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Postby steveo777 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:34 pm

Memorex wrote:I've always held a theory about work-related things - if it is important, management will do things to indicate this. Such as assigning the proper amount of resources, etc. If you are not interested in giving the top guy a raise, then don't tell me he was important and you have a lot of concerns when they quit.

Russia and other countries (and Soros) have been doing this stuff forever. And apparently they had this gigantic concern about it, but zero was done. I never heard any tough talk about Russia during the Obama admin. If Russia is so evil, why give control of Uranium to a company there? Why get paid for speeches there? Why work with their people to create a salacious document about your opponent? The FBI not taking possession of the server tells me all I need to know about how concerned they are. Zero.

I haven't feared Russia one ounce since the 90s. And I see that most of the cold war was just BS. Russia will no more nuke us than themselves. Will they continue to manipulate American-related things such as elections and economics - yep. And we do it as well. As does China and every other country with an interest of having some type of control.

People need to chill and relax a bit.


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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:48 pm

Some seem to hold a gleam of hope in that some results will come from Huber. Before you hold that hope, note what Huber is actually charged with doing. He is not conducting and investigation but rather doing a review. Check out Jeff Sessions' letter to members of Congress regarding it. Look at the first paragraph on page four of the letter.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3751215 ... G-Horowitz
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:58 pm

So Trump back peddles on his comment about not being on board with our intelligence agency's statement that Russia hacked the DNC servers and "meddled" in our last general election. So what are we supposed to make of that?
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby tj » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:33 pm

Boomchild wrote:So Trump back peddles on his comment about not being on board with our intelligence agency's statement that Russia hacked the DNC servers and "meddled" in our last general election. So what are we supposed to make of that?


He's either brilliant and no one sees it, or he opened his mouth the first time without thinking (which he is prone to do). He has probably said that numerous times in private and it just came out in public. He's not known for carefully choosing his words.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:42 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Those "Freedom of Speech" liberals.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/0 ... ve-voices/

This is Soros money through Tides Foundation.


Until you close the gap that allows foreign entities to contribute money towards election campaigns, mainly through these superpacs this kind of stuff will continue to be a problem. Since all politicians love the ability to be able to collect these contributions, I doubt we will see legislation to end it.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:59 am

Boomchild wrote:So Trump back peddles on his comment about not being on board with our intelligence agency's statement that Russia hacked the DNC servers and "meddled" in our last general election. So what are we supposed to make of that?


No one knows if they hacked and no one knows if it was the actual government that meddled. Impossible to determine if they hacked without seeing the server. All indications is that the data was not downloaded via hack, but was downloaded more locally.

If you are a person that has been accused, and you are not guilty, then you automatically are going to suspect that they are not being honest. And no part of me thinks the intelligence community in regards to all of this is leading an honest effort. They are simply a conviction in search of a crime.

Check this out - Trump says he never colluded. Trump says the Dems made a lot up as a "blame" for losing. If he had of stood there and said "Yea, all that stuff I said, sure, but I believe Russia did it all.", it would make no sense. None. I'm disappointed he is back peddling. He needs to hold the FBI and Justice Dept's feet to the fire to root out the partisan criminals. This is true no matter who goes down.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:02 am

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Check this out - Trump says he never colluded. Trump says the Dems made a lot up as a "blame" for losing. If he had of stood there and said "Yea, all that stuff I said, sure, but I believe Russia did it all.", it would make no sense. None. I'm disappointed he is back peddling. He needs to hold the FBI and Justice Dept's feet to the fire to root out the partisan criminals. This is true no matter who goes down.


Seems odd coming from a person that claimed he wants to "drain the swamp". Where is the push back? Where is the call for releasing the evidence?
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:16 am

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:53 pm

Memorex wrote:
Boomchild wrote:So Trump back peddles on his comment about not being on board with our intelligence agency's statement that Russia hacked the DNC servers and "meddled" in our last general election. So what are we supposed to make of that?


No one knows if they hacked and no one knows if it was the actual government that meddled. Impossible to determine if they hacked without seeing the server. All indications is that the data was not downloaded via hack, but was downloaded more locally.

If you are a person that has been accused, and you are not guilty, then you automatically are going to suspect that they are not being honest. And no part of me thinks the intelligence community in regards to all of this is leading an honest effort. They are simply a conviction in search of a crime.

Check this out - Trump says he never colluded. Trump says the Dems made a lot up as a "blame" for losing. If he had of stood there and said "Yea, all that stuff I said, sure, but I believe Russia did it all.", it would make no sense. None. I'm disappointed he is back peddling. He needs to hold the FBI and Justice Dept's feet to the fire to root out the partisan criminals. This is true no matter who goes down.


