They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

The list is from the prior admin. Would you like SA and Egypt to be added? I would. My understanding is the state dept. doesn't consider SA to be a state sponsor of terror.

Good point. I would like to add, did the Obama administration consider Saudi Arabia a "state sponsor of terrorism"? No. Also seems to me Hillary has been pretty chummy with them. Then you have the Obama administration sending pallets of U.S. cash to a known and labeled "state sponsor of terrorism". But hey that's okey-dokey form some.

Sure it is. Founders spoke of peace and friendship with foreign allies. Not subsidizing their defenses.

Wasn't George Washington that warned us about getting involved in other country's affairs?

[Boomchild]

Oh FFS Boom relax the hell up. It was a joke. Did you not see the smiley there?
Funny, a guy who voted for Trump talking about 'diplomatic resolve'. hilarious.

How very passive aggressive of you. It reminds of all those ANTIFA rioters who don full face masks to hide their identity. There has been far more violent rhetoric and events carried out by those that oppose Trump then those that were against Clinton, Sanders et al.

He's a scumbag to me and many others that've actually had dealings with him.

Name them.

If he DOES get impeached, I'm sure you'll say that it was all Fake News.

Again, NAME THE CRIME.

As for Obama, to me the guy was nothing but class. I didn't agree with all of his policies, but he was an honorable guy trying to do good. I also thought that he helped the world view of the US.

Gee who could of guessed this statement? A Honorable Commander in Chief doesn't "go to bed" when one of their embassy is under attack with U.S. citizen's mortal lives are in danger.

It's not the fact that Trump is a republican (you know, those folks that he himself called completely stupid) it's the fact that it's Donald Trump.

This statement by itself shows just how clueless you are about who Trump is.

[Boomchild]

[brywool]

The repubs of yesterday are much different than the repubs of today. Everyone knows this. I had nothing to do with it, so not sure what your point is.

[brywool]

And no matter what anyone says, you're still going to think Don is the guy for you.
There ya go - thanks for replying to what you like about him (I still hope he gets run out of office by a herd of torches and pitch forks and that photos emerge of him and Vlad oiling each other up).

As I have said the point of discussing these things with you is moot. You have your positions and opinions and that is fine. Now just imagine if people were to say they would have liked to see Obama run out of office with "pitch forks and torches". Oh the bigot and racist cries would be a plenty. By your statement, you don't want diplomatic resolve to his election to office you want violence and anarchy. Thank you for exposing your true nature.

It's like trying to educate a brick Boomchild. A waste of time. The only thing he is going to believe is MSNBC.

Jeez KC, you're like Judy Hensler in the old Beaver series. Someone will say something that you can't think of on your own and then you'll go 'YEAH!' and stick out your tongue and walk away.

At least Boomchild actually answered the questions I asked (as did TNC). I could care less if we agree or not. I like talking politics. I like talking music. As Boomchild said, no amount of talking is going to convince someone that believes what they believe. I agree with that point (and said so). Oh well. My original reply was meant to you, but Boomchild answered. Maybe that's because you couldn't, I dunno.

Oh yeah.... Nice to see Exxon just got nailed for violating the sanctions on Russia and was fined 2 Million while under the watch of the current Head of the EPA. HAHA.

Wow, what IS it with this admin and Russia?

Now he's nominated a former TALK SHOW HOST with no background in Science or Agriculture as the head of the USDA.
Really? Really?

Every day, it just gets to be so much more WINNING with these guys.

Anyway, have fun with your guy. Done talking about it.

[Monker]

My God, you obviously know absolutely nothing about IT or how complex systems work.

I figured you would say that to cover up your idiocy. Tell me again how it spread on a "connected system" but doesn't need the internet.

You are so clueless that I feel like I'm talking to a 12yr old. I did not reply to that bit because it is so ignorant of you to ask that it would take far to long to explain. But, whatever.

At work, I log on to my laptop. My laptop has NO access to the internet. It is that way INTENTIONALLY. But, when I log in, I also log in to corporate LAN. That gives me access to various systems connected to the LAN, the payroll service, Email service, various systems that I need to develop applications.

