West Palm Beach Set List

[siobhan222]

I'm brand new here so please everyone don't kill me on my very first post! I am not much of a band forum person and I usually don't post anywhere more than a few times a year, if that. I came here looking for information after going to the WPB show not knowing Steve Augeri was no longer with Journey and being very unpleasantly surprised. I've been reading quite a bit here and I just wanted to post my opinion as I haven't seen someone's opinion who didn't know going in that SA wouldn't be up there. My opinion seems to differ from the masses here. It's just my opinion and I'm only one person .. but there might be someone else reading this that is like me and so, I feel it's okay for me to differ as maybe it will help someone else. Hopefully, you guys will respect that.

I was a huge Journey fan in my teens. I first discovered them in 1980 when I came to the US (from Ireland) and at that time, they were not known on my side of the pond. I went to great lengths to get their albums sent to me from relatives in the US after that and I listened to every album so many times and memorized every nuance I moved to the US in '85 but was too poor to go to a concert back then and of course, there wasn't much Journey after that. I got to see Steve Perry on his solo tour FTLOSM and I was bitterly disappointed. He was weird onstage -- in my opinion -- not what I had expected. His singing to the coat tails really bothered me along with some of his comments about his Journey years. And I just didn't care for his voice as much as I had in the old days. It sounded raspy and a lot of the power was missing. However, I could never imagine a Journey without Steve Perry and would never have thought of seeing them without him except ...

In 2001, I saw the BTM special and got really excited as I liked how Steve Augeri looked and sounded. I went to my first ever live Journey concert that year and I've been to many since. I really loved SA's performances and his stage presence. I always felt he kept the Journey sound very true to the way SP did it. His voice isn't as powerful and incredible as SP's but then, SP just had one of the greatest voices of all time, so it would be tough for anyone to meet or outdo that. However, I really really liked SA's stage presence and how he related to the fans. I had the great honour of meeting him and his wife in December 2003 and actually spending several hours with them. I thought he was even nicer offstage than onstage and I walked away thinking that he and his wife were the kind of people I would like to have as neighbours. I was unable to go to a Journey concert last year although I had ILAA tickets because I was sick.

I was at the WPB concert this year in the 5th row on JC's side. I didn't get the ILAA tickets but I paid $350 for my tickets. I was really excited. I have a lot of health problems and that day, I was really sick but I was determined to drag myself out of bed and get to the show (especially after paying so much!). I had absolutely no idea going in that Steve was not going to perform. I admit that coloured my feelings and therefore I'm not unbiased. I kept waiting for Steve to come out on stage and when Jeff started to sing, I was floored. I asked some girls behind me where Steve was and they sort of paused before answering. Then, they said he was out with a throat infection and this was Jeff Scott Soto and he'd been in SoulSirkUS with Neal. A while after that, Jon said something along the lines of "This is Jeff Scott Soto" and "Steve Augeri won't be performing with us tonight." I was really angry. I paid my good money to see SA ... I didn't pay to see a substitute. I would not have gotten out of bed if I had known. And I wasn't the only person that felt that way. I talked to several people during the show and a lot of them weren't happy about it either. My husband also heard some guys griping about it while he was in the men's room. So, I know I'm not the only person who didn't care for JSS and who wished it was SA up there!

I am sorry but I just didn't take to JSS at all. As I said above, I am not unbiased and I was in shock. But I just didn't like the way he sang the songs. He didn't hit the notes or hold the notes well. I found myself singing along and holding the notes in my own little silly way of correcting him (which of course, he couldn't hear). I also thought he was flat a lot of the time. Most of all, I didn't like his stage presence. He had a ton of energy but to me, it was over the top. He has a good voice, but to me, it just isn't right for Journey songs. I've listened to several of the YouTube.com links people have posted within this forum and I still feel the same way. I loved the "Believe In Me" song ... but that wasn't what I heard at the concert. I assume that song was written for JSS and also it's a studio version and I know that will always sound better. I also know the range of the Journey songs is very difficult for most singers. (In fact, I've heard some pretty decent singers try to do Journey songs and it can sound very painful.) I say bravo to JSS for having the guts to do this. I doubt it all happened within a few days. I'm sure he must have known this was going to happen. I find it hard to believe even the very best of singers could learn all those songs so quickly and learn how to sing them with Journey. There's more to this story than meets the eye, I'm sure.

