OT: SUPER BOWL XLII

[Enigma869]

Yeah, I can stomach the MLB all-star game. I don't like the idea of basing home field advantage in the World Series, though, on an all-star game but at least it makes it semi-interesting.

That's the whole point of why it's even a remotely relevant game...because something important is determined by it! The reality is that in most other sports (especially the NFL), most guys simply aren't interested in participating in the Pro Bowl, unless it's their first time! When you have a bunch of guys who have no desire to spend a week in Hawaii, something is very wrong! Because of the nature of football, they could never and would never hold the "all star" game, at any point, during the season! We're stuck with irrelvant, boring games, that nobody give's a rat's ass about! Unfortunately, for we football fans, it all comes to an end, about 10pm on Sunday night!

I think we're all in for a great game. I really respect the Giants and their players. They carry themselves well, and never get caught saying idiotic things (with the exception of Osi). I've also always had a ton of respect for Tom Coughlin. The guy has always been a no-nonsense, solid x and o's football coach! The nutbags who always whine about how tough of a coach he is are the same idiots who cry about how unfriendly Bellichick is! Who gives a shit how nice and cordial your coach is! It's about winning games...not appeasing the media yahoos and fans! The NFL is full of coaches who are friendly and smile a lot. They also lose a lot! I'll take the monotone, boring Bellichick all day long over a guy who thinks he's performing at the local comedy club!


John from Boston

[NealIsGod]

Here's some added motivation for the Giants, as if they needed any.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/160078 ... pe_snp_500

[lights1961]

Since my Packers are not in the Super Bowl... i could care less... hehe

[larryfromnextdoor]

Since my Packers are not in the Super Bowl... i could care less... hehe

same for me .. i might just go shopping,, guitar center... dont you think they will have NO traffic and will be wanting to make a sale??

[Enigma869]

Here we go again!!!!!


http://screamingsports.com/en/articles/ ... x?a=529584


John from Boston

[NealIsGod]

GLENDALE, Ariz. — Tom Brady laughed off a marriage proposal Tuesday from a woman in a white wedding gown and flowing veil during Super Bowl XLII media day at University of Phoenix Stadium, where the sports media were joined as usual by unusual representatives from around the world.

With a pack of reporters around Brady, Ines Gomez Mont, 24, of TV Azteca in Mexico, sat on the shoulders of two assistants and shouted her proposal to the New England Patriots quarterback.

"What's your name first?" Brady asked.

She said she was the "real Miss Brady" and repeated her offer.

"I've got a few Miss Bradys in my life," said Brady, dating Brazilian model Gisele Bundchen and the father of a child born last summer to ex-girlfriend and actress Bridget Moynahan.

Gomez Mont said she would gladly become one more Miss Brady.

"No, I'm a one-woman man," Brady said. "But you're beautiful. Anybody who would have the opportunity to marry you would be a lucky man."

When the New York Giants took their turn later, Gomez Mont also struck out with a marriage proposal to quarterback Eli Manning.

Gomez Mont said she will actually be married soon to a man in Mexico. What if Brady or Manning had said yes? "I would have told the Mexican guy, 'Thanks for everything,' " she said.

[NealIsGod]

Another reason to root for the Giants.

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/politi ... xml&coll=1

[Enigma869]

Another reason to root for the Giants.

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/politi ... xml&coll=1

FUCK THE GIANTS! For the record, I've always been a Coughlin fan. He's an old school, no nonsense football coach, and the NFL needs more coaches like Coughlin! That said, some of us don't have it in our DNA to root for ANYTHING New York! I remember after 9/11, everyone was saying that we should all get behind the Yankees to win it all (The Yankees were in the playoffs a month after the tragedy). Even then my attitude was "Fuck the Yankees"! The events of 9/11 did nothing to change who my allegiances are to! I also never viewed 9/11 as something that happened to New York or Boston (both planes that crashed in NY originated from Boston). It was a tragedy that happened to our entire country! Okay...enough of my rant! The Giants are losing this game, period, end of story! The Patriots played their absolute worst game of the season against the Giants, and the Giants played their absolute best game of the season, and guess who still won the game


John from Boston

[NealIsGod]

Why the fuck isn't anyone talking about the Super Bowl?

