They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Monker]

Yep...thank you for bring up your posts to me from weeks ago and making an argument for why you alt-righters can't talk among yourselves. I had not posted for a week before you, and others, brought me into the mix again.

So just as everyone thought. Your statement that you were done posting in this thread was just another one of your lies. All it took was for someone to mention you and you started posting here again.

How about we ignore him and stop calling him into this thread? He's not having respectful dialogue with anyone and all he does is come in here to insult. Why feed him?

Please quote where I insulted YOU.

You have insulted me repeatedly and I could probably justify replying in kind..."plinko commie" indeed.

[steveo777]

You think like a fucking full on pinko commie. You don't like something, so you think it should be taken away from everyone else. You're a twat!

No. That has nothing to do with it.

I am saying that if I were Andrew, I would not want to spend time and money moderating this place. That time and money would be better spent elsewhere. I also would not want my forum (it's not YOURS) to be used to spread alt-right propaganda...which is what is attempting to be done here....or any other political beliefs. So, yes, I would delete this thread for those reasons - if I were Andrew.

Further, *I* am at a point where I would say "fuck all of it". And, delete the entire forum section here and just use FB to communicate to a MUCH larger audience.

It's not your call and it's none of your damn business whether he chooses to have a forum or not. You can't stand opposing points of view and feel those need to be shut down. I'm sure you'd be fine if all discussion here was spreading left wing propaganda. I get it... I understand exactly what you are and so does everyone else.

[Monker]

It's not your call and it's none of your damn business whether he chooses to have a forum or not. You can't stand opposing points of view and feel those need to be shut down. I'm sure you'd be fine if all discussion here was spreading left wing propaganda. I get it... I understand exactly what you are and so does everyone else.

First, YOU are the one trying to shut me down and not talk about closing the forums. Hmmm, maybe Andrew should kill the entire MR site and just use FB and Twitter? Hmm.

You're wrong, I LIKE opposing POV's. For example, I *LIKE* posting in the DC thread and getting a msg back from V or YJ that makes me think about what I said and they said. I may not agree, they may not change my mind, I may not change their mind. That's not the point of it. The point is, I may think BvS is the crappiest CBM ever and they may think it's one of the best...the point is genuinely trying to understand the other person's POV and accepting it, even if you disagree.

No, I would not be fine about spreading left wing propaganda. I said, several times now, that I would not want my site being used to spread ANY type of politics. I'm not a Democrat, and I'm no where near as "liberal" as most people think.

And, BTW, closing the entire site? Just a joke - haha.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos

So far, the indictments handed out by Mueller has been over process crimes. Not crimes directly related to collusion with Russia.

Hmmm, I wonder if they think it's just a bunch of lies?

Actually, yes. Manafort is suing Mueller for overstepping his authority by indicting him on charges unrelated to Russia's interference.

And, now Bannon has to testify under subpena - so he can't have his testimony directed by the White House and claim executive privilege. If he lies, add him to the list above. If he reveals all, maybe add Kushner and Jr. to the list above.

Did anyone expect Bannon to play ball with this Stalin show trial? Get real. Bannon is also trying to make a name for himself since he is jobless.

It's easy to fantasize that there is nothing there, but you are still ignoring reality.

Then tell us what's *there.* Because right now, all you have is a bunch of process crimes like lying to the FBI and failing to register under FARA

And, now there are dozens of stories out there that #releasethememo is being retweeted by Russian Bots. How does it feel to be working with the support of Russia, comrade?

You are so gullible. ALL of the stories cite ONE single source. Something called "The German Marshall Fund", which claims to track "Russian Influence Operations on Twitter." Now, does this group (which was started by Russiaphobic assholes like Neocon Bill Kristol, former CIA Michael Morell, and former US ambassador Michael McFaul) ever say how they determine which accounts are Russian? No, they don't. What's their methodology? Who knows? Their website claims to track 600 accounts that are "likely controlled by Russian government." Based on what? They also claim to track Twitter users that are "unconnected to the Russian government" and users who "may not understand themselves to be a part of a pro-Russian social network." In other words, this criteria is soo loose that ANYTHING that trends can be claimed to be a Russia social media psy op.

This is very much like the group "ProporNot", an organization which published a list of alleged Russian propaganda websites during the election. That organization was heavily promoted by the Washington Post and the rest of the media. They later had to revise and remove websites from their list. The biggest disinformation campaign in recent history is being carried out right now by US media, not Russian. And it relies on useful idiots like you to read a headline, not research the facts, and repeat it verbatim here.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Apple has been critiqued for years for having too much of their company investments in China. It should not surprise ANYBODY that they are moving it to the US.

Then why didn't it happen under the prior administration? Why did Cook credit the reduced tax rate?

