15 Song Set List

[tater1977]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

[Argus]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

That would qualify as micro-management Honestly, I think that Deen singing was always a huge plus on the tours. But, who am I to say, eh? lol

[The_Noble_Cause]

What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead?

Having someone besides the lead vocalist step up to the mic once or twice does not make or break a band. This is beyond stupid.

[Rick]

I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

In one of the more recent interviews, Deen explained that even though he doesn't mind singing a song or two, he's content playing drums. He also hinted that the band or management thought it didn't make sense to fans to have someone behind a drum kit singing although I'm a bit puzzled at this since I've seemingly always read positive feedback on his performances and honestly am in awe with his voice combined with playing.

What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead?

Night Ranger. Keagy sings lead on several tracks.

[Majestic]

I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

In one of the more recent interviews, Deen explained that even though he doesn't mind singing a song or two, he's content playing drums. He also hinted that the band or management thought it didn't make sense to fans to have someone behind a drum kit singing although I'm a bit puzzled at this since I've seemingly always read positive feedback on his performances and honestly am in awe with his voice combined with playing.

What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead?

Night Ranger. Keagy sings lead on several tracks.

Also the Eagles with Don Henley, and Genesis with Phil Collins. Didn't Steve Perry start in music as a drummer too?

[RumTumJM]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

Does this mean that it is unlikely that we will EVER hear Deen sing lead vocals again?

[G.I.Jim]

I'd drop "Never Walk Away" (I can't stand that song!),

Care to explain ?!

Not for the reason you're thinking of. I honestly can't stand it. I think it's the weakest song off of the album. "What I Needed" is the best one on there, but I'd pick ANY of the songs on that album before I'd pick NWA.

[onmyjrny]

One of the coolest Encores I can think of would be one that would be a total shock. After the fans holler for more for about 3 minutes,
have Smitty get up on the kit and as IBAWY starts up, Steve Perry walks out on stage. Fans start cheering, the band
stops playing, while the fans blow the roof off the place, then the song resumes. A one off deal at a large venue and it would be crazy.

Awesome thought, except for the song choice. Smitty and ROR...not happening. I would definitely be down with it on MOL...or how about Gregg joining in and jamming to JTSW?

One can dream!

[kmjrr]

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

Someone needs to tell the band and/or management that what Argus said is exactly the way it is: People wonder who is singing and are amazed when they realize it's the drummer. We know because we have seen that fan reaction firsthand.

Ray

[Gideon]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

That is the single dumbest reason for anything ever.

[steveo777]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

That is the single dumbest reason for anything ever.

C'mon, we know band management always makes the best decisions.

[Saint John]

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

Someone needs to tell the band and/or management that what Argus said is exactly the way it is: People wonder who is singing and are amazed when they realize it's the drummer. We know because we have seen that fan reaction firsthand.

Ray

I've seen Journey close to 30 times with Augeri, 3 times with Soto and 10 times with Arnel and your assertion is pretty much bullshit. Deen, for whatever reason(s), usually gets the "golf clap." I've never heard a crowd go ape shit over his vocals ... probably because they're usually very difficult to hear! Or, to be fair, because he sings the lesser known hits. Deen has a great voice, but it's not front man material because he can't project. My guess is that Journey's decision to can most of the backing vocals this tour has Deen pulling plenty of weight in the backing department and it would probably kill his voice to sing so many backing vocals and lead. Management has this one right ... even if I do miss hearing After The Fall and Mother Father.

[kmjrr]

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

Someone needs to tell the band and/or management that what Argus said is exactly the way it is: People wonder who is singing and are amazed when they realize it's the drummer. We know because we have seen that fan reaction firsthand.

Ray

I've seen Journey close to 30 times with Augeri, 3 times with Soto and 10 times with Arnel and your assertion is pretty much bullshit. Deen, for whatever reason(s), usually gets the "golf clap." I've never heard a crowd go ape shit over his vocals ... probably because they're usually very difficult to hear! Or, to be fair, because he sings the lesser known hits. Deen has a great voice, but it's not front man material because he can't project. My guess is that Journey's decision to can most of the backing vocals this tour has Deen pulling plenty of weight in the backing department and it would probably kill his voice to sing so many backing vocals and lead. Management has this one right ... even if I do miss hearing After The Fall and Mother Father.

