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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:32 am

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verslibre wrote:1) The comment about "decent parents," etc. Yes, there are many decent parents, decent people, merely trying to make/find a better lives for their families. They're the pilgrims of the modern age. It's not like a mass exodus of cartel castoffs are driving over the border unsurveilled in a yuge caravan of motorhomes. That's just racist bullshit.


Tell me, if I rob a bank to pay for chemo, what happens to me? Laws don't cease to exist because perpetrators are motivated by noble reasons. Again, grow up.


Always amusing when somebody proffers an example of the extreme. "I shot an unarmed burglar for attacking my mother with a crowbar; the burglar sued and won. Why did I get fucked?"

You guys cannot tolerate ANY criticism of Le Don. So who needs to grow up?
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:33 am

verslibre wrote:1) The comment about "decent parents," etc. Yes, there are many decent parents, decent people, merely trying to make/find a better lives for their families. They're the pilgrims of the modern age. It's not like a mass exodus of cartel castoffs are driving over the border unsurveilled in a yuge caravan of motorhomes. That's just racist bullshit.


First off it wouldn't be racist but rather bigotry. Because illegal immigration\migration is NOT exclusive to one particular race. Also it doesn't just pertain to those that cross our borders illegally. It also includes those that have violated the terms of their visas. It's not that Americans don't want people from other areas of the world to immigrate here. What Americans want is for those persons to respect our immigration laws and enter the country legally. That is simple common sense. Which is a term that a lot of liberals and progressives like to throw around. When it comes to entering this country illegally, it doesn't matter whether it is one, ten, hundreds, thousands or millions of people. It's a violation of our laws and those that do so are subject to the letter of the law. The reason(s) behind there CHOICE to enter the U.S. illegally doesn't matter. They committed a crime and deserve the consequences of THEIR actions.

We are in this situation because our government has failed to do their job. A bill to resolve the illegal immigration on our southern border was passed in 1986. It gave a free pass to millions of illegals and was to provide resources and funding to secure our southern border. The problem is that the illegals got their "free pass" but the government never PROPERLY secured the border as outlined in the LAW. Then we had a POTUS that created an EO that went DIRECTLY against our immigration law. The President is charged to ensure that ALL of our laws are enforced. Not create orders that circumvent the law and basically neuter government agencies from enforcing laws PASSED by Congress. A country cannot maintain it's sovereignty without having properly secured borders. If you adopt a "open border policy" you essentially don't have a country.



verslibre wrote:2) The gov't using the BIBLE to justify their stance is the biggest load I've ever seen, and no surprise it comes from this administration. If you're going to start using Bible verses and the Commandments to justify your doctrines and laws, then you'd better start following them. Until I see otherwise, the only god — lower-case g — that the President serves is mammon. "You cannot serve both God and mammon."


Give the lecturing a rest. Many politicians have used references to "God" or a "religion" to support their actions, positions and policies. It wasn't solely created by this administration. If anything it's "pot meet kettle".
To clarify this is not to say that I personally am endorsing it.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:38 am

Boomchild wrote:First off it wouldn't be racist but rather bigotry.


Even better/worse.

Boomchild wrote:Give the lecturing a rest. Many politicians have used references to "God" or a "religion" to support their actions, positions and policies. It wasn't solely created by this administration. If anything it's "pot meet kettle".
To clarify this is not to say that I personally am endorsing it.


:lol: What a hypocrite. This from the guy who gets off on typing up 500-word responses to three-line posts. Rich, man. Rich.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:41 am

verslibre wrote:Always amusing when somebody proffers an example of the extreme. "I shot an unarmed burglar for attacking my mother with a crowbar; the burglar sued and won. Why did I get fucked?"

You guys cannot tolerate ANY criticism of Le Don. So who needs to grow up?


"Le Don" didn't create our immigration laws. CONGRESS did. "Le Don" is seeing that the law is enforced. If you have a beef with the law contact and petition your Congressman.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:48 am

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:lol: What a hypocrite. This from the guy who gets off on typing up 500-word responses to three-line posts. Rich, man. Rich.


No it's just that YOU can't provide a counter response to the truth I posted. If our immigration laws and practices concern you, then get involved and do something about it. BTW, it's more like a 353 word response.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:48 am

Boomchild wrote:
verslibre wrote:Always amusing when somebody proffers an example of the extreme. "I shot an unarmed burglar for attacking my mother with a crowbar; the burglar sued and won. Why did I get fucked?"

You guys cannot tolerate ANY criticism of Le Don. So who needs to grow up?


"Le Don" didn't create our immigration laws. CONGRESS did. "Le Don" is seeing that the law is enforced. If you have a beef with the law contact and petition your Congressman.


What does that have to do with treating criticism of the guy like some kind of kryptonite? :lol:
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:54 am

verslibre wrote:I'll grow up when you stop suckin' up, buddy.