Tim Cook: "There are two parts of tax bill, there's a corporate piece and an individual piece," Cook explained. "I do believe the corporate tax side will result in job creation and a faster growing economy."

But, how much money have the TRUMP organizations been investing in their employees? If this TRUMP economy is doing so well and the tax breaks are so good, I would think the various companies with the TRUMP name would be investing in their employees.

Don't care. In case you haven't noticed, Trump's busy running the free world.

As far as 401k, I remember when the market crashed in 2008...and McCain insisting that "the fundamentals of the economy are strong." I remember my 401k going from $100,000 down to $20,000. The company I was working for had their stock go from $35/share down to $7. Despite various speculation, I was confident the company was not going broke...if anything, it would be bought. So, I took %75 of what was left and put it in company stock, and the rest in safe bonds. By the end of 2009, I had made up all of my losses and I re-diversified because the company stock was around $30/share again. By 2014, I had tripled my money - without any contributions (I had left in late 2009). Who was President between 2009 - 2014?

The economy is continuing what Obama had already done. Like it or not, that is the truth.

LOL. Who am I going to believe, my lying eyes or you - an economic illiterate and deeply disturbed pathological liar?

In fact, IMO, it's in another bubble:

“Believe me: We’re in a bubble right now. And the only thing that looks good is the stock market — but if you raise interest rates even a little bit, that’s going to come crashing down. We are in a big, fat, ugly bubble. And we better be awfully careful.” Donald Jack-off Trump 9/2015

So did Obama inflate another bubble or singlehandedly rescue the economy? Please make up your mind. Also, if you wish to discuss Obama, please post it to the correct thread! Play by your own rules, dickhead.

[Boomchild]

Things seem to be leading back to Obama now. The Democratic Crown jewels, Obama and the Clintons.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-144764

Reading this article reminded me of something Hillary was reported saying on election night when she realized once again her dream was lost. It was reported she said that "Obama did not do enough for her".

[verslibre]

That's my point. If he's going to use a source that's a joke, so can I.

If you think that's the only site with commentary on that topic, you're in worse shape than I thought. But you can sleep peacefully knowing you'll be buried with your Departure cassette.

[verslibre]

Gov't's shut down, peeps. Take the weekend off.

[Boomchild]

Gov't's shut down, peeps. Take the weekend off.

Let's speculate how long it will be "shutdown". My guess 10 days.

[verslibre]

[Monker]

You think like a fucking full on pinko commie. You don't like something, so you think it should be taken away from everyone else. You're a twat!

No. That has nothing to do with it.

I am saying that if I were Andrew, I would not want to spend time and money moderating this place. That time and money would be better spent elsewhere. I also would not want my forum (it's not YOURS) to be used to spread alt-right propaganda...which is what is attempting to be done here....or any other political beliefs. So, yes, I would delete this thread for those reasons - if I were Andrew.

Further, *I* am at a point where I would say "fuck all of it". And, delete the entire forum section here and just use FB to communicate to a MUCH larger audience.

You know I'm sick of it. I post news articals on here. You libs are free to comment. Problem is, you can't.

No, the problem is that I HAVE commented on it...and all you do is say I posted I was leaving. It's bugging the hell out of you that I'm here replying to your posts...and YOU are the one who has nothing to say about it but attempts at personal attacks and insults.

So you claim to be helpless little babies getting pounded

Nope...nobody has claimed that at all. You are simply lying about it. In the above that you quoted all I am saying is I would not want to manage forums like this when my time and money could be put to better use. Get over it.

You have to lie to rebuke anything anyway.

I have lied about nothing. Nunes wrote the memo you are so fascinated by. The guy who single handedly removed any credibility that the House Intel committee had for being non-biased. He is spoon fed crap from the Whitehouse. He's very far from being a reliable source for anything.

People have their eyes open now. The mainstream bullshit won't cut it anymore.

I would trust MSNBC before a White House lemming like Nunes.

[Monker]

He asked for a compromise, set up his photo-op meeting to kick it off....and then refused to sign the bi-partisan bill. That was at such a last minute that the result was chaos...not even the Republicans had a clue what Trump would be willing to sign. Trump is ABSOLUTELY to blame for this...the political BS in the Senate would have been irrelevant if Trump had followed through on his original compromise.

Trump is not a deal maker. He has no clue. Republican RUN ALL AREAS OF GOVERNMENT. The ONLY excuse for this is incompetence and failed leadership at the White House.

:lol:

[slucero]

Trump can order the memo released...

[Memorex]

Trump can order the memo released...

According to what I posted above, he shouldn't.

