants to be a savior when there IS none. The way this world is today, it doesn't surprise me Donald Trump is involved. It actually makes perfect sense. Rock bottom.

If that is really how you feel then there is no reason to vote for either of them and you should vote for Johnson. What is the point of giving either of them your vote when you have such a low view of both of them? If you vote for Johnson, even if he loses, you are making the statement you want to make - that REAL change is needed. If you are voting for Clinton in a "Eh, I can deal with four more years of this...even if it sucks. At least it's better than a complete meltdown..." then you are really not voting FOR anything.

[YoungJRNYfan]

When people take pride into being an American, they resort to the United States being the best country in the world and what our values were built on. Even then, when America was at its strongest, corruption ran large. Politics are built off of corruption. What makes you think Trump, with his incapability to do anything other than to blood-suck off of this countries values of being a multi billionaire in the first place, will disobey a system he's clearly apart of? If anything, his quick-twitch temper will only make it worse, putting his cabinet in charge of everything. The Trump Administration will blow the Bush Administration out of the water when it came to Dick Cheney stepping up in power-play situations from W being so illiterate.

Hillary is corrupt for devoting her entire life to politics and world affairs. It's a cruel place based off of cruel hard reality. She put her life dead center in the middle of all of that. It just so happens that Trump wants to be a savior when there IS none. The way this world is today, it doesn't surprise me Donald Trump is involved. It actually makes perfect sense. Rock bottom.

Not sure when the last time you were outside the US and hearing what citizens of other countries were saying about America and Americans, but they don't really have too much good to say anymore. America's turned into the laughing stock of the world. China laughs cause they make so much money of the US which only cost them peanuts in sweatshop salary. Look at Germany and their car industry. German cars make up nearly half of all car sales in the US. Yet Germany is only a little over half the size of the state of CA.

That's why I said "Even then.." referring to yesteryear. I agree. We may very well be the laughing stock for more reasons than one. It is what it is but we gotta keep that propaganda alive.

[YoungJRNYfan]

When people take pride into being an American, they resort to the United States being the best country in the world and what our values were built on. Even then, when America was at its strongest, corruption ran large. Politics are built off of corruption. What makes you think Trump, with his incapability to do anything other than to blood-suck off of this countries values of being a multi billionaire in the first place, will disobey a system he's clearly apart of? If anything, his quick-twitch temper will only make it worse, putting his cabinet in charge of everything. The Trump Administration will blow the Bush Administration out of the water when it came to Dick Cheney stepping up in power-play situations from W being so illiterate.

Hillary is corrupt for devoting her entire life to politics and world affairs. It's a cruel place based off of cruel hard reality. She put her life dead center in the middle of all of that. It just so happens that Trump wants to be a savior when there IS none. The way this world is today, it doesn't surprise me Donald Trump is involved. It actually makes perfect sense. Rock bottom.

If that is really how you feel then there is no reason to vote for either of them and you should vote for Johnson. What is the point of giving either of them your vote when you have such a low view of both of them? If you vote for Johnson, even if he loses, you are making the statement you want to make - that REAL change is needed. If you are voting for Clinton in a "Eh, I can deal with four more years of this...even if it sucks. At least it's better than a complete meltdown..." then you are really not voting FOR anything.

I have my reasons to vote who I'm voting for. However, it may take me a little longer for me to get to the booths. My point about Hillary is that she falls in line with a corrupted system that existed since forever. No matter who the President of the United States is, that won't change. Hillary is under that much more of a microscope givin' her time in Washington. I accept that this world is a mean place and our politicians are in the middle of those decisions. I just think when it comes to qualifications, Trump should stay far away. I don't think he's capable to be apart of what it takes in foreign affairs.

[Jana]

Excerpts from NY Times article
Donald Trump’s Support Among Republican Women Starts to Slide

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/po ... .html?_r=0


Of all the tribulations facing Donald J. Trump, perhaps none is stirring as much anxiety inside his campaign as the precipitous decline of support from Republican women, an electoral cornerstone for the party’s past nominees that is starting to crumble.

