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Postby MarcelJordan » Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:03 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:
Eyeof wrote:to be honest, at this point i think i wish they would have just went out and found a guy that sounded like the other two and moved on, kind of like Chicago did in the late 80's, or even like some would argue they did before....


Opinion: From the typically oversuperlative way Frankie describes the current lineup and McCauley in particular it seems to me his mind was made up to do the McCauley thing as kind of an indulgence of a pet project: ie: really digs my man, has wanted for a while to see what survivor would be like with him, will have a 2-3 year MAYBE 1 album trial and if it's a failure we'll be reading the praises of Dave again or about how Jimi is "Golden Throat" again.

That's not to say the grand McCauley experiment won't work, just a contigency plan.


Sounds like a great album title "The Grand McCauley Experiment" :lol:
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Postby patrick Colin » Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:24 pm

Slander wrote:Can we all give this chance. Just a thought.


Agree with you. Survivor with Robin McAuley is different and the vocals on EOTT are ok for me. Just wait for a new album (just hope not to wait more 18 years!) to be able to judge with new material Survivor with Robin. Let the music do the talking!

And to come back to the subject, happy to see the performance. Not the tv show that i really enjoy, but a good thing to give Survivor more exposure with Robin.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:39 pm

I've said 48 times already that I AM behind the current lineup and look forward to the new album, hopefully soemtime before I'm 60.

To another point that's been raised, re: McCauley's renditions of Eye. THAT song is just so Dave it's gonna be impossible for 95% of people who hear it sung by someone else not to think it sounds off. I adore the hell out of Jamo and HE never sounded right singing that thing.

Same with McCauley. The other Dave songs covered by Jimi/Robin sound perfectly fine, but Eye never works. The cunundrum lies in that as their biggest hit, they can never skip Eye.
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:10 am

JOPA, I agree. Dave is the only one who can give E0TT that street feel. I would also like to see Frankie grab Robin and do something very bluesy. Survivor could do something like Great Whites "Rock Me."
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:24 am

You are righit red...It kind of reminds me of Van Halen...I love Sammy Hagar to death as well, but Jump was Roth's song...Sammy never sounded right on it and to top that he always looked very uncomfortable...

Now I'm the same as you guys...I don't mind the McAuley thing...especially if it means they'll put out a damn album before I'm 75....

One interesting thing though, I had the Kansas boot on and a friend of mine was in the car. He heard McAuley on EYOT and was like "that's awful". He's not a Survivor fan, but he asked me 'shouldn't the number one requirement to be in the band is to sing that song well?"

With that said, McAuley was a lot better last week than on that Kansas boot...and thank GAWD frankies background mike wasn't on...LOL
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:29 am

Eyeof wrote: He heard McAuley on EYOT and was like "that's awful". He's not a Survivor fan, but he asked me 'shouldn't the number one requirement to be in the band is to sing that song well?"


Nope. It SHOULD'NT be a requirement. That was my point exactly, it could be Lucianno Fuckin Pavorotti and he wouldn't sound right singing Eye.
It's an intangible thing, but no frontman they hire but Dave can sound right on it ergo, that's no measuring stick.
Maybe guys who are Bickler-like could pull if off I guess like Perry, Chalfont, Hugo, Geoff Tate, Castronovo, Augeri but no one who doesn't sound like that and neither JJ or Mac do, is going to sound right.
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Postby Franky » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:18 pm

Just watched it for the first time,... Man that sucked!
We got that same crap show over here in Germany - Couldn't believe my favourite group would participate in that one over in the US ...
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Postby jsmac32raider » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:36 pm

Hey 7. . . . . .I agree with you completely man. This CANNOT be the lead singer of Survivor. If they even have the slightest faint of getting back into the public eye (for real), they need a different man under that microphone.

I can't believe that anyone that actually LISTENED to the vocals during "dancing with the stars" could possibly have anything positive to say about the lead singer and the voice.

It was a complete disaster. I've mentioned it in a couple of posts now, but, it truly made me sick.

I love Survivor as much as any human being on earth. But this is NOT Survivor.
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Postby Eyeof » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:40 pm

what if they call it the McAuley Survivor Group...or MSG for short? Has that been tried before? hehehe
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Postby Slander » Tue May 01, 2007 1:27 am

Eyeof wrote:what if they call it the McAuley Survivor Group...or MSG for short? Has that been tried before? hehehe


Eye, I for one would love to see Robin bust out "LOVE IS NOT A GAME" or "ANYTIME". I think that could only add to the fan base. I also think the band should experiment with some blues stuff. Robin's voice is suited to that. I for one can't wait to hear the new record. Anything has to be better than Jamo's weak vocals on Reach. The record was uninspired. I recall all the posts ripping Jamo's vocals on the record. Where is that criticism now? Clearly his chops are not the same.
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Postby Slander » Tue May 01, 2007 1:30 am

jsmac32raider wrote:Hey 7. . . . . .I agree with you completely man. This CANNOT be the lead singer of Survivor. If they even have the slightest faint of getting back into the public eye (for real), they need a different man under that microphone.