I know there are a ton of people here who won't agree with me on this as I've seen the comments here from all the people who love JSS. I can't say how I would have felt if I'd known going in that it wasn't going to be SA. I've read what people say about SA and that he's not going to be coming back. I tend to think you're all right. I realized that as soon as I accepted that Journey had substituted someone else. I doubt they would have done that if SA is really coming back. But it doesn't make me feel any better about it to be honest. And I'm going to keep hoping that SA will come back -- at least until they make an official announcement that he isn't. But as it stands right now, I can't imagine myself going to see a Journey concert again with JSS.

Fans who didn't care for SA might like JSS more than I did. But he does do things differently and if you like the standards done the way you've always known them and/or you like SA, you might not. I don't mean to start any war by saying this. As I've said, it's just my opinion.

But here's what really bugs me the most. I don't go check the Journey site all the time. I don't read these forums much. And I very very rarely listen to the radio. So, I didn't hear it anywhere before the show. I get email from Journey's site every time they have a merchandise sale or to tell me when new dates are added to the tour or when Neal was doing his whole SoulSirkUS thing or anything else they're doing. I get email from ILAA to tell me to buy their special packages for Journey shows at those really high prices. How come I didn't get an email to tell me that SA had been replaced? To me, that seems underhanded. They can tell me everything else, but not this important fact: that their lineup had changed. Why? That's my big question ... not that I expect an answer.

Okay, I'll shut up now. Thanks for reading and allowing me to express my feelings.

[NealIsGod]

Thanks for your insight. I am sure there are plenty of people like you who will not be happy with JSS if he is a permanent replacement. And I agree that Journey should have sent an email to their mailing list about Augeri, and they should be more forthcoming about the situation.

But I think hiring Soto, or any other good singer, for this tour was a must. To pull out of the tour would have disappointed a lot more fans than the hiring of Soto is.

[Red13JoePa]

I see they're opening w/ Faith.....like that. Now teach JSS TPIYH and OOHW....

[siobhan222]

NealIsGod, thanks for your response. While I understand what you mean about disappointing fans, I think for the band, it was far less about disappointing fans and far more about making their money. I mean really, have there been other bands who hire a replacement singer in the middle of a tour that you know of? If there are, I've never heard of it. The only time this happened to a concert I had tickets to before -- that the singer of that band got sick -- the show was cancelled. And I know this isn't the 80s, but could you imagine if they had hired a replacement for SP then in the middle of a tour?

Sorry. I don't mean to be disagreeable on my first few posts!

[NealIsGod]

NealIsGod, thanks for your response. While I understand what you mean about disappointing fans, I think for the band, it was far less about disappointing fans and far more about making their money. I mean really, have there been other bands who hire a replacement singer in the middle of a tour that you know of? If there are, I've never heard of it. The only time this happened to a concert I had tickets to before -- that the singer of that band got sick -- the show was cancelled. And I know this isn't the 80s, but could you imagine if they had hired a replacement for SP then in the middle of a tour?

Sorry. I don't mean to be disagreeable on my first few posts!

That's OK. I really have no opinion yet on the JSS version of Journey. I need to see a quality boot or see them, live first.

I see your point, though. Of course, Journey would have lost A LOT of dough by cancelling. But Soto knows the songs, has a relationship with the band already, and was available. Things worked out perfectly for them. But they will not please everybody.

[siobhan222]

But Soto knows the songs, has a relationship with the band already, and was available. Things worked out perfectly for them. But they will not please everybody.