In a striking series of defections, high-profile Republican women are abandoning decades of party loyalty and vowing to oppose Mr. Trump, calling him emotionally unfit for the presidency and a menace to national security.

But even more powerfully, his support from regular Republican women is falling after Mr. Trump’s provocative remarks about everything from the silence of the mother of a slain Muslim soldier to how women should respond to sexual harassment in the workplace.

“For people like me, who are Republican but reasonable and still have our brains attached, it’s hard to see Trump as a reasonable, sane Republican,” said Dina Vela, a project manager in San Antonio who said she had always voted Republican and remained wary of Hillary Clinton. But to her own surprise, she has started visiting Mrs. Clinton’s campaign website and plans to vote for her.

Since the two parties held their nominating conventions, Mr. Trump’s lead over Mrs. Clinton with Republican women voters has declined by 13 percentage points, according to polls conducted by The New York Times and CBS News.

In late July, 72 percent of Republican women said they would vote for Mr. Trump, a healthy majority, but far below the level won by the past three Republican presidential nominees. In 2012, Mitt Romney won 93 percent of Republican women. In 2008, John McCain won 89 percent, and four years earlier, George W. Bush won 93 percent.

"In politically moderate swing states like Pennsylvania, which aides to Mr. Trump say are crucial to his victory, Mr. Trump’s standing with women over all is perilously low among registered voters: Just 27 percent of women back him, compared with 58 percent for Mrs. Clinton, according to a poll by Franklin & Marshall College."


"Republican pollsters have long relied on a simple benchmark for their presidential candidates: They must win at least 90 percent of Republicans to capture the White House. But with some polls showing Mr. Trump struggling to attract even 75 percent of Republican women, that could prove an impossible task."

"“It’s an unusually poor showing,” said Whit Ayres, a pollster who worked for Marco Rubio’s presidential campaign. “There are not enough men to counterbalance it.”

[JBlake]

When people take pride into being an American, they resort to the United States being the best country in the world and what our values were built on. Even then, when America was at its strongest, corruption ran large. Politics are built off of corruption. What makes you think Trump, with his incapability to do anything other than to blood-suck off of this countries values of being a multi billionaire in the first place, will disobey a system he's clearly apart of? If anything, his quick-twitch temper will only make it worse, putting his cabinet in charge of everything. The Trump Administration will blow the Bush Administration out of the water when it came to Dick Cheney stepping up in power-play situations from W being so illiterate.

Hillary is corrupt for devoting her entire life to politics and world affairs. It's a cruel place based off of cruel hard reality. She put her life dead center in the middle of all of that. It just so happens that Trump wants to be a savior when there IS none. The way this world is today, it doesn't surprise me Donald Trump is involved. It actually makes perfect sense. Rock bottom.

If that is really how you feel then there is no reason to vote for either of them and you should vote for Johnson. What is the point of giving either of them your vote when you have such a low view of both of them? If you vote for Johnson, even if he loses, you are making the statement you want to make - that REAL change is needed. If you are voting for Clinton in a "Eh, I can deal with four more years of this...even if it sucks. At least it's better than a complete meltdown..." then you are really not voting FOR anything.

I have my reasons to vote who I'm voting for. However, it may take me a little longer for me to get to the booths. My point about Hillary is that she falls in line with a corrupted system that existed since forever. No matter who the President of the United States is, that won't change. Hillary is under that much more of a microscope givin' her time in Washington. I accept that this world is a mean place and our politicians are in the middle of those decisions. I just think when it comes to qualifications, Trump should stay far away. I don't think he's capable to be apart of what it takes in foreign affairs.

Sure it's never going to change if all you do is say "it is what it is" but do nothing to change it. Trump's different then Hillary in that aspect. He's going to try and change it. Hillary will just keep Bama's ball rolling.

