They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

I think this calls for a special investigation headed by Trey Gowdy. Do you think he would do it?

It could be possible that something similar to this is already going on. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was reported that Session's already has a special prosecutor (from outside Wash.) working with the I.G.. I think that Gowdy would be interested and it's possible that may be the reason he is leaving Congress and the committees. As I said in previous posts, I thought he would be a good choice but have some reservations now due to some things I have recently discovered him saying in the past.

[ohsherrie]

Apple CEO Tim Cook slams Facebook: Privacy 'is a human right, it's a civil liberty'

When asked what he would do if he were Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Cook replied: "I wouldn't be in this situation."

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/a ... it-n860816

Cook went to court to protect the rights of a suspected criminal. I enjoy Facebook, but I don't put personal stuff on there. Anybody who got any information about me found out in short order that I was NOT going to vote for Hillary.

[ohsherrie]

I think this calls for a special investigation headed by Trey Gowdy. Do you think he would do it?

It could be possible that something similar to this is already going on. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was reported that Session's already has a special prosecutor (from outside Wash.) working with the I.G.. I think that Gowdy would be interested and it's possible that may be the reason he is leaving Congress and the committees. As I said in previous posts, I thought he would be a good choice but have some reservations now due to some things I have recently discovered him saying in the past.

I was hoping he was going to go back to DOJ for that reason. What did you hear that gave you pause?

[ohsherrie]

Sara Carter closing in on Obama. More on the Bullshit Russia Probe. Have you noticed you don't hear much about it on the "news" the past week.

https://saraacarter.com/new-documents-s ... stigation/

Good stuff K.C.

[ohsherrie]

What new people? Do you think this Verislibe (sp) is new? New name. I don't know of any other knew people since I've started posting again.

This mass influx of liberal newbies doesn't exist. There was John from Boston, who has posted on and off and admitted that he doesn't follow politics. The other was Ann, who also said the same thing. And then there was a poster named Archetype, who Monker staunchly defended as a Trump hating liberal ally. It turned out Archetype was bizarrely using this website to promote North Korea and he was told to get lost by Andrew. If Monker so so so badly wants more liberals on this forum, he should worry about the Democratic party converting more hearts and minds. That ain't happening anytime soon.

What I’d like to know is if just “the 10” of us were solely responsible for the Million plus views on the Obama thread, or the quarter million views on this thread. Shirley there must be more lurkers hanging around Id think.

I don't know because I wasn't around that much but it could just be that people drifted away to FB, Twitter, multitudes of political website message boards once they had lost interest in Journey drama that brought them here to begin with. I do know that several of the old posters still pop in to see what's going on but don't post.

[ohsherrie]

"I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice, to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us and we're conducting that investigation.” Attorney General Jeff Sessions, March 8, 2018.

What allegations did the House Judiciary Committee want investigated?

1. AG Lynch directing Comey to mislead the American people about Clinton email investigation
2. Secretary Clinton mishandling classified info
3. FBI and DoJ immunity grants to potential Clinton co-conspirators Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, John Bentel, others
4. DoJ failure to empanel grand jury on Secretary Clinton and associates mishandling classified info
5. State Department employees determining which of Secretary Clinton's emails to make public
6. WikiLeaks disclosures re: Clinton Foundation's potentially unlawful international dealings
7. Connection between Clinton campaign / Clinton Foundation with foreign entities including Russia and Ukraine
8. Comey's knowledge of the purchase of Uranium One by Rosatom; whether the sale was connected to any donations made to the Clinton Foundation; what role Secretary Clinton played in a sale that had national security implications
9. Unlawful access to DNC computers; collusion between DNC and Clinton campaign to undermine Bernie Sanders' campaign
10. Unlawful monitoring of candidate Trump, Comey/Lynch knowledge of federal agency unlawful monitoring
11. Selected leaks of classified info re: unmasking of US person IDs; whether Obama admin (Comey, Lynch, Rice, Power, others) had knowledge of unmarking of individuals in candidate Trump's campaign and transition teams
12. Comey's admitted leaks to law professor Daniel Richman re: Comey's conversations with president Trump, whether they included classified info, whether they were intended to cause the appointment of a new special counsel.
13. Comey's and FBI's reliance on Fusion GPS investigation of Trump campaign; its creation of fake "dossier" about Trump, who commissioned and disseminated the dossier before and after the 2016 election; whether the FBI paid anyone in connection with the dossier, and the intelligence sources of Fusion GPS or anyone working for/with them.
14. Leaks originated by Comey provided to author Michael Schmidt dating back to 1993.