First they are back in the public Eye. They never performed in front of 20 million people with Jamo in front of the mic. Secondly, I never accepted Jamo as the lead singer of Survivor. I found myself saing this CANNOT be the lead singer of Survivor.
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Postby MarcelJordan » Wed May 02, 2007 12:25 pm

Slander wrote:
jsmac32raider wrote:Hey 7. . . . . .I agree with you completely man. This CANNOT be the lead singer of Survivor. If they even have the slightest faint of getting back into the public eye (for real), they need a different man under that microphone.



First they are back in the public Eye. They never performed in front of 20 million people with Jamo in front of the mic. Secondly, I never accepted Jamo as the lead singer of Survivor. I found myself saing this CANNOT be the lead singer of Survivor.


Glad to see, we are on the same page. :lol: However, with regards to Reach Jamo was pretty good onGimme the Word (closest to DB's edge). Couldn't get into any of the rest, but Talkin' bout love with FS. I was recently playing The one that really matters and then TBL. There are similarities. What you think Slander? 8)
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Postby Slander » Wed May 02, 2007 1:09 pm

I really think Talkin' Bout Love has a signature Survivor sound. These idiots on the board may not realize that Frankie's guitar and harmonies are part of the classic Survivor sound. It's undeniable.
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Postby Eyeof » Wed May 02, 2007 10:40 pm

hey red...i wonder who he's talking about?
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Postby RockInDetroit » Wed May 02, 2007 10:53 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:I've said 48 times already that I AM behind the current lineup and look forward to the new album, hopefully soemtime before I'm 60.

To another point that's been raised, re: McCauley's renditions of Eye. THAT song is just so Dave it's gonna be impossible for 95% of people who hear it sung by someone else not to think it sounds off. I adore the hell out of Jamo and HE never sounded right singing that thing.

Same with McCauley. The other Dave songs covered by Jimi/Robin sound perfectly fine, but Eye never works. The cunundrum lies in that as their biggest hit, they can never skip Eye.


I could not disagree more with you about Jamo not pulling of EOTT. Only diehards can tell the difference. I know people who saw Survivor with Jamo on vocals and when I tell them that he was not the original singer of that song they go....'really?'. I think Jamo does a great job on that song. McCauley on the otherhand, anyone listening to it can tell that Robin is the not original singer.

I agree with another poster that Robin would've been fine with Survivor in the 80's when they had a chance to come up with new hits. Now when Survivor is a nostalgia act, Robin does not work. His vocals are way too different than Dave and Jamo.
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Postby Slander » Thu May 03, 2007 1:16 am

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I agree with another poster that Robin would've been fine with Survivor in the 80's when they had a chance to come up with new hits. Now when Survivor is a nostalgia act, Robin does not work. His vocals are way too different than Dave and Jamo.


Gee, that's funny. I talked to 3 friends of mine who watched DWTS and didn't notice the difference one bit. They don't follow the band. They just like the hits. As far as being a nostalgia act, I think Frankie and the gang have the bar set a bit higher than that. The new record they are working on will prove that. Sorry Detroit this band isn't living in the past, it's moving forward.
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Postby survivorfan2005 » Thu May 03, 2007 10:28 am

nostalgia act? You could say the same thing about Journey, KISS, REO Speedwagon, Starship...etc How could you rank a band in that catagory if they continue to gain followers ((such as Survivor on DWTS, or Robin bringing his fans) I believe there is a good market for these 80's bands, I'm doing a heckuva job gaining followers with my radio station.

I for one believe that America and the world needs to get off this Rap crap and get back to the classics like Survivor... In the long run, Survivor will do just that.. Survive.

(BTW: has anyone heard the actual song called "survivor"? what do you think of it, should it be redone?)
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu May 03, 2007 10:45 am

To me Dave Jamo and McAuley sound nothing alike. NOTHING wrong w/ that either.
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Postby RockInDetroit » Thu May 03, 2007 11:25 am

survivorfan2005 wrote:nostalgia act? You could say the same thing about Journey, KISS, REO Speedwagon, Starship...etc How could you rank a band in that catagory if they continue to gain followers ((such as Survivor on DWTS, or Robin bringing his fans) I believe there is a good market for these 80's bands, I'm doing a heckuva job gaining followers with my radio station.

I for one believe that America and the world needs to get off this Rap crap and get back to the classics like Survivor... In the long run, Survivor will do just that.. Survive.

(BTW: has anyone heard the actual song called "survivor"? what do you think of it, should it be redone?)


Look I love Survivor and bands like them. Don't get me wrong. If you think people going to see Survivor at these festivals are going because they want to hear new stuff you are sadly mistaken. I agree all the bands you mention are also nostalgia bands. Do you hear anything new by any of them anywhere.....how many new songs did Survivor play on Dancing with the Stars? They are all nostalgia bands. It is sad I agree. But we are all about 40 and while we listen to new stuff.......many others our age are more concerned about taking their kids to see the Wiggles. Who do you think sold more cds this past year Survivor or the Wiggles? LOL. Survivor is nostalgia and were on Dancing with the Stars for that purpose.
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