You are falsely trying to draw a contrast between the "rosy" Obama years and today by mentioning an employer's prerogative to fire an employee.
That action has nothing to do with Obama or Trump. It does have EVERYTHING to do with you being up to your eyes in Obama's brillowy nest of pubes.
If you don't like it, maybe suggest the cartoonists in PA unionize.

verslibre wrote:Now answer the question. :lol:


Multiple political cartoonists were in trouble due to their depictions of Obama.
Most notable incidents involved the Boston Herald and the NY Post. Not sure if they were fired. Again, that's up to their employer.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:58 am

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verslibre wrote:
:lol: What a hypocrite. This from the guy who gets off on typing up 500-word responses to three-line posts. Rich, man. Rich.


No it's just that YOU can't provide a counter response to the truth I posted. If our immigration laws and practices concern you, then get involved and do something about it.


You didn't counter. You commented. Look up the definition of each word. The invocation of Biblical doctrine only works when the invoking entity is one who upholds it. And that's something you will NOT be able to "prove," especially when the only doctrine that is constantly subscribed to nowadays is hypocrisy. :lol:
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:00 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Multiple political cartoonists were in trouble due to their depictions of Obama. Most notable incidents involved the Boston Herald and the NY Post. Not sure if they were fired. Again, that's up to their employer.


Catching some heat is to be expected. Termination isn't. And shouldn't be. Unless the definition of what a political cartoonist does, or can do, is changing.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:09 am

verslibre wrote:You didn't counter. You commented. Look up the definition of each word. The invocation of Biblical doctrine only works when the invoking entity is one who upholds it. And that's something you will NOT be able to "prove," especially when the only doctrine that is constantly subscribed to nowadays is hypocrisy. :lol:


No, your post was to infer that it is the current administration that came up with our immigration laws. They didn't. Their just enforcing them. As to your second comment, the fact still remains that many other politicians do the very same thing. To which I stated that DOESN'T mean that I approve or endorse it. The long and short of it is, if you don't like it then get involved to change it.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:12 am

Too bad your word program doesn't help with contractions. :lol:
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:15 am

verslibre wrote:Catching some heat is to be expected. Termination isn't. And shouldn't be. Unless the definition of what a political cartoonist does, or can do, is changing.


In my opinion media organizations are ultimately responsible for the content they publish. They have the right to control it and if they choose, they can edit or remove employees that produce content they wish not to publish.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:20 am

Boomchild wrote:
verslibre wrote:Catching some heat is to be expected. Termination isn't. And shouldn't be. Unless the definition of what a political cartoonist does, or can do, is changing.


In my opinion media organizations are ultimately responsible for the content they publish. They have the right to control it and if they choose, they can edit or remove employees that produce content they wish not to publish.


They could have just not published it, then, and given the guy a memo — and subsequently, a choice.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:58 am

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They could have just not published it, then, and given the guy a memo — and subsequently, a choice.


Of course. But the fact is it was their decision and theirs alone to make. Perhaps there is more background between this individual and the company that is not public that caused them to make the decision to fire him.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:06 am

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They could have just not published it, then, and given the guy a memo — and subsequently, a choice.


Of course. But the fact is it was their decision and theirs alone to make. Perhaps there is more background between this individual and the company that is not public that caused them to make the decision to fire him.


He probably swiped the editor's favorite donut, the one with the chocolate sprinkles, that he was warned to leave in the box.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:29 am

verslibre wrote:He probably swiped the editor's favorite donut, the one with the chocolate sprinkles, that he was warned to leave in the box.


And the fact remains neither you nor I know the history this person had with their employer. In the end what this company did was perfectly legal.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:32 am

Since we are on the subject of illegal immigration, here is a response by Thomas Homan to be being accused of being anti-immigrant. Homan is the acting director of immigration. Sums the subject up very accurately. His statement begins at 4:23.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkvYpoTmRjM
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:35 am

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verslibre wrote:He probably swiped the editor's favorite donut, the one with the chocolate sprinkles, that he was warned to leave in the box.


And the fact remains neither you nor I know the history this person had with their employer. In the end what this company did was perfectly legal.


Of course. I just asked if somebody ever got fired over an Obama toon.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:52 am

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Boomchild wrote:First off it wouldn't be racist but rather bigotry.


Even better/worse.


BTW, I'm sure you can site specific case(s) where someone DID NOT have our immigration laws applied to them simply based on their race.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:13 am

verslibre wrote:
Of course. I just asked if somebody ever got fired over an Obama toon.


You may want to look at this.

Teacher Robert Duncan Fired For Obama Cartoons Fights For His Job Back

Their teacher, Robert Duncan, was fired earlier this month from Boyet Junior High School in Slidell for displaying the students' depictions of President Barack Obama, which some found violent and racially charged. But during his appeal, other teachers in the southeast Louisiana city have stepped up to passionately defend their former colleague.

https://www.aol.com/2012/08/27/teacher- ... ns-fights/


And this.....

