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Postby sniper16 » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:57 pm

gary pihl is the lead guitarist, and has been, michael will blow everyones mind with his voice this summer,
as for his guitars im sure he will play mostly what brad had done to layer the sound,
so they dont need to bring in a name guitarist. mike is a very good guitar player in his own right.
tom has stated previously about the layring they use on tour, and always have one of the best live mixes in the business.
the last tour you could make out the 3 guitars, and all the vocals (incredible)
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:09 am

sniper16 wrote:gary pihl is the lead guitarist, and has been, michael will blow everyones mind with his voice this summer,
as for his guitars im sure he will play mostly what brad had done to layer the sound,
so they dont need to bring in a name guitarist. mike is a very good guitar player in his own right.
tom has stated previously about the layring they use on tour, and always have one of the best live mixes in the business.
the last tour you could make out the 3 guitars, and all the vocals (incredible)


I saw Boston in 2004 and their live sound was incredible, perhaps the best I've ever heard. They had five guitarists to pull that off (Scholz, Pihl, Fran & Anthony Cosmo, and Delp).
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Postby sniper16 » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:21 am

conversationpc wrote:
sniper16 wrote:gary pihl is the lead guitarist, and has been, michael will blow everyones mind with his voice this summer,
as for his guitars im sure he will play mostly what brad had done to layer the sound,
so they dont need to bring in a name guitarist. mike is a very good guitar player in his own right.
tom has stated previously about the layring they use on tour, and always have one of the best live mixes in the business.
the last tour you could make out the 3 guitars, and all the vocals (incredible)


I saw Boston in 2004 and their live sound was incredible, perhaps the best I've ever heard. They had five guitarists to pull that off (Scholz, Pihl, Fran & Anthony Cosmo, and Delp).

i forgot about anthony and fran playing, you could make out who was playing what with all 5 most of the time.
never heard a better live mix in over 700+ concerts, cant wait to hear them again this summer.
i hope them add a cincinnati show bewteen chicago and indy, if not the 2 hour drive is on, the car knows the way.
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:25 am

sniper16 wrote:
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sniper16 wrote:gary pihl is the lead guitarist, and has been, michael will blow everyones mind with his voice this summer,
as for his guitars im sure he will play mostly what brad had done to layer the sound,
so they dont need to bring in a name guitarist. mike is a very good guitar player in his own right.
tom has stated previously about the layring they use on tour, and always have one of the best live mixes in the business.
the last tour you could make out the 3 guitars, and all the vocals (incredible)


I saw Boston in 2004 and their live sound was incredible, perhaps the best I've ever heard. They had five guitarists to pull that off (Scholz, Pihl, Fran & Anthony Cosmo, and Delp).

i forgot about anthony and fran playing, you could make out who was playing what with all 5 most of the time.
never heard a better live mix in over 700+ concerts, cant wait to hear them again this summer.
i hope them add a cincinnati show bewteen chicago and indy, if not the 2 hour drive is on, the car knows the way.


Scholz is meticulous about Boston's sound and I've heard that those guys rehearse their asses off before they tour.
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Postby mystichealer » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:31 am

Voyager wrote:You can hear Tommy DeCarlo sing on his MySpace page:

http://www.myspace.com/tommydecarlo

Not bad. He'll do great with Michael Sweet.

It's not Brad Delp and Fran Cosmo, but I dare anyone to try to find a good live recording on Boston with those two on vocals. Boston was great in the studio, but were unable to replicate the studio sound in a live setting. All of the live recordings of Boston that I have heard sucked pretty bad.

Tommy has a bad ass guitarist on his recordings!

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You have gotta be kiddin, right? regarding Boston in a live setting sucked?? Head on over to G101 and search Boston. There are huge amounts of live shows there, some of which i posted myself. Check out the 'More than a feeling' boot. The 'Stagestruck' boot. The 'Giants Stadium' boot, and then of course you have to check the infamous 'Long Beach' boot. I defy anyone to say that Boston sucked on any of those boots. Anyone who does must be stone fuckin deaf.
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:32 am

mystichealer wrote:
Voyager wrote:You can hear Tommy DeCarlo sing on his MySpace page:

http://www.myspace.com/tommydecarlo

Not bad. He'll do great with Michael Sweet.

It's not Brad Delp and Fran Cosmo, but I dare anyone to try to find a good live recording on Boston with those two on vocals. Boston was great in the studio, but were unable to replicate the studio sound in a live setting. All of the live recordings of Boston that I have heard sucked pretty bad.

