Foreigner/Night Ranger/Journey tour to hit US in July

[hoagiepete]

Sure. Alot of replacement parts. Like to have the originals, but I'd also like to be 25, 30 pounds lighter and still be able to run up and down a basketball court all day and dunk behind my head.

Since I know none of the above will ever happen, I'm going to go out and enjoy the hell out this tour. Having seen Foreigner recently, I know this will be an entertaining line up.

Party on.

[marco17]

With some speculation of Europe, Scorpions, and Journey, this is pretty weak, but to each his/her own. That said I like Foreigner with Kelly, he does a nice job.

[Behshad]

With some speculation of Europe, Scorpions, and Journey, this is pretty weak, but to each his/her own. That said I like Foreigner with Kelly, he does a nice job.

+1

[Melissa]

I was hoping for a different lineup I had heard was a possibility too, that would have been really awesome IMO, but oh well Still plan to have fun!

[Behshad]

I was hoping for a different lineup I had heard was a possibility too, that would have been really awesome IMO, but oh well Still plan to have fun!

Soul SirkUS / W.E.T / Journey ?? I told you that was rumors

[Melissa]

I was hoping for a different lineup I had heard was a possibility too, that would have been really awesome IMO, but oh well Still plan to have fun!

Soul SirkUS / W.E.T / Journey ?? I told you that was rumors

[Eric]

With some speculation of Europe, Scorpions, and Journey, this is pretty weak, but to each his/her own. That said I like Foreigner with Kelly, he does a nice job.

I see that point of view. And I don't think this will do as well as Journey-Heart-CheapTrick. But for me, I get probably, what, 5 hours of songs I like.

[Saint John]

With some speculation of Europe, Scorpions, and Journey, this is pretty weak, but to each his/her own. That said I like Foreigner with Kelly, he does a nice job.

I see that point of view. And I don't think this will do as well as Journey-Heart-CheapTrick. But for me, I get probably, what, 5 hours of songs I like.

You folks have to understand something. You need to separate the talent from the artist's ability to draw. Heart and Cheap Trick are incredible bands live, but they do not draw ... anyone. Both frequently play fests where the concerts are free with paid admission. Journey now has Foreigner ... a bona fide #2 act that will draw more fans than Heart and Cheap Trick combined. While I was really hoping for Europe and the Scorpions, this bill is going to draw and draw very well. I'd look for much of the same as the initial leg of the Revelation tour ... lots of sellouts.

[Don]

If Foreigner continues to close their sets with that 8 minute medley of Jukebox Hero/Whole Lotta Love, it should not only amp the crowd up a few notches before Journey takes the stage but inspire Neal and the boys to bring their A Game every night.

Just like Arnel and more so the last few years, Kelly has definitely proven to be a road warrior.


Last week in Mumbia, India;
Check out Kelly at the one minute mark, Dude is a great Frontman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj2Y1Tqy ... e=youtu.be

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With some speculation of Europe, Scorpions, and Journey, this is pretty weak, but to each his/her own. That said I like Foreigner with Kelly, he does a nice job.

I see that point of view. And I don't think this will do as well as Journey-Heart-CheapTrick. But for me, I get probably, what, 5 hours of songs I like.

You folks have to understand something. You need to separate the talent from the artist's ability to draw. Heart and Cheap Trick are incredible bands live, but they do not draw ... anyone. Both frequently play fests where the concerts are free with paid admission. Journey now has Foreigner ... a bona fide #2 act that will draw more fans than Heart and Cheap Trick combined. While I was really hoping for Europe and the Scorpions, this bill is going to draw and draw very well. I'd look for much of the same as the initial leg of the Revelation tour ... lots of sellouts.

While Foreigner is definitely a bigger draw than Cheap Trick, they seem to play the same venues as Heart does. I know Heart with a no name local opener played to a similar, if not bigger crowd that a double bill of Foreigner and Eddie Money and the Heart show was more expensive (and unfortunately, shorter).

Not too enthused about this line up, since I saw Night Ranger and Journey play together two summers ago and while I enjoyed the show, I am not sure having Foreigner added will help, because it means less stage time for the other two bands.

[kgdjpubs]

With some speculation of Europe, Scorpions, and Journey, this is pretty weak, but to each his/her own. That said I like Foreigner with Kelly, he does a nice job.

I see that point of view. And I don't think this will do as well as Journey-Heart-CheapTrick. But for me, I get probably, what, 5 hours of songs I like.

You folks have to understand something. You need to separate the talent from the artist's ability to draw. Heart and Cheap Trick are incredible bands live, but they do not draw ... anyone. Both frequently play fests where the concerts are free with paid admission. Journey now has Foreigner ... a bona fide #2 act that will draw more fans than Heart and Cheap Trick combined. While I was really hoping for Europe and the Scorpions, this bill is going to draw and draw very well. I'd look for much of the same as the initial leg of the Revelation tour ... lots of sellouts.

