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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:41 pm

Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Arnel can flat out sing. It's not only my opinion, but other professional singer's opinion as well.

You guys, (who we love), need to give this guy a chance. He is awesome.


Have at it then dude. Even if Arnel was the most amazing singer on the face of the earth, I still have issues with the integrity of this band. As I said earlier, the only incarnation that would get me in a seat at one of their future concerts would be for Perry, and then, I'd be there ONLY because of him. The rest of the band mean nothing to me anymore. But then again, they never truly meant that much to me in the beginning either... it was always about the singer to me.

I have my dvds and cds. Journey is over, Party is over (for me).


If it was and is only about the singer for you, then how you can say you are Journey fan? You would be a SP fan or an SA fan, not a Journey fan. Like Neal and Jon or hate them, they are Journey importance.

I will "have at it" as you say.....YOU need to open up your mind. Journey is a five piece band, where every member is equal. I do not wish to argue, as that is not in my interest anylonger.

Have a nice day :)
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Postby Voyager » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:43 pm

Well, if nothing else, this thread has clarified a few things:

1. Journey will be touring in 2008 with lead singer #4: Arnel Pineda.

2. Journey fans would fill stadiums and pay big money to see Journey with Steve Perry again.

3. The chances of Journey selling concert tickets in 2008 with anyone but Steve Perry at the helm is a long shot at best.

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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:48 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Arnel can flat out sing. It's not only my opinion, but other professional singer's opinion as well.

You guys, (who we love), need to give this guy a chance. He is awesome.


Have at it then dude. Even if Arnel was the most amazing singer on the face of the earth, I still have issues with the integrity of this band. As I said earlier, the only incarnation that would get me in a seat at one of their future concerts would be for Perry, and then, I'd be there ONLY because of him. The rest of the band mean nothing to me anymore. But then again, they never truly meant that much to me in the beginning either... it was always about the singer to me.

I have my dvds and cds. Journey is over, Party is over (for me).


If it was and is only about the singer for you, then how you can say you are Journey fan? You would be a SP fan or an SA fan, not a Journey fan. Like Neal and Jon or hate them, they are Journey importance.

I will "have at it" as you say.....YOU need to open up your mind. Journey is a five piece band, where every member is equal. I do not wish to argue, as that is not in my interest anylonger.

Have a nice day :)


How can I say I'm a Journey fan? Cause he (Steve) wrote and sang the music when he was in Journey. My mind is and always was open, Dean... it just does not give a shit about the other guys AS MUCH as I did about the singer. I do not have to have equal admiration of all members of the band to be a fan of the band. But without the singer, which was always my catalyst, the rest means much less. How many Journey fans were more a fan of Neal... it's the same thing. And now, to the point of going through yet another lead singer change to someone that I don't feel is on par, I don't feel the need to give them my support.

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Postby AR » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:50 pm

I think Arnel sucks.

However I respect those who want him to front this band. all about preference.

What I fucking HATE, are the race baiters who cry "racism". Want to punch those lazy fuckers right in the face.

Arnel is not proven. His vocals are "ok" at best. And he has no stage presence at all. The small stage excuse is crap.

You realize how many singers didn't get gigs because they didn't look right? Some of you dumb asses don't get it.

Love you ALL, but Arnel really sucks. He sings ok, but he is not a front man. David Lee Roth sings ok at best, but kills as a front man.

I'm right, you are wrong. End.
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Postby Voyager » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:51 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Karaoke? Singing LIVE is NOT Karaoke. What SA did is fake. I am not bashing SA, as I will never bash anyone again, but Arnel is as live as you can get.


As much as I respect your opinion Dean, I just don't have it in me to go see Journey with lead singer #4. JSS was great, and SA brought back good memories of the Perry days, but it's just not the same as Steve Perry singing his own hits.

Tell me this Deano - would droves of Rolling Stones fans go see them again if they were on the third replacement of Mick Jagger? My guess is that box office sales would be "Shattered", just like they will be for Journey in 2008.

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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:51 pm

Ok, I respect that, well not really, but after having my son pass away in my arms, I cannot stand to argue, fight or even disagree. mind you, I am not looking for sympathy, so I will stay out of these brawls.

You have a great night. Wyatt is fine, thanks for asking.
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Postby AR » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:54 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Ok, I respect that, well not really, but after having my son pass away in my arms, I cannot stand to argue, fight or even disagree. mind you, I am not looking for sympathy, so I will stay out of these brawls.

You have a great night. Wyatt is fine, thanks for asking.