This is going to be a lot more fun than Russia, Russia, Russia.

[Boomchild]

I was hoping he was going to go back to DOJ for that reason. What did you hear that gave you pause?

It's mainly two things. Gowdy seems to very good at asking the right questions and saying the right things. But, what results have come from it? Second, he has been quoted as saying that he respects or has high confidence in Mueller.

[Boomchild]

[Monker]

I was hoping he was going to go back to DOJ for that reason. What did you hear that gave you pause?

It's mainly two things. Gowdy seems to very good at asking the right questions and saying the right things. But, what results have come from it? Second, he has been quoted as saying that he respects or has high confidence in Mueller.

He also said there would be a Russia investigation with or without the dossier.

If you read what he has said since the retirement announcement, he wants out of politics because he tries to see all sides, not just one partison side. IMO, things like this new investigation is exactly why he wants to leave Washington and he would never accept the position.

[Monker]

O.I.G. Opens FISA abuse investigation

http://www.fauxnews.com/politics/2018/0 ... j-fbi.html

Andrew CENSORED Fox News links here.

Yep, just C&P the text, if Fox is mentioned in the body of story replace with CNN. Like this, “Sources tell CNN.”

Andrew, can you maybe limit the size of posts? it's going to get a bit ridiculous here if everybody starts pasting entire articles.

[Monker]

And, who do you think didn't like the posts?

I'm not interested in guessing who. But it's clear as to why it was deleted. Which in my opinion was pathetic. If your that interested in knowing, you could ask Andrew.

I was interested in knowing if you would accuse me. It wasn't me...I only read the first few posts and then ignored it as a place for you all to act out.

You assume "someone didn't like the posts." The person who didn't like the posts was Andrew. Andrew removed the thread from Andrew's forum. Nobody else need be involved.

[Monker]

"I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice, to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us and we're conducting that investigation.” Attorney General Jeff Sessions, March 8, 2018.

What allegations did the House Judiciary Committee want investigated?

1. AG Lynch directing Comey to mislead the American people about Clinton email investigation
2. Secretary Clinton mishandling classified info
3. FBI and DoJ immunity grants to potential Clinton co-conspirators Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, John Bentel, others
4. DoJ failure to empanel grand jury on Secretary Clinton and associates mishandling classified info
5. State Department employees determining which of Secretary Clinton's emails to make public
6. WikiLeaks disclosures re: Clinton Foundation's potentially unlawful international dealings
7. Connection between Clinton campaign / Clinton Foundation with foreign entities including Russia and Ukraine
8. Comey's knowledge of the purchase of Uranium One by Rosatom; whether the sale was connected to any donations made to the Clinton Foundation; what role Secretary Clinton played in a sale that had national security implications
9. Unlawful access to DNC computers; collusion between DNC and Clinton campaign to undermine Bernie Sanders' campaign
10. Unlawful monitoring of candidate Trump, Comey/Lynch knowledge of federal agency unlawful monitoring
11. Selected leaks of classified info re: unmasking of US person IDs; whether Obama admin (Comey, Lynch, Rice, Power, others) had knowledge of unmarking of individuals in candidate Trump's campaign and transition teams
12. Comey's admitted leaks to law professor Daniel Richman re: Comey's conversations with president Trump, whether they included classified info, whether they were intended to cause the appointment of a new special counsel.
13. Comey's and FBI's reliance on Fusion GPS investigation of Trump campaign; its creation of fake "dossier" about Trump, who commissioned and disseminated the dossier before and after the 2016 election; whether the FBI paid anyone in connection with the dossier, and the intelligence sources of Fusion GPS or anyone working for/with them.
14. Leaks originated by Comey provided to author Michael Schmidt dating back to 1993.

