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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:44 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Very fair breakdown of the economic news courtesy of liberal economist, Dean Baker:

"Donald Trump has gotten some well-deserved ridicule his boasts about the "amazing" economy. While the 4.1 percent growth figure reported for the second quarter is impressive, it is hardly qualifies as amazing. There were four quarters in the Obama years with faster growth. Going back before the Great Recession there were many quarters with much more rapid growth. My favorite is the second quarter of 1978, back when Jimmy Carter was president, and the economy grew at a 16.4 percent rate.

But getting beyond Donald Trump's conception of "amazing," the real issues are whether the rate is sustainable and whether Trump's policies deserve credit. On the second point, his tax cut almost certainly deserves some of the credit for the quarter's growth. The tax cut is putting more than $150 billion into people's pockets this year. While it is true that the bulk of this money is going to the rich, who will spend a smaller share of their tax cut than a middle income household, the extent to which they will increase their spending is not zero.

A quick check on whether people are spending their tax cut is the saving rate. If people are not spending the tax cut, the saving rate should jump. There has been a modest increase, with an average of 7.0 percent in first half of 2018 compared to 6.7 percent for 2017. This would suggest that people are spending the bulk of the their tax cuts. This assessment requires an important qualification: savings data are subject to very large revisions, so when we have the final data for the first half of 2018, it may look very different from what the numbers show now.

Consumption increased at a 4.0 percent annual rate in the quarter, making it the largest contributor to the quarter's growth. This is largely a bounce back from weak growth of 0.5 percent in the first quarter. The two quarter average is 2.3 percent, which is respectable, but hardly exceptional. It is certainly plausible that consumption will continue to grow at roughly this pace.

Non-residential investment grew at a 7.3 percent annual rate, adding 0.98 percentage points to growth for the quarter. This is respectable rate, but hardly in keeping with the investment boom story that provided the rationale for the corporate tax cut.

Furthermore, the biggest factor in the jump in investment was an increase in investment in mining structures (primarily oil and gas drilling) of 97.1 percent. While this increase may be partly attributable to Trump's drill everywhere policy, the more likely cause is the increase in world oil prices from around $40 a barrel three years ago to close to $70 today.

There were similar increases in spending on drilling under Obama. For example, it rose at 84.5 percent and 65.9 percent annual rates in the first and second quarters of 2010 as energy prices jumped back from recession lows. Whether or not Trump gets credit depends on whether we think he is responsible for the rise of world oil prices.

Much has been made of a surge in exports that seems to be the result of an effort by foreigners to stock up in anticipation of retaliatory tariffs. This is very plausible. Net exports added 1.06 percentage points to growth. This surge will not recur in future quarters. That means net exports will likely be a drag on growth.

However, this effect will be largely offset by inventories. A reduction in inventories subtracted a percentage point from growth in the second quarter. This component will almost certainly add to growth in the next two quarters.

One item that deserves attention is the 1.1 percent drop in residential investment, the second consecutive quarterly decline. This is a modest drag on growth, but more importantly it indicates that housing construction may be leveling off. This means that we may not see the increase in housing supply needed to put a check on rental inflation.

The Fed's interest rate hikes are the immediate culprit here, as the anticipation of higher short-term rates have caused the 30-year mortgage rate to increase by roughly a percentage point from levels of two years ago. The tax cuts do play a role also, since the Fed is (rightly or wrongly) responding to what it sees as the risk that the tax cuts may over-stimulate the economy, causing inflation.

On net, we can say that the economy is likely getting some near-term boost from the tax cut, which could lead to a growth rate of close to 3.0 percent in 2018. It is difficult to see this persisting into 2019, unless we see a pick up in productivity growth as the labor market tightens and employers are forced to pay higher wages.

It is important to point out that for almost everyone but economist types, growth does not mean anything. People care about whether they have a job and whether their pay is rising. On the last point, the news has not been good, as real wages have been flat over the last year.

However, it is important to note that without the increase in energy prices they would have risen 0.5-0.7 percent. That is not a great story given how much ground has to be made up for workers to get their share of growth, but at least it is movement in the right direction. And, as the energy price hikes of last summer move out of the 12-month window, we will be looking at real wage gains of 0.5 to 0.7 percent, what workers were seeing before Donald Trump became president."


