Arnel talks about his past drug problems...

[Onestepper]

While maybe the thread title could have been constructed better..who fricken cares. Like she said, not everyone lives and breaths Arnel and/or Journey. I had no idea about this, so I found the article interesting and inspiring. Just because something doesn't look all rosy on the outside regarding our idols, doesn't mean there is always a need to not admit it's there. If Arnel doesn't try to hide it and actually speaks out about it, not sure why anyone else would have a problem with it.

Because the technically accurate thread title didn't present it as a personal triumph against all odds.

Hey, man. No one is advocating being a perpetual cheerleader for anyone or especially hiding any of this stuff, but there are a lot of "technically accurate" things that can be said about all of us that take things out of perspective. The thread was titled such to get a certain kind of reaction, plain and simple.

While I agree the title looked out of context to a degree...and maybe if she had added something like 'hey, did you guys know about this?' or 'I had no idea' to the body of her post, but ultimately the response she got was not based on just the title..there were enough 'who cares', quit trying to bring him down' posts that clearly illustrated people's desire to bury the subject.

Do you mind if i squirt some shit on your avatar so I dont have to look at a bush doom?

Ha. Go right ahead. I only put it up when I saw Andrew have such a freaked out reaction to it when someone put up 2012.

[stevew2]

I will take Pineda over that scumbag Schon any day of the week.

"Take him" for what?

Anything. Friend, co worker, band mate. I wouldn't do any fucking thing with Neal Schon. Beside Jonathan Friga Cain, he is the worst person in the world. Oh and Rush Limbaugh too.

I can see all three doin a daisy chain together,Rush would be the Ned Beatty

[Don]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=113406

Alright Perry enough of this shit. Stop trying to dog AP because you're jealous. Also stop leaving hateful comments on Arnel's youtube videos. It's very hurtful and just shows that you can't accept that Arnel is a better singer than you and is now being considered by many as "The True Voice". We know you have agents out there trying to sabotage this incarnation of Journey but it won't work. Journey is going to be even bigger this year and you can't stop it. Expect a trip back to the SuperBowl as the half time performer and multiple Grammy nods this upcoming year. Stop being a hater.

APATJBFTW!!!

[Jana]

What a title. Ditto everything Rip said.

Jana, would a "??" instead of the "!!" made any difference in the Title?

Yeah, I just didn't like the title. Arnel has mentioned his drug use in many interviews since he was hired. Especially when he was 26 and was so burned out and not realizing his dreams and drug use destroyed his voice and was told he would never sing again. Then we went back home for months and cleaned up and got his voice back. I love his resolve and find his life story interesting and love that he shares it. Peace.

By the way, welcome, Isla.

[stevew2]

While maybe the thread title could have been constructed better..who fricken cares. Like she said, not everyone lives and breaths Arnel and/or Journey. I had no idea about this, so I found the article interesting and inspiring. Just because something doesn't look all rosy on the outside regarding our idols, doesn't mean there is always a need to not admit it's there. If Arnel doesn't try to hide it and actually speaks out about it, not sure why anyone else would have a problem with it.

Because the technically accurate thread title didn't present it as a personal triumph against all odds.

Hey, man. No one is advocating being a perpetual cheerleader for anyone or especially hiding any of this stuff, but there are a lot of "technically accurate" things that can be said about all of us that take things out of perspective. The thread was titled such to get a certain kind of reaction, plain and simple.

While I agree the title looked out of context to a degree...and maybe if she had added something like 'hey, did you guys know about this?' or 'I had no idea' to the body of her post, but ultimately the response she got was not based on just the title..there were enough 'who cares', quit trying to bring him down' posts that clearly illustrated people's desire to bury the subject.

Do you mind if i squirt some shit on your avatar so I dont have to look at a bush doom?

Ha. Go right ahead. I only put it up when I saw Andrew have such a freaked out reaction to it when someone put up 2012.

i compare Andrew vs Bush to Tito vs Obama

[Michael Leigh]

While maybe the thread title could have been constructed better..who fricken cares. Like she said, not everyone lives and breaths Arnel and/or Journey. I had no idea about this, so I found the article interesting and inspiring. Just because something doesn't look all rosy on the outside regarding our idols, doesn't mean there is always a need to not admit it's there. If Arnel doesn't try to hide it and actually speaks out about it, not sure why anyone else would have a problem with it.

Just as an FYI, I am a "he", sir.
BTW~I like your avatar.As a former resident of Florida, I found he was a good governor.
IMO~he was a better leader in many ways, then his brother.

[Michael Leigh]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=113406

Alright Perry enough of this shit. Stop trying to dog AP because you're jealous. Also stop leaving hateful comments on Arnel's youtube videos. It's very hurtful and just shows that you can't accept that Arnel is a better singer than you and is now being considered by many as "The True Voice". We know you have agents out there trying to sabotage this incarnation of Journey but it won't work. Journey is going to be even bigger this year and you can't stop it. Expect a trip back to the SuperBowl as the half time performer and multiple Grammy nods this upcoming year. Stop being a hater.