Therefore, if I plug in a USB drive that has Stuxnet, it will infect my laptop and eventually spread to all system connected to that laptop. Also, if I take the laptop home and connect it to the internet and get infected by Stuxnet and then take it back to work, it would also infect the connected systems.

Therefore, if one of those systems was the control system for the centrifuges, it would be infected without ever being exposed to the internet. If one of those systems was used to load software into the voting machines, it would get infected and eventually the voting machines as well.

You sound like Senator Ted Stevens describing the web as "a series of tubes."

And, you sound like a layman who does not know the difference between the internet, intranet, and a LAN, and how they are used in business...Or, my God, how a LAN is used in PC gaming, or connecting X-Boxes together.

I am making perfect sense - you are just too ignorant to understand.

Wait. Hold up. Just earlier you said the idea of it being a thumb drive was "making up stories." The fact of the matter is, nearly all accounts of the Stuxnet/Iran story say it was spread via a thumb drive. As with everything else, you have no clue.

I said it would spread to various media...that includes USB Drives, CD, DVD's R/W, Blu-Ray R/W, externam hard drives, portable hard drives. Or, as I said above, a corporate laptop taken home. Or, an Email phishing scheme.

All of these are made up stories.

But, MY POINT is that once delivered, that given system DOES NOT NEED TO BE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET. Period. That given system could be the control system for the centrifuges, or it could be the control system that loads the software for voting machines.

In order to spread throughout other machines, it would. Otherwise, you are talking about Russian agents tampering with memory cards of individual machines.

You are absolutely WRONG. See my first comments above. In fact, if things were connected to the internet, there would be no need for a USB Drive.

If you do not believe that this is possible, you are INCREDIBLY NAIVE and think you know shit that you obviously are completely ignorant of.

Nah, I believe in facts.[/quote]

No, you don't. You have no idea what you are talking about and you believe in the stuff you are just making up as you go. Those "alternative facts" (lies) are the basis for your "alternative" reality (fantasy) which you believe is based on "facts". You fuhrer does the exact same thing...and that is a HUGE problem. Trump is a nut and so are his t-Virus infected zombie followers.

There were limited recounts of the election (see Pennsylvania and Wisconsin), the results don't back you up. Furthermore, officials pushing the Russia collusion myth all agree that voter tallies were not impacted.

I never said this happened in the election. In fact I said it didn't. YOU said infecting voting machines with a virus was impossible. I said it wasn't, and it isn't impossible. In fact, I would be very surprised if Russia isn't using Stuxnet and trying to modify it to do exactly what I am saying. All it has to do is take every 10th vote for a (D) and change it to an (R)...that would move 10% of the vote and almost guarantee a win for the Republicans.

[Monker]

If he DOES get impeached, I'm sure you'll say that it was all Fake News.

Again, NAME THE CRIME.

Impeachment has nothing to do with the law and "crime". It is a political process and decision.

I think the crime is he has yellow hair, orange skin, and tiny hands. IMPEACH...he's an alien from Mars!

Or, he colluded with Russia, obstructed justice, and abused his power as President. Possibly treason, but unlikely.

[Monker]

My understanding is the state dept. doesn't consider SA to be a state sponsor of terror.

Or, they are the state sponsor of 2/3 (or whatever) of the total worldwide oil reserves.

[Boomchild]

[The_Noble_Cause]

You are so clueless that I feel like I'm talking to a 12yr old. I did not reply to that bit because it is so ignorant of you to ask that it would take far to long to explain. But, whatever.

You are such a cyber expert that you naively think malware can be traced to a nation state. This has been ridiculed by all sorts of actual computer programmers like McAfee and shot to complete shit by the Wikileaks CIA hacking revelations. You have no credibility on anything. Reminder - you are the same guy that said Hillary had permission to use a private server.

At work, I log on to my laptop. My laptop has NO access to the internet. It is that way INTENTIONALLY. But, when I log in, I also log in to corporate LAN. That gives me access to various systems connected to the LAN, the payroll service, Email service, various systems that I need to develop applications. Therefore, if I plug in a USB drive that has Stuxnet, it will infect my laptop and eventually spread to all system connected to that laptop

First off, congrats on the promotion to shift lead at Dairy Queen. I’m glad that under the thriving Trump economy you have secured new employment and are no longer washing your ass in the Starbucks public restroom between tricks.