Tommy has a bad ass guitarist on his recordings!

8)


You have gotta be kiddin, right? regarding Boston in a live setting sucked?? Head on over to G101 and search Boston. There are huge amounts of live shows there, some of which i posted myself. Check out the 'More than a feeling' boot. The 'Stagestruck' boot. The 'Giants Stadium' boot, and then of course you have to check the infamous 'Long Beach' boot. I defy anyone to say that Boston sucked on any of those boots. You must be stone freakin deaf.


Ummm...Yeah. The first Boston boot I ever heard wasn't all that fantastic, to tell the truth but I've heard several since then that were above average to excellent.
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Postby Big J » Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:19 am

conversationpc wrote:
mystichealer wrote:
Voyager wrote:You can hear Tommy DeCarlo sing on his MySpace page:

http://www.myspace.com/tommydecarlo

Not bad. He'll do great with Michael Sweet.

It's not Brad Delp and Fran Cosmo, but I dare anyone to try to find a good live recording on Boston with those two on vocals. Boston was great in the studio, but were unable to replicate the studio sound in a live setting. All of the live recordings of Boston that I have heard sucked pretty bad.

Tommy has a bad ass guitarist on his recordings!

8)


You have gotta be kiddin, right? regarding Boston in a live setting sucked?? Head on over to G101 and search Boston. There are huge amounts of live shows there, some of which i posted myself. Check out the 'More than a feeling' boot. The 'Stagestruck' boot. The 'Giants Stadium' boot, and then of course you have to check the infamous 'Long Beach' boot. I defy anyone to say that Boston sucked on any of those boots. You must be stone freakin deaf.


Ummm...Yeah. The first Boston boot I ever heard wasn't all that fantastic, to tell the truth but I've heard several since then that were above average to excellent.


I've got a Portland Rose Garden one from 98 or so where they sound excellent.
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Postby piecesofeight » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:11 am

I actually have to say that everytime I saw Boston with both Brad and Fran they sounded excellent. I was always right up front dead center. One thing about Brad..while he still had it..he was very humble and whenever people would cheer him..he would give Fran the props for helping carry it out and finish up.
Oh yeah..damn..gotta' love that everytime I saw them they had like five guitars going..great stuff.
Damn..while I am going to really miss Brad..and Fran..I am excited to see how this is going to play out.
I'm curious as this goes on and I read more about this online at different sites to find out how many people are as huge of Stryper and Boston fans as I am.
I know they both affected my life big time. I can also find a song from one of them that puts me back to where I need to be.
Damn..I remember years ago living in San Diego when I was just a youngen and pulling out songs from both of them to pump me up to be able to go and get them dreams that I had moved to San Diego for. Good stulff. Both have such a great uplifting message.
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Postby piecesofeight » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:14 am

conversationpc wrote:Scholz is meticulous about Boston's sound and I've heard that those guys rehearse their asses off before they tour.



That's the one part of this that could be interesting..Michael is a perfectionist too. Could be awesome or could be interesting.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:15 am

Brad and Fran were both awesome, but I've gotta say, I'm unfamiliar with Stryper/Sweet, but he sounds unreal on that video. How come no Ohio date this time around?

I really hope they keep pulling some gems out to play... I really enjoyed hearing "Surrender To Me" and "Magdalene" from Walk On in 04(??). I'd love to hear It's Easy, A Man I'll Never Be, I Think I Like It, Can'tcha Say, I Need Your Love, and We Can Make It get dusted off...

Re: Boston's live sound. Both times I saw them (I think in 03 and 04, whichever years they did the back to back tours...) their sound was great once it was established but both times the first 3 or 4 songs of the set were ruined because the vocals were literally inaudible and the guitars were almost nonexistent. It's like they had so much going on, so many instruments/vocals etc to worry about mixing that the sound man couldn't even figure it out until the show was 3 or 4 songs deep. Too bad the songs that got ruined were classics like Feelin Satisfied, Rock n Roll Band, and Peace of Mind...
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Postby piecesofeight » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:31 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Brad and Fran were both awesome, but I've gotta say, I'm unfamiliar with Stryper/Sweet, but he sounds unreal on that video. How come no Ohio date this time around?

I really hope they keep pulling some gems out to play... I really enjoyed hearing "Surrender To Me" and "Magdalene" from Walk On in 04(??). I'd love to hear It's Easy, A Man I'll Never Be, I Think I Like It, Can'tcha Say, I Need Your Love, and We Can Make It get dusted off...

