The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:That is because the ODNI report writers were idiots and did not know that Russia dates are in DD/MM/YYYY format and reported them as MM/DD/YYYY format. So a date of 3/7/2016 is REALLY July 3, 2017...but was reported as March 7, 2017.
WRONG. We are talking about shows from YEARS AGO. Not a matter of months. One show named in the ODNI report, Breaking the Set, ended in 2015. That somehow impacted the 2016 election? Give me a break. Occupy Wall Street TV coverage was also cited - back from 2011. As usual, you are either misinformed or lying.
So, if things from four years prior to an election can not affect things, why is Trump campaigning for reelection already?
I was not misinformed, etc, your question was simply not very specific. The report goes into a rant to discredit RT and blame them for a long term trend of trying to influence American politics. So what?
Monker wrote:They didn't. If you go to their site today they still blame Russia.
You’re splitting hairs. Crowdstrike attributed hacks of a Ukrainian artillery app to the Russians. Crowdstrike’s flawed report was then used in support of the DNC hacking theory. They claimed it was the same (or similar) Russian malware used to hack the DNC. The Crowdstrike Ukraine report was found to be based on total BS.
I am NOT splitting hairs. YOU said Crowdstrike backed off on their claims of Russia hacking elections. They didn't. They revised some of their claims about the incident you describe above. They are two different topics.
Ukraine Ministry of Defense denies the Russia hack. The makers of the artillery app disputed the report. Think tank, IISS, says Crowdstrike misused their data and disavowed the report. Crowdstike had to retract and revise. This intel is soo flawed that even George Tenet wouldn’t call it a “slam dunk.”
So what? That is NOT the same incident. They made ONE claim that linked the two incidents....that malware by Fancy Bear was used in both. That does not mean they were banded together where faults in one faulted the other. That, again, is just making shit up and putting it into a conspiracy theory.
Monker wrote:And, BTW, the hacked howitzers are exactly how I say voting machines can be hacked...the malware is part of the software being loaded....either the targeting software, or the voting software, or the vote counting software. It's the exact same thing.
Who cares? The developer of the allegedly Russian hacked Ukranian app says he was never contacted by Crowdstrike and the entire hack is a farce. If you think US voting booths were hacked, then man up and just say it already.
Quit lying about what I am saying. I have NEVER claimed "voting booths" were hacked. I am saying the software in voting machines, and the software in the voting counters, can be hacked.....and it would happen in the same way as was claimed in this incident.
Monker wrote:I would guess Crowd Strike already put in the same work that the FBI would have done and since Crowd Strike has been open with the info, there is no need to see the servers....unless you are a conspiracy theorist.
Crowdstrike is a private for-profit firm hired by the DNC. DNC is paying them millions. Conflict of interest much?
I'm just giving one example. If you want to know the actual reason, ask the FBI.
Monker wrote:*ALL* of these points are bullshit by you - and you should know that. But, you are a Trump zombie and ditto head who would rather distract the world by focusing on bullshit then the very real issues that are out there.
LOL. Been posting here as a socialist liberal/independent since 2002 and I'm a “ditto head.” Riiiight. At the end of the day, you are a DNC mouthpiece. You lied for Hillary (“she had permission to use a private server!”) and you are still lying today.
Yes, you are. You are CONSTANTLY repeating arguments that are on FOX and other conservative media. That is what all of this is in this list - bullshit propaganda.


