They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[ohsherrie]

People like Monker aren’t mad that families are separated, if they were this would have been an issue 3,4,5 ears ago, it wasn’t. They are mad that Trump and Co. are enforcing the law.

Yes, and now the Democratic Party has become a sinking ship and they see these kids as there life preservers.

[ohsherrie]

Today a couple Democrats made a point to say that Comey disclosed the investigation of Hillary but not the investigation into Trump showing that there was bias in Trumps favor.

And some of them used their opening statements to talk about subjects that have absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the hearing.

I know and the guy who feigned an emotional breakup made me laugh out loud.

[ohsherrie]

I got the distinct feeling from Horowitz in both hearings that he would have liked to had said a lot more than he did. I think he made it pretty plain that he would have loved to have been able to find some documented or testimonial proof that there was bias in the prosecutors conclusion.

I think he as good as told us that there was bias in the material that was presented to the prosecutor.

[steveo777]

There was a woman on TV tonight, who is a hispanic immigration attorney. She called bullshit on the MSM and Dem's narrative that these kids are being ripped out of their parent's arms and put in cages. Due to a 1996 law, under the Clinton Admin, people who enter the country seeking asylum are put into detention centers until their cases are adjudicated. I'm good with this, as we have no idea who these people are, if they are allowed to be disbursed into the cities. Children do not belong among the general population among adults, in a detention center. According to the immigration attorney, there used to be family detention centers, but a judge ruled that they cannot be licensed to care for children. So that argument is out the window also.

This whole debacle is an issue Democrats think they are going to use for political capital in the midterm elections. They refuse to come to the table on any fix for immigration issues. The Democrats own this situation. I hope the voters are wise and awake, but I won't hold my breath.

[Monker]

This whole debacle is an issue Democrats think they are going to use for political capital in the midterm elections. They refuse to come to the table on any fix for immigration issues. The Democrats own this situation. I hope the voters are wise and awake, but I won't hold my breath.

It started with Jeff Sessions enacting the administrations "zero tolerance" policy as some type of deterant.

Therefore, if what you say is true and it is all a political attempt to influence the elections, then all Trump has to do is order Sessions to change the policy. Then he thwarts the entire plan. Simple, really.

But, of course what you are saying is just repeating Republican talking points anyway. There are other bills in congress to address this situation on its own. Bills that won't see a vote because Trump the Tyrant wants an immigration bill HIS WAY, without compromise. Democrats should not change their stance on things like "the wall" just because Trump is stating this bullshit.

This goes back to the fact that Trump is a failed negotiator and leader. The only real legislation he has passed is tax reform...everything that requires compromise he has failed at. So, now he has to lie about a policy that Sessions was on TV explaining a year ago that was to be used as a deterant.

This isn't complicated - everybody knows the truth of what is going on - and it does not involve the Democrats.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It started with Jeff Sessions enacting the administrations "zero tolerance" policy as some type of deterant.

Therefore, if what you say is true and it is all a political attempt to influence the elections, then all Trump has to do is order Sessions to change the policy. Then he thwarts the entire plan. Simple, really.

You would still have waves of undocumented minors coming from Central America w/out parents. This has been a problem since 2014 - anyone remember Glenn Beck giving these kids teddy bears and getting laughed at? So you are not really proposing any sort of solution whatsoever. Just more bitching and virtue signaling. Maybe we should drop all these illegals off in a big empty corn field in Iowa. Your state has plenty of space. Assclown.

[ohsherrie]

This whole debacle is an issue Democrats think they are going to use for political capital in the midterm elections. They refuse to come to the table on any fix for immigration issues. The Democrats own this situation. I hope the voters are wise and awake, but I won't hold my breath.

It started with Jeff Sessions enacting the administrations "zero tolerance" policy as some type of deterant.

Therefore, if what you say is true and it is all a political attempt to influence the elections, then all Trump has to do is order Sessions to change the policy. Then he thwarts the entire plan. Simple, really.

But, of course what you are saying is just repeating Republican talking points anyway. There are other bills in congress to address this situation on its own. Bills that won't see a vote because Trump the Tyrant wants an immigration bill HIS WAY, without compromise. Democrats should not change their stance on things like "the wall" just because Trump is stating this bullshit.

This goes back to the fact that Trump is a failed negotiator and leader. The only real legislation he has passed is tax reform...everything that requires compromise he has failed at. So, now he has to lie about a policy that Sessions was on TV explaining a year ago that was to be used as a deterant.

This isn't complicated - everybody knows the truth of what is going on - and it does not involve the Democrats.

It's entirely the Democrats. The laws that are being enforced with zero tolerance are laws passed by the Democrats. The situation at the border is being ridiculously over hyped by Democrats and their MSM partners because they have no other issue to run on in the midterms.

