Journey- New 2008 Live Date

[stevew2]

You know who

[Voyager]

A frigging Remax convention at the MGM in Vegas could probably bring down $150k to $300k for the band. Neal won't pass that up.

[Escape Artist]

These are nothing more than auditions for poor Arnel.

They will announce that he is singing for them but no more... that way when they dump him 6 Months down the line it won't look so bad.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

A frigging Remax convention at the MGM in Vegas could probably bring down $150k to $300k for the band. Neal won't pass that up.

who would pass it up? honestly now.

Gayle, the lawsuit goes to federal court tomorrow so we'll have the $$$ to have the band at our bbq soon. only $300K. we can afford it!!! in Corpus of course.

our party, our rulz, our $$$. guess who we want to sing??????



ignore me. I'm a brat tonight.

[ArnelRox]

These are nothing more than auditions for poor Arnel.

They will announce that he is singing for them but no more... that way when they dump him 6 Months down the line it won't look so bad.

WRONG!

[donnaplease]

If he's the 'consumate professional' lots around here claim that he is, with all his experience and his great stage presence, he shouldn't need a 'warm up' show or two. Hell, Jeff was thrown right into the the fray in the middle of a huge tour, and came out of it on top (only to be kicked in the 'nads by the same people he rescued just a few months later).

I wish the man (Arnel) well, but think in the long run Journey will once again crash and burn.

[ArnelRox]

Arnel is going to be as nervous as a squirrel shitting peach pits the first time out. They're easing Arnel into the game with a smaller audience. Letting him get somewhat comfortable fronting Journey, feeling out whatever stage presence he will hopefully develop. Better to do it in a venue like this before throwing him to the wolves of a real concert. I mean if he's going to goof up, better he does it out of the eye of joe public internet reporter. This way he can learn what not to do at a real concert.

U are so clueless about Arnel. U really should look into his background & what he did in the 80s. Nervous my ass.

[ArnelRox]

Corporate gigs, and state or county fairs,that is what you ll get this year,enjoy

U think? Wrong.

[ArnelRox]

If he's the 'consumate professional' lots around here claim that he is, with all his experience and his great stage presence, he shouldn't need a 'warm up' show or two.

He doesnt. Just a lot of people assuming things around here.

[kellyhansenfan]

In another thread about 2008, I posted this "I heard through a friend that Journey is booked to play their corporate gig in the Spring in the US... WITH ARNEL." This Remax gig is the one I was referring to...my friend will be there and provide a full report!

[finalfight]

In another thread about 2008, I posted this "I heard through a friend that Journey is booked to play their corporate gig in the Spring in the US... WITH ARNEL." This Remax gig is the one I was referring to...my friend will be there and provide a full report!

Awesome, many thanks in advance.

[Stoneyman]

It makes plenty of sense to do a corporate gig. Most people wont even notice that Arnel is there. Most of the suits probably still think Perry is singing. With all of the free booze flowing they will be screaming for the dirty dozen with their ties around their heads.

Smart move. Any show under his belt will help his confidence. Also I believe that Arnel was singing roughly 30 tunes a show in his band, and singing 15 to 20 should be easier (if you can call singing Perry material easy....NOT).

If they dont book too many shows Arnel will do just fine. Singing Perry too much can blow out a voice. (SA)

I also think Soto would have eventually left the band. He would have been successful if they wrote new material and played alot of it on tour to balance his stuff and the dirty dozen. If they were gonna keep making him belt the high Perry stuff Soto would have been in trouble. It may be better for Soto in the long run. He got out with a career boost, and a clear illustration of just how crazy Schon and Cain really are.

No singer will last if Schon and Cain continue their way of thinking. I give Arnel credit for seizing the opportunity to make a dream come true. There really isnt a bad outcome for him. Its a win win. He plays in Journey and makes a few bucks. That is an upgrade from any lounge band for sure, even if he is fired at the end of the summer.

[jebrich]

Who is this guy ARNEL ?

[Saint John]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

[jebrich]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

Thanks, which bands as he been in?

[Saint John]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

Thanks, which bands as he been in?

Arnel has been a professional singer in Asia since the age of 16. The two bands I'm familiar with are AMO and The Zoo Band. For 23 years this guy has done nothing but record, tour and play gigs. You won't find a harder worker or someone that loves what they do more than this guy....no one.