This is going to be a lot more fun than Russia, Russia, Russia.

Why? You do realize this isn't a "special counsel", correct? Just some guy outside of Washington to give you more opinions on the various topics. Can you say, "pacifier?" it has also been weeks since this came out and no "big" announcement has happened.

[ohsherrie]

"I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice, to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us and we're conducting that investigation.” Attorney General Jeff Sessions, March 8, 2018.

What allegations did the House Judiciary Committee want investigated?

1. AG Lynch directing Comey to mislead the American people about Clinton email investigation
2. Secretary Clinton mishandling classified info
3. FBI and DoJ immunity grants to potential Clinton co-conspirators Cheryl Mills, Heather Samuelson, John Bentel, others
4. DoJ failure to empanel grand jury on Secretary Clinton and associates mishandling classified info
5. State Department employees determining which of Secretary Clinton's emails to make public
6. WikiLeaks disclosures re: Clinton Foundation's potentially unlawful international dealings
7. Connection between Clinton campaign / Clinton Foundation with foreign entities including Russia and Ukraine
8. Comey's knowledge of the purchase of Uranium One by Rosatom; whether the sale was connected to any donations made to the Clinton Foundation; what role Secretary Clinton played in a sale that had national security implications
9. Unlawful access to DNC computers; collusion between DNC and Clinton campaign to undermine Bernie Sanders' campaign
10. Unlawful monitoring of candidate Trump, Comey/Lynch knowledge of federal agency unlawful monitoring
11. Selected leaks of classified info re: unmasking of US person IDs; whether Obama admin (Comey, Lynch, Rice, Power, others) had knowledge of unmarking of individuals in candidate Trump's campaign and transition teams
12. Comey's admitted leaks to law professor Daniel Richman re: Comey's conversations with president Trump, whether they included classified info, whether they were intended to cause the appointment of a new special counsel.
13. Comey's and FBI's reliance on Fusion GPS investigation of Trump campaign; its creation of fake "dossier" about Trump, who commissioned and disseminated the dossier before and after the 2016 election; whether the FBI paid anyone in connection with the dossier, and the intelligence sources of Fusion GPS or anyone working for/with them.
14. Leaks originated by Comey provided to author Michael Schmidt dating back to 1993.

Well, it doesn't seem likely to be Gowdy but I hope it's somebody just as tenacious.

[ohsherrie]

I was hoping he was going to go back to DOJ for that reason. What did you hear that gave you pause?

It's mainly two things. Gowdy seems to very good at asking the right questions and saying the right things. But, what results have come from it? Second, he has been quoted as saying that he respects or has high confidence in Mueller.

I think having politics interfere with his ability to get answers and results are the reason he's leaving. He has found that the laws he thought had meaning have no meaning in the swamp. He probably has no reason not to have confidence in Mueller. He has never dealt with him in relation to the political quagmire of D.C.. I was hoping he would come back in from the judicial side and try to help drain it. If he chooses not to I respect him for wanting to stay above the fray and feel like he's back on solid ground. He's probably one of many who could have done a lot of good for this country if politics hadn't stifled them.

[ohsherrie]

Why? You do realize this isn't a "special counsel", correct? Just some guy outside of Washington to give you more opinions on the various topics. Can you say, "pacifier?" it has also been weeks since this came out and no "big" announcement has happened.

So, nobody but a "special counsel" can research and present information to the AG? I was hoping for Trey Gowdy as a special counsel, but if that isn't to be I'll be happy with any competent person looking into these these crimes against this country. How many months did it take Mueller to make a "big announcement"?

Just so I'm clear, is this a discussion or an argument? It's hard to tell with you.

[Monker]

Monker wrote:

Andrew, since I’m a big pussy snowflake can you please make articles I don’t agree with go away? They make me wanna cry.