Now, a few things...

In many cases, vote tabulation machines are separate from the actual voting booths.
In the US, we use almost 30 types of different voting machines spread over 3,000 jurisdictions.
There is no one centralized system.

Initially you said the idea of using a USB to spread the Stuxnet was “making up stories.” Now it is the center piece of your red string conspiracy wall. Please make up your mind.

Therefore, if I plug in a USB drive that has Stuxnet, it will infect my laptop and eventually spread to all system connected to that laptop.
Also, if I take the laptop home and connect it to the internet and get infected by Stuxnet and then take it back to work, it would also infect the connected systems.

So again, your theory would require Russian agents to be tampering with the actual hardware of the machines. Which is what I said from the very beginning. It’s too ridiculous to even be considered.

Therefore, if one of those systems was the control system for the centrifuges, it would be infected without ever being exposed to the internet. If one of those systems was used to load software into the voting machines, it would get infected and eventually the voting machines as well.

Wow. So the county clerks that installed the software are working for Russia now too?

And, you sound like a layman who does not know the difference between the internet, intranet, and a LAN, and how they are used in business...Or, my God, how a LAN is used in PC gaming, or connecting X-Boxes together.

Yet you are the guy comparing voting booths to everything from nuclear centrifuges to now X-boxes. Pretty obvious which of us is grasping at straws.

No, you don't. You have no idea what you are talking about and you believe in the stuff you are just making up as you go.

No, I’ve just read multiple studies on the possibility of vote hacking. In nearly every case, physical access to the machine is necessary.

Those "alternative facts" (lies) are the basis for your "alternative" reality (fantasy) which you believe is based on "facts".

If these facts are such easily disprovable lies, why can’t you refute them? Here they are again:

-Cybertech firm, Crowdstrike, changing their findings on the hacked DNC server.
-Crowdstrike/DNC not permitting servers to be examined by the gov't.
-17 intel agencies changed to 4
-ODNI report blaming Russia Today shows that were not even on the air.
- Russia hacking Macron later denied by French gov't

You fuhrer does the exact same thing...and that is a HUGE problem.

And nothing says "winning argument" like Hitler references!

In fact, I would be very surprised if Russia isn't using Stuxnet and trying to modify it to do exactly what I am saying.All it has to do is take every 10th vote for a (D) and change it to an (R)...that would move 10% of the vote and almost guarantee a win for the Republicans .

You mean the same Russia that publicly and openly preferred Obama’s re-election to Romney? They hack that one too? You gullible dumbass.

[Monker]

Now you are just acting like a child.

My entire career has been in IT and a real "computer programmer" (an antiquated title, software engineer is more modern) for 20yrs. If Mcaffee said a virus could not find its way to a voting machines, then that is just one more reason I would never load their software on my system STUPID.

The bottom line is you have no clue what you are talking about and have proved it to me MULTIPLE times. Now you are just doing the "I don't know shit but I can write insults" conversation...a conversation that is now over.

You are so clueless that I feel like I'm talking to a 12yr old. I did not reply to that bit because it is so ignorant of you to ask that it would take far to long to explain. But, whatever.

You are such a cyber expert that you naively think malware can be traced to a nation state. This has been ridiculed by all sorts of actual computer programmers like McAfee and shot to complete shit by the Wikileaks CIA hacking revelations. You have no credibility on anything. Reminder - you are the same guy that said Hillary had permission to use a private server.

At work, I log on to my laptop. My laptop has NO access to the internet. It is that way INTENTIONALLY. But, when I log in, I also log in to corporate LAN. That gives me access to various systems connected to the LAN, the payroll service, Email service, various systems that I need to develop applications. Therefore, if I plug in a USB drive that has Stuxnet, it will infect my laptop and eventually spread to all system connected to that laptop

First off, congrats on the promotion to shift lead at Dairy Queen. I’m glad that under the thriving Trump economy you have secured new employment and are no longer washing your ass in the Starbucks public restroom between tricks.

Now, a few things...

In many cases, vote tabulation machines are separate from the actual voting booths.
In the US, we use almost 30 types of different voting machines spread over 3,000 jurisdictions.
There is no one centralized system.