I think he would if not for the midterms coming up. He won't be able to function if he gets saddled with a liberal congress.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:05 am

Boomchild wrote:Some seem to hold a gleam of hope in that some results will come from Huber. Before you hold that hope, note what Huber is actually charged with doing. He is not conducting and investigation but rather doing a review. Check out Jeff Sessions' letter to members of Congress regarding it. Look at the first paragraph on page four of the letter.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3751215 ... G-Horowitz


So, as I understand it, Huber is going to decide what, if anything, needs more investigation or further legal action.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:31 am

ohsherrie wrote:So, as I understand it, Huber is going to decide what, if anything, needs more investigation or further legal action.


That is what it looks like to me. Just another person making "recommendations". Not handing out indictments or prosecuting ANYTHING.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:36 am

Boomchild wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:So, as I understand it, Huber is going to decide what, if anything, needs more investigation or further legal action.


That is what it looks like to me. Just another person making "recommendations". Not handing out indictments or prosecuting ANYTHING.


If that's the case can somebody please tell me what Sessions's purpose is?
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:57 am



Interesting to note, there are hundreds email chains, from 2016-2017 alone, in the evidence list. Manafort’s current trial date is scheduled to start on July 25. If found guilty of alleged crimes, ranging from money launder to bank fraud, he may be looking at spending the rest of his life in prison.


Evidence related to alleged crimes UNRELATED to what Mueller's appointment to special prosecutor was for. It has nothing to do with Trump\Russian collusion allegations. So here we still are with Mueller providing nothing that relates to the purpose of the investigation.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

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Postby tj » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:17 pm

Apparently Trump is asking Putin for a "do-over" on the summit thing. Next time in Washington. Does he really believe that the press and Democrats are going to give him a better review on the second attempt? What's Putin gain from it and why would he risk letting Trump look like the winner next time?
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:23 am

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ssion=true

Robert Mueller offers Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort: Report

Tony Podesta, founder of the now-shuttered Podesta Group and brother to former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, has been offered immunity by special counsel Robert Mueller to testify against former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, according to a report.

Fox News' Tucker Carlson announced on his show Thursday evening that two separate sources confirmed the offer.

"In other words, for a near identical crime, Bill and Hillary's friend could escape and emerge completely unscathed while Paul Manafort may rot in jail. Only one of them made the mistake of chairing Donald Trump's presidential campaign," Carlson said.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:32 am

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Last night, John Solomon of The Hill revealed that he has obtained information from sources who heard Page's testimony in two days of sworn depositions behind closed doors that she offered a bombshell confirmation of the meaning of one of the most enigmatic text messages that the public has seen (keep in mind that there are many yet to be released).


I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:07 am

People scoffed at the assertion that politicians saw illegal aliens as future voters. Seems to me this violates federal law. Hello Sessions????

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby slucero » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:24 pm

Opinion: One FBI text message in Russia probe that should alarm every American

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/397902 ... y-american

By John Solomon
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Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, the reported FBI lovebirds, are the poster children for the next “Don’t Text and Investigate” public service ads airing soon at an FBI office near you.

Their extraordinary texting affair on their government phones has given the FBI a black eye, laying bare a raw political bias brought into the workplace that agents are supposed to check at the door when they strap on their guns and badges.

It is no longer in dispute that they held animus for Donald Trump, who was a subject of their Russia probe, or that they openly discussed using the powers of their office to “stop” Trump from becoming president. The only question is whether any official acts they took in the Russia collusion probe were driven by those sentiments.

The Justice Department’s inspector general is endeavoring to answer that question.

For any American who wants an answer sooner, there are just five words, among the thousands of suggestive texts Page and Strzok exchanged, that you should read.

That passage was transmitted on May 19, 2017. “There’s no big there there,” Strzok texted.

The date of the text long has intrigued investigators: It is two days after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein named special counsel Robert Mueller to oversee an investigation into alleged collusion between Trump and the Russia campaign.

Since the text was turned over to Congress, investigators wondered whether it referred to the evidence against the Trump campaign.

This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say — but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses.

The admission is deeply consequential. It means Rosenstein unleashed the most awesome powers of a special counsel to investigate an allegation that the key FBI officials, driving the investigation for 10 months beforehand, did not think was “there.”

By the time of the text and Mueller’s appointment, the FBI’s best counterintelligence agents had had plenty of time to dig. They knowingly used a dossier funded by Hillary Clinton’s campaign — which contained uncorroborated allegations — to persuade the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court to issue a warrant to monitor Trump campaign adviser Carter Page (no relation to Lisa Page).