What a piece of shit you are dude. Embarrassing to men you are.

You cant handle the truth. Go hide.

BTW, Sherrie, see how FF changed the quote? Who made the "personal attack" in this exchange?

[Monker]

Why? You do realize this isn't a "special counsel", correct? Just some guy outside of Washington to give you more opinions on the various topics. Can you say, "pacifier?" it has also been weeks since this came out and no "big" announcement has happened.

So, nobody but a "special counsel" can research and present information to the AG? I was hoping for Trey Gowdy as a special counsel, but if that isn't to be I'll be happy with any competent person looking into these these crimes against this country. How many months did it take Mueller to make a "big announcement"?

Of course they can...but which do you think holds more weight and is more meaningful? "Random guy outside Washington" who "investigates" these issues further...Or "special counsel", who can indict people, convene a grand jury and have people testify under oath? If this list was "under investigation" in any meaningful way, it would make more news that a couple conservative online articles. All it was is Sessions feeling pressure so to relieve some of it he asked John Doe from Hooterville to "investigate it".

Just so I'm clear, is this a discussion or an argument? It's hard to tell with you.

What difference does it make?

[ohsherrie]

Monker wrote:

Andrew, since I’m a big pussy snowflake can you please make articles I don’t agree with go away? They make me wanna cry.

What a piece of shit you are dude. Embarrassing to men you are.

You cant handle the truth. Go hide.

BTW, Sherrie, see how FF changed the quote? Who made the "personal attack" in this exchange?

I don't want to get into any exchange between you and FF, however, I do see a difference between what he did and what that person did to my post.

His change didn't change the meaning of the intent of your post. He simply expanded on it in a way that made it insulting to you.

That insidious poster changed the meaning of my post.

[ohsherrie]

Why? You do realize this isn't a "special counsel", correct? Just some guy outside of Washington to give you more opinions on the various topics. Can you say, "pacifier?" it has also been weeks since this came out and no "big" announcement has happened.

So, nobody but a "special counsel" can research and present information to the AG? I was hoping for Trey Gowdy as a special counsel, but if that isn't to be I'll be happy with any competent person looking into these these crimes against this country. How many months did it take Mueller to make a "big announcement"?

Of course they can...but which do you think holds more weight and is more meaningful? "Random guy outside Washington" who "investigates" these issues further...Or "special counsel", who can indict people, convene a grand jury and have people testify under oath? If this list was "under investigation" in any meaningful way, it would make more news that a couple conservative online articles. All it was is Sessions feeling pressure so to relieve some of it he asked John Doe from Hooterville to "investigate it".

Just so I'm clear, is this a discussion or an argument? It's hard to tell with you.

What difference does it make?

We shall see. I don't have a great deal of confidence in Sessions and never have, but I do have confidence in my President and I don't think Sessions would still be around if the President wasn't at least willing to give him a chance to do his job. I certainly don't want Hillary's crimes to just fade away from the public awareness. If they do President Nixon deserves a huge apology.

I was just wondering if this qualifies as a discussion. That seems to be important to you.

[ohsherrie]

Yep, guns are the problem. Once the second Ammendment is taken away, everything will be peace and love. What bullshit. A armed guard would have solved this like one did last week.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/s ... -1.1750425

Yeah, even though I think a lot of people who own guns think of them as toys, and I don't respect that, I realize guns aren't the only weapons that kill. If a killer wants to kill he will find a way.

[Monker]

You are trying to curtail posters ability to post material relevant to this discussion.

No, I just don't want to wade through pages of articles that you two copy/pasted. And, BTW, since these are most likely copyrighted, by allowing you to copy/paste entire articles, Andrew may be opening himself up for a lawsuit.

Plus you're a crybaby.

I'm not the one pounding the table and demanding the ability to do and act however I want to on this forum You are just projecting your own frustration on to me.

It's crap like this that cost your beloved Hilldawg the election

Really? Limiting how people post on web forums cost her the election? That seems a bit loopy to me.