Bro, express your opinion. Many here want to hear from you my friend. :wink:
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Postby LazzMan » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:56 pm

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Playitloudforme wrote:Sigh...if it's Arnel, the Journey is over. Ain't no amount of money could make me support that line up.


That's an understatement to say the least. I don't know ANYONE who would pay to see Journey with yet another new singer. They will become the laughing stock of the industry, and would be lucky to get booked at casinos.

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Horse sh!t, there will be plenty of people who will pay to see this new line up. Hardcore and causal fans alike.

God forbid this be directed toward anyone in these forums but the fewer bigoted, racist fans they have the better. Who needs that kind of support anyway, its boarderline soccer hooliganism. When did it stop being about the music?


There is no music left pin head......Without Perry, Augeri or Soto, Journey is a tribute band that won't even headline State Fairs.

e-


By your reckoning they were also a tribute band with JSS as no new music was created, save for Wings of Freedom (which was horrible). If they are merely a tribute band (which I don't believe) then given what I have seen and heard they are set to be a much better tribute band now than ever before.

Anyway, goodnight all! Have a great weekend.
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No, because Jeff was not in a tribute band. Jeff was an established singer with a fairly healthy resume. Hugely popular in mainstream, no, not really. Amazingly talented, yes, very definitely.

When they canned Jeff they specifically said that they wanted someone to cover the old catalog and, essentially, sound like Perry. Jeff brought a whole new dimension to the band. It's like when Roth left VH and Sammy was brought in. Sammy could sing the older stuff but, he did it in his own way. He also brought a lot of other attributes. Who knows, it may end up like that for Arnel. Good luck to him.

The reason that everybody on this forum holds Journey in contempt isn't really about Arnel, Steve Perry, Jeff, Augeri, Jeremey Hunsicker, or anyone. It certainly has nothing (in most cases) to do with Arnel's nationality, although there are a lot of jokes thrown out in that direction. It has more to do with the Journey organization making what we feel to be bad decisions based on what we as fans want. It also has to do with the way in which Journey goes about it's business and how they treat people. The lying, the back-stabbing, the insults, the immoral behavior, etc. No one deserves that shit, no matter what the price. These guys are all in their mid- to late-50's. These aren't a bunch of 20-something hairballs in a garage band living with their parents that don't know any better. The most fitting term that I have seen used on this board several times is 'douchebag'. That's about as accurate of a description as there is.

So, Journey will move on with Arnel. A telented vocalist who can most definitely sing but, from what I've seen, really doesn't seem to be a fit. Who knows, maybe it will work out. However, I certainly don't intend to be the first in line to support anything they do. Not because of Arnel. They could record the greatest album ever. I just don't intend to support the organization any longer.
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Postby froy » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:56 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Folks, it's Arnel.

Deal with it.



Arnel is the smoke screen to keep the frenzy from starting.
Perry needs to get back in shape vocally,
Its going to take some time.
One day BAMM the announcement will happen.

Too much money being bantered around

I believe the rumor
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Postby Voyager » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:59 pm

LazzMan wrote:Jeff brought a whole new dimension to the band. It's like when Roth left VH and Sammy was brought in. Sammy could sing the older stuff but, he did it in his own way.


Well said. While JSS was not a true Perry sound-alike, he brought his own charisma and very superb vocals to the table. Who knows, if he would have cut an album with Journey, it may have done really well. I guess we'll never find out.

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Postby AR » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:02 pm

Voyager wrote:
LazzMan wrote:Jeff brought a whole new dimension to the band. It's like when Roth left VH and Sammy was brought in. Sammy could sing the older stuff but, he did it in his own way.


Well said. While JSS was not a true Perry sound-alike, he brought his own charisma and very superb vocals to the table. Who knows, if he would have cut an album with Journey, it may have done really well. I guess we'll never find out.

8)


Jeff could have been to Journey what Sammy was to VH.
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Postby Voyager » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:02 pm

froy wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Folks, it's Arnel.

Deal with it.


Arnel is the smoke screen to keep the frenzy from starting.
Perry needs to get back in shape vocally,
Its going to take some time.
One day BAMM the announcement will happen.

Too much money being bantered around

I believe the rumor


I hope it happens as you say, as do millions of other Perry/Journey fans. Alas, I will not be holding my breath.

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Postby Voyager » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:03 pm

AR wrote:
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LazzMan wrote:Jeff brought a whole new dimension to the band. It's like when Roth left VH and Sammy was brought in. Sammy could sing the older stuff but, he did it in his own way.


Well said. While JSS was not a true Perry sound-alike, he brought his own charisma and very superb vocals to the table. Who knows, if he would have cut an album with Journey, it may have done really well. I guess we'll never find out.