Initially you said the idea of using a USB to spread the Stuxnet was “making up stories.” Now it is the center piece of your red string conspiracy wall. Please make up your mind.

Therefore, if I plug in a USB drive that has Stuxnet, it will infect my laptop and eventually spread to all system connected to that laptop.
Also, if I take the laptop home and connect it to the internet and get infected by Stuxnet and then take it back to work, it would also infect the connected systems.

So again, your theory would require Russian agents to be tampering with the actual hardware of the machines. Which is what I said from the very beginning. It’s too ridiculous to even be considered.

Therefore, if one of those systems was the control system for the centrifuges, it would be infected without ever being exposed to the internet. If one of those systems was used to load software into the voting machines, it would get infected and eventually the voting machines as well.

Wow. So the county clerks that installed the software are working for Russia now too?

And, you sound like a layman who does not know the difference between the internet, intranet, and a LAN, and how they are used in business...Or, my God, how a LAN is used in PC gaming, or connecting X-Boxes together.

Yet you are the guy comparing voting booths to everything from nuclear centrifuges to now X-boxes. Pretty obvious which of us is grasping at straws.

No, you don't. You have no idea what you are talking about and you believe in the stuff you are just making up as you go.

No, I’ve just read multiple studies on the possibility of vote hacking. In nearly every case, physical access to the machine is necessary.

Those "alternative facts" (lies) are the basis for your "alternative" reality (fantasy) which you believe is based on "facts".

If these facts are such easily disprovable lies, why can’t you refute them? Here they are again:

-Cybertech firm, Crowdstrike, changing their findings on the hacked DNC server.
-Crowdstrike/DNC not permitting servers to be examined by the gov't.
-17 intel agencies changed to 4
-ODNI report blaming Russia Today shows that were not even on the air.
- Russia hacking Macron later denied by French gov't

You fuhrer does the exact same thing...and that is a HUGE problem.

And nothing says "winning argument" like Hitler references!

In fact, I would be very surprised if Russia isn't using Stuxnet and trying to modify it to do exactly what I am saying.All it has to do is take every 10th vote for a (D) and change it to an (R)...that would move 10% of the vote and almost guarantee a win for the Republicans .

You mean the same Russia that publicly and openly preferred Obama’s re-election to Romney? They hack that one too? You gullible dumbass.

[Monker]

This is some good stuff. Repeal and replace.

http://naturalnews.com/2017-07-06-ted-c ... eedom.html

Yeah, waste a few more months on this, PLEASE! It's not even DOA, it's dead before it even arrives.

[Boomchild]

In many cases, vote tabulation machines are separate from the actual voting booths.
In the US, we use almost 30 types of different voting machines spread over 3,000 jurisdictions. There is no one centralized system.

When I lived in Delaware, they had electronic voting machines in the voting booths. In PA where I am now, they hand you a paper ballot to fill out and when completed you take it a person who inserts it into a voting tabulation machine which optically scans the paper ballot. I also remember seeing a report that said in Detroit more ballots were cast then registered voters. That was a area where Hillary won by a large margin. So if Russia was trying to "hack" the election there for Trump, they got that one wrong. Frankly, I think it's far more likely that someone from our own "election system" could manipulate votes then an outside country or nation. It seems that those that are thinking that Russia actually "hacked" our voting systems are also against voter ID laws. Because low income persons don't have and cannot afford an ID. But somehow they are able to furnish the same type of ID to apply for and obtain benefits from our entitlement programs.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Now you are just acting like a child.

My entire career has been in IT and a real "computer programmer" (an antiquated title, software engineer is more modern) for 20yrs. If Mcaffee said a virus could not find its way to a voting machines, then that is just one more reason I would never load their software on my system STUPID.

You can say you are whatever you want. I have been here for close to 20 years now. I still remember when Froy (or maybe it was Journey Troll) exposed your identity, you went absolutely apeshit. I have friends that are actual coders and hackers. None have bought the Russia hacking narrative AT ALL.

The bottom line is you have no clue what you are talking about and have proved it to me MULTIPLE times.

First you said that USB was not used in Stuxnet. That was a total lie. The idea that voting booths in American can be hacked without access to the memory cards or the hardware is also a total lie.