For a liberal I think he's being very conservative with his prognostications.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:22 am

ohsherrie wrote:What, if anything, has the President done that could legitimately be considered obstruction of justice? I think that threat has a lot to do with his reluctance to mess with Sessions and the DOJ.


0Hour1 an anon, makes some very good points about Mueller's last gasp at nailing Trump. It seems that this may let us know just who the allies and enemies are in the Republican party. I agree with 0Hour1 here in that Trump needs to fire Sessions and Rosenstein NOW. Trump has nothing to lose at this point. Role the dice Don.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzlaJHc5rJA
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Memorex » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:15 am

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Boomchild wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:What, if anything, has the President done that could legitimately be considered obstruction of justice? I think that threat has a lot to do with his reluctance to mess with Sessions and the DOJ.


0Hour1 an anon, makes some very good points about Mueller's last gasp at nailing Trump. It seems that this may let us know just who the allies and enemies are in the Republican party. I agree with 0Hour1 here in that Trump needs to fire Sessions and Rosenstein NOW. Trump has nothing to lose at this point. Role the dice Don.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzlaJHc5rJA


Trump is on fire on Twitter today.


The majority of Americans feel the Mueller stuff is bias and overkill and is searching for anything, which is so far against our constitution it's not funny. I know I posted in the beginning of all this that I didn't understand why the Dems were pushing this. There was zero upside for them. It was clear out of the gate that the Obama admin and the FBI was working far outside the lines to help Hillary. And to this day, there have been zero trump-related indictments and a whole lot of exposed corruption on behalf of the Dems or Deep State. Trump obviously knows all of this and has the cover of knowing nothing against him will come of it. The worst that could happen is the Dems take control of the house next year, shut all the investigations down, and everyone of those corrupt officials walk. They could impeach, and maybe the Senate would even convict. But if you want a civil war, that's how you get a civil war. Too many people would not accept that.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:37 am

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The majority of Americans feel the Mueller stuff is bias and overkill and is searching for anything, which is so far against our constitution it's not funny. I know I posted in the beginning of all this that I didn't understand why the Dems were pushing this. There was zero upside for them. It was clear out of the gate that the Obama admin and the FBI was working far outside the lines to help Hillary. And to this day, there have been zero trump-related indictments and a whole lot of exposed corruption on behalf of the Dems or Deep State. Trump obviously knows all of this and has the cover of knowing nothing against him will come of it. The worst that could happen is the Dems take control of the house next year, shut all the investigations down, and everyone of those corrupt officials walk. They could impeach, and maybe the Senate would even convict. But if you want a civil war, that's how you get a civil war. Too many people would not accept that.


I hate to say it, but regardless of what happens in the midterm elections or anything for that matter, nobody that you think should be prosecuted will be. I think it's time that people move on from the false hope that they will. If that is what people want, then your going to have to do it by civil war.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby tj » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:50 pm

Boomchild wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:What, if anything, has the President done that could legitimately be considered obstruction of justice? I think that threat has a lot to do with his reluctance to mess with Sessions and the DOJ.


0Hour1 an anon, makes some very good points about Mueller's last gasp at nailing Trump. It seems that this may let us know just who the allies and enemies are in the Republican party. I agree with 0Hour1 here in that Trump needs to fire Sessions and Rosenstein NOW. Trump has nothing to lose at this point. Role the dice Don.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzlaJHc5rJA


Trump knows that Mueller has nothing on him so he's letting it play out. With Republicans and Democrats saying that they would throw a fit if he fires Rosenstein, Trump is smart just to wait until Mueller is through screwing around, puts out a report, then fire Sessions and Rosenstein for incompetence with Mueller's report that shows Trump did nothing wrong to back him up.

Trump doesn't have the wall, but has gotten most everything else he has been focused on delivering. His approval keeps holding at levels that got him elected, despite Democrats, half of the Republicans and all of the press going ballistic every time he farts. Wait until the Mueller show is over, start firing people, and say that the whole Russia conspiracy thing is what the swamp gets you. I think he has a much stronger hand waiting it out.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:57 am

Boomchild wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:What, if anything, has the President done that could legitimately be considered obstruction of justice? I think that threat has a lot to do with his reluctance to mess with Sessions and the DOJ.