Did JSS do a lot of Journey covers in the past? I know from links posted here that he did a couple with SoulSirkUS, but it seems he has learned a lot of songs very quickly and not just learned the words, but he's able to sign them with the band. That takes a lot of talent to be able to just jump right in, I must say. I was really glad he let Deen finish out Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'. He was really straining on that one -- it's such a hard song to sing!!! When we were on vacation last month for my birthday, we were in a bar and the band could do almost anything requested -- a fair job at least. I requested a Journey song and they did LTS -- and it hurt to listen to that guy strain his voice. You never realize how tough Journey songs are until you try to hit those notes.

[conversationpc]

Did JSS do a lot of Journey covers in the past? I know from links posted here that he did a couple with SoulSirkUS, but it seems he has learned a lot of songs very quickly and not just learned the words, but he's able to sign them with the band.

In the statement on his web site, he said that he used to sing those Journey songs in his car all the time and that he probably knows them better than he knows some of his own stuff.

[NealIsGod]

But Soto knows the songs, has a relationship with the band already, and was available. Things worked out perfectly for them. But they will not please everybody.

Did JSS do a lot of Journey covers in the past? I know from links posted here that he did a couple with SoulSirkUS, but it seems he has learned a lot of songs very quickly and not just learned the words, but he's able to sign them with the band. That takes a lot of talent to be able to just jump right in, I must say. I was really glad he let Deen finish out Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'. He was really straining on that one -- it's such a hard song to sing!!! When we were on vacation last month for my birthday, we were in a bar and the band could do almost anything requested -- a fair job at least. I requested a Journey song and they did LTS -- and it hurt to listen to that guy strain his voice. You never realize how tough Journey songs are until you try to hit those notes.

Maybe this thread will help you.

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=17480

[siobhan222]

Maybe this thread will help you.

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=17480

Thank you for that. There's a difference between singing in your car and singing songs with a band though. When I used to sing a long long time ago, I could sign a song great messing around at home .. but it was a whole different ballgame when I got with the band and many songs took a bit more rehearsals than expected. Then again, I certainly wasn't a consummate pro who'd been doing this for 20 years like JSS ... even so ...

I know we have some pros here ... can you just get up and sing with any band with very little rehearsal?

[Barb]

You make an excellent point about not receiving an email on this. I didn't even think of that. I assume they know they'd likely receive a lot of requests for refunds. That actually kind of pisses me off now that I think about it.

I also never thought anyone could ever replace Steve Perry, but when I saw the "new Journey" debut in Marin, California in June of 1998, I was overwhelmed with love and joy that my band was back and I really took to Steve Augeri. He was so humble and respectful to the Journey legacy -- not obnoxious in his stage presence -- just very gracious and true to the Journey I had always loved and he sounded fantastic.

I've seen them every tour since then, sometimes multiple times.

I don't like the way this situation has unfolded. I pray that Steve will be back, but I really don't think he will be. I spent a little over $1200 for my tickets to the show at Shoreline in Mountain View next month. If Steve doesn't return, it's the last Journey show for me. At some point, it just stops being Journey and it stops being something special.

I've come to the conclusion that Neal feels everyone in the band is replaceable. In fact, the only person who he would probably cancel shows for is himself. If he were injured and couldn't play, the show would not go on. I may be wrong on that, but that's how I feel about it.

I appreciate your honest comments.

I'm brand new here so please everyone don't kill me on my very first post! I am not much of a band forum person and I usually don't post anywhere more than a few times a year, if that. I came here looking for information after going to the WPB show not knowing Steve Augeri was no longer with Journey and being very unpleasantly surprised. I've been reading quite a bit here and I just wanted to post my opinion as I haven't seen someone's opinion who didn't know going in that SA wouldn't be up there. My opinion seems to differ from the masses here. It's just my opinion and I'm only one person .. but there might be someone else reading this that is like me and so, I feel it's okay for me to differ as maybe it will help someone else. Hopefully, you guys will respect that. ....

[siobhan222]

I've come to the conclusion that Neal feels everyone in the band is replaceable. In fact, the only person who he would probably cancel shows for is himself. If he were injured and couldn't play, the show would not go on. I may be wrong on that, but that's how I feel about it.