Re: Boston's live sound. Both times I saw them (I think in 03 and 04, whichever years they did the back to back tours...) their sound was great once it was established but both times the first 3 or 4 songs of the set were ruined because the vocals were literally inaudible and the guitars were almost nonexistent. It's like they had so much going on, so many instruments/vocals etc to worry about mixing that the sound man couldn't even figure it out until the show was 3 or 4 songs deep. Too bad the songs that got ruined were classics like Feelin Satisfied, Rock n Roll Band, and Peace of Mind...



As far as Styper/Michael goes..and I am no way trying to push anything..if you want to listen to some unreal Stryper without thinking you are listening to 'Christian' rock if that's not your thing..check out their 'To Hell With The Devil Album' Musically and vocally..it's an insane album. I say this many times..but I will play that album and people will be blown away when I tell them who it is. Like they wouldn't have liked it if they had known.. :P

When Michael went solo and left Stryper..he really went in a different direction and the stuff he continues to do proves he can really sing anything from mellow to HARD rock to what Boston does.

One criteria for me as I got older and realized was that the groups I really liked..the singer could SING. Could really carry a tune. Some of the people today that lead groups.. :x


I don't think that Brad Delp really got the kudos for his voice. It seems he's never really been on those list of best singers of all time. I get chills when I think of him singing 'I see my Marianne walking away....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then you get that kick ass Boston music that follows.
I think what was so cool about Boston is that they had their own thing going on and it was embraces big time.
How could it not be with that voice with that music with those REAL hand claps.. :P
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Postby LazzMan » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:49 pm

The proof is already out there as far as Michael's vocals on his own stuff, Stryper and we have already heard him sing Boston and know he can.

This has nothing to do with who he is or what he has done..he can flat out still sing and many of the Boston songs are perfect for his voice/style.
Except for a few dicks who want to play with his beliefs and how he used to dress and being a part of all that..the response has been great.

His beliefs and how he used to dress have nothing to do with how he sings and what he will do on the Boston songs.

Tom is a perfectionist..as is Michael..Tom would not bring him in if he didn't believe..period.
I think by now with different stuff that has been posted from rescent stuff..people are learning more about Michael than just that damn song 'Honestly' ..which some have used to nail him with..and that fact that he used to dress like a bumble bee.


Well said. I think there are many of us who look back to our mullet-wearing, Aquanet, Spandex days of 20 years ago with a little embarassment. But, hey...it was the style back then. If he still dressed like that well, that would be another matter altogether.

Michael is great. After seeing him perform I can tell every naysayer who questions this move to just watch him once. He will blow the doors off this gig. He's a GREAT singer (a true 3-octave range...even at 44 years old), a really, really good guitar player, he's got miles and miles of energy, and a huge stage presence. But, he is also a true genuine guy who sincerely respects Brad Delp and the legacy of the band. For those who don't care for the Stryper message, this one of the best secular Stryper tunes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yukAClPo ... re=related

Cheers!! Michael Sweet Rocks!!
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:56 pm

LazzMan wrote:
The proof is already out there as far as Michael's vocals on his own stuff, Stryper and we have already heard him sing Boston and know he can.

This has nothing to do with who he is or what he has done..he can flat out still sing and many of the Boston songs are perfect for his voice/style.
Except for a few dicks who want to play with his beliefs and how he used to dress and being a part of all that..the response has been great.

His beliefs and how he used to dress have nothing to do with how he sings and what he will do on the Boston songs.

Tom is a perfectionist..as is Michael..Tom would not bring him in if he didn't believe..period.
I think by now with different stuff that has been posted from rescent stuff..people are learning more about Michael than just that damn song 'Honestly' ..which some have used to nail him with..and that fact that he used to dress like a bumble bee.


Well said. I think there are many of us who look back to our mullet-wearing, Aquanet, Spandex days of 20 years ago with a little embarassment. But, hey...it was the style back then. If he still dressed like that well, that would be another matter altogether.