NAACP calls for firing of N.Y. Post cartoonist

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Leaders of the NAACP on Saturday called for the firing of the New York Post cartoonist whose drawing lampooning the federal stimulus bill has drawn charges that it's racist and encourages violence toward President Obama.

Many critics said the cartoon played on historically racist images by appearing to compare Obama, the nation's first black president, to a chimpanzee that had been shot by police officers.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/21/chimp. ... index.html


And this.......

Ex-Post Editor: I Was Fired for Speaking Out Over Obama Monkey Cartoon

A former editor for The New York Post, who is suing the paper for allegedly firing her after she complained about a cartoon that likened President Obama to a chimp, alleges in court papers that the the newspaper is a hotbed of sexism, racism and sexual harrasment.

Sandra Guzman, who lost her job in October, filed a 38-page complaint against News Corporation, which owns the Post, and the paper's editor-in-chief Col Allan in federal court this week, accusing the defendants of harassment and "unlawful employment practices and retaliation," reports the Huffington Post.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/P ... 80052.html
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:16 am

Boomchild wrote:Since we are on the subject of illegal immigration, here is a response by Thomas Homan to be being accused of being anti-immigrant. Homan is the acting director of immigration. Sums the subject up very accurately. His statement begins at 4:23.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkvYpoTmRjM


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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:21 am

ohsherrie wrote:I wish everybody who wants to live in a sanctuary city would move to Central America and start a community for all of these people they're trying to protect from enforcement of our immigration laws.


Why don't you move to Norway? You might like it.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:50 am

Boomchild wrote:You may want to look at this.


Alrighty.

Boomchild wrote:Teacher Robert Duncan Fired For Obama Cartoons Fights For His Job Back


I see. I meant actual newspapers, rags, publications, etc. That was something a teacher posted in a hallway at a junior high school.

Yeah, not surprised by the consequence of that impulse. :lol:

Boomchild wrote:And this.....

NAACP calls for firing of N.Y. Post cartoonist

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Leaders of the NAACP on Saturday called for the firing of the New York Post cartoonist whose drawing lampooning the federal stimulus bill has drawn charges that it's racist and encourages violence toward President Obama.

Many critics said the cartoon played on historically racist images by appearing to compare Obama, the nation's first black president, to a chimpanzee that had been shot by police officers.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/21/chimp. ... index.html


An outside organization, not the Post, called for a cartoonist to be fired. Not the Post itself.

"To them, no apology is due," the paper wrote. "Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon -- even if the opportunists seek to make it something else."


(Was he actually fired? The article doesn't say.)

Boomchild wrote:And this.......

Ex-Post Editor: I Was Fired for Speaking Out Over Obama Monkey Cartoon

A former editor for The New York Post, who is suing the paper for allegedly firing her after she complained about a cartoon that likened President Obama to a chimp, alleges in court papers that the the newspaper is a hotbed of sexism, racism and sexual harrasment.

Sandra Guzman, who lost her job in October, filed a 38-page complaint against News Corporation, which owns the Post, and the paper's editor-in-chief Col Allan in federal court this week, accusing the defendants of harassment and "unlawful employment practices and retaliation," reports the Huffington Post.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/P ... 80052.html


That's not about a cartoonist drawing a cartoon, racially-imbued or otherwise. That's about an editor speaking OUT about a cartoon that likens a dead chimp to Obama. There's a lot more to that story, too:

She also claims she was subjected to racist jokes from editors who mocked her Hispanic heritage by singing "I want to live in America" from "West Side Story" whenever she walked by their offices, reports the Huffington Post.


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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:19 am

verslibre wrote:Catching some heat is to be expected. Termination isn't. And shouldn't be. Unless the definition of what a political cartoonist does, or can do, is changing.


It's a private company and Pennsylvania is an at-will state. Job expectations and definitions are not set by you or the government. You sound very very naive.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:22 am

You sound cocksure, but who's counting? :lol:
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Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:03 am

Don't take it personally, FF. I merely thought she might enjoy its landscape. :lol:
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Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:09 am

Want some Chex Mix? Bold Party Blend...mmmm.
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Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:09 am

Fact Finder wrote:
verslibre wrote:Don't take it personally, FF. I merely thought she might enjoy its landscape. :lol:


Yeah, I think you might enjoy the landscape on Mars, the pics look intriguing on TV. Kinda rocky, like the coast of Norway, and you can invite anyone you want to join you.


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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:19 am

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verslibre wrote:Want some Chex Mix? Bold Party Blend...mmmm.


I like Flaming Hot Cheetos but thanks for the offer.


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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:17 am

Fact Finder wrote:
verslibre wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:I wish everybody who wants to live in a sanctuary city would move to Central America and start a community for all of these people they're trying to protect from enforcement of our immigration laws.


Why don't you move to Norway? You might like it.


Why don’t you move to Canada or France with Rosie and the other malcontents...oh wait, they were full of shit, just like you. I imagine Sherrie likes this Country just fine...the way it is, not the way some think it should be.


And it's getting better every day. In fact we're going to make it GREAT again! #MAGA :wink:
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