The country see right through it, it's becoming clearer everyday

Wow, really? I thought the way forum owners were hiding how they implimented their rules was going to be hard for the public to figure out.

You lost, deal with it until next time like we did on the Obama thread.

Wow, so now asking to limit the size of posts equates to being in denial of an election loss. Like I said, loopy.

Btw, where the hell was Andrew during that 8 year long clusterfuck?

Busy trying to moderate Dean, AR, me, froyline, Toph, other posters, and contending with Joe Reardon's psychotics.

Why is he here now running interference for the likes of you? Bullocks.

I'm not even going there.

[ohsherrie]

Monker wrote:

Of course they can...but which do you think holds more weight and is more meaningful? "Random guy outside Washington" who "investigates" these issues further...Or "special counsel", who can indict people, convene a grand jury and have people testify under oath? If this list was "under investigation" in any meaningful way, it would make more news that a couple conservative online articles. All it was is Sessions feeling pressure so to relieve some of it he asked John Doe from Hooterville to "investigate it".

Fact Finder clarified:

AG’s Office Confirms Sessions Appointed Separate “Senior Federal Prosecutor” Outside of DC to Investigate FISA Abuse

TaDaaaaa! That way he or she doesn't have to wade through the swamp, just gets it done!

[ohsherrie]

No, I just don't want to wade through pages of articles that you two copy/pasted. And, BTW, since these are most likely copyrighted, by allowing you to copy/paste entire articles, Andrew may be opening himself up for a lawsuit.

Your line by line posts really do take more "wading through" than most articles that are copied and pasted. Just sayin. If you don't like what the article says don't read it. I doubt that they're directed at you personally. These guys are just trying to keep those of us who are interested informed.

If you have any material to post that might make some of us understand your opinions I for one would be happy to read it.

[ohsherrie]

And, who do you think didn't like the posts?

I'm not interested in guessing who. But it's clear as to why it was deleted. Which in my opinion was pathetic. If your that interested in knowing, you could ask Andrew.

I was interested in knowing if you would accuse me. It wasn't me...I only read the first few posts and then ignored it as a place for you all to act out.

You assume "someone didn't like the posts." The person who didn't like the posts was Andrew. Andrew removed the thread from Andrew's forum. Nobody else need be involved.

What are y'all talking about?

[Monker]

Andrew, BTW, here is how you change the max post length...about halfway down, it shows the setting:

https://www.inmotionhosting.com/support ... t-settings

[The_Noble_Cause]

I appreciate hearing from all sides and making up my own mind. That's my vote. Leave it be. Censoring links is pretty juvenile. What are we afraid of here? You fight lies with truth. This is more anti-liberal behavior from self professed liberals. Either you believe in an open exchange of ideas or you don't.

[RPM]

When Liberals / progressives cant win a debate on its merits they resort to shutting down the discussion.
They are many videos of the loony wackos protesting Ben Shapiro from SPEAKING at college
campuses labeling his words as "violence" "Triggers" . I give Andrew credit for not doing that here,
even for a thread he loathes. (so far)

[steveo777]

Andrew, can you maybe limit the size of posts? it's going to get a bit ridiculous here if everybody starts pasting entire articles.

The bandwidth argument died a long time ago. If you don't like the content, or length of a post, you think we shouldn't have it either. Why not just scroll past it, rather than advocate your will on the rest of us? You make a great little pinko brown shirt. Typical. Your ilk try and suppress free conversation you don't agree with. Maybe you should move to a country that does it your way. Go down some tide pods, or eat some crayons, which are non toxic, you window licker, you.

[The_Noble_Cause]

BTW, Sherrie, see how FF changed the quote? Who made the "personal attack" in this exchange?

Does it matter? The entire exchange was provoked by your continued effort to stifle ideas you disagree with. Let's start with that.

[steveo777]

I'm kind of chuckling to myself. A friend just asked me why I haven't been very active on Face Book lately. I said I'm kind of tired of reading the two Americas bickering with each other. It's kind of depressing. There's the right and the wrong.

And....termites are progressive too.