This should piss John from Boston off real good...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-pla ... 729.column

An excerpt:

The first thing you notice about Tom Brady is, well, nothing.

He doesn't have a nick on his face because today's referees won't allow it.

He doesn't have a growl to his voice because today's huddles don't require it.

He doesn't have fire in his eyes because today's teams don't need it.

Tom Brady is fantastic, but he's formula. He's a champion, but he's a creation. And to anoint him as the best quarterback ever would be to forget that his position was invented, inspired and made famous by those who were neither.

[conversationpc]

Tom Brady is fantastic, but he's formula. He's a champion, but he's a creation. And to anoint him as the best quarterback ever would be to forget that his position was invented, inspired and made famous by those who were neither.[/i]

Brady would have to follow up this year's performance with another one like it before he would be better than Peyton Manning.

[Saint John]

Tom Brady is fantastic, but he's formula. He's a champion, but he's a creation. And to anoint him as the best quarterback ever would be to forget that his position was invented, inspired and made famous by those who were neither.[/i]

Brady would have to follow up this year's performance with another one like it before he would be better than Peyton Manning.

You're fuckin' high, Dave. This is the first year that Brady has good receivers. In the past it was hodge podge of late round picks and his ability to disperse the ball that made him effective. And they've always had a pretty mediocre running game...at best!!!Manning has had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for YEARS...both of whom will probably be Hall Of Famers. Shit, Harrison is already a no-brainer. Not to mention that Dallas Clark is awesome and a pro-bowler. He also had Edgerinn James ( a perrenial pro-bowler) and now a solid runner in Addai. Brady finally got Moss, Welker and Stallworth...Welker and Stallworth having been average elsewhere. And they still don't have much of a running game. Dillon was good for a year and got old fast and Maroney has been hurt parts of the whole year. There have been times that Brady had to throw 15-20 plays IN A ROW and couldn't be stopped. Both teams have great O lines. Brady is leaps and bounds better than that fucking cry baby Manning. If it weren't for pumping artificial crowd noise and turning the heat up in that shit dome last year, Manning would still be the biggest loser in pro sports. In my eyes, he still is. Fuck that guy.

[Rhiannon]

All All-Star games are boring.

So are political debates.

[conversationpc]

You're fuckin' high, Dave.

I've never been drunk or high a day in my life, thanks.

This is the first year that Brady has good receivers. In the past it was hodge podge of late round picks and his ability to disperse the ball that made him effective. And they've always had a pretty mediocre running game...at best!!!Manning has had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne for YEARS...both of whom will probably be Hall Of Famers. Shit, Harrison is already a no-brainer. Not to mention that Dallas Clark is awesome and a pro-bowler. He also had Edgerinn James ( a perrenial pro-bowler) and now a solid runner in Addai.

These will all be valid points if Brady can string together several seasons in a row like Manning's had.

Besides that, Harrison was out for most of the season and Addai only had three decent games out of the last 11 the Colts played. Clark is a good player but he still only caught 58 balls for just over 600 yards, although 11 were for TDs. Anyway, Manning still had a great year this year despite the injuries and a weaker running game (not much over 100 yds/game).

Brady is leaps and bounds better than that fucking cry baby Manning.

MOST pro athletes are crybabies.

[larryfromnextdoor]

I've never been drunk or high a day in my life, thanks.

if you ever go to a party,, and the guys find out your not drinking.. and they say,, well,, you want some cookies or brownies.. PASS on that ..

[conversationpc]

I've never been drunk or high a day in my life, thanks.

if you ever go to a party,, and the guys find out your not drinking.. and they say,, well,, you want some cookies or brownies.. PASS on that ..

I know all about that...I remember reading a Gene Simmons interview where he got high on brownies, not knowing what was in them. Funny stuff.

[RedWingFan]

I've never been drunk or high a day in my life, thanks.

if you ever go to a party,, and the guys find out your not drinking.. and they say,, well,, you want some cookies or brownies.. PASS on that ..

I know all about that...I remember reading a Gene Simmons interview where he got high on brownies, not knowing what was in them. Funny stuff.

And remember what it did to Reverend Jim!!!

[Enigma869]

Brady would have to follow up this year's performance with another one like it before he would be better than Peyton Manning.