I would like to see what would happen if the facilities those idiots visited to get photo ops would have just unlocked the doors and said "Here, you sort them out and take care of them". Most of those kids don't even have parents here to give them to. They were brought by smugglers. Of course the Dems would like to see them put into our foster care system so they can become Dreamers, live their entire lives on welfare, go to college free and vote Democratic.

As for the wall, it is the ONLY thing that will stop this shit and you know it, but you don't want to stop it. That's half of the Democratic voting base.

If you should choose to reply to this, and please don't feel obligated to do so, if you parse it into bits and pieces I WON'T reply.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Yet to hear anybody in this thread arguing for more immigration judges or temporary family holding centers.
If anybody is using these children for political purposes, it is frauds like Monker, who propose ZERO solutions.

[ohsherrie]

Here's one liberal solution.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Here's one liberal solution.

Didn't he say he wants Barron trump surrounded by pedophiles also? Sick dude.

[ohsherrie]

Yet to hear anybody in this thread arguing for more immigration judges or temporary family holding centers.
If anybody is using these children for political purposes, it is frauds like Monker, who propose ZERO solutions.

This is not about these children, never has been. The target here is Trump and to get people’s minds off of North Korea, IG Report, Good Economy, et ct...

Exactly, this situation has existed at least since 2014 as your LA Times link proves, were these oh so concerned Democrats and news media unaware of what their president was doing?

[ohsherrie]

The first thing I did was ask you to quote the law that he is enforcing. Can you? I don't think you can.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._Flores

And an Executive Order can't override a judicial decision.

[ohsherrie]

Yet to hear anybody in this thread arguing for more immigration judges or temporary family holding centers.
If anybody is using these children for political purposes, it is frauds like Monker, who propose ZERO solutions.

Ted Cruz has a bill written that would do exactly that, but Schumer has said the Senate Dems won't sign it.

[verslibre]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/former-border-patrol-agent-to-current-agents-refuse-orders-to-separate-children_us_5b2935fde4b05d6c16c808c3

[ohsherrie]

There were some brave FBI Agents that sacrificed their careers to save our country that we'll never know who they were. Now we know the truth about what Comey released one week before the eelection and why he was FORCED to release info about it.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/0 ... good-cops/

I hope we can get past this immigration mess so somebody might take he can i me to dig into this.

President Trump has broken no laws but he's being crucified for enforcing laws while the corrupt FBI and Clinton/Obama cadre are now being ignored.

[ohsherrie]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/affording-congress-opportunity-address-family-seperation/

And the ACLU is already filing a suit. We all know the ACLU is a liberal organization.

[Boomchild]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/affording-congress-opportunity-address-family-seperation/

And the ACLU is already filing a suit. We all know the ACLU is a liberal organization.

Filing suit for what exactly?

[verslibre]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/affording-congress-opportunity-address-family-seperation/

And the ACLU is already filing a suit. We all know the ACLU is a liberal organization.

Filing suit for what exactly?

They're not. She thinks her Magic 8-Ball works.

[ohsherrie]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/affording-congress-opportunity-address-family-seperation/

And the ACLU is already filing a suit. We all know the ACLU is a liberal organization.

Filing suit for what exactly?

For inhuman treatment of detainees. Andrew Cuomo says he's suing because there were some kids in NY City and their constitutional rights were denied (how do they have constitutional rights) and some Guatemalan woman is suing because her child was taken away from her. They've only just begun to pile on and keep this the only issue until after November and then find something in all the mess to use as grounds for impeachment.

[verslibre]

Is this real or satire/parody?

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1009470783163428864

[Seven Wishes]

Jesus, this fact-free jerk circle just never ends, does it?

Factoids are not facts. Quite the opposite. Look it up. Where the fuck do you people do your research, the sixteen-volume "library" of the fallout shelter in Glenn Beck's back yard? It's unbelievable.

Every time Cheetolini does a 180 and completely contradicts himself, the right-wing blogs and "news" sites engage in all-out reverse engineering that would make their Nazi standard bearers and predecessors pasty white with envy.

Seriously, it's just remarkable.

This was NOT. NOT an Obama or Clinton policy. Period, end of story. The zero tolerance policy falls squarely on the slumping fascist shoulders of the Cheeto Benito.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/holmes-lybrand/fact-check-did-democrats-pass-a-law-separating-children-and-adults-at-the-southern-border

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/

But of course, you intellectual troglodytes will immediately start spinning this like only the truly brainwashed can - and I'm ready. Don't mistake my lack of responses until 9 pm as capitulation or any kind of affirmation - I have clients until then and can't check in to see the stinking, festering monkey shit you ignoramuses start hurling around.