0Hour1 an anon, makes some very good points about Mueller's last gasp at nailing Trump. It seems that this may let us know just who the allies and enemies are in the Republican party. I agree with 0Hour1 here in that Trump needs to fire Sessions and Rosenstein NOW. Trump has nothing to lose at this point. Role the dice Don.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzlaJHc5rJA



I agree, he needs to get rid of the part of the opposition that he can control and make sure Mueller is one of them.


F.F., I saw some of his tweets this morning.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:14 am

Boomchild wrote:
Memorex wrote:
The majority of Americans feel the Mueller stuff is bias and overkill and is searching for anything, which is so far against our constitution it's not funny. I know I posted in the beginning of all this that I didn't understand why the Dems were pushing this. There was zero upside for them. It was clear out of the gate that the Obama admin and the FBI was working far outside the lines to help Hillary. And to this day, there have been zero trump-related indictments and a whole lot of exposed corruption on behalf of the Dems or Deep State. Trump obviously knows all of this and has the cover of knowing nothing against him will come of it. The worst that could happen is the Dems take control of the house next year, shut all the investigations down, and everyone of those corrupt officials walk. They could impeach, and maybe the Senate would even convict. But if you want a civil war, that's how you get a civil war. Too many people would not accept that.


I hate to say it, but regardless of what happens in the midterm elections or anything for that matter, nobody that you think should be prosecuted will be. I think it's time that people move on from the false hope that they will. If that is what people want, then your going to have to do it by civil war.


There will be a civil war. I don't know if it will be in my lifetime but it will come. Trump has shown us what can be achieved if our government puts America first and a lot of people aren't going to settle for the swamp as usual again.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:45 am

Trump's tweets against the Koch Bros is great:

The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade. I never sought their support because I don’t need their money or bad ideas. They love my Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judicial picks & more. I made.........them richer. Their network is highly overrated, I have beaten them at every turn. They want to protect their companies outside the U.S. from being taxed, I’m for America First & the American Worker - a puppet for no one. Two nice guys with bad ideas. Make America Great Again!
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:56 am

tj wrote:
Trump knows that Mueller has nothing on him so he's letting it play out. With Republicans and Democrats saying that they would throw a fit if he fires Rosenstein, Trump is smart just to wait until Mueller is through screwing around, puts out a report, then fire Sessions and Rosenstein for incompetence with Mueller's report that shows Trump did nothing wrong to back him up.

Trump doesn't have the wall, but has gotten most everything else he has been focused on delivering. His approval keeps holding at levels that got him elected, despite Democrats, half of the Republicans and all of the press going ballistic every time he farts. Wait until the Mueller show is over, start firing people, and say that the whole Russia conspiracy thing is what the swamp gets you. I think he has a much stronger hand waiting it out.


I hope you're right.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby steveo777 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:27 pm

Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Trump's tweets against the Koch Bros is great:

The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade. I never sought their support because I don’t need their money or bad ideas. They love my Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judicial picks & more. I made.........them richer. Their network is highly overrated, I have beaten them at every turn. They want to protect their companies outside the U.S. from being taxed, I’m for America First & the American Worker - a puppet for no one. Two nice guys with bad ideas. Make America Great Again!



Steve Bannon: ‘If you take Koch money there’s punishment’

Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon cautioned GOP candidates from accepting funds for the 2018 midterm elections from the Koch political donor network, or face a “punishment.”

"You take Koch money, it's going to be toxic," Bannon said in an interview with CNBC. "We are going to let people know that if you take Koch money there's a punishment. If you take money from people who are against the president and are looking to put a knife in the back of the president, you are going to pay."

"We are going to find out who they [the donors] are. We are going to identify people who the Kochs back. We're not just g
oing to sit there and allow them to destroy the Trump presidency," Bannon said.



Nobody should take "cock money." lol
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:29 am

Ryan sounded a little bit snippy there when he said "I wouldn't throw that word "impeachment" around lightly in this term."



NEWS Hollywood Actor Bruce Willis: ‘Trump Is The Best US President Ever, Anyone Who Dislikes Him Should Move To…’

Hollywood actor Bruce Willis once again expressed his unconditional support for President Donald Trump in a recent interview with Jimmy Fallon, although these days it’s very unusual for him to be supported by any Hollywood star. When Willis was asked about his opinion on Trump’s presidency so far he said: “I think that he’s doing great. In fact, he just might be the best US President ever.”