[jebrich]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

Thanks, which bands as he been in?

Arnel has been a professional singer in Asia since the age of 16. The two bands I'm familiar with are AMO and The Zoo Band. For 23 years this guy has done nothing but record, tour and play gigs. You won't find a harder worker or someone that loves what they do more than this guy....no one.

Thanks, I just found some videos on youtube of him singing Journey with the Zoo band.

This could be interesting, not quiet sure what im thinking

[Saint John]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

Thanks, which bands as he been in?

Arnel has been a professional singer in Asia since the age of 16. The two bands I'm familiar with are AMO and The Zoo Band. For 23 years this guy has done nothing but record, tour and play gigs. You won't find a harder worker or someone that loves what they do more than this guy....no one.

Thanks, I just found some videos on youtube of him singing Journey with the Zoo band.

This could be interesting, not quiet sure what im thinking

While I'm not making excuses for the guy there ARE a few things that need to be mentioned. First, he plays 5-6 gigs a week and they're 5-6 hours each. Second, you really need to isolate his voice as the band has nothing to do with him singing for Journey. Lastly, he's rarely in "full voice" because the schedule is so demanding, and I think that's why Journey was so impressed yet there are only some clips that give you an actual idea of good this dude really is.

[finalfight]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

Thanks, which bands as he been in?

Arnel has been a professional singer in Asia since the age of 16. The two bands I'm familiar with are AMO and The Zoo Band. For 23 years this guy has done nothing but record, tour and play gigs. You won't find a harder worker or someone that loves what they do more than this guy....no one.

Thanks, I just found some videos on youtube of him singing Journey with the Zoo band.

This could be interesting, not quiet sure what im thinking

While I'm not making excuses for the guy there ARE a few things that need to be mentioned. First, he plays 5-6 gigs a week and they're 5-6 hours each. Second, you really need to isolate his voice as the band has nothing to do with him singing for Journey. Lastly, he's rarely in "full voice" because the schedule is so demanding, and I think that's why Journey was so impressed yet there are only some clips that give you an actual idea of good this dude really is.

I heard 3-4 hour gigs, same frequency. Can you imagine playing 6hrs in a stretch?!

[Rip Rokken]

Arnel has been a professional singer in Asia since the age of 16. The two bands I'm familiar with are AMO and The Zoo Band. For 23 years this guy has done nothing but record, tour and play gigs. You won't find a harder worker or someone that loves what they do more than this guy....no one.

While I'm not making excuses for the guy there ARE a few things that need to be mentioned. First, he plays 5-6 gigs a week and they're 5-6 hours each. Second, you really need to isolate his voice as the band has nothing to do with him singing for Journey. Lastly, he's rarely in "full voice" because the schedule is so demanding, and I think that's why Journey was so impressed yet there are only some clips that give you an actual idea of good this dude really is.

Some Asians just have incredible discipline and abilities. Check out those 100lb. Vietnamese dudes that win hot dog eating contests -- maybe Arnel has an incredible ability to sing Journey's catalog for countless dates without wearing out his voice.

[finalfight]

Arnel has been a professional singer in Asia since the age of 16. The two bands I'm familiar with are AMO and The Zoo Band. For 23 years this guy has done nothing but record, tour and play gigs. You won't find a harder worker or someone that loves what they do more than this guy....no one.

While I'm not making excuses for the guy there ARE a few things that need to be mentioned. First, he plays 5-6 gigs a week and they're 5-6 hours each. Second, you really need to isolate his voice as the band has nothing to do with him singing for Journey. Lastly, he's rarely in "full voice" because the schedule is so demanding, and I think that's why Journey was so impressed yet there are only some clips that give you an actual idea of good this dude really is.

Some Asians just have incredible discipline and abilities. Check out those 100lb. Vietnamese dudes that win hot dog eating contests -- maybe Arnel has an incredible ability to sing Journey's catalog for countless dates without wearing out his voice.

Maybe the consumption of large amounts of fast foods is the secret to vocal longevity? Quick, get Augeri on the phone!

[Saint John]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

Thanks, which bands as he been in?

Arnel has been a professional singer in Asia since the age of 16. The two bands I'm familiar with are AMO and The Zoo Band. For 23 years this guy has done nothing but record, tour and play gigs. You won't find a harder worker or someone that loves what they do more than this guy....no one.

