Salt Lake Review

[wednesday's child]

]Because there’s schadefraude to be discovered in watching so many confuse a creative death knell for an artistic renaissance.
I’ve got ringside seats to the final days of Pompeii, and the sulfuric fumes tickling my nose hairs only make me laugh harder.

But....
You must realize Heisenberg's Principle applies, yes?
You're hardly in a front-seat, observational mode,
with your very vocal doomsaying.

Why risk denying yourself the nihilistic spectacle you crave,
potentially altering or swaying from its course, that very event
which you you imagine likely?


-wech

[Matthew]

So why the fuck do you bother spending so much time here,
with folks who disgust you, on a forum about a band you so clearly dislike?
Seriously: inquiring minds wanna boggle at your reasoning on this.

-wech

Because there’s schadefraude to be discovered in watching so many confuse a creative death knell for an artistic renaissance.
I’ve got ringside seats to the final days of Pompeii, and the sulfuric fumes tickling my nose hairs only make me laugh harder.

And yet you're a fan of the new album...

[wednesday's child]

He'll as likely be a fan of the next album, and claim it's yet another death rattle.

[Matthew]

He'll as likely be a fan of the next album, and claim it's yet another death rattle.

Ah...spare a thought for the old guard of the Augeri era though. TNC, Monker, Strangegrey and all the other zealots who spent years fighting the good fight on behalf of the new guy...only to see that promise end in failure and disgrace. But they could at least comfort themselves and excuse it all away by saying, "Journey are clueless and corrupt...", "Azoff is too rich and lazy to care", "the market has moved on..", "they'll be playing at pig fairs next summer..." and so on.

And now that Journey have a Top Ten record and are packing out 20,000 seater arenas across the land....well ,the old guard just doesn't know what to do with itself. It's like watching some poor goldfish flip flop around on the floor after being tipped out of its bowl...

[ttango1]

He'll as likely be a fan of the next album, and claim it's yet another death rattle.

Ah...spare a thought for the old guard of the Augeri era though. TNC, Monker, Strangegrey and all the other zealots who spent years fighting the good fight on behalf of the new guy...only to see that promise end in failure and disgrace. But they could at least comfort themselves and excuse it all away by saying, "Journey are clueless and corrupt...", "Azoff is too rich and lazy to care", "the market has moved on..", "they'll be playing at pig fairs next summer..." and so on.

And now that Journey have a Top Ten record and are packing out 20,000 seater arenas across the land....well ,the old guard just doesn't know what to do with itself. It's like watching some poor goldfish flip flop around on the floor after being tipped out of its bowl...

Exactly.

But hey, since we're talking about goldfish...
http://www.online-funny-games.com/rs/sa ... _fish.html

[sniper16]

3 for 3 and all that talk about AP being a Parrot, or sounding too much like SP or not enough, or crashing and burning and all that stuff is naught but a memory.

Those threads are out there and a great many who said those things or worse, well... there are many of us who are now saying...TOLD YOU.

Anyways, hope is great, and when it begets success, it's even better.

Only a Journey fan blind to history and impervious to its teachings is currently crowing “TOLD YOU SO.”
After so many non-starts, there was no reasonable expectation for success with this band.
Revelation’s success doesn’t prove you right, it just proves cosmological anomalies do happen.
Revelation is indeed a fine album, but I'd just as rather dunk my scrotum in a laboratory centrifuge before identifying myself as a current Journey fan.
You people disgust me.

IF YOUR NOT A FAN ANYMORE THEN WHY DO YOU WASTE YOUR TIME POSTING IN THIS FORUM
JUST LURK SULK, AND PINE UNTIL YOUR BELOVED PERRY RELEASES HIS PLATIMUN SOLO CD, AND
SOLD OUT STADIUM WOULD TOUR.

[Matthew]

3 for 3 and all that talk about AP being a Parrot, or sounding too much like SP or not enough, or crashing and burning and all that stuff is naught but a memory.

Those threads are out there and a great many who said those things or worse, well... there are many of us who are now saying...TOLD YOU.

Anyways, hope is great, and when it begets success, it's even better.

Only a Journey fan blind to history and impervious to its teachings is currently crowing “TOLD YOU SO.”
After so many non-starts, there was no reasonable expectation for success with this band.
Revelation’s success doesn’t prove you right, it just proves cosmological anomalies do happen.
Revelation is indeed a fine album, but I'd just as rather dunk my scrotum in a laboratory centrifuge before identifying myself as a current Journey fan.
You people disgust me.