"There are poorly informed voices who claim President Trump can arbitrarily declassify the Nunes memo. That is false. The White House (the executive branch) does not own the document. The Nunes memo is owned by the Legislative Branch, and specifically by the House Intelligence Committee. The Executive Branch can request the memo, but they cannot demand it without following a process. Therefore, without submission, the executive branch cannot declassify it. There is an inherent constitutional separation of power.

Secondly, while it might seem like a good idea for President Trump to declassify the Nunes memo, if given by the Intel Committee, it would not be prudent to do so. Within this classified document Donald Trump is the subject of adverse action outlined therein."

While I agree Trump should leave it to others while there is a special investigation going on, he can declassify it. Process or not, the Supreme Court has ruled that the President is the ultimate decider, as Commander in Chief, of what is classified or not. If the Commander feels it does not jeopardize national security, that is his prerogative above all other opinons.

[Boomchild]

Hey Monker, verselibre, Andrew..

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/370 ... estigation

Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch knew well in advance of FBI Director James Comey's 2016 press conference that he would recommend against charging Hillary Clinton, according to information turned over to the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Friday.

And it gets worse. Comey and Lynch reportedly knew that Clinton would never face charges even before the FBI conducted its three-hour interview with Clinton, which was supposedly meant to gather more information into her mishandling of classified information.

Not to mention she wasn't sworn before the interview.

[verslibre]

Hey Monker, verselibre, Andrew..

What? I'm not a card-carrying member of her fan club or anything like that.

[Boomchild]

Well what do you know, FBI "claims" they don't have FIVE MONTHS worth of Peter Strzok's emails. Well isn't that a little convenient.

[Boomchild]

Well what do you know, FBI "claims" they don't have FIVE MONTHS worth of Peter Strzok's emails. Well isn't that a little convenient.

More than 50,000 texts were exchanged between two FBI officials who have come under fire for exchanging anti-Trump messages during the 2016 election, Attorney General Jeff Sessions revealed Monday.

The revelation came as lawmakers have been pressing for answers after revelations that the FBI “failed to preserve” five months of texts between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

“We will leave no stone unturned to confirm with certainty why these text messages are not now available to be produced and will use every technology available to determine whether the missing messages are recoverable from another source,” Sessions said in a statement provided to Fox News. “If we are successful, we will update the congressional committees immediately.”

Things are never fully deleted. Something tells me that in time some people are going to find this out the hard way.

[Boomchild]

Had to post this here because the thread where it would "Belong" to was deleted. So don't get your panties in a bunch about "posting in the right thread".

looks like Chelsea may have some hurdles if she chooses to follow in the foot steps of Mom and Dad. Which may be moot once the "shit rolls" down hill with the TCF.

BOMBSHELL: Federal Records Show Chelsea Clinton Funneled $11 Million in Federal Contracts to Her Friend’s Phony Think-Tank

During Hillary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State, more than $11 Million of federal contracts were awarded to a questionably legitimate think-tank, which is owned and operated by Chelsea Clinton’s “Best Friend”.

Jacqueline Newmyer, who Chelsea Clinton says is her “best friend”, owns and operates Long Term Strategy Group (LTSG). Over the past 10 years, LTSG has been awarded more than $11 million from a Department of Defense think-tank known as the Office of Net Assessment (ONA).

Long Term Strategy Group, has a virtually non-existent website and has no security clearances, yet to date they have received $11.2 Million in federal contracts according to USAspending.gov.
http://offendedamerica.com/bombshell-fe ... hink-tank/

[Boomchild]

FBI 'Secret Society' Met Day After Election...
TEXT MESSAGE BOMBSHELL...

I believe I can see storm clouds forming.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Just a reminder - those of us who pointed out the obvious fact that the Hillary investigation was rigged (just like the DNC primaries) were dismissed as "conspiracy theorists."

[Boomchild]

[Boomchild]

Hell, Hillary had 31,000 emails, God knows how many text messages because they smashed phones, hard drives, ect. I hope they go after her for obstruction and well as purgery, let alone extortion. After all this, it's Learners turn.

Nothing ever is deleted permanently. They think it's gone but I suspect they are going to be proven wrong.

[Boomchild]

Rats are deserting the liberal ship.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-144909

Go ahead and try to run. They already see all and know all. Now it's just a matter of time.

[Boomchild]

Schummer pouting, says "Wall Deal is off the table".
I guess DACA people better start packing.

As if it ever really was "on the table" for him.

[steveo777]

Schummer pouting, says "Wall Deal is off the table".
I guess DACA people better start packing.