Now you are just doing the "I don't know shit but I can write insults" conversation...a conversation that is now over.

In other words, you tried to disseminate bullshit but it didn't work, so now you run a way like the bitch you are.
Not the first time either....
Hey Monker -ever find out who the staffer was that Team Hillary fired for starting the Birther rumors?
Could you explain again how Donna Brazille was just doing her job giving Hillary debate questions in advance?
Tell me again how Trump Jr met with a big bad scary Russian military officer - when, in fact, all Russian males are forced to serve in the military.
In just this small sample above, you were caught red handed doing the bidding of the DNC. You are a hack turd.

[The_Noble_Cause]

When I lived in Delaware, they had electronic voting machines in the voting booths. In PA where I am now, they hand you a paper ballot to fill out and when completed you take it a person who inserts it into a voting tabulation machine which optically scans the paper ballot. I also remember seeing a report that said in Detroit more ballots were cast then registered voters. That was a area where Hillary won by a large margin. So if Russia was trying to "hack" the election there for Trump, they got that one wrong. Frankly, I think it's far more likely that someone from our own "election system" could manipulate votes then an outside country or nation. It seems that those that are thinking that Russia actually "hacked" our voting systems are also against voter ID laws. Because low income persons don't have and cannot afford an ID. But somehow they are able to furnish the same type of ID to apply for and obtain benefits from our entitlement programs.

Boom, you'll notice that hysterical liberals, like Monker, whine alot about voter hacking and cyber hacking but never once propose any solutions.
They are against voter ID. And when our actual government, in the form of FDIC, was hacked they never declared it an act of war or demanded tougher cyber security measures. But now suddenly we are two believe that Podesta's email and the DNC emails are a national security issues? Give me a break.

[Monker]

This is some good stuff. Repeal and replace.

http://naturalnews.com/2017-07-06-ted-c ... eedom.html

Yeah, waste a few more months on this, PLEASE! It's not even DOA, it's dead before it even arrives.

What a shame idiots that think like you were elected and want it to fail for the simple reason of making Trump look bad. Mean while, the ACA continues to fail and people suffer. You must be proud. This is not a request for you to reply. I want to be on record for that.

All I am doing is stating the FACT that health care reform is dead in congress. Trump FAILED at what originally said was an easy thing to do. The Republican party failed to follow through on their charade of "repeal/replace".

Trump fails to "lead" anything...he just demands people do as he says, he accepts blame for nothing, and everybody but him has faults. That's not leadership. If you believe it is, then a spoiled toddler is a great leader because that is how they get what they want. ..and that is EXACTLY how Trump acts.

[trekman]

[Monker]

[Boomchild]

More of the liberal logic garbage....

[Boomchild]

Naybe this has something to do with the issue at hand.

[Boomchild]

[trekman]

Especially talking toasters. LOL

[Monker]

Especially talking toasters. LOL

[The_Noble_Cause]

The following vets sent a memo to Trump questioning the Russian hacking myth. All Russian stooges or possibly speaking the truth? Anyone who hasn't placed their brain in cold storage should read the memo.
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William Binney, former NSA Technical Director for World Geopolitical & Military Analysis; Co-founder of NSA’s Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center

Skip Folden, independent analyst, retired IBM Program Manager for Information Technology US (Associate VIPS)

Matthew Hoh, former Capt., USMC, Iraq & Foreign Service Officer, Afghanistan (associate VIPS)

Larry C Johnson, CIA & State Department (ret.)

Michael S. Kearns, Air Force Intelligence Officer (Ret.), Master SERE Resistance to Interrogation Instructor

John Kiriakou, Former CIA Counterterrorism Officer and former Senior Investigator, Senate Foreign Relations Committee

Linda Lewis, WMD preparedness policy analyst, USDA (ret.)

Lisa Ling, TSgt USAF (ret.) (associate VIPS)

Edward Loomis, Jr., former NSA Technical Director for the Office of Signals Processing

David MacMichael, National Intelligence Council (ret.)

Ray McGovern, former U.S. Army Infantry/Intelligence officer and CIA analyst

Elizabeth Murray, former Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East, CIA

Coleen Rowley, FBI Special Agent and former Minneapolis Division Legal Counsel (ret.)