I appreciate your honest comments.

And I appreciate your honesty Barb. And I am sure sorry about all the money you spent on tickets. I hope you enjoy the new lineup and the show a lot more than I did.

You said exactly what my husband said: Neal believes *he* is Journey. I guess he's right since it is and always was Neal's band. And if you think about it, who is the one member that if he was no longer there it would forever end the band: Neal. Can you even imagine them going on with some other guitar player? No way. Neal and Ross are the only "founding" members left ... but Ross was replaced once. If I'm correct, JSS is the 5th lead singer, DC is the 4th drummer, JC is the second keyboard player. So, the only member of the band that hasn't been replaced at least once *is* Neal. To him, "the show must go on is his mantra", I guess.

I feel like a hypocrite, to be honest. After seeing the BTM show, I felt SP was wrong and that he prevented the guys from earning a living so they *had* to go on without him -- and I said that to many people. But now, it's happened all over again and now, having become a huge SA fan, I feel like all the die-hard SP fans must have felt all along: why can't they just wait and let Steve recover? And that's exactly what the SP fans said. And here I am feeling the same way about the new Steve.

I'll probably get flamed for saying this but it kind of brings some credibility to all of SP's gripes about the way things were handled when he wasn't sure whether he wanted hip surgery or not. For the first time in years, I have a much softer spot in my heart for SP -- and it's not just for his voice anymore. Maybe he was treated unfairly. And maybe all Neal cares about is continuing Journey with whatever lineup works for him. And maybe that's Neal's perogative but somehow it just doesn't feel right to me.

[Barb]

Well, I do think the band gave Steve ample time to figure out what he was going to do, and since he wouldn't commit, they went on. I can't blame them for that. And we the fans had 12 long years without a live Journey show. It was easier to accept then because we were all so hungry for Journey. Plus, I get the feeling Perry really didn't want to be in Journey and tour, not that he was "kicked out".

With SA, we know that is not the case. He's singing one night and the next, there's a new singer. It's just so abrupt and it feels cheap to me. The lead singer for Journey is not an inter-changeable part that can be shuffled from one day to the next without seriously impacting the sound of the band.

I'm sure JSS is a great guy and he does have a great voice, but from what I can hear, it doesn't sound right for Journey. I won't know for sure until I see them, but for now that's where I'm at with this whole thing.

You're right about Neal and it being his band. I can't even imagine Journey without Neal's guitar brilliance -- that would be a travesty. I think it just annoys me that he doesn't seem to give anyone else the same respect.

I think what is in order here is a huge dose of honesty from this band. Lay it all out and tell us what really happened to Steve. Neal Schon knows right now whether or not Steve will be back and I'd like to know.

I've come to the conclusion that Neal feels everyone in the band is replaceable. In fact, the only person who he would probably cancel shows for is himself. If he were injured and couldn't play, the show would not go on. I may be wrong on that, but that's how I feel about it.

I appreciate your honest comments.

And I appreciate your honesty Barb. And I am sure sorry about all the money you spent on tickets. I hope you enjoy the new lineup and the show a lot more than I did.

You said exactly what my husband said: Neal believes *he* is Journey. I guess he's right since it is and always was Neal's band. And if you think about it, who is the one member that if he was no longer there it would forever end the band: Neal. Can you even imagine them going on with some other guitar player? No way. Neal and Ross are the only "founding" members left ... but Ross was replaced once. If I'm correct, JSS is the 5th lead singer, DC is the 4th drummer, JC is the second keyboard player. So, the only member of the band that hasn't been replaced at least once *is* Neal. To him, "the show must go on is his mantra", I guess.

I feel like a hypocrite, to be honest. After seeing the BTM show, I felt SP was wrong and that he prevented the guys from earning a living so they *had* to go on without him -- and I said that to many people. But now, it's happened all over again and now, having become a huge SA fan, I feel like all the die-hard SP fans must have felt all along: why can't they just wait and let Steve recover? And that's exactly what the SP fans said. And here I am feeling the same way about the new Steve.