This is where the GOP has the upper hand. First of all, illegal is illegal and Obama's program was unconstitutional, per law.
So, basically, no wall, no DACA. Fuck Chuck! No, that doesn't mean kick everyone out of the country. They've been living here without being deported anyway. When the Dems get onboard with border security, then we can legalize them. Most American people have compassion for the dreamers and don't want them deported. The Democrats are using them as pawns and tried to use them to shut down the government. Since when should our budget consider the wants of the dems and illegals over our country's best interests?

[Boomchild]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455696/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-emails-key-decision-not-indict-hillary

The Key to understanding why Clinton wasn’t indicted.

New FBI texts highlight a motive to conceal the president’s involvement.

From the first, these columns have argued that the whitewash of the Hillary Clinton emails caper was President Barack Obama’s call - not the FBI’s, and not the Justice Department’s. The decision was inevitable. Obama, using a pseudonymous email account, had repeatedly communicated with Secretary Clinton over her private, non-secure email account.

If Clinton had been charged, Obama’s culpable involvement would have been patent. In any prosecution of Clinton, the Clinton–Obama emails would have been in the spotlight. For the prosecution, they would be more proof of willful (or, if you prefer, grossly negligent) mishandling of intelligence. More significantly, for Clinton’s defense, they would show that Obama was complicit in Clinton’s conduct yet faced no criminal charges.

That is why such an indictment of Hillary Clinton was never going to happen. The latest jaw-dropping disclosures of text messages between FBI agent Peter Strzok and his paramour, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, illustrate this point.

The farce was complete with the Justice Department and FBI permitting two subjects of the investigation - Mills and Clinton aide Heather Samuelson - to sit in on the interview as lawyers representing Clinton. That is not something law enforcement abides when it is serious about making a case. Here, however, it was clear: There would be no prosecution.

All cleaned up: no indictment, meaning no prosecution, meaning no disclosure of Clinton–Obama emails. It all worked like a charm . . . except the part where Mrs. Clinton wins the presidency and the problem is never spoken of again.

I remember it being mentioned that in order for Obama to receive emails from HRC's private non .gov email account the WH IT team had to setup Obama's devices to do so. He cannot deny he didn't know about the non .gov account(s).

Then you have Cheryl Mills acting as legal council to HRC during the FBI interview of HRC. How in the hell does anyone think people are going to believe that a person who is also a subject to the investigation would be permitted to act as legal council?

[slucero]

Senator Johnson Reveals New FBI Text Messages

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majo ... t-messages

Peter Strzok: ‘My gut sense and concern there’s no big there there.’
Tuesday, January 23, 2018

WASHINGTON – During an appearance on Wisconsin’s Jay Weber Show, U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, revealed new text message exchanges between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) employees who both worked at the FBI on the Clinton Investigation and then for Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Of note, one text message sent on May 19, 2017, shortly after the Deputy Attorney General appointed Mueller as special counsel seems to imply Strzok was skeptical about the inquiry.

This new text message follows the revelation from this weekend that the FBI does not have access to text messages between Strzok and Page for the time period between Dec. 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017. Johnson sent a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray Saturday seeking answers to questions about the missing communications from that period of time.

Excerpts from the interview are below, and the full segment can be found here.

Johnson: “And then on May 19th we have a big gap—a five-month gap. And now the texts begin again. This is two days after Mueller was appointed Special Counsel. Strzock writes—they’re talking back and forth about their future at the FBI given the recent appointment of Mueller. They’re talking about what they ought to do. And it indicates their considering joining that Mueller Special Counsel investigation.

Johnson: “Strzok says, quote, ‘You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I’d be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big there there.’ In other words, Peter Strzok was the FBI Deputy Assistant Director of the Counter Intelligence Division, and the man had a plan to do something, because he just couldn’t abide Donald Trump being president.”

Johnson: “It’s saying that his gut sense that there’s no big there there, when it comes to the Mueller Special Counsel investigation. He doesn’t really want to join that because his gut sense is there’s no big there there. I think that’s kind of shocking.”

Johnson: “The correct reaction is we need to see the five months of missing texts, because, who knows. Again, texts between two people having an extra-marital affair, and they’re completely unguarded in their communication. And so we’re getting insight into exactly what’s happening inside the FBI at the highest levels.”

Jay Weber: “Could you read again the passage? What Peter Strzok’s message there was a couple of days after it was announced that Mueller was going to put together this team.”

Johnson: “Yeah, they’re wondering, and we think they’re probably considering whether or not they want to join that team, Strzok says, quote, ‘You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I’d be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big there there.’”

[The_Noble_Cause]

Wow, Monker do you really believe the Russian bot story about #ReleasetheMemo?

Holy Mother of God.

Very disappointed in you.

This is being debunked now by Twitter itself. Another day in America, another fake anti-Russian story. Hear the drumbeats yet? And of course, Monker fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/source-tw ... ot-russia/

[Boomchild]