I'd say Heart and Foreigner are roughly the same as far as numbers of tickets sold is concerned, with maybe a slight edge to Heart. Heart has played here twice recently as headliner to the 5000-8000 seat venues. The only time Foreigner has headlined anywhere near here, they were about the same--maybe a bit less. At least in this area of the country, Foreigner rarely plays a headlining show however. Part of it may have to do with Ann/Nancy Wilson vs. Kelly Hansen. Cheap Trick and Night Ranger are both on the small crowd size a la 1500-2000 people.

Either way, the combo should be very good for ticket sales, just because of the number of hits with all three bands. The downside is that with the number of bands and short sets, it's unlikely that you will get much more than your hits. Fine for the average concert-goer, bad for the fan. I've always been of the belief that you should get 2hrs from the headliner, and it's almost impossible to do that with 3 bands on the bill. Expect 30-45 minutes from NR, 1hr from Foreigner, and 90 minutes from Journey.

[S2M]

I would expect to hear the hits from the original singer. Not the new guy. They have 2 albums of stuff they can cull a set from, and sprinkle in SP material....THAT I would go see.

[kgdjpubs]

I would expect to hear the hits from the original singer. Not the new guy. They have 2 albums of stuff they can cull a set from, and sprinkle in SP material....THAT I would go see.

I'd love to see that also. The problem is they lose their audience if they do that, and will be on Survivor level for drawing crowds if they try that for very long.

I still think Journey should do what some other bands have done and try a hardcore fan show at a smaller theatre. The UK rock band Thunder used to do a Christmas show where the majority of the hits were thrown out the window and they mainly played the rare material and some choice covers. Sometimes it was acoustic, sometimes electric, sometimes a combo of both. It's a way to pacify the diehards who want something other than the dirty dozen, while not losing the casual fan that allows you to play bigger venues.

[Don]

I would expect to hear the hits from the original singer. Not the new guy. They have 2 albums of stuff they can cull a set from, and sprinkle in SP material....THAT I would go see.

I'd love to see that also. The problem is they lose their audience if they do that, and will be on Survivor level for drawing crowds if they try that for very long.

I still think Journey should do what some other bands have done and try a hardcore fan show at a smaller theatre. The UK rock band Thunder used to do a Christmas show where the majority of the hits were thrown out the window and they mainly played the rare material and some choice covers. Sometimes it was acoustic, sometimes electric, sometimes a combo of both. It's a way to pacify the diehards who want something other than the dirty dozen, while not losing the casual fan that allows you to play bigger venues.

I think, as Cain alluded to that this will be three bands running through the hits. I wonder what the time split will be like.

[Saint John]

I wonder what the time split will be like.

Probably the same as the CT, Heart, Journey bill ... 45 minutes, an hour and an hour and a half.

[kgdjpubs]

I wonder what the time split will be like.

Probably the same as the CT, Heart, Journey bill ... 45 minutes, an hour and an hour and a half.

gee this sounds familiar... nice to know we agree!

Expect 30-45 minutes from NR, 1hr from Foreigner, and 90 minutes from Journey.

[S2M]

I think Neal needs to get over the idea that Journey must headline, or not play....seriously.

And the fact that they need TWO bands to help with the gate, is telling in itself....

[Don]

I think Neal needs to get over the idea that Journey must headline, or not play....seriously.

And the fact that they need TWO bands to help with the gate, is telling in itself....

This year, I don't think those decisions are entirely Neal's. Foreigner and Journey are co-headlining at some of the gigs in Europe. I think that's management's call concerning who is packaged and in what order they play.

As we heard in the early interviews, Neal seemed very surprised (and a tad disappointed?) that they were touring with Styx and Foreigner in the UK, and not on their own.

[Michigan Girl]

I think Neal needs to get over the idea that Journey must headline, or not play....seriously.

And the fact that they need TWO bands to help with the gate, is telling in itself....

I'm glad ...that's the draw for many people who want something different ...change!!

[S2M]

I think Neal needs to get over the idea that Journey must headline, or not play....seriously.

And the fact that they need TWO bands to help with the gate, is telling in itself....

I'm glad ...that's the draw for many people who want something different ...change!!

And that's why we only hear the Dirty Dozen +2....

[Saint John]

I think Neal needs to get over the idea that Journey must headline, or not play....seriously.

And the fact that they need TWO bands to help with the gate, is telling in itself....

I'm glad ...that's the draw for many people who want something different ...change!!

And that's why we only hear the Dirty Dozen +2....

You have to realize that Journey comes around to the general concert crowd about once every year or two. Because of that, they're always going to play the hits ... and they absolutely should. The question becomes the mix of new songs and on the Revelation tour they never played fewer than 3 and usually 4. I think that's about all you could ask for, short of them losing fans. They've got it right.

[S2M]

Ok...I'll buy that. But that begs the question....Why release new music at all? It has been shown that bands can tour for years without a new release. It has also been said that bands make their money with touring. The money made from albums is neglegible, no?

And you just admitted that they would lose fans if they played more newer songs. Again, so why release a new album then? That, to me, screams that fans couldn't care less about the new songs. But then you could say that there are two distinct camps of fans(other than the Sp/Jss/Arnel fractions): the ones that buy the albums, and the ones that make the concert rounds. They don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive, but I think they are.