While you may feel that way, Dave...I can tell you there aren't many who will agree with you. This is the old Dan Marino versus Joe Montana debate. There aren't a lot of people outside of Miami who think Marino was a better QB than Montana was (myself included), and if you look at the numbers, Marino's numbers are soooooooo far ahead of Montana that it's really not even close. That said, Montana has four rings...Marino has ZERO! The bottom line in the NFL is winning football games. There isn't a QB in the history of the NFL who has a higher winning percentage than Tom Brady has! I'm not going to badmouth Peyton Manning, because I think the guy is a VERY good QB. I also think that Manning will eventually break EVERY passing record that has ever existed in the NFL! Having said that, if Brady wins on Sunday (which I certainly think he will) that will give him four championships, and I suspect that won't be his last one! I think you're out of your mind if you seriously think Brady has ANYTHING to prove! As I've said before, there isn't one single QB in the history of the NFL who has won a super bowl with less talent than Brady has won with.

Everyone talks about how big of a favorite (point spread) the Patriots are to beat the Giants. They seem to forget that the 2001 Patriots were a far bigger underdog (15 points) to the Rams, and also had FAR less talent than the Rams had! The Patriots have changed receivers, running backs, and their entire offensive line, and have still managed to remain quite competitive. I can tell you this...Brady could care less about passing records, and his sole focus is winning football games. He has certainly proven that when given any weapons (and this is the first season that he has had ANY weapons), he is EVERY bit the pure passer that Manning is. Records don't mean much. Winning the big games does. Manning has failed FAR more in big games than he's won, and that will always be a knock against him, regardless of how many passing records he comes to own!


John from Boston

[Enigma869]

Miami Dolphins fans should love this!!!!


http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/01/ ... st-down-a/


John from Boston

[conversationpc]

Manning has failed FAR more in big games than he's won, and that will always be a knock against him, regardless of how many passing records he comes to own!

He's won enough big games to have the monkey off his back. Even if it's only one, it's enough. Marino would be in the same category if he had won any Super Bowls as well.

[Enigma869]

Manning has failed FAR more in big games than he's won, and that will always be a knock against him, regardless of how many passing records he comes to own!

He's won enough big games to have the monkey off his back. Even if it's only one, it's enough. Marino would be in the same category if he had won any Super Bowls as well.

Are you telling me that if Dan Marino won just one single Super Bowl that most football people would say he was a better QB than Joe Montana was?


John from Boston

[conversationpc]

Manning has failed FAR more in big games than he's won, and that will always be a knock against him, regardless of how many passing records he comes to own!

He's won enough big games to have the monkey off his back. Even if it's only one, it's enough. Marino would be in the same category if he had won any Super Bowls as well.

Are you telling me that if Dan Marino won just one single Super Bowl that most football people would say he was a better QB than Joe Montana was?

Hell no! By saying "in the same category", I was referring to him being in the same category as Manning, i.e., having won AT LEAST one Super Bowl.

[Enigma869]

Hell no! By saying "in the same category", I was referring to him being in the same category as Manning, i.e., having won AT LEAST one Super Bowl.

Okay, so can I infer from your response that you think Montana was a better QB than Marino? If that is the case, how in the world can you possibly think that Brady has to do ANYTHING to surpass Manning? I'm telling you...it's the same argument! One guy has all the rings, the other guy has all the records. The one exception of course is that Brady also broke Manning's TD record this season! I'm admittedly biased, but I honestly don't know how even the most objective football fan can tell me that Peyton Manning is the better QB!


John from Boston

[conversationpc]

Okay, so can I infer from your response that you think Montana was a better QB than Marino?

Yes.

If that is the case, how in the world can you possibly think that Brady has to do ANYTHING to surpass Manning? I'm telling you...it's the same argument! One guy has all the rings, the other guy has all the records.

The argument is that no one's really going to think of Manning as the guy who couldn't win one. THAT'S what I was saying.

The one exception of course is that Brady also broke Manning's TD record this season!

True...Mannings TD% was still over a percent higher, though.

[Enigma869]

Why the fuck isn't anyone talking about the Super Bowl?

This should piss John from Boston off real good...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-pla ... 729.column

An excerpt:

The first thing you notice about Tom Brady is, well, nothing.

