Arrow Rock Fest 2008

by **Liam** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:13 pm

NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

BTW...thanks for killing my favorite Journey song. I'll just listen to the Perry, JSS, and Augeri boots instead.

by **journeypower** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:24 pm

Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

BTW...thanks for killing my favorite Journey song. I'll just listen to the Perry, JSS, and Augeri boots instead.

what else is new? singing old tunes over and over. anyway, thank you for watching the vid and continued support despite the comment. actions speak louder than words. glad you listened eventhough you said you'd rather listen to the trios. just can't get enough of AP. you just love him so much you cant ignore him for a second. that's love.

by **Liam** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:30 pm

journeypower wrote:
Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

BTW...thanks for killing my favorite Journey song. I'll just listen to the Perry, JSS, and Augeri boots instead.

what else is new? singing old tunes over and over. anyway, thank you for watching the vid and continued support despite the comment. actions speak louder than words. glad you listened eventhough you said you'd rather listen to the trios. just can't get enough of AP. you just love him so much you cant ignore him for a second. that's love.

Gee...ya got me there. :roll:

by **Gin and Tonic Sky** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:08 pm

My favorite Journey song, by a mile.

Also agree Soto owned this song.

Not a bad performance from Arnel though- better than his earlier offerings of this song. Arnel actually looks a little more angry and agreesive on this song than he did in earlier peformance , which is what is needed when performing this song but still has along way to go to match the body language Soto and Perry exhibited on this song.

by **corncob** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:06 pm

Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:My favorite Journey song, by a mile.

Also agree Soto owned this song.

Not a bad performance from Arnel though- better than his earlier offerings of this song. Arnel actually looks a little more angry and agreesive on this song than he did in earlier peformance , which is what is needed when performing this song but still has along way to go to match the body language Soto and Perry exhibited on this song.

A "tall order" given AP's physical stature/make-up compared to the two.

by **rdekker** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:40 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2JHLhYD95E Open Arms @ Arrow

by **Tito** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:22 am

Andrew wrote:
Allied Forces wrote:Great quality clip, thanks! I do prefer Soto on this track, but this is a neat recording.

Soto owned this track live. Awesome.

Instigator!!!! :evil:

Anyway, there's a new owner.

by **Tito** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:24 am

Saint John wrote:I found this on the Festival's site: "for their second 100,000."

100,000???

To quote a great man and a legend, "LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT!"

by **Chevypv** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:46 am

Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

BTW...thanks for killing my favorite Journey song. I'll just listen to the Perry, JSS, and Augeri boots instead.

wow, i dont sence an OUNCE of exageration here....sweet chickens, he says fuckin champagne. you guys will complain about ANYTHING. if Steve fuckin Perry came back everyone would complain cause he couldn't sing the high notes anymore.....I HATED the way Augeri pronounce words. Yes, Augeris accent annoyed me more than Arnels.

by **EightyRock** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:33 am

I see the fan base has finally united. :lol:

by **Rick** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:33 am

Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

BTW...thanks for killing my favorite Journey song. I'll just listen to the Perry, JSS, and Augeri boots instead.

I hear it, who gives a shit? The dude got to the U.S. last December and you expect his accent to just disappear at the snap of a finger? That's not very realistic. My aunt moved to the U.S. from Germany over 40 years ago and she still has a bit of an accent. Personally I don't think it's the accent. I don't think you'd like Arnel if he was born and raised in Pearland.

by **Glenn** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:29 am

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Allied Forces wrote:Great quality clip, thanks! I do prefer Soto on this track, but this is a neat recording.

Soto owned this track live. Awesome.

word. i am a bonafide, dyed in the wool, forever and a day loon but that song belongs to Jeff now.

again....word....Soto friggin' rocked on this.

Good job by Arnel though.

by **journeyMusic** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:05 am

Rick wrote:
Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

BTW...thanks for killing my favorite Journey song. I'll just listen to the Perry, JSS, and Augeri boots instead.

I hear it, who gives a shit? The dude got to the U.S. last December and you expect his accent to just disappear at the snap of a finger? That's not very realistic. My aunt moved to the U.S. from Germany over 40 years ago and she still has a bit of an accent. Personally I don't think it's the accent. I don't think you'd like Arnel if he was born and raised in Pearland.

The accent really doesn't bother me that much. I just think that alot of people associate Journey with an American alliance and it just seems odd to hear the accent on many of the songs.Dudes got pipes,no doubt,but the dictation is an issue for some.Thats why this is a public forum-- to allow both of you to voice your opinions.

by **Rick** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:30 am

journeyMusic wrote:
Rick wrote:
Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

BTW...thanks for killing my favorite Journey song. I'll just listen to the Perry, JSS, and Augeri boots instead.

I hear it, who gives a shit? The dude got to the U.S. last December and you expect his accent to just disappear at the snap of a finger? That's not very realistic. My aunt moved to the U.S. from Germany over 40 years ago and she still has a bit of an accent. Personally I don't think it's the accent. I don't think you'd like Arnel if he was born and raised in Pearland.

The accent really doesn't bother me that much. I just think that alot of people associate Journey with an American alliance and it just seems odd to hear the accent on many of the songs.Dudes got pipes,no doubt,but the dictation is an issue for some.Thats why this is a public forum-- to allow both of you to voice your opinions.