Fallon then asked him if he was serious about this statement because it would definitely sound like an exaggeration to many people. Willis responded:

“Yeah I’m being serious about this. Trump has always been a winner and to be honest I can’t think of a better man to lead America at this moment.” Bruce Willis is one the few conservatives in Hollywood who are not afraid to express their support for President Trump. He has always been a fan of Trump and everything that he represents – a successful businessman and a role model for every young American.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:16 am

http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/30/fac ... -not-trump

"COLLUSION
The Facts Behind The Trump Tower Meeting Are Incriminating, But Not For Trump
The real colluders with Russia are the Democrats, intelligence agencies, and corporate media. The facts about the Trump Tower meeting only reinforce that."


Good read, lots of information.
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:05 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Mueller team takes another pounding.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/0 ... ort-trial/


I wonder if Mueller's team is concerned about cross examination by the defense or what doors his testimony could possibly open?
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:14 pm

Fact Finder wrote:What if an illegal alien uses a plastic straw in a sanctuary city? :?


Depends. Are they from a country that typically would vote conservative or liberal? If the latter, they will be celebrated for their resistance.
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Postby Boomchild » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:48 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Starbucks now has paper straws. Of course they come wrapped in plastic.


While they are concerned about plastic straws littering the city streets, there are thousands of used needles littering the streets from junkies. The city hands out thousands of clean needles to them every month. San Fran is turning into a literal cesspool. Hotel owners are up in arms because the junkies, homeless and mentally ill that roam the streets are scaring visitors away.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:04 am

Fact Finder wrote:Ahem....


Federal prosecutors said to be investigating lobbyist Tony Podesta after special counsel referral

Federal prosecutors in New York are following a referral from special counsel Robert Mueller's office, NBC News reports.
The individuals being investigated include former lobbyist Tony Podesta, former Minnesota Republican Rep. Vin Weber and former Obama White House Counsel Greg Craig.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/01/tony-po ... erral.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/31/poli ... index.html


I hope this is the beginning of many investigations into the Obama/Clinton cadre.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:35 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Not often NBC News lets truth slip out.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/trum ... nt-n896526


Maybe they're beginning to realize that their ratings are going to tank unless they stop the Anti-Trump BS.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:47 am

Fact Finder wrote:Hey Monker, Andrew and verslibre...and others, go to page 71 and scroll a bit.... :shock:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-conten ... -of-24.pdf


Is that what I think it is? :?:
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:00 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Here's a little more F.F.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08 ... obama-doj/


Since when does the FBI negotiate over evidence? Michael Cohen sure didn't get a chance to negotiate.
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Postby Boomchild » Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:48 am

Fact Finder wrote:Reminder that there are 3 servers in question.

1. Hillary’s famous 33,000 email private server.
2. The DNC server that was hacked by Russia or maybe just accessed by Seth Rich(where Podesta emails came from)
3. The Awan House Server that ensnares some 30 plus Dem house members in Paki espionage. Washerman-Schulz


Also, I thought I read somewhere that one of laptops in the Awan case has gone "missing".
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Postby Boomchild » Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:50 am

ohsherrie wrote:Since when does the FBI negotiate over evidence? Michael Cohen sure didn't get a chance to negotiate.


When they are involved in a government coup. That's when.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:13 pm

Perhaps you heard about the NYT employee, an Asian woman, who posted racist tweets toward white people.
Jesse Watters had Terrence Williams on his show last night. At the end of the segment, Jesse said "Terrence, now you're in trouble."
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You know you have a corrupt government when the citizens have to bring lawsuits against it in order obtain information that by law is supposed to be available to them.
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Postby Boomchild » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:10 pm

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the assassination attempt by drones on the Maduro, Venezuela's president. Of course they inferred that our government was involved. Which I think is comical. First of all if we were, he'd be dead. Second, he is doing just fine on destroying himself and his country.
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Postby ohsherrie » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:40 pm

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You know you have a corrupt government when the citizens have to bring lawsuits against it in order obtain information that by law is supposed to be available to them.


I think of the irony of it every time I read of another, FOIA request by Judicial Watch. I know that no FOIA request can be denied because in a former job I was responsible for answering them, and you have only a short amount of time to do it before it goes to the courts. You're allowed to redact sensitive or classified information but you must fulfill the request.

But the Congress can be ignored. These Represetatives or Senators should have a civilian family member file a FOIA request.
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