He doesn't have a nick on his face because today's referees won't allow it.

He doesn't have a growl to his voice because today's huddles don't require it.

He doesn't have fire in his eyes because today's teams don't need it.

Tom Brady is fantastic, but he's formula. He's a champion, but he's a creation. And to anoint him as the best quarterback ever would be to forget that his position was invented, inspired and made famous by those who were neither.

I have to tell you NIG...I read the entire article, and came away saying "so what". I mean the guy's premise is that the game is different today than it was when Otto Graham and Slinging Sammy Baugh played. No shit! Nobody would argue that, but Brady certainly has no control over what era he's playing in! I'm a bit of a football buff, so have seen a lot of the old time QB's play. Unitas was a GREAT player, and Graham's seven titles are a phenomenal accomplishment! That said, suggesting Brady somehow doesn't measure up because he has a speaker in his helmet (along with every other QB) is fucking absurd! I'm also not sure what the logic is suggesting that somehow Bart Starr's 9-1 postseason record is better than Brady's 15-2 record. I'll personally take the one extra loss with the six additional wins!

The other thing that this guy is completely forgetting to mention is the reason Brady never gets touched is because he doesn't hold on to the ball! If he's suggesting that today's NFL QB's don't get sacked, because of rules that protect them, he isn't watching much football! There are zero rules that prevent QB's from being sacked! Late hits are prohibited against ALL players, and should be! I've seen NFL QB's get sacked 7 times in one single game, just this season! I also watched most of Drew Bledsoe's career, that had him getting sacked every other down, because he simply didn't know when to get rid of the damn football! This guy obviously isn't a fan of Tom Brady, and that's certainly his perrogative. I just think to suggest that Brady has had the success he has realized is because of some NFL conspiracy of rules to protect him makes the guy sound like a complete dope and a guy who hasn't watched much football in his life!


John from Boston

[Rhiannon]

Peyton beats up Eli

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH1lqY3TFp8&NR=1



Manning Family PSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA2WKzcdSD4&NR=1

[conversationpc]

Peyton beats up Eli

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH1lqY3TFp8&NR=1



Manning Family PSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA2WKzcdSD4&NR=1

Great commercial...

I like the one about the rock hard abs, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGmX6m78zDM

[Enigma869]

Okay, so can I infer from your response that you think Montana was a better QB than Marino?

Yes.

If that is the case, how in the world can you possibly think that Brady has to do ANYTHING to surpass Manning? I'm telling you...it's the same argument! One guy has all the rings, the other guy has all the records.

The argument is that no one's really going to think of Manning as the guy who couldn't win one. THAT'S what I was saying.

The one exception of course is that Brady also broke Manning's TD record this season!

True...Mannings TD% was still over a percent higher, though.

Well, you're obviously a Manning fan, Dave, and I won't hold that against you. I think the guy is a GREAT NFL QB, and will instantly walk into the hall of fame, upon retirement! That said, if the Colts offered me Manning for Brady, straight up, it's not a trade I would even consider making! As I said, the name of the game in the NFL is winning, and Brady's numbers speak for themselves! The other major difference is that Peyton Manning has played his entire career with VERY good receivers (Harrison is a first ballot hall of famer), while Brady has been throwing to the likes of Troy Brown, Reche Caldwell, David Patten, David Givens, and Bethel Johnson! There simply is no comparison to the weapons these two guys have had! Any time a guy can get more done with less talent around him, that tells me he's simply a better football player! As great as Joe Montana was (and I'm a HUGE Montana fan), let's not forget that the guy played his entire career with the greatest receiver in the history of the NFL!


John from Boston

[conversationpc]

Well, you're obviously a Manning fan, Dave, and I won't hold that against you.

Actually, I'm not really that big a Manning fan. I'm not even really that much of a football fan anymore and haven't been for several years. I've been a lifelong Cowboys fan, at least when I even watch football anymore. The Colts are kinda growing on me, though, since I've lived in the Indy area for over 10 years now, so who the heck knows.

This is just basically because I enjoy arguing.

[Rhiannon]

I like the one about the rock hard abs, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGmX6m78zDM

"I'm bummed too, guess I'll see ya next fall."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww9sxwq5qfk

[7 Wishes]

Did Hendrix play yet?