[JBlake]

Excerpts from NY Times article
Donald Trump’s Support Among Republican Women Starts to Slide

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/po ... .html?_r=0


Of all the tribulations facing Donald J. Trump, perhaps none is stirring as much anxiety inside his campaign as the precipitous decline of support from Republican women, an electoral cornerstone for the party’s past nominees that is starting to crumble.

In a striking series of defections, high-profile Republican women are abandoning decades of party loyalty and vowing to oppose Mr. Trump, calling him emotionally unfit for the presidency and a menace to national security.

But even more powerfully, his support from regular Republican women is falling after Mr. Trump’s provocative remarks about everything from the silence of the mother of a slain Muslim soldier to how women should respond to sexual harassment in the workplace.

“For people like me, who are Republican but reasonable and still have our brains attached, it’s hard to see Trump as a reasonable, sane Republican,” said Dina Vela, a project manager in San Antonio who said she had always voted Republican and remained wary of Hillary Clinton. But to her own surprise, she has started visiting Mrs. Clinton’s campaign website and plans to vote for her.

Since the two parties held their nominating conventions, Mr. Trump’s lead over Mrs. Clinton with Republican women voters has declined by 13 percentage points, according to polls conducted by The New York Times and CBS News.

In late July, 72 percent of Republican women said they would vote for Mr. Trump, a healthy majority, but far below the level won by the past three Republican presidential nominees. In 2012, Mitt Romney won 93 percent of Republican women. In 2008, John McCain won 89 percent, and four years earlier, George W. Bush won 93 percent.

"In politically moderate swing states like Pennsylvania, which aides to Mr. Trump say are crucial to his victory, Mr. Trump’s standing with women over all is perilously low among registered voters: Just 27 percent of women back him, compared with 58 percent for Mrs. Clinton, according to a poll by Franklin & Marshall College."


"Republican pollsters have long relied on a simple benchmark for their presidential candidates: They must win at least 90 percent of Republicans to capture the White House. But with some polls showing Mr. Trump struggling to attract even 75 percent of Republican women, that could prove an impossible task."

"“It’s an unusually poor showing,” said Whit Ayres, a pollster who worked for Marco Rubio’s presidential campaign. “There are not enough men to counterbalance it.”

Republican women, as in who? Meg Whitman for one? Not sure if you've deal with ebay but I hate that fucking rip off. Sell something on it and ebay nickel and dimes you for every little thing. Sell something on there and after all the fees and cost associated with it, you'll be lucky to only get 60%-70% of what you sold it for. If Meg Whitman doesn't like Trump that tells me he's spot on.

[JBlake]

Travis, after seeing what has transpired in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran etc..how anyone can say Hill is a Foreign Affairs expert is beyond my comprehension.

Now to the important stuff, get that Pigskin Pickem set back up.

Yeah, I really enjoyed when Paul asked her specific questions in which she replied that she would have to ask others within the organization for the answers. What a dumb bitch, she was SOS and should have those answers if she was effectively fulfilling that position. Simply put the bitch was effectively ineffective as SOS.

Who the fuck would want this bitch to be the POTUS is beyond stupidity!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0nTKS5V2s

[YoungJRNYfan]

Travis, after seeing what has transpired in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran etc..how anyone can say Hill is a Foreign Affairs expert is beyond my comprehension.

I didn't say she was an expert. Far from it. The jury is out on Hill. What she did was an abomination. A felony and it probably got a lot of people involved killed. It probably happens behind enemy lines more often than we would think. These government operations I would imagine are twisted beyond what our sense of blinded freedom tells us. Trump still think he's on Celebrity Apprentice. To say Trump is an expert at anything is beyond my comprehension but hey, that's politics for yah. After all, they are the reason why this is one of the toughest elections to pin-point in a long time...and also one of the most embarrassing.

Now to the important stuff, get that Pigskin Pickem set back up.

Right around the corner brotherin!

[Jana]

Excerpts from NY Times article
Donald Trump’s Support Among Republican Women Starts to Slide

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/po ... .html?_r=0


Of all the tribulations facing Donald J. Trump, perhaps none is stirring as much anxiety inside his campaign as the precipitous decline of support from Republican women, an electoral cornerstone for the party’s past nominees that is starting to crumble.