Liam and I are alright, we banter back and forth about this crap. It's all good. He's a closet Arnel fan. :twisted:

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:53 am

Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

Just pop in Disc 2 of the Revelation CD set for further proof of this.
It's not a deal breaker in a live concert setting, but on the DVD and Disc 2, it is very distracting.
That's what happens when a band leader afflicted with tintus picks the lead singer, I guess.
That said, Arnel sounds great here.

by **journeypower** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:26 pm

Rick wrote:
journeyMusic wrote:
Rick wrote:
Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

BTW...thanks for killing my favorite Journey song. I'll just listen to the Perry, JSS, and Augeri boots instead.

I hear it, who gives a shit? The dude got to the U.S. last December and you expect his accent to just disappear at the snap of a finger? That's not very realistic. My aunt moved to the U.S. from Germany over 40 years ago and she still has a bit of an accent. Personally I don't think it's the accent. I don't think you'd like Arnel if he was born and raised in Pearland.

The accent really doesn't bother me that much. I just think that alot of people associate Journey with an American alliance and it just seems odd to hear the accent on many of the songs.Dudes got pipes,no doubt,but the dictation is an issue for some.Thats why this is a public forum-- to allow both of you to voice your opinions.

Liam and I are alright, we banter back and forth about this crap. It's all good. He's a closet Arnel fan.

truth be told. :lol:

by **stevew2** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:38 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Liam wrote:NO. Revelation didn't have a DROP of Studio magic. Holy FUCK. He's still singing "Coontraks an liars, Shopping dantown". HOW THE HELL CAN PEOPLE NOT HEAR THIS??

Just pop in Disc 2 of the Revelation CD set for further proof of this.
It's not a deal breaker in a live concert setting, but on the DVD and Disc 2, it is very distracting.
That's what happens when a band leader afflicted with tintus picks the lead singer, I guess.
That said, Arnel sounds great here.

I really like the new Cd, and some of the Disc2. The Dvd sounded okay, I didnt like all the awkward jumping around, and I was wondering when he was going to blow out his voice. He gave it his awe, and I liked most of it. i just cant see him doing it all summer long, I hope he makes it.

by **jrnychick** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:04 pm

I agree that EOTB became Jeff's song, but I am pleasantly surprised by Arnel's performance. He looked like he was having fun, too. Long live the purple shirt!

by **Saint John** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:13 pm

Arnel hit the notes and sang it with the proper tone...impressive.

by **Liam** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:36 pm

Saint John wrote:Arnel hit the notes and sang it with the proper tone...impressive.

Notes and tone weren't my problem though. It seemed like he was making the WORDS up as he went along.

Forgive me...this is the MAIN song I will be VERY critical about.

by **Saint John** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:41 pm

Liam wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arnel hit the notes and sang it with the proper tone...impressive.

Notes and tone weren't my problem though. It seemed like he was making the WORDS up as he went along.

Forgive me...this is the MAIN song I will be VERY critical about.

No problems here. We all hear things differently. Yes, the words do need to be polished up. Nothing time shouldn't be able to fix.

by **Liam** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:07 am

Saint John wrote:
Liam wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arnel hit the notes and sang it with the proper tone...impressive.

Notes and tone weren't my problem though. It seemed like he was making the WORDS up as he went along.

Forgive me...this is the MAIN song I will be VERY critical about.

No problems here. We all hear things differently. Yes, the words do need to be polished up. Nothing time shouldn't be able to fix.

For you, mabye. This just ain't my "Cup of...er...beer". :lol:

by **southtexan** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:14 am

jon cain jumping with AP. mark 2:40, 3:55. lol!

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=wZn9YAP6Juw

by **SteveForever** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:19 am

southtexan wrote:jon cain jumping with AP. mark 2:40, 3:55. lol!

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=wZn9YAP6Juw

say what? you call that jumping?

anyway, it would be cool to hear Neal and company play something
other than Journey at the concert just for fun, like Van Halen...

by **conversationpc** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:19 am

southtexan wrote:jon cain jumping with AP. mark 2:40, 3:55. lol!

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=wZn9YAP6Juw

That's the most animated I've seen him in a long time.

by **mdaemon** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:41 am

SteveForever wrote:
southtexan wrote:jon cain jumping with AP. mark 2:40, 3:55. lol!

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=wZn9YAP6Juw

say what? you call that jumping?

anyway, it would be cool to hear Neal and company play something
other than Journey at the concert just for fun, like Van Halen...

The problem with this is that Arnel is trying to shake off his reputation as a cover band singer. I also see the odd comment from fans that Journey is just a tribute/cover band nowadays so I am not sure if performing another band's music is a good idea for them.

by **southtexan** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:11 am

SteveForever wrote:
southtexan wrote:jon cain jumping with AP. mark 2:40, 3:55. lol!

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=wZn9YAP6Juw

say what? you call that jumping?

anyway, it would be cool to hear Neal and company play something
other than Journey at the concert just for fun, like Van Halen...

hop, maybe? still not enough? :lol:

better than his usual grouch on piano though.

MR

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