I'll probably get flamed for saying this but it kind of brings some credibility to all of SP's gripes about the way things were handled when he wasn't sure whether he wanted hip surgery or not. For the first time in years, I have a much softer spot in my heart for SP -- and it's not just for his voice anymore. Maybe he was treated unfairly. And maybe all Neal cares about is continuing Journey with whatever lineup works for him. And maybe that's Neal's perogative but somehow it just doesn't feel right to me.

[siobhan222]

Well, I do think the band gave Steve ample time to figure out what he was going to do, and since he wouldn't commit, they went on. I can't blame them for that. And we the fans had 12 long years without a live Journey show. It was easier to accept then because we were all so hungry for Journey. Plus, I get the feeling Perry really didn't want to be in Journey and tour, not that he was "kicked out".

With SA, we know that is not the case. He's singing one night and the next, there's a new singer. It's just so abrupt and it feels cheap to me. [snip]

I think what is in order here is a huge dose of honesty from this band. Lay it all out and tell us what really happened to Steve. Neal Schon knows right now whether or not Steve will be back and I'd like to know.

I agree Barb. It was easier to accept because Perry was wishy-washy about really being back in the first place and then even more wishy-wasy about the tour. And it's not like they ran out and got a new singer the next day. They did wait a couple of years. And we went so long without Journey in between. Well I guess I should say easier for some of us, as I know there are some who never accepted it.

I'm just really raw about this whole SA thing. I didn't know anything ... now I hear about all this lip-synch stuff that has been said, then Steve performing when he was obviously in a lot of pain, and supposedly he knew that last night he performed was going to be his last night and he performed anyway ... woah ... and then suddenly there's another singer . And a signer who knows all the songs so quickly and is able to perform them with the band. I personally didn't like the way he performed them, but he did them as if he'd been rehearsing a while -- to me, at least. How could that all happen so fast? Am I reading too much into it? I honestly don't know but it has really upset me. What also bothered me was that I didn't feel that comraderie from the band that I'd felt in years past where it seemed like they all just gelled together and were really happy with the lineup. Jon was blah and he seemed moody as heck. I just didn't feel the energy and the togetherness. Was this just my imagination? I don't think so, because my husband said the same thing. And he's not a major Journey fan like me. He felt like no one interacted with each other and had fun. Maybe that's just the difference in style or something between JSS and SA.

As for the honesty ... I doubt it will happen and I'm sure the band thinks they owe us nothing. I have a sinking suspicion that somewhere shortly after this tour ends, there will an announcement that Steve has decided not to come back. And let's face it .. there are still a huge amount of people who go to Journey shows and just think Steve Perry got a perm -- although that one will be hard to pull off with JSS.

And I'm usually not an obsessive fan who spends hours on forums. Maybe it was just the shock the other night but I can't seem to shake it. And I can't help but feel angry with Neal ... who I always thought was this wonderful guy. I guess it's none of my business ... and it is all business to them.

Here's the pathetic thing ... I have a Journey ringtone on my cell phone and when it rang today, it just made me angry. I'm taking this waaay too seriously. Time to get a life.

[Barb]

Yet another person commenting on Jonathan's obvious unhappiness on stage. Man would I love to know what is really going on with these guys!

[Liz22562]

The only band "interaction" I saw at the Tampa show was JSS & Deen hugging as they walked off the stage at the end. I never thought anything of it though. I just don't remember what it was like at past shows with the band.

[larryfromnextdoor]

they are big business,,, most bands that have been around as long as they have dispise each other, have weekly meetings with a manager and travel separtley,,, but in the beggining they are all best friends and the music shows it ,, there sure looks like some bad vibes with journey now,,, besides being embarrassed,,

[NoMoreTails]

I had absolutely no idea going in that Steve was not going to perform. I admit that coloured my feelings and therefore I'm not unbiased.

I know there are a ton of people here who won't agree with me on this as I've seen the comments here from all the people who love JSS.