In a striking series of defections, high-profile Republican women are abandoning decades of party loyalty and vowing to oppose Mr. Trump, calling him emotionally unfit for the presidency and a menace to national security.

But even more powerfully, his support from regular Republican women is falling after Mr. Trump’s provocative remarks about everything from the silence of the mother of a slain Muslim soldier to how women should respond to sexual harassment in the workplace.

“For people like me, who are Republican but reasonable and still have our brains attached, it’s hard to see Trump as a reasonable, sane Republican,” said Dina Vela, a project manager in San Antonio who said she had always voted Republican and remained wary of Hillary Clinton. But to her own surprise, she has started visiting Mrs. Clinton’s campaign website and plans to vote for her.

Since the two parties held their nominating conventions, Mr. Trump’s lead over Mrs. Clinton with Republican women voters has declined by 13 percentage points, according to polls conducted by The New York Times and CBS News.

In late July, 72 percent of Republican women said they would vote for Mr. Trump, a healthy majority, but far below the level won by the past three Republican presidential nominees. In 2012, Mitt Romney won 93 percent of Republican women. In 2008, John McCain won 89 percent, and four years earlier, George W. Bush won 93 percent.

"In politically moderate swing states like Pennsylvania, which aides to Mr. Trump say are crucial to his victory, Mr. Trump’s standing with women over all is perilously low among registered voters: Just 27 percent of women back him, compared with 58 percent for Mrs. Clinton, according to a poll by Franklin & Marshall College."


"Republican pollsters have long relied on a simple benchmark for their presidential candidates: They must win at least 90 percent of Republicans to capture the White House. But with some polls showing Mr. Trump struggling to attract even 75 percent of Republican women, that could prove an impossible task."

"“It’s an unusually poor showing,” said Whit Ayres, a pollster who worked for Marco Rubio’s presidential campaign. “There are not enough men to counterbalance it.”

Republican women, as in who? Meg Whitman for one? Not sure if you've deal with ebay but I hate that fucking rip off. Sell something on it and ebay nickel and dimes you for every little thing. Sell something on there and after all the fees and cost associated with it, you'll be lucky to only get 60%-70% of what you sold it for. If Meg Whitman doesn't like Trump that tells me he's spot on.

You're missing the point. He's spot on? That's a myopic mindset, not looking at the statistics in that article. It's not what you believe. I wasn't trying to convert you. It's about what is happening with a demographic within your party. This is about his chances of winning the election, right? Then how is losing Republican female voters helping him gain the White House? That's what the article is about, not one specific woman that you focused on in that article.. Re-read the article. It's about how much ground he's losing with Republican women voters and how that hurts his chances even further for the White House. You don't find that concerning regarding your candidate?

""Republican pollsters have long relied on a simple benchmark for their presidential candidates: They must win at least 90 percent of Republicans to capture the White House. But with some polls showing Mr. Trump struggling to attract even 75 percent of Republican women, that could prove an impossible task."

"Since the two parties held their nominating conventions, Mr. Trump’s lead over Mrs. Clinton with Republican women voters has declined by 13 percentage points, according to polls conducted by The New York Times and CBS News."

[JBlake]

Jana, the Media, the polls show Trump falling. The Trump rallies are sold out everywhere. After all, no one is photoshopping Trumps crowds like they are Clintons. Making thousands of people out of 141 in Florida. Remember, "Trump was not in this, he'll quit"." Trump is in this to make Republicans look stupid, then he'll drop out". "Trump won't win"? I wish Trump hadn't won, but he did. I find him much easier to vote for then a proven lying, bought and paid for idiot that had an election rigged and screwed Sanders voters. I'd rather have Trump in the White House then a Family that sold out 25% of our uranuim rights to Russia for personal proffit, you know, the Clintons.