Why record songs that will never be played in concert?

[Don]

Ok...I'll buy that. But that begs the question....Why release new music at all? It has been shown that bands can tour for years without a new release. It has also been said that bands make their money with touring. The money made from albums is neglegible, no?

And you just admitted that they would lose fans if they played more newer songs. Again, so why release a new album then? That, to me, screams that fans couldn't care less about the new songs. But then you could say that there are two distinct camps of fans(other than the Sp/Jss/Arnel fractions): the ones that buy the albums, and the ones that make the concert rounds. They don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive, but I think they are.

The same reason that Neal and Jon release solo album album after solo album and yet never perform the songs live. Just another way of finding self gratification in their craft, I would guess.

[Saint John]

Ok...I'll buy that. But that begs the question....Why release new music at all? It has been shown that bands can tour for years without a new release. It has also been said that bands make their money with touring. The money made from albums is neglegible, no?

And you just admitted that they would lose fans if they played more newer songs. Again, so why release a new album then? That, to me, screams that fans couldn't care less about the new songs. But then you could say that there are two distinct camps of fans(other than the Sp/Jss/Arnel fractions): the ones that buy the albums, and the ones that make the concert rounds. They don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive, but I think they are.

Why record songs that will never be played in concert?

I give Journey credit for staying creatively hungry. More so on this album than the others, but it's new music nonetheless. Your points are valid, Sean ... very valid. But I think the best answer I could give is that new music allows them to play new songs, even if it's only 3 or 4. It introduces new fans to the old music and vice versa. They're doing what they can and I respect that for the first time in a long time. Additionally, I think you may have noticed that they're REALLY playing as much overseas as possible and trying to open those markets. I think Neal has a vision of playing up to half of the new album (or more) at some point over there. The Dirty Dozen isn't as much a part of their lives as here and I see the possibility of new music being about twice what it is here. Hey, one can dream, right?

[Eric]

Ok...I'll buy that. But that begs the question....Why release new music at all? It has been shown that bands can tour for years without a new release. It has also been said that bands make their money with touring. The money made from albums is neglegible, no?

And you just admitted that they would lose fans if they played more newer songs. Again, so why release a new album then? That, to me, screams that fans couldn't care less about the new songs. But then you could say that there are two distinct camps of fans(other than the Sp/Jss/Arnel fractions): the ones that buy the albums, and the ones that make the concert rounds. They don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive, but I think they are.

Why record songs that will never be played in concert?

Because they are an active artist and they'll expose their creation to the million or so folks who buy the album.

[Don]

I think the big winner here is Foreigner. They already have a great following overseas from continuous touring over there. Getting them back in bigger venues stateside is going to be a nice reawakening for them.

The biggest loser? Styx. They should have lobbied for that third slot, especially with a new (sort of) release coming out.

[S2M]

Just as an example, Rush doesn't need complimentary bands,they tour by themselves. Which is why I say that Rush is more popular than Journey. That being said....this is an example of their setlist during 07's Snakes & Arrows Tour

New songs in bold, they played NINE new songs in their set. basically the ENTIRE album.

Video Intro
Limelight
Digital Man
Entre Nous
Mission
Freewill
The Main Monkey Business
The Larger Bowl
Secret Touch
Circumstances
Between the Wheels
Dreamline

DISC 2
Video Intro
Far Cry
Workin Them Angels
Armor and Sword
Spindrift
The Way the Wind Blows
Subdivisions
Natural Science
Witch Hunt
Malignant Narcissism
Drum Solo
Hope

DISC 3
Summertime Blues
The Spirit of Radio
Tom Sawyer
One Little Victory
A Passage to Bangkok
YYZ
Video Outro


I'm willing to bet if Journey would tour ALONE, with a 3 hour set...they could do the same thing.

[Deb]

And Ive seen Foreigner several times the last couple years. They are good. I just was hoping for something more original than the same 5 bands swapping partners. If you haven't seen these bands, it's because you aren't buying tickets and getting out there.

If you want more original, there will be a certain other band touring the US later this year too, that you might want to catch.

That's not too bad of a lineup, but not enough for me to put travel $$s down on.

[Saint John]

I'm willing to bet if Journey would tour ALONE, with a 3 hour set...they could do the same thing.

I agree, man. But I don't think it'll ever happen. Journey wants packed sheds ... 20,000+, and though they could probably do that alone, they'd never get the near the $125 per ticket that a fan will pay for 3 bands. It's just better this way. They get the maximum amount of fans, but only get to play the 3 or 4 new songs that fans will tolerate without bitching "I wanna hear something I know!!!!" And less new songs, if you pick the right ones, will allow fans to leave thinking "Hey, their new songs were pretty good!"

[Eric]

I'm willing to bet if Journey would tour ALONE, with a 3 hour set...they could do the same thing.

They have. They toured a lot of dates alone in 2009 and played upwards of 5-6 new songs per date. They played more than that in 2005 when they toured alone. They can't draw what Rush does on a consistent basis alone though. I'd like to see them get back to that, though.