APATJBFTW!!!

That's a good one!!

[Michael Leigh]

Easy up, Lil' Bukaroo.
Don't get your panties in a bunch.

How is this old news?
Some of us that come here, don't spend every waking moment here.

Some of us also don't eat,breath,sleep, and crap, Journey,and it might be new news to some, like myself.
I normally don't involve myself in the personal lives of bands and musicians,I prefer to enjoy their music.
I thought it was an interesting article,taking into consideration his "Cinderella Story" and squeaky clean image, and unlike "the Enquirer" he and his wife are OPENLY talking about his addiction and recovery, to an actual news outlet.

BTW, the headline on the site reads "JOURNEY Singer Says He Lost Nearly Everything To Drugs", not "JOURNEY Singer Says He Lost Nearly Everything to Butterflies and Lollipops".

Don't worry, I'm sure he's still your hero.

Hey, nothing personal, man. And I've actually been crapping Boulevard this week. It's a little lighter and doesn't clog up the plumbing as bad. Have a good week, bro.

No Harm Done, Sir!!
It's Super Bowl weekend!!
Enjoy yourself!!

[Onestepper]

While maybe the thread title could have been constructed better..who fricken cares. Like she said, not everyone lives and breaths Arnel and/or Journey. I had no idea about this, so I found the article interesting and inspiring. Just because something doesn't look all rosy on the outside regarding our idols, doesn't mean there is always a need to not admit it's there. If Arnel doesn't try to hide it and actually speaks out about it, not sure why anyone else would have a problem with it.

Just as an FYI, I am a "he", sir.
BTW~I like your avatar.As a former resident of Florida, I found he was a good governor.
IMO~he was a better leader in many ways, then his brother.

Ah. Sorry about that.

[Jana]

While maybe the thread title could have been constructed better..who fricken cares. Like she said, not everyone lives and breaths Arnel and/or Journey. I had no idea about this, so I found the article interesting and inspiring. Just because something doesn't look all rosy on the outside regarding our idols, doesn't mean there is always a need to not admit it's there. If Arnel doesn't try to hide it and actually speaks out about it, not sure why anyone else would have a problem with it.

Just as an FYI, I am a "he", sir.
BTW~I like your avatar.As a former resident of Florida, I found he was a good governor.
IMO~he was a better leader in many ways, then his brother.

Ah. Sorry about that.

He was an excellent governor. (And I'm a democrat. Voted for him twice.) George W. could never compare or be in the same league as his father or Jeb.

[Rip Rokken]

The thread was titled such to get a certain kind of reaction, plain and simple.

Hey Rip, nice seeing you, but a title is supposed to draw you in and give you a rise, isn't it?

Nice seeing you, too. Why don't we start some trouble today? LOL...

My Lord no! Have some fucking respect for this site's owner

Ok, let's do it.

Shoot, I'll have to pass... I have just enough time to grab the new Rick Springfield disc before heading back to work. Heard just yesterday it was excellent. Hey, any idea who is playing the halftime show Sunday?

[Don]

The thread was titled such to get a certain kind of reaction, plain and simple.

Hey Rip, nice seeing you, but a title is supposed to draw you in and give you a rise, isn't it?

Nice seeing you, too. Why don't we start some trouble today? LOL...

My Lord no! Have some fucking respect for this site's owner

Ok, let's do it.

Shoot, I'll have to pass... I have just enough time to grab the new Rick Springfield disc before heading back to work. Heard just yesterday it was excellent. Hey, any idea who is playing the halftime show Sunday?

No, but I do know T-Pain is part of the Pre-Game show. I hope he can play some of his hits, "Fucked Up", "Chopped & Skrewed", and the unforgettable "I'm N Luv (Wit A Stripper)".

Dude, I am so stoked, can't fucking wait!

[Carla777]

about the topic: well yes i knew that about arnel story too, for me that is one thing more to admire because he recognizes all his past...so resilience and defeat adversity for me seem more important than only notice the drugs use part, anyway for what i read arnel use this issue to try to tell the young generation to stay away from drugs

[stevew2]

about the topic: well yes i knew that about arnel story too, for me that is one thing more to admire because he recognizes all his past...so resilience and defeat adversity for me seem more important than only notice the drugs use part, anyway for what i read arnel use this issue to try to tell the young generation to stay away from drugs

Thats a good thing like you, you doll you

[NealIsGod]

about the topic: well yes i knew that about arnel story too, for me that is one thing more to admire because he recognizes all his past...so resilience and defeat adversity for me seem more important than only notice the drugs use part, anyway for what i read arnel use this issue to try to tell the young generation to stay away from drugs

Thats a good thing like you, you doll you

Haven't you learned anything from that other thread today?