8)


Jeff could have been to Journey what Sammy was to VH.


You took the words right out of my mouth.

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Postby AR » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:03 pm

Arnel sucks. Lame.
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Postby Andrew » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:03 pm

froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)
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Postby Voyager » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:06 pm

Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)


Will you promise to post a pic of it on the home page of MR?

:lol: :shock: :lol:
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Postby AR » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:07 pm

Voyager wrote:
AR wrote:
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LazzMan wrote:Jeff brought a whole new dimension to the band. It's like when Roth left VH and Sammy was brought in. Sammy could sing the older stuff but, he did it in his own way.


Well said. While JSS was not a true Perry sound-alike, he brought his own charisma and very superb vocals to the table. Who knows, if he would have cut an album with Journey, it may have done really well. I guess we'll never find out.

8)


Jeff could have been to Journey what Sammy was to VH.


You took the words right out of my mouth.

:(


Thanks. As fans we really lost out not having Jeff stay.

Jeremey could bring it too.

Now, Schon is scouring the third world so he can pay for his divorces. Anyone who supports this sucks.
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Postby Moon Beam » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:08 pm

Dean'o


Nice seeing ya.....hope you stick around.
I've always enjoyed both your harder and softer posting sides Sir.
It's sad that you been softened by the blows dealt to you and your family.
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Postby Moon Beam » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:10 pm

Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)



Hot Damn!......hope Mrs Wombat has the camera on hand for that. :lol:
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:11 pm

Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)


Ooh baby!
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Postby froy » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:15 pm

Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)


Bottom line here
Not a peep can be let out just in case Perry can't cut it.
So from that stand point no rumor
But Perry has to be at least considering it and may rehearse and see how it goes.
If Dave and his burned out voice can do it
Perry and some back ground harmony tapes can do it also
He is just going to need to sing lead thats all
The Harmonies will be piped in and Perry will probably prerecord them all
I believe the rumor...
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Postby AR » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:19 pm

froy wrote:
Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)


Bottom line here
Not a peep can be let out just in case Perry can't cut it.
So from that stand point no rumor
But Perry has to be at least considering it and may rehearse and see how it goes.
If Dave and his burned out voice can do it
Perry and some back ground harmony tapes can do it also
He is just going to need to sing lead thats all
The Harmonies will be piped in and Perry will probably prerecord them all
I believe the rumor...


Dave doesn't need to sing like Perry. He needs to be Dave. Perry is technically way better, but I'd puke hearing Perry sing "Hot For Teacher" :wink:
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Postby Tom Jrnyfn » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:21 pm

Would Perry play Fresno? Yes
Is he coming back ? No
Is Arnel in? Yes
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Postby strangegrey » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:32 pm

Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)


I495, Long Island Expressway, Andrew.

You can stay with me...and I'll give you the grand tour of Long Island...at the end of the weekend, I'll run with you! (But I won't hold your hand!)
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Postby Granny » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:33 pm

Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)


Andrew, you made my night. :shock: :D :lol: :shock: ..although I wouldn't want to see you bare-assed naked, it would be worth it just to hear Perry sing live.
Lora said NEVER and I believe her. Soooo Sad.....
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Postby AR » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:38 pm

Hey, please keep expecting Perry to come back. It's amusing.
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Postby Escape Artist » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:14 pm

Perry or nothing at this point for me.... what a fucking joke.
BTW - I don't expect him to come back so... Neal, Jon do the right thing and bury journey it is dead!
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Postby Voyager » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:36 pm

Andrew wrote:
froy wrote:


I believe the rumor


100% false and I'll run naked across a freeway of your choice if it proves to be correct :)


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^
(Andrew just getting word that Steve Perry reunited with Journey.)

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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:42 pm

Haha! I'd run around naked if SP returned to Journey as well.
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Postby Vladan » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:47 pm

AR wrote:I think Arnel sucks.

However I respect those who want him to front this band. all about preference.

What I fucking HATE, are the race baiters who cry "racism". Want to punch those lazy fuckers right in the face.

Arnel is not proven. His vocals are "ok" at best. And he has no stage presence at all. The small stage excuse is crap.

You realize how many singers didn't get gigs because they didn't look right? Some of you dumb asses don't get it.

Love you ALL, but Arnel really sucks. He sings ok, but he is not a front man. David Lee Roth sings ok at best, but kills as a front man.

I'm right, you are wrong. End.


Well said. I agree with you about Arnel. In my opinion I would of word it a different way, but that's me. Either way, well said.
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