IF YOUR NOT A FAN ANYMORE THEN WHY DO YOU WASTE YOUR TIME POSTING IN THIS FORUM
JUST LURK SULK, AND PINE UNTIL YOUR BELOVED PERRY RELEASES HIS PLATIMUN SOLO CD, AND
SOLD OUT STADIUM WOULD TOUR.

To be fair to TNC...he has taken the piss out of Perry more than almost anyone else on this forum. For a long time his avatar was that rather unfortunate photograph of Perry with the cat on his lap and he recently compared the Perry's fans to "cockroaches" who "infested" this site.

All of this though makes the stance he's taking so hard to fathom. You'd think he'd feel vindicated that Journey have finally tasted some success without Perry and would be lording it up.

[Red13JoePa]

To be fair to TNC...he has taken the piss out of Perry more than almost anyone else on this forum. For a long time his avatar was that rather unfortunate photograph of Perry with the cat on his lap and he recently compared the Perry's fans to "cockroaches" who "infested" this site.

Yep.
He's an equal-opp basher and that Av STILL gets me to fog up when I think about it.
A true classic it was.

[twinklestar]

AP is doing great. Now if we can get these yahoos off of youtube saying he is better than Perry or “Perry sang in falsetto”. All that stuff does is make people resent Arnel. Put an end to that nonsense and all will be right in the world of Journey.

AMEN

I really hope these guys realize it doesn't do AP any good.

Short(sighted) people have no reason to......post

[Tito]

3 for 3 and all that talk about AP being a Parrot, or sounding too much like SP or not enough, or crashing and burning and all that stuff is naught but a memory.

Those threads are out there and a great many who said those things or worse, well... there are many of us who are now saying...TOLD YOU.

Anyways, hope is great, and when it begets success, it's even better.

Only a Journey fan blind to history and impervious to its teachings is currently crowing “TOLD YOU SO.”
After so many non-starts, there was no reasonable expectation for success with this band.
Revelation’s success doesn’t prove you right, it just proves cosmological anomalies do happen.
Revelation is indeed a fine album, but I'd just as rather dunk my scrotum in a laboratory centrifuge before identifying myself as a current Journey fan.
You people disgust me.

That disgusts me.

[The_Noble_Cause]

But....
You must realize Heisenberg's Principle applies, yes?
You're hardly in a front-seat, observational mode,
with your very vocal doomsaying.

Actually, I think I took the Einstein-Rosenberg bridge to go play with Schrödinger’s cat the day that was being taught in school.
Care to enlighten me?

[The_Noble_Cause]

IF YOUR NOT A FAN ANYMORE THEN WHY DO YOU WASTE YOUR TIME POSTING IN THIS FORUM
JUST LURK SULK, AND PINE UNTIL YOUR BELOVED PERRY RELEASES HIS PLATIMUN SOLO CD, AND
SOLD OUT STADIUM WOULD TOUR.

It's Andrew's forum, man. Eat shit.

[The_Noble_Cause]

He'll as likely be a fan of the next album, and claim it's yet another death rattle.

Journey's current success was not achieved on the merits of their new album. Far from it.
The new disc was shrink-wrapped with two discs of classic material that continues to sell.
Likewise, the only limited success the Augeri-era had was from the hits-comprised Vegas dvd that went gold.

[The_Noble_Cause]

All of this though makes the stance he's taking so hard to fathom. You'd think he'd feel vindicated that Journey have finally tasted some success without Perry and would be lording it up.

The only thing vindicated is Perry’s indelible chokehold on this band.
Success was only achieved through faustian dealmaking, including a singer aping Perry far worse than Augeri, and re-recording hits Perry popularized.
Neal once spoke of fearing becoming a nostalgia act, this time he actively courted it.

[mistiejourney]

Shoreline Amphitheater in Mt. View, CA was sold out less than a week after tix went on sale. This is going to be a VERY successful tour for these guys.

The nay sayers can suck it.

Barb's feisty today!

Four and five star still available! (Yeah, I checked. )

[Tito]

He'll as likely be a fan of the next album, and claim it's yet another death rattle.

Journey's current success was not achieved on the merits of their new album. Far from it.
The new disc was shrink-wrapped with two discs of classic material that continues to sell.
Likewise, the only limited success the Augeri-era had was from the hits-comprised Vegas dvd that went gold.