They sat on Carter Page’s phones and emails for nearly six months without getting evidence that would warrant prosecuting him. The evidence they had gathered was deemed so weak that their boss, then-FBI Director James Comey, was forced to admit to Congress after being fired by Trump that the core allegation remained substantially uncorroborated.

In other words, they had a big nothing burger. And, based on that empty-calorie dish, Rosenstein authorized the buffet menu of a special prosecutor that has cost America millions of dollars and months of political strife.

The work product Strzok created to justify the collusion probe now has been shown to be inferior: A Clinton-hired contractor produced multiple documents accusing Trump of wrongdoing during the election; each was routed to the FBI through a different source or was used to seed news articles with similar allegations that further built an uncorroborated public narrative of Trump-Russia collusion. Most troubling, the FBI relied on at least one of those news stories to justify the FISA warrant against Carter Page.

That sort of multifaceted allegation machine, which can be traced back to a single source, is known in spy craft as “circular intelligence reporting,” and it’s the sort of bad product that professional spooks are trained to spot and reject.

But Team Strzok kept pushing it through the system, causing a major escalation of a probe for which, by his own words, he knew had “no big there there.”

The answer as to why a pro such as Strzok would take such action has become clearer, at least to congressional investigators. That clarity comes from the context of the other emails and text messages that surrounded the May 19, 2017, declaration.

It turns out that what Strzok and Lisa Page were really doing that day was debating whether they should stay with the FBI and try to rise through the ranks to the level of an assistant director (AD) or join Mueller’s special counsel team.

“Who gives a f*ck, one more AD like [redacted] or whoever?” Strzok wrote, weighing the merits of promotion, before apparently suggesting what would be a more attractive role: “An investigation leading to impeachment?”

Lisa Page apparently realized the conversation had gone too far and tried to reel it in. “We should stop having this conversation here,” she texted back, adding later it was important to examine “the different realistic outcomes of this case.”

A few minutes later Strzok texted his own handicap of the Russia evidence: “You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I’d be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big there there.”

So the FBI agents who helped drive the Russia collusion narrative — as well as Rosenstein’s decision to appoint Mueller — apparently knew all along that the evidence was going to lead to “nothing” and, yet, they proceeded because they thought there was still a possibility of impeachment.

Impeachment is a political outcome. The only logical conclusion, then, that congressional investigators can make is that political bias led these agents to press an investigation forward to achieve the political outcome of impeachment, even though their professional training told them it had “no big there there.”

And that, by definition, is political bias in action.

How concerned you are by this conduct is almost certainly affected by your love or hatred for Trump. But put yourself for a second in the hot seat of an investigation by the same FBI cast of characters: You are under investigation for a crime the agents don’t think occurred, but the investigation still advances because the desired outcome is to get you fired from your job.

Is that an FBI you can live with?

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby scarab » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:20 pm

Boomchild wrote:People scoffed at the assertion that politicians saw illegal aliens as future voters. Seems to me this violates federal law. Hello Sessions????

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Yes, I see these illegals causing havoc voting on school boards. :roll: :lol:

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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:52 pm

scarab wrote:Yes, I see these illegals causing havoc voting on school boards. :roll: :lol:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/san-f ... istration/


If you are not a legal citizen you are not eligible to vote in ANY election. It all starts somewhere. This does not surprise me since CA is allowing a individual to run for office who openly admits he is here illegally and used a fake SS number. The only "rights" an illegal alien has is a right to fair trial concerning their illegal entry into the country.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:04 am

slucero wrote:Is that an FBI you can live with?


No and I hope Ms. Page's testimony will prompt Rosenstien to stop this multimillion dolls witch hunt.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:52 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Maybe Don and Vlad had a good talk about George behind those doors. I sure would like to see vlad get ahold of George.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07 ... os-lackey/


Me too! He is causing more harm to our electoral process than any other country besides Mexico.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:53 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
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slucero wrote:Is that an FBI you can live with?


No and I hope Ms. Page's testimony will prompt Rosenstien to stop this multimillion dolls witch hunt.


Rosenstein is behind what you want him to stop.


I just saw it on Twitter.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:25 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Lets expose more liberal felonies for nothing.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/0 ... ed-courts/


People's attention, concern and outrage over the corruption in our government is too late in the game. Here's another tidbit: Reports are that Sessions knew about the FISA warrant (renewal) on Carter Page and passed it to Rosenstein to take the heat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqQ6_FvGYq0
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:38 pm

I'm beginning to think that while Trump would like to see things change, he values staying above room temperature more.
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Postby Boomchild » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:54 pm

The Irony of things amazes me. You hear all this talk that our justice department shouldn't be politicized and yet Trump appoints a career politician to head the DOJ.
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