Classic isn't it. The liberal Democrap media purposely excludes, alters, etc. anything and everything that goes against their agenda and then their "followers" cite that excluded, altered, etc. information as being the reason Trump is/will lose.

Funny shit too cause yesterday Clinton "sounded the alarm" on the fact that Trump generated far more donations then they had expected in a month. What alarm are they going to sound when Trump generates far more votes then they expected?

[JBlake]

Hot topic in the news now is the Obamacare failure. Obamacare is like Herpes, its the gift that just keeps on giving.

And notice how "minorities" have anywhere from 5 to 8 kids in each family but have no real job but the people who were actually born in the US can only afford 2 to 3 kids comfortably working a good paying job because from conception to 18 years of age, kids will cost on average $250K apiece.

[scarab]

democrips or repbloodicans will never fix what is wrong with this country. a vote for neither is a vote for America

[Jana]

Jana, the Media, the polls show Trump falling. The Trump rallies are sold out everywhere. After all, no one is photoshopping Trumps crowds like they are Clintons. Making thousands of people out of 141 in Florida. Remember, "Trump was not in this, he'll quit"." Trump is in this to make Republicans look stupid, then he'll drop out". "Trump won't win"? I wish Trump hadn't won, but he did. I find him much easier to vote for then a proven lying, bought and paid for idiot that had an election rigged and screwed Sanders voters. I'd rather have Trump in the White House then a Family that sold out 25% of our uranuim rights to Russia for personal proffit, you know, the Clintons.

Fox's poll showed him down. It's not made-up polls. I never said he doesn't have a devoted base supporting him. That won't get him there, and the fact is he's losing people that were going to vote for him. It's not made up. This is an election and you can't ignore the facts, what is happening to his campaign from early summer to now, and he's doing it to himself.

I never worried if John McCain ran the country or Mitt Romney if Obama lost, because they were capable and qualified to be POTUS. I did worry if McCain died and incompetent grifter Sarah Palin was POTUS, though.

Trump is not sane. It's clear to see. He is a thin-skinned, misogynistic, racist bully, who is incapable of governing our country. The Orange Man-Baby terrifies me. It's not even about left or right when I say that. I say that with all sincerity. And, obviously, many high-ranking Republicans feel that way to err on the side of losing the race and Hillary being in office or just acting on their own conscience for the good of the country by saying he is not fit to be president. It is unprecedented to see what is happening within the Republican Party. He could do harm to this country. In interviews, he sounds like a third-grader.

[Jana]

I just love hit and run posters. What's it been Jana, 4 years? Who's next to come flying out of the ether, Behshad?

Not a hit and run. I was at work all day. I'll be back on this thread. Someone needs to be the voice of reason.

Believe it or not, I am glad you are back, wish Behshad was back as well. Hope all is well with you.

Thanks, FF. I hope you enjoyed your Florida vacation even with this horrible humidity.

[Monker]

Trump's different then Hillary in that aspect. He's going to try and change it. Hillary will just keep Bama's ball rolling.

Trump is different than Hillary because he could start WWIII because Putin tweeted that Trump is an asshole.

And, of course, he has much smaller hands.

[Monker]

Sure it's never going to change if all you do is say "it is what it is" but do nothing to change it. Trump's different then Hillary in that aspect. He's going to try and change it. Hillary will just keep Bama's ball rolling.

If people want "change" but are so offended by Hillary, than they should vote for Johnson. He is really the only sane option for real change. If you four more years of Obama like policies, then vote for Hillary.

If you want the total destruction of the Earth because the wrong person said he has tiny hands, then vote for Trump.

[Monker]

You see, monker does not care if you vote for Clinton or Johnson because it will be the same thing.

Yes, it does make a difference...a big difference.

You are just all upset that he is so against Trump. Poor you. :'(

[Monker]

Travis, after seeing what has transpired in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran etc..how anyone can say Hill is a Foreign Affairs expert is beyond my comprehension.

Now to the important stuff, get that Pigskin Pickem set back up.

And, believing a Republican Presidency like W's would have done any different is hypcrisy in the highest form. With the evidence of Iraq and Afghanistan, Republicans would have done a LOT worse.