Didn't the Greatest Hits rechart or go #1 on the Catalog list the first week of Revelation?

[Saint John]

Only a Journey fan blind to history and impervious to its teachings is currently crowing “TOLD YOU SO.”

Why's that? Some of us immediately saw that Arnel was head and shoulders better than Augeri and Soto and a rather nice fit. Don't blame us for being able to recognize talent.

After so many non-starts, there was no reasonable expectation for success with this band.

Make that one "non-start." Augeri...that's it. Soto was a temporary replacement regardless of what the "official "press release said. That was just done to put an end to the internet cackling of a few disturbed individuals. I find it highly ironic that Soto's so called fans may have been the very reason that he had his heart broken. Doesn't excuse the band or management, but it sure as shit makes me howl with laughter.

Revelation’s success doesn’t prove you right, it just proves cosmological anomalies do happen.

As do sold out shows, great reviews and a band that's having fun again I suppose.

Revelation is indeed a fine album, but I'd just as rather dunk my scrotum in a laboratory centrifuge before identifying myself as a current Journey fan.

By allmeans, don't let us stand in your way. Dunk away, my friend.

You people disgust me.

Sucks being so wrong, eh? Don't worry, I was at least that wrong about Perry a handful of times. You'll live.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Only a Journey fan blind to history and impervious to its teachings is currently crowing “TOLD YOU SO.”

Why's that? Some of us immediately saw that Arnel was head and shoulders better than Augeri and Soto and a rather nice fit. Don't blame us for being able to recognize talent.

After so many non-starts, there was no reasonable expectation for success with this band.

Make that one "non-start." Augeri...that's it. Soto was a temporary replacement regardless of what the "official "press release said. That was just done to put an end to the internet cackling of a few disturbed individuals. I find it highly ironic that Soto's so called fans may have been the very reason that he had his heart broken. Doesn't excuse the band or management, but it sure as shit makes me howl with laughter.

Revelation’s success doesn’t prove you right, it just proves cosmological anomalies do happen.

As do sold out shows, great reviews and a band that's having fun again I suppose.

Revelation is indeed a fine album, but I'd just as rather dunk my scrotum in a laboratory centrifuge before identifying myself as a current Journey fan.

By all means, don't let us stand in your way. Dunk away, my friend.

You people disgust me.

Sucks being so wrong, eh? Don't worry, I was at least that wrong about Perry a handful of times. You'll live.

Saint John, no matter how often you purse your lips and leave Hello Kitty chapstick rings on Neal’s flacid cock, you will never ingratiate yourself into his inner circle. Give it up, man.

[Saint John]

Saint John, no matter how often you purse your lips and leave Hello Kitty chapstick rings on Neal’s flacid cock, you will never ingratiate yourself into his inner circle. Give it up, man.

I gotta give credit where credit's due and that was an outstanding cut down, man!!! That said, I do not now, nor have I ever wanted, to be in Schon's inner circle. I'll say it again...the only dude who's hand I'd like shake is Mr. Pineda's. I've met the rest of the band, and save for one bad incident with Mr. Friga, have found them all to be decent people. Then again, I only say hello and goodbye. Tito's the dude you may want to target here considering he brought at least 30 fucking things to the meet and greet I went to with him. I brought nothing and said nothing. In fact, I was sitting on a leather couch watching the Yankees and Diamonbacks (Yankees for sure...I think they were playing the D-backs) rather than stand in a long line like some asshole.

[stevew2]

Only a Journey fan blind to history and impervious to its teachings is currently crowing “TOLD YOU SO.”

Why's that? Some of us immediately saw that Arnel was head and shoulders better than Augeri and Soto and a rather nice fit. Don't blame us for being able to recognize talent.

After so many non-starts, there was no reasonable expectation for success with this band.

Make that one "non-start." Augeri...that's it. Soto was a temporary replacement regardless of what the "official "press release said. That was just done to put an end to the internet cackling of a few disturbed individuals. I find it highly ironic that Soto's so called fans may have been the very reason that he had his heart broken. Doesn't excuse the band or management, but it sure as shit makes me howl with laughter.

Revelation’s success doesn’t prove you right, it just proves cosmological anomalies do happen.

As do sold out shows, great reviews and a band that's having fun again I suppose.