Michael is great. After seeing him perform I can tell every naysayer who questions this move to just watch him once. He will blow the doors off this gig. He's a GREAT singer (a true 3-octave range...even at 44 years old), a really, really good guitar player, he's got miles and miles of energy, and a huge stage presence. But, he is also a true genuine guy who sincerely respects Brad Delp and the legacy of the band. For those who don't care for the Stryper message, this one of the best secular Stryper tunes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yukAClPo ... re=related

Cheers!! Michael Sweet Rocks!!


loved that !! GREAT rockin Tune.. terrible acting in the beginning.. :wink: and it would really tick me off if i was moving all that equipment and they were dancing around playing loud..

i dont like the fact that m.sweet gets to sing lead,, play lead, and then toss his guitar when the song is done and act cool.. ozz gets nothing .. 8)
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Postby Deb » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:03 pm

LazzMan wrote:Michael is great. After seeing him perform I can tell every naysayer who questions this move to just watch him once. He will blow the doors off this gig. He's a GREAT singer (a true 3-octave range...even at 44 years old),


And a heck of a rocknroll screamer. Check out the end of the clip! :shock: :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gln-p8r2V4
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Postby Journey69 » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:13 pm

Voyager wrote:You can hear Tommy DeCarlo sing on his MySpace page:

http://www.myspace.com/tommydecarlo

Not bad. He'll do great with Michael Sweet.

It's not Brad Delp and Fran Cosmo, but I dare anyone to try to find a good live recording on Boston with those two on vocals. Boston was great in the studio, but were unable to replicate the studio sound in a live setting. All of the live recordings of Boston that I have heard sucked pretty bad.

Tommy has a bad ass guitarist on his recordings!

8)


This guy has a great voice..Damn he sounds close to Brad..wow..Don't think he has the range Brad did tho..
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Postby piecesofeight » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:39 pm

Deb wrote:
LazzMan wrote:Michael is great. After seeing him perform I can tell every naysayer who questions this move to just watch him once. He will blow the doors off this gig. He's a GREAT singer (a true 3-octave range...even at 44 years old),


And a heck of a rocknroll screamer. Check out the end of the clip! :shock: :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gln-p8r2V4


I haven't watched all of these for quality..I am on dial up.. :roll: anyway..this song at the end is always what I think of when I think of his scream-

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YTNtWcFVgLg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sPhhS2Q4CY
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Postby LazzMan » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:29 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
LazzMan wrote:
The proof is already out there as far as Michael's vocals on his own stuff, Stryper and we have already heard him sing Boston and know he can.

This has nothing to do with who he is or what he has done..he can flat out still sing and many of the Boston songs are perfect for his voice/style.
Except for a few dicks who want to play with his beliefs and how he used to dress and being a part of all that..the response has been great.

His beliefs and how he used to dress have nothing to do with how he sings and what he will do on the Boston songs.

Tom is a perfectionist..as is Michael..Tom would not bring him in if he didn't believe..period.
I think by now with different stuff that has been posted from rescent stuff..people are learning more about Michael than just that damn song 'Honestly' ..which some have used to nail him with..and that fact that he used to dress like a bumble bee.


Well said. I think there are many of us who look back to our mullet-wearing, Aquanet, Spandex days of 20 years ago with a little embarassment. But, hey...it was the style back then. If he still dressed like that well, that would be another matter altogether.

Michael is great. After seeing him perform I can tell every naysayer who questions this move to just watch him once. He will blow the doors off this gig. He's a GREAT singer (a true 3-octave range...even at 44 years old), a really, really good guitar player, he's got miles and miles of energy, and a huge stage presence. But, he is also a true genuine guy who sincerely respects Brad Delp and the legacy of the band. For those who don't care for the Stryper message, this one of the best secular Stryper tunes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yukAClPo ... re=related

Cheers!! Michael Sweet Rocks!!


loved that !! GREAT rockin Tune.. terrible acting in the beginning.. :wink: and it would really tick me off if i was moving all that equipment and they were dancing around playing loud..

i dont like the fact that m.sweet gets to sing lead,, play lead, and then toss his guitar when the song is done and act cool.. ozz gets nothing .. 8)


Yeah, it's funny when you look back 20+ years...you really realize how some of the best songs produced the worst videos. Lest we never forget the worst video of all time, "Separate Ways". Holy shit, that was bad.