Cian Westmoreland, former USAF Radio Frequency Transmission Systems Technician and Unmanned Aircraft Systems whistleblower (Associate VIPS)

Kirk Wiebe, former Senior Analyst, SIGINT Automation Research Center, NSA

Sarah G. Wilton, Intelligence Officer, DIA (ret.); Commander, US Naval Reserve (ret.)

Ann Wright, U.S. Army Reserve Colonel (ret) and former U.S. Diplomat

[S2M]

All kidding/ad hominem attacks aside, at least Barry ACTED presidential. Trump sounds like a community college dropout. I'd be able to stomach the fucking guy a lot more if he projected some sort of tangible intellect.

[Memorex]

All kidding/ad hominem attacks aside, at least Barry ACTED presidential. Trump sounds like a community college dropout. I'd be able to stomach the fucking guy a lot more if he projected some sort of tangible intellect.

I look at it as a persona. It's part of what got him elected, what caused him to have a popular TV show, etc. But from all accounts, when it's down to business time, it's down to business time.

But yea - it does wear thin and he's going to have to transition over time.

[S2M]

All kidding/ad hominem attacks aside, at least Barry ACTED presidential. Trump sounds like a community college dropout. I'd be able to stomach the fucking guy a lot more if he projected some sort of tangible intellect.

Trump is reported to be worth 5 to 10 billion, has skyscrapers, casinos and golf clubs the world over and owns his own 757 and Helicopters. And is now POTUS. You post pot shots on a message board in Tasmania. Tell me more about intellect hot shot.

Well...again, your logic fails you. Those Duck Fucks are worth millions, and dumb as shit. Money doesn't make you smart - especially when you inherit it. Next...Dubya was president, and about as bright as a Dragon glass. So intelligence doesn't make you president. I could win a billion dollars from a Powerball jackpot - wouldn't mean I was smart.

See the difference in responses between Memorex's, and yours? Yours is the same illogical, poorly thought out, banal rhetoric you've been spewing since forever. When are you Trump sycophants going to reply with actual policy issues, and examples of substance - instead of merely saying 'He's the POTUS, deal with it' or 'Hillary...blah...blah....blah'?

Your political acumen is about as relevant as your ability to pick NFL winners on a weekly basis.

[Boomchild]

All kidding/ad hominem attacks aside, at least Barry ACTED presidential. Trump sounds like a community college dropout. I'd be able to stomach the fucking guy a lot more if he projected some sort of tangible intellect.

Does acting "presidential" mean going to bed while an American ambassador and staff are under attack at one of our embassies?

[S2M]

All kidding/ad hominem attacks aside, at least Barry ACTED presidential. Trump sounds like a community college dropout. I'd be able to stomach the fucking guy a lot more if he projected some sort of tangible intellect.

Does acting "presidential" mean going to bed while an American ambassador and staff are under attack at one of our embassies?

Nice false equivalence, btw.

But it's probably my fault, I wasn't specific enough. I mean in fucking public...on a podium, during a speech, at the U.N., or any other PUBLIC engagement where the fucking world is watching, and making judgments about this fucking country. During his public appearances he acts like the love child of Howdy Doody, and Clyde the Orangutan. And make no mistake about it. The world, if it didn't already think this country was a pitiful joke, thinks so now. The president is the face of the country. And because Trump won, other countries attribute the characteristics of the leader of a country to its people.

[Boomchild]

All kidding/ad hominem attacks aside, at least Barry ACTED presidential. Trump sounds like a community college dropout. I'd be able to stomach the fucking guy a lot more if he projected some sort of tangible intellect.

Does acting "presidential" mean going to bed while an American ambassador and staff are under attack at one of our embassies?

Nice false equivalence, btw.

But it's probably my fault, I wasn't specific enough. I mean in fucking public...on a podium, during a speech, at the U.N., or any other PUBLIC engagement where the fucking world is watching, and making judgments about this fucking country. During his public appearances he acts like the love child of Howdy Doody, and Clyde the Orangutan. And make no mistake about it. The world, if it didn't already think this country was a pitiful joke, thinks so now. The president is the face of the country. And because Trump won, other countries attribute the characteristics of the leader of a country to its people.

I see you mean the pomp and circumstance and not where the rubber meets the road.