Revelation is indeed a fine album, but I'd just as rather dunk my scrotum in a laboratory centrifuge before identifying myself as a current Journey fan.

By all means, don't let us stand in your way. Dunk away, my friend.

You people disgust me.

Sucks being so wrong, eh? Don't worry, I was at least that wrong about Perry a handful of times. You'll live.

Saint John, no matter how often you purse your lips and leave Hello Kitty chapstick rings on Neal’s flacid cock, you will never ingratiate yourself into his inner circle. Give it up, man.

That was beautiful you should be proud

[StoneCold]

I've met the rest of the band, and save for one bad incident with Mr. Friga, have found them all to be decent people.

Guess I missed that story, care to revisit for us?

[Tito]

Saint John, no matter how often you purse your lips and leave Hello Kitty chapstick rings on Neal’s flacid cock, you will never ingratiate yourself into his inner circle. Give it up, man.

I gotta give credit where credit's due and that was an outstanding cut down, man!!! That said, I do not now, nor have I ever wanted, to be in Schon's inner circle. I'll say it again...the only dude who's hand I'd like shake is Mr. Pineda's. I've met the rest of the band, and save for one bad incident with Mr. Friga, have found them all to be decent people. Then again, I only say hello and goodbye. Tito's the dude you may want to target here considering he brought at least 30 fucking things to the meet and greet I went to with him. I brought nothing and said nothing. In fact, I was sitting on a leather couch watching the Yankees and Diamonbacks (Yankees for sure...I think they were playing the D-backs) rather than stand in a long line like some asshole.

It was the Padres. Yankees v. Padres '98. It wasn't 30. It was only a dozen or so. Also, the Cain thing wasn't bad at all. You're overblowing it.

[Tito]

I've met the rest of the band, and save for one bad incident with Mr. Friga, have found them all to be decent people.

Guess I missed that story, care to revisit for us?

No. It was nothing. Totally overhyped. I actually kind of found it funny.

[Saint John]

I've met the rest of the band, and save for one bad incident with Mr. Friga, have found them all to be decent people.

Guess I missed that story, care to revisit for us?

Tito was standing in line to have one of the 30 things he brought with to be signed...and I'm not exaggerating, it was 30 fucking things, man!!! Anyway, Tito hands Friga his TBF CD and Friga yells something like "Hey Neal, look at him. He has to look the other way (talking about Perry in the picture). Poor me...blah, blah, blah" Neal just kinda smirked and laughed, but I think he was a bit embarrassed. I was a fullblown Loon at the time and had to step away and miss out on watching Tito humiliate himself as he asked for all 30 things to be signed. At one point, Tito asked me to calm down I believe. I was wrecked so he'll probably remember the story better than me. Tito?

[Michigan Girl]

[Michigan Girl]

[Barb]

Shoreline Amphitheater in Mt. View, CA was sold out less than a week after tix went on sale. This is going to be a VERY successful tour for these guys.

The nay sayers can suck it.

Barb's feisty today!

Four and five star still available! (Yeah, I checked. )

I was talking about Ticket Master. I completely forget ILAA even exists.

[Saint John]

I completely forget ILAA even exists.

It's not hard!!!

[Tito]

I've met the rest of the band, and save for one bad incident with Mr. Friga, have found them all to be decent people.

Guess I missed that story, care to revisit for us?

Tito was standing in line to have one of the 30 things he brought with to be signed...and I'm not exaggerating, it was 30 fucking things, man!!! Anyway, Tito hands Friga his TBF CD and Friga yells something like "Hey Neal, look at him. He has to look the other way (talking about Perry in the picture). Poor me...blah, blah, blah" Neal just kinda smirked and laughed, but I think he was a bit embarrassed. I was a fullblown Loon at the time and had to step away and miss out on watching Tito humiliate himself as he asked for all 30 things to be signed. At one point, Tito asked me to calm down I believe. I was wrecked so he'll probably remember the story better than me. Tito?

All he said in reference to the TBF back cover, "(crying) Look at me, I'm not a part of the band." or something to the effect. He did NOT say, "Hey Neal." He said that to me a few other fans standing around. WE (the others and I) laughed. I don't recall you being that mad. But, then again I was busy getting "30" things signed. So, my attention was diverted. For the record, it was 15 at most, 20 tops.

[Tito]

I just recounted in my head, it was no more than 12 things signed and possibly less.