Becoming a fan of Jeff's through Soul Sirkus and thinking he might bring the "Journey sound" (check him out on "Coming Home" at soulsirkus.com) I felt I was pretty objective going into the VA Beach show even being a big Augeri fan but I agree with you that it was not "Journey" for me.
I think its possible that he could bring more of the vocal sound we're used to hearing from the band but maybe they've told him just to do his own thing...

I too hope SA will be able to return.

[siobhan222]

Yet another person commenting on Jonathan's obvious unhappiness on stage. Man would I love to know what is really going on with these guys!

Other people thought that too?

[Liz22562]

Other Journey shows I've attended Jon was always the talker throughout the evening.....only thing he said in Tampa was that Steve was sick and JSS was filling in. Never said another word.

[Barb]

Yes, I've read at least 6 or 7 comments from different people about Jon seeming to be in a bad mood, or that he "barely cracked a smile." And this has been since SA left.

Yet another person commenting on Jonathan's obvious unhappiness on stage. Man would I love to know what is really going on with these guys!

Other people thought that too?

[siobhan222]

Yes, I've read at least 6 or 7 comments from different people about Jon seeming to be in a bad mood, or that he "barely cracked a smile." And this has been since SA left.

Wow that's interesting. Based on what you and Liz said, you have to wonder if he's unhappy about how this went down. I just don't remember Jon being that way before. He was always smiling every other time I saw him and as Liz said, he was chatty.

Didn't I read somewhere here that RocknDeano guy posted something before his blog came down that he had some dirt on Jon too? Does anyone remember what he said?

[FormerJrnyFan]

Yes, I've read at least 6 or 7 comments from different people about Jon seeming to be in a bad mood, or that he "barely cracked a smile." And this has been since SA left.

Wow that's interesting. Based on what you and Liz said, you have to wonder if he's unhappy about how this went down. I just don't remember Jon being that way before. He was always smiling every other time I saw him and as Liz said, he was chatty.

Didn't I read somewhere here that RocknDeano guy posted something before his blog came down that he had some dirt on Jon too? Does anyone remember what he said?

Jon's a little "pissy" imo anyway...

[nolippin]

Pardon me for being the cynic, but I'm starting to smell an agenda here.

Yes, I've read at least 6 or 7 comments from different people about Jon seeming to be in a bad mood, or that he "barely cracked a smile." And this has been since SA left.

Wow that's interesting. Based on what you and Liz said, you have to wonder if he's unhappy about how this went down. I just don't remember Jon being that way before. He was always smiling every other time I saw him and as Liz said, he was chatty.

Didn't I read somewhere here that RocknDeano guy posted something before his blog came down that he had some dirt on Jon too? Does anyone remember what he said?

[siobhan222]

Pardon me for being the cynic, but I'm starting to smell an agenda here.

I had a feeling someone would have something to say to me before the day was out. I have no agenda. I'm just a disappointed fan who has been looking for information on what happened and this is the only site that seems to have any -- at least any that remains up. And don't worry, I probably won't spend much time here. I'm usually too busy and/or sick to spend time on forums.

[Barb]

What the hell are you talking about?

Pardon me for being the cynic, but I'm starting to smell an agenda here.

Yes, I've read at least 6 or 7 comments from different people about Jon seeming to be in a bad mood, or that he "barely cracked a smile." And this has been since SA left.

Wow that's interesting. Based on what you and Liz said, you have to wonder if he's unhappy about how this went down. I just don't remember Jon being that way before. He was always smiling every other time I saw him and as Liz said, he was chatty.

Didn't I read somewhere here that RocknDeano guy posted something before his blog came down that he had some dirt on Jon too? Does anyone remember what he said?

[nolippin]

I thought you said in another post that you got all your "news" from Augeriville.

Pardon me for being the cynic, but I'm starting to smell an agenda here.

I had a feeling someone would have something to say to me before the day was out. I have no agenda. I'm just a disappointed fan who has been looking for information on what happened and this is the only site that seems to have any -- at least any that remains up. And don't worry, I probably won't spend much time here. I'm usually too busy and/or sick to spend time on forums.