That is Oz spinning his guitar at the end but, you're right, other than that he doesn't get much else in this video. :D
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Postby LazzMan » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:49 pm

Deb wrote:
LazzMan wrote:Michael is great. After seeing him perform I can tell every naysayer who questions this move to just watch him once. He will blow the doors off this gig. He's a GREAT singer (a true 3-octave range...even at 44 years old),


And a heck of a rocknroll screamer. Check out the end of the clip! :shock: :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gln-p8r2V4


That's impressive that he can sing the same songs, in the same key, and hit the same sreamer notes across the span of twenty years. In 1985 he was 22 years old, in 2004 he was 41. He's sung these songs the same way hundreds and hundreds of times. It's amazing that he can still talk at all much less continue to sing these songs in the same key 20 years later.
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Postby LazzMan » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:53 pm

piecesofeight wrote:
Deb wrote:
LazzMan wrote:Michael is great. After seeing him perform I can tell every naysayer who questions this move to just watch him once. He will blow the doors off this gig. He's a GREAT singer (a true 3-octave range...even at 44 years old),


And a heck of a rocknroll screamer. Check out the end of the clip! :shock: :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gln-p8r2V4


I haven't watched all of these for quality..I am on dial up.. :roll: anyway..this song at the end is always what I think of when I think of his scream-

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YTNtWcFVgLg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sPhhS2Q4CY


I tried singing that part once when I was 18 or 19 years old. Almost killed myself trying. Now, at 38, I lose my voice just thinking about it. WOW!!
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Postby piecesofeight » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:16 am

I saw Stryper 11 times on the 2003 reunion tour. Most of the shows were back to back because it just so happened that during the time we were taking vacation that year..that the Stryper tour was happening somewhat close to home. Anyway..he was on it every night..in an insane way I must say. Even the night he was sick.
I say it again and again. Michael and DDY not only can still sing..but maybe better than ever. I truly believe a clean lifestyle and continueing to sing over the years and then of course flat out God given talent is what has helped them.

Anyway..on the tour in 2003..he could go from singing a basic rock Stryper song like Always There For You to screaming on The Way to singing Honeslty. He literally had peoples mouths dropping at the shows. We always knew he could sing..but to hear it many years later live sound better than ever..wow. The live shows..that's where there's prove in the puddin'

My point in all of this..is yes..the dude can still sing and scream and talk just fine later and do back to back to back shows no problem.

Whatever this turns into..I can see him handling double duties with Stryper and Boston no problem at all.

Plus the guy can sing anything. He can sing a hymn, a ballad, a rock song or scream his heart out. He truly has an amazing voice and youtube doesn't even do it just.
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Postby LazzMan » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:45 am

piecesofeight wrote:I saw Stryper 11 times on the 2003 reunion tour. Most of the shows were back to back because it just so happened that during the time we were taking vacation that year..that the Stryper tour was happening somewhat close to home. Anyway..he was on it every night..in an insane way I must say. Even the night he was sick.
I say it again and again. Michael and DDY not only can still sing..but maybe better than ever. I truly believe a clean lifestyle and continueing to sing over the years and then of course flat out God given talent is what has helped them.

Anyway..on the tour in 2003..he could go from singing a basic rock Stryper song like Always There For You to screaming on The Way to singing Honeslty. He literally had peoples mouths dropping at the shows. We always knew he could sing..but to hear it many years later live sound better than ever..wow. The live shows..that's where there's prove in the puddin'

My point in all of this..is yes..the dude can still sing and scream and talk just fine later and do back to back to back shows no problem.

Whatever this turns into..I can see him handling double duties with Stryper and Boston no problem at all.

Plus the guy can sing anything. He can sing a hymn, a ballad, a rock song or scream his heart out. He truly has an amazing voice and youtube doesn't even do it just.


I hope this works out for him to do both. This is as much publicity as Michael has gotten since MTV brought Stryper into the mainstream back in the '80's. Even then it was more about Stryper and their message than it was about him. Good for him. So many talented Christian artists don't get recognized as the talented musicians they are simply because their audience is fairly limited. I always thought that he was one of the best rock vocalists around, anywhere. John Schlitt from Petra is another one. Here's a guy who, back in his day, could absolutely blow everybody else away but, if you didn't follow Christian music, you probably never heard of him. Unlike Stryper, Petra never got onto the MTV scene and they never did anything that could be marketed as mainstream.

