Jeremey wrote:(3) Arnel sounded just enough like Perry but he could also sing Bon Jovi and Whitesnake, so he was versatile enough to cover whatever else was thrown his way (which to this date has been Perry covers, aside from the occasional post-Perry live performance).
brywool wrote:Love ya Jeremey, but this is not an accurate statement.
Arnel's done two albums of NEW music in 4 years. That's two more than Perry's done in 16 years.
Pretty "accurate." On Revelation, Arnel "spent an entire disc" mocking Steve Perry, and did not bother to write any of that supposed "NEW music." How many platinum albums and how many songs did Steve Perry write/co-write and how many did Pineda? Steve Perry is retired and Pineda spends his time copying Perry. Perry spends years helping/creating a legacy that has to be mocked, but yet you wish to bash him for retiring, while giving credit to AP for two albums of non-writing and maybe?
When one comes out karaoking in the manner of Pineda, one better have some mean creative skills in one's arsenal or one may have to become accustomed to being called what it is or appears to be.
brywool wrote:This included doing a lot of those tunes (though only a few from Eclipse) live, and not occasionally, which have also been released on DVDs. The Revelation tour saw a lot of those songs being done live around the world. The Eclipse tour had a fair amount of those songs being done live too... until they got to America where we have the attention span of a 4-year old and just wanted to hear the DD.
Yeah for all the good that did for they are back to playing the DD even that Da Do song. The "live around the world" comments did not have Eclipse blowing up the charts and/or selling. Night Ranger "sang their hits," but Journey seemed to have had "three issues." Guess VH and Bruce Springsteen avoid the ones with the "attention span of a 4-year old" when they play new songs.
brywool wrote:To keep saying that all he does is "Sing the Perry covers" is not accurate. Why do people begrudge someone else's good fortune?
Semantics maybe, but that is about all that's been done lately and probably will be done in the future so "he can sing anything" is irrelevant. The question is, who cares. Guess it's unavoidable if an artist sounds like another, but to make it your mission to sound-alike many can be disrespectful and insulting. So it is not "begrudge" as it is not able to respect.
You probably should progress not digress. Bottom line is no one wants to hear any new stuff.
brywool wrote:Journey has said all along that "Steve's welcome to come up and sing anytime he wants". Neal shot his mouth off a time or two, but you know, paying a guy that did the work two decades ago as a sixth member of the band would drive any rational person nuts. Perry made his money from Journey. He still makes money off of royalties. There's no reason for him to make money as if he were out there touring. That'd bug any musician out there working. Royalties, sure. Tour pay? No. They KNOW Perry will never take them up on the offer to sit in.
They are still playing the "work [from] two decades ago." If they paid him "as a sixth member" they should, for after all they have had "a series of SP sound-alikes to keep the franchise alive and profitable." "They use his cadence like their own personal property." They have basically stolen his vocal identity with s/one who seemingly has no artistic respect. AP should have come in co-writing "Never Walk Away" not the guy not chosen. SP should continue to make money " as if he is touring" for the music he helped create is what keeps them touring. I wonder does it "bug any musician" to be mocked. It is good "they KNOW" Perry will not go to that level, but guess they'll say w/ever to stay afloat when Youtube story and Eclipse are past/passed.
brywool wrote:Arnel has been (as Augeri was too) nothing but classy about the past. The dude deserves credit.
Guess "classy" is in the "eyes of the beholder." Steve Perry would be more akin to "classy. "Don't see respectable as singing your "idols' entry/exit songs in his former band when the friction is well-known. Pineda does not really sound like Perry, so he kinda mockingly copies, learned to "SNL" many, kinda like words just poured in. Augeri deceived the FANS by lipping and has been thrown under the bus/ignored by the band more times than one, but he manages to continue to tag along if allowed (kept in background).
Perhaps if Augeri had held his ground and not lipped, the band may have respected him more, and maybe he should have just stepped away instead of being forced. If Perry did show up at a concert, do not think they would hide him backstage even though some of you speak of "what he did to the band" or resentful that he continues to make money from his "blood, sweat and tears." No one passed a "torch" to him and with "GH" on the charts do not think he has passed a "torch."