[Don]

about the topic: well yes i knew that about arnel story too, for me that is one thing more to admire because he recognizes all his past...so resilience and defeat adversity for me seem more important than only notice the drugs use part, anyway for what i read arnel use this issue to try to tell the young generation to stay away from drugs

Thats a good thing like you, you doll you

Váyase Stevie,váyase.

[Rockindeano]

Shoot, I'll have to pass... I have just enough time to grab the new Rick Springfield disc before heading back to work.

Rick Springfield? Who's next on your buy list, Jack Wagner? Retard Rip, retarded.

Hey, any idea who is playing the halftime show Sunday?

I heard some hack, his wife and 8 of their Jersey friends. Thinking of doing a special Sunday service instead. You?

[Rick]

This thread should be deleted.

Anyone that knows anything about this forum would know that THIS forum would know THAT. Or at least those of us that eat, breathe and sleep Journey.

[Melissa]

This thread should be deleted.

Anyone that knows anything about this forum would know that THIS forum would know THAT. Or at least those of us that eat, breathe and sleep Journey.

Agreed. And I don't see how anyone saying so like Rip did is "embarassing" themselves, but then again I guess that's up to the "vets" ( ) to decide.

[Rick]

This thread should be deleted.

Anyone that knows anything about this forum would know that THIS forum would know THAT. Or at least those of us that eat, breathe and sleep Journey.

Agreed. And I don't see how anyone saying so like Rip did is "embarassing" themselves, but then again I guess that's up to the "vets" ( ) to decide.

Yep, nice choreography on this thread.

[Melissa]

This thread should be deleted.

Anyone that knows anything about this forum would know that THIS forum would know THAT. Or at least those of us that eat, breathe and sleep Journey.

Agreed. And I don't see how anyone saying so like Rip did is "embarassing" themselves, but then again I guess that's up to the "vets" ( ) to decide.

Yep, nice choreography on this thread.

Hey are we "vets" Rick, since it's been 2 years?

Totally kidding and I really don't give a crap, just thought that was funny

[Voyager]

Who cares... almost every actor or artist is a fucking addict... old news...

Let's start a thread, "Meat Loaf Was a Food Addict!" or "Ann Wilson is Addicted to Bratwurst!"

[Don]

Most of us have toked at some time in our life. Hell, if it helps keep Alzheimer's at bay, I might have to start up again.

[Voyager]

Most of us have toked at some time in our life. Hell, if it helps keep Alzheimer's at bay, I might have to start up again.

Hell if the economy gets any worse, some of us may have to start dealing again.

[conversationpc]

Most of us have toked at some time in our life. Hell, if it helps keep Alzheimer's at bay, I might have to start up again.

Hell if the economy gets any worse, some of us may have to start dealing again.

You can keep dealing what's in that avatar.

[Melissa]

Who cares... almost every actor or artist is a fucking addict... old news...

Let's start a thread, "Meat Loaf Was a Food Addict!" or "Ann Wilson is Addicted to Bratwurst!"

[Rick]

This thread should be deleted.

Anyone that knows anything about this forum would know that THIS forum would know THAT. Or at least those of us that eat, breathe and sleep Journey.

Agreed. And I don't see how anyone saying so like Rip did is "embarassing" themselves, but then again I guess that's up to the "vets" ( ) to decide.

Yep, nice choreography on this thread.

Hey are we "vets" Rick, since it's been 2 years?

Totally kidding and I really don't give a crap, just thought that was funny

Yeah, we're junior to quite a few. But we know a LOT!

[donnaplease]

This thread should be deleted.

Anyone that knows anything about this forum would know that THIS forum would know THAT. Or at least those of us that eat, breathe and sleep Journey.

Bullshit, Rick. Why delete the thread? Because Arnel's halo doesn't glow irridescent purple (unlike Neal's famous shirt) in this light? It's just a topic for discussion. I didn't know that Arnel had a history of drug use. Now knowing it, I have no more or no less respect for him because of it. Lots of people (especially in the music biz) have battled that demon and come out on the other side, and likewise he's no messiah simply for having experienced it.

There's a whole lot about other members of Journey, past & present, that I've learned by reading threads just like this. Shit, if not for MR, I would have never learned of SA's vocal problem and discovered JSS, which is what led me to meet lots of great folks here!

If Arnel is comfortable enough talking about it publicly, why can't we?

[Don]

No big deal here. I've toked, Neal apparently likes to drink, Deen does..whatever he does and The Voice played with blow, (allegedly). All part of life, nothig to be ashamed of. We all have or had vices that weren't healthy. Better that this was out in the open rather than be dug up by some slimeball who would try to benefit from the knowledge if was a secret.

[Ftloperry]

Hey, any idea who is playing the halftime show Sunday?

Springsteen.