[Boomchild]

To keep the issue...keep it in the news...target Trump...take your mind off the good things that are happening...separate Trumps voters from him if possible.(it isn't)

I was looking more for the specifics of filing suit.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Jesus, this fact-free jerk circle just never ends, does it?

Factoids are not facts. Quite the opposite. Look it up. Where the fuck do you people do your research, the sixteen-volume "library" of the fallout shelter in Glenn Beck's back yard? It's unbelievable.

Every time Cheetolini does a 180 and completely contradicts himself, the right-wing blogs and "news" sites engage in all-out reverse engineering that would make their Nazi standard bearers and predecessors pasty white with envy.

Seriously, it's just remarkable.

This was NOT. NOT an Obama or Clinton policy. Period, end of story. The zero tolerance policy falls squarely on the slumping fascist shoulders of the Cheeto Benito.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/holmes-lybrand/fact-check-did-democrats-pass-a-law-separating-children-and-adults-at-the-southern-border

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/

But of course, you intellectual troglodytes will immediately start spinning this like only the truly brainwashed can - and I'm ready. Don't mistake my lack of responses until 9 pm as capitulation or any kind of affirmation - I have clients until then and can't check in to see the stinking, festering monkey shit you ignoramuses start hurling around.

Lots of insults and no solutions. Anybody else noticing a trend?

Last time you were here 7, you were babbling about Flynn and the Russians right before ABC News had to retract their reporting. I don't think you should be lecturing anyone about facts.

[ohsherrie]

https://www.fairus.org/legislation/repo ... ation-laws

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ation_laws

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... g-history/

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/fil ... report.pdf

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. ... stem-works

https://immigration.procon.org/view.tim ... eID=000023

[ohsherrie]

To keep the issue...keep it in the news...target Trump...take your mind off the good things that are happening...separate Trumps voters from him if possible.(it isn't)

I was looking more for the specifics of filing suit.

If there is any real basis for these suits more specifics will come out. Right now they're just like a bunch of coyotes scrambling in to try to grab a piece of it.

The only differences between what our President has been doing and what Obama was doing are that is that Trump was enforcing the laws as they were written and Obama was releasing them on their own recognizance to never show up again. I guess it doesn't pay to follow the law too rigidly.

[ohsherrie]

Whoo boy..

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/obam ... ssion=true



Look at those poor kids over there>>>>

OMG!
What will they make of this?

[ohsherrie]

Zero Tolerance simply means enforcing the laws as they are written. It isn't a new concept. It's sad that people think it is.

If a drunk driver ran you off the road and killed members of your family you would be furious. Then when you find out he had been stopped by a cop, that the breatholizer checked .09 but the cop thought he was ok to drive would you think it was ok for the cop to exercise tolerance? Neither do the families of people killed by illegal immigrants who were released until their court dates.

[ohsherrie]

Whoo boy..

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/obam ... ssion=true



Look at those poor kids over there>>>>

OMG!
What will they make of this?

Stand down because the intrusions were not coming from Russia, couldn’t have anyone find that out. Right lil berry?

But we can't worry about that because we have something happening live that we can twist Trump up with.

These people only care about getting rid of Trump. To hell with the economy, to hell with the lives of American citizens. They must get rid of Trump at all and any cost.

[Seven Wishes]

Lots of insults and no solutions. Anybody else noticing a trend?

Last time you were here 7, you were babbling about Flynn and the Russians right before ABC News had to retract their reporting. I don't think you should be lecturing anyone about facts.

Jesus, really? Who the fuck hacked your account? I just POSTED IRREFUTABLE FACTS. Good Lord. What's insulting is how people on this board peddle in easily debunked conspiracy theories while letting Trump shred the Constitution and destroy our democracy.

Last time I checked, Flynn pleaded guilty. Quite literally NOTHING has come out exonerating him in any way whatsoever.

At what point does country prevail over party for all of you? What does it take? This tribalism is terrifying. One need only scroll back a few weeks to see where most people who post on this board completely flipped their positions as soon as the Gropfenfuhrer did one of his patented about-faces.

BTW, what is more likely? That a cabal of Republicans and traditional conservatives have conspired by the thousands to frame a lifelong liberal-turned-GOP fascist for electioneering, racketeering, gerrymandering, obstruction of justice, money laundering, and treason? Or that Adolf Twittler is guilty? Occam's Razor, anyone?

Good God. You people are gullible.

[verslibre]

If a drunk driver ran you off the road and killed members of your family you would be furious. Then when you find out he had been stopped by a cop, that the breatholizer checked .09 but the cop thought he was ok to drive would you think it was ok for the cop to exercise tolerance? Neither do the families of people killed by illegal immigrants who were released until their court dates.

https://twitter.com/johnpavlovitz/status/1009536891882962950