Thanks, I just found some videos on youtube of him singing Journey with the Zoo band.

This could be interesting, not quiet sure what im thinking

While I'm not making excuses for the guy there ARE a few things that need to be mentioned. First, he plays 5-6 gigs a week and they're 5-6 hours each. Second, you really need to isolate his voice as the band has nothing to do with him singing for Journey. Lastly, he's rarely in "full voice" because the schedule is so demanding, and I think that's why Journey was so impressed yet there are only some clips that give you an actual idea of good this dude really is.

I heard 3-4 hour gigs, same frequency. Can you imagine playing 6hrs in a stretch?!

The majority of his gigs start at 9pm and end at 3am.

[lights1961]

Corporate Gig Only.

March 6, 2008 at MGM Grand in Vegas - Remax Convention

Hey MGM is no slouch of an arena... lots of great acts have played there.
AWESOME...

Rick

[Red13JoePa]

Arnel has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away.

Pffff.

Well, then that is worrisome then to me.

Not to late to get JSS and Elson back.

[Rip Rokken]

Maybe the consumption of large amounts of fast foods is the secret to vocal longevity? Quick, get Augeri on the phone!

I wouldn't recommend the intake of countless wieners to anyone of the male species.

[lights1961]

someone earlier talked about who they had at their convention...one year we had the pointer sisters at our travel industry convention about 1994 I think in Chicago. That was cool.

Rick

[jebrich]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

Thanks, which bands as he been in?

Arnel has been a professional singer in Asia since the age of 16. The two bands I'm familiar with are AMO and The Zoo Band. For 23 years this guy has done nothing but record, tour and play gigs. You won't find a harder worker or someone that loves what they do more than this guy....no one.

Thanks, I just found some videos on youtube of him singing Journey with the Zoo band.

This could be interesting, not quiet sure what im thinking

While I'm not making excuses for the guy there ARE a few things that need to be mentioned. First, he plays 5-6 gigs a week and they're 5-6 hours each. Second, you really need to isolate his voice as the band has nothing to do with him singing for Journey. Lastly, he's rarely in "full voice" because the schedule is so demanding, and I think that's why Journey was so impressed yet there are only some clips that give you an actual idea of good this dude really is.

I heard 3-4 hour gigs, same frequency. Can you imagine playing 6hrs in a stretch?!

The majority of his gigs start at 9pm and end at 3am.

Whens the next gig, its like a day at work.

[txfirefighter]

A frigging Remax convention at the MGM in Vegas could probably bring down $150k to $300k for the band. Neal won't pass that up.

who would pass it up? honestly now.

Gayle, the lawsuit goes to federal court tomorrow so we'll have the $$$ to have the band at our bbq soon. only $300K. we can afford it!!! in Corpus of course.

our party, our rulz, our $$$. guess who we want to sing??????



ignore me. I'm a brat tonight.

As long as the band is the JSSBand. We will still offer the $300K.

[ArnelRox]

Arnel has performed more gigs than Perry and Augeri combined. Was the stage and setting as big? No, of course not, but the guy is a seasoned veteran who has obviously blown Kevin Shirley away. Think for a second about the singers Shirley has worked with. This guys is obviously the real deal. And if you think Shirley "is just saying that" I'd counter with the fact that he's worked with MUCH bigger acts and had far less praise. Ultimately, time will be the only factor in deciding how good Arnel is. Personally, I'm stoked.

Good post, but one small addition: back in the 80s when Arnel was the lead singer for a band called Amo, the stages & settings were really big.

[ArnelRox]

Thanks, which bands as he been in?

Most likely u wont have heard of any of the bands as he has always been in Asia. He started w/a band called Ijos in the Philippines. After winning awards as best vocalist at the World Band Explosion at Budukan, he joined a band called Amo. They were really popular, on TV & radio all the time. Arnel & some of the members split up & formed a band called New Age & went to Hong Kong. The band went thru several personnel changes & names then morphed into being called Most W@nted winning a Battle of the Bands contest. Arnel decided to return to the Philippes & form a band called The Zoo working w/old friends. He's had 2 albums, self-titled solo CD in 1999 which he wrote & was on Warner Bros. & "Zoology" w/the Zoo which is on MCA Universal.