I hope Michael can make it work with both Boston and Stryper. I have heard interviews with Robert and Oz and they seem to really get along with the Boston folks and they support Michael 100%. I see a potential problem and that is people will absolutely be blown away by him and Boston will get big again. This will put Michael at a crossroads...do I stay with something I helped create that supports what I believe or, do I go for a lot more money and mainstream success. A lot of praying at that point. Of course, the other "X-factor" here is his wife's health. She's in remission now but, Stage 4 ovarian cancer is about as serious as it gets.
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Postby piecesofeight » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:47 am

LazzMan wrote:I hope this works out for him to do both. This is as much publicity as Michael has gotten since MTV brought Stryper into the mainstream back in the '80's. Even then it was more about Stryper and their message than it was about him. Good for him. So many talented Christian artists don't get recognized as the talented musicians they are simply because their audience is fairly limited. I always thought that he was one of the best rock vocalists around, anywhere. John Schlitt from Petra is another one. Here's a guy who, back in his day, could absolutely blow everybody else away but, if you didn't follow Christian music, you probably never heard of him. Unlike Stryper, Petra never got onto the MTV scene and they never did anything that could be marketed as mainstream.

I hope Michael can make it work with both Boston and Stryper. I have heard interviews with Robert and Oz and they seem to really get along with the Boston folks and they support Michael 100%. I see a potential problem and that is people will absolutely be blown away by him and Boston will get big again. This will put Michael at a crossroads...do I stay with something I helped create that supports what I believe or, do I go for a lot more money and mainstream success. A lot of praying at that point. Of course, the other "X-factor" here is his wife's health. She's in remission now but, Stage 4 ovarian cancer is about as serious as it gets.



Great post. Made me think of a lot of things. I was just in awe when Stryper was on MTV in the 80's. Always There For You, Calling On You and Honeslty. I was glad the other two got played too and not just Honesltly because even though that's sadly what most people think of when they think of Stryper..you also got to see them rocking more and even those other two songs were not as hard as some of their other stuff. Whenever anyone ask me what album to get..hands down without hesitation I say To Hell With The Devil. One of my favorite all time albums from anyone.
Michael new exactly what sound I liked exactly from a ballad, to a pop rock sock to heavy metal..lol.. :P To have the sound that my ears needed put to the words I needed to hear..it was all truly unreal.

Michael's talent got overlooked because of the bad rap they got all around. All of them are very talented. Oz playing and vocals are great. Robert is a great drummer and all of them harmonized with the best of them. You had the religious stations who wouldn't play them because they either thought it was a con or that their music was too hard. Mainstream really didn't want to touch them because of the religious stuff. Even though Stryper got lumped intot he hair band thing because of how they looked and when they really were at the top of their game..I actually see it as a good thing now. If it wasn't for that period and how they fit it..they may not have had the success they did.

I am glad that most..except for the true assholes who are just trying to start things on some other boards..are just looking at Michael's talents as far as his voice and guitar and not the whole 'why in the hell is that Stryper Christian dude in Boston'
Michael playing guitar..and playing it very well..had to help with this whole Boston thing too.
Michael and Oz both have amazing voices and play the guitar with the best of them and their talents get overlooked being lumped in with not only the hair band thing..but the Christian thing. If you really think about it..the fact that they even made it and are still around today speaks volumes for their talent because they had a lot of wammies going against them.

Let's see if I have this story right. I believe Farewell..who they same helped them to get saved was even slamming and doubting them early on.

I'm still sort of chuckling and pinching myself because as you say..this is huge publicity for Michael..which leads to good things for Stryper. While I'm not totally blown away that Michael has continued to stay around..because of his talents..years ago with all the ups and downs of Stryper..and leaving them..working on in laws camp/crannberry thing..solo career..side projects..back to Stryper..etc..

Even though he managed to stay around..you are right..not really as mainstream as this except for the Stryper and MTV stuff.

Pretty scary to think that his daughter almost had a cancer scare too. One thing about Michael..no matter how much he has going on..he always takes care of his family and has things in place to make sure they are always fine and is always there even while doing what he does.

From everything I know from meeting Michael numerous times and talking to him and everything I have read about it..even from his own bandmates..I don't think he'd pick money so to speak over anything else.
I think Tom is smart in getting two singers for a few reasons. At the end..before Fran left..Boston was at their best for me when it was both Brad and Fran singing in concert. You got to hear them do their own songs and they complimented each other well. Tom of course also knows that Michael is in another band. A band that he is the leader. If Michael couldn't do Boston anymore..Tom would have Tommy.
I believe for Michael it would be more about his commitments and love to Stryper and his family over let's say choosing Boston full time for money if they got that big again.
Now I love Michael and Boston..so I feel comfortable saying this. I am not to worried about it because while I believe it's going to go well..I don't think it's going to get so huge that it will be a problem.

Michael is a really, really good guy and will do what he feels is right.
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