[siobhan222]

I thought you said in another post that you got all your "news" from Augeriville.

If you want to quote what I've said, that's fine .. but please get it right. Otherwise, you look like you're having difficulty reading or are just here to pick a fight with me. I said I have been looking at Augeriville for news about Steve Augeri's health as they always seem to have anything new about him on that site. I've now said this to you a few times. Please go back and read what I wrote -- not what you decide you think I've written.

[nolippin]

Nope, I'm not having any difficulty reading at all. This is exactly what you said. For someone who was so glad to be allowed to express their feelings, you certainly got your panties in a wad as soon as someone disagreed with you.

Seems you are the one looking for a fight.

siobhan222
Still Green
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Re: Steve Augeri update?
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
true,, do the bands ever contact the actuall sites ??? was there an augerie site that actually knows him,,, or all they all just fan based,, no one has a contact email for him ??


Steve's fan site is www.augeriville.com. That site usually has the latest on him so I'm sure once they get news, they will put it up there. At least, that's where I am checking for news.

I thought you said in another post that you got all your "news" from Augeriville.

If you want to quote what I've said, that's fine .. but please get it right. Otherwise, you look like you're having difficulty reading or are just here to pick a fight with me. I said I have been looking at Augeriville for news about Steve Augeri's health as they always seem to have anything new about him on that site. I've now said this to you a few times. Please go back and read what I wrote -- not what you decide you think I've written.

[siobhan222]

Nope, I'm not having any difficulty reading at all. This is exactly what you said. For someone who was so glad to be allowed to express their feelings, you certainly got your panties in a wad as soon as someone disagreed with you.

Seems you are the one looking for a fight.

Steve's fan site is www.augeriville.com. That site usually has the latest on him so I'm sure once they get news, they will put it up there. At least, that's where I am checking for news.

I thought you said in another post that you got all your "news" from Augeriville.

If you want to quote what I've said, that's fine .. but please get it right. Otherwise, you look like you're having difficulty reading or are just here to pick a fight with me. I said I have been looking at Augeriville for news about Steve Augeri's health as they always seem to have anything new about him on that site. I've now said this to you a few times. Please go back and read what I wrote -- not what you decide you think I've written.

Exactly nolippin. You prove my point exactly. I said I was checking for news on Augeri there. You claimed I said that's where I get all my news from. I think you *are* having comprehension problems with what you read and this proves it beyond a doubt.

I'm not getting my "panties in a wad" at all about being disagreed with. I just don't like being misquoted. *That* bothers me a great deal. You have misquoted me many times in the last hour or so.

[nolippin]

"At least, that's where I am checking for news."

Nope, you haven't been misquoted at all. You, however, seem to enjoy insulting me and bashing Journey and the horrible thing they have done...in your mind...to Augeri. Just a reminder that this is a Journey forum...not an Augeri forum.

This is my last post to you as it is my feeling that the BT trolls should be ignored.

Nope, I'm not having any difficulty reading at all. This is exactly what you said. For someone who was so glad to be allowed to express their feelings, you certainly got your panties in a wad as soon as someone disagreed with you.

Seems you are the one looking for a fight.

Steve's fan site is www.augeriville.com. That site usually has the latest on him so I'm sure once they get news, they will put it up there. At least, that's where I am checking for news.

I thought you said in another post that you got all your "news" from Augeriville.

If you want to quote what I've said, that's fine .. but please get it right. Otherwise, you look like you're having difficulty reading or are just here to pick a fight with me. I said I have been looking at Augeriville for news about Steve Augeri's health as they always seem to have anything new about him on that site. I've now said this to you a few times. Please go back and read what I wrote -- not what you decide you think I've written.

Exactly nolippin. You prove my point exactly. I said I was checking for news on Augeri there. You claimed I said that's where I get all my news from. I think you *are* having comprehension problems with what you read and this proves it beyond a doubt.

I'm not getting my "panties in a wad" at all about being disagreed with. I just don't like being misquoted. *That* bothers me a great deal. You have misquoted me many times in the last hour or so.