[Monker]

democrips or repbloodicans will never fix what is wrong with this country. a vote for neither is a vote for America

And, a vote for nobody doesn't count for anybody. A vote for Johnson is a vote that actually accounts for something.

[Monker]

Fox's poll showed him down. It's not made-up polls.

If you go back a few pages, you will find a post where they say all of the polls are intentionally leaning Democrat. It's a grand conspiracy of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, etc...and it was "predicted" on the Wednesday of the Democrat convention....you know, after all the bullshit Email crap was being ignored and pretty evident that the Democrat party was going to emerge very united. Some conservative site predicted Clinton would get a big bounce from it (duh!) but it was because of a huge conspiracy of all the polling wanting to show Clinton being way ahead.

I mean, come on. It's a bunch of bullshit. And, that's being nice about it.

I never said he doesn't have a devoted base supporting him. That won't get him there, and the fact is he's losing people that were going to vote for him. It's not made up. This is an election and you can't ignore the facts, what is happening to his campaign from early summer to now, and he's doing it to himself.

They are in denial....very, very deep denial. The Trump campaign is a joke. He was not the candidate they wanted him to be. I don't know what they expected, or what they think he is beyond, "somebody who is not establishment and on the outside of government." Because, beyond that, well, he is a complete disaster.

I never worried if John McCain ran the country or Mitt Romney if Obama lost, because they were capable and qualified to be POTUS. I did worry if McCain died and incompetent grifter Sarah Palin was POTUS, though.

Are you worried that Trump has said that Sarah Palin will be in his cabinet? There was so much other Trump crap going on that this one got ignored. I wonder how he would backtrack that one...." Oh, no, I didn't mean as a presidential adviser. I meant I want her in my cabinet....you know, beside my cookie jar."

Trump is not sane. It's clear to see. He is a thin-skinned, misogynistic, racist bully, who is incapable of governing our country.

He is also a narcissist. I think that's his biggest problem....he has a narcissist personality disorder. And, I am not just being mean, or whatever, I really think he does.

In interviews, he sounds like a third-grader.

Yep, I've been saying for a long time that he is not as smart as people think he is. I don't care what schools he went to. His brain is not as good as he thinks it is.

[Monker]

The story died, like dozens of others, because the "Media" ignored it. Clinton gets another pass.

"Media" --- even biased conservative media -- started ignoring this because it is BULLSHIT. You have your head so far up your own ass you can't see, you don't want to see it. It makes trump a LIAR.

Just as he is now lying in his rallies that Clinton said she will raise taxes on the middle class. That is NOT what she said - it is a LIE.

Just like you really have to search to find the story I posted a few pages back about the DNC member who outted Shultz and the rigged election being shot to death in his front yard at 4:13 A.M., on his way to a FBI investagation for questioning". If Trump have had the RNC rig his election like Clinton did, you'd be bitching to high heaven.

Well, look what just popped up on yahoo.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/julian-assan ... 00062.html

So what. It isn't Clinton's fault every time somebody dies. It's just more crazy conspiracy theories. I spose Clinton is to blame for TNC not being here, Deen's death, and Steve Perry's hip. Get over it already.

[Boomchild]

Seriously,what the fuck has this shit come to?

There's a simple answer to that. Your government has been stolen from you.

[Boomchild]

Trump is different than Hillary because he could start WWIII because Putin tweeted that Trump is an asshole.

And, of course, he has much smaller hands.

Like Putin's opinion of Obama is much better then that. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin thinks Obama is an idiot. If one has a choice of being considered an idiot or an asshole, I think I would take being considered an asshole. So much for the Putin Trump connection the media was so desperately trying to make.

[Boomchild]

Seriously,what the fuck has this shit come to?

There's a simple answer to that. Your government has been stolen from you.

Your money too!

You mean that green paper people exchange with each other. It's been worthless for a long time now. An economy based on fiat currency is a fool's economy. It will always collapse.