I've seen them 16 times and have heard the comments many times. Going ape shit, no, not for the deep cuts, but, for example, when he was singing Faithfully and Open Arms when Soto was fronting the band and they had the camera on his drum kit and he showed a photo of his kid, yeah, it was more than a golf clap.

[SF-Dano]

I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

In one of the more recent interviews, Deen explained that even though he doesn't mind singing a song or two, he's content playing drums. He also hinted that the band or management thought it didn't make sense to fans to have someone behind a drum kit singing although I'm a bit puzzled at this since I've seemingly always read positive feedback on his performances and honestly am in awe with his voice combined with playing.

What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead?

Night Ranger. Keagy sings lead on several tracks.

Also the Eagles with Don Henley, and Genesis with Phil Collins. Didn't Steve Perry start in music as a drummer too?

Don't forget these guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUzs5dlLrm0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts

[scarab]

Deen singing a few songs was worth the price of admission.
Journey needs new management

[Deb]

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

Dang, there goes 'Still They Ride' appearing in a setlist anytime soon. I'm out. 'Tis ok, I've got DSB.

[zigzag]

I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

In one of the more recent interviews, Deen explained that even though he doesn't mind singing a song or two, he's content playing drums. He also hinted that the band or management thought it didn't make sense to fans to have someone behind a drum kit singing although I'm a bit puzzled at this since I've seemingly always read positive feedback on his performances and honestly am in awe with his voice combined with playing.

What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead?

Night Ranger. Keagy sings lead on several tracks.

Also the Eagles with Don Henley, and Genesis with Phil Collins. Didn't Steve Perry start in music as a drummer too?

Don't forget these guys

and Levon Helm -The Band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUzs5dlLrm0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts

[Argus]

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

Someone needs to tell the band and/or management that what Argus said is exactly the way it is: People wonder who is singing and are amazed when they realize it's the drummer. We know because we have seen that fan reaction firsthand.

Ray

I've seen Journey close to 30 times with Augeri, 3 times with Soto and 10 times with Arnel and your assertion is pretty much bullshit. Deen, for whatever reason(s), usually gets the "golf clap." I've never heard a crowd go ape shit over his vocals ... probably because they're usually very difficult to hear! Or, to be fair, because he sings the lesser known hits. Deen has a great voice, but it's not front man material because he can't project. My guess is that Journey's decision to can most of the backing vocals this tour has Deen pulling plenty of weight in the backing department and it would probably kill his voice to sing so many backing vocals and lead. Management has this one right ... even if I do miss hearing After The Fall and Mother Father.

SJ you are speaking for yourself, right? Golf Clap? what are you smoking?

[Saint John]

SJ you are speaking for yourself, right? Golf Clap? what are you smoking?

I speak from experience. These are pretty representative of the crowd's reaction after Deen sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5mxgSCfY9M&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dzl0wShYo4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1O9w8at ... 982A5CF98A

[Don]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

They sure didn't mind it during the last six months of Augeri's career with Journey.
The identity problem has nothing to do with Deen, it's having a singer who sounds a lot like Steve Perry. Reading the tweets this tour, there are still people saying who hell is the Asian guy?

[Argus]

SJ you are speaking for yourself, right? Golf Clap? what are you smoking?

I speak from experience. These are pretty representative of the crowd's reaction after Deen sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5mxgSCfY9M&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dzl0wShYo4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1O9w8at ... 982A5CF98A

So you didn't read the reviews of those cuts did you? SJ homework dude, homework.

[Saint John]

SJ you are speaking for yourself, right? Golf Clap? what are you smoking?

I speak from experience. These are pretty representative of the crowd's reaction after Deen sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5mxgSCfY9M&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dzl0wShYo4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1O9w8at ... 982A5CF98A

So you didn't read the reviews of those cuts did you? SJ homework dude, homework.

Reviews can be written by one person with 642 screen names. The crowd clips from the posted links and virtually every performance I've witnessed by Deen are more than enough proof. Deen has a great voice, but he's, at times, very difficult to hear. He's doing what he should be doing on a tour that has live backing vocals. And that's singing backup. So, in short, I don't need to do any "homework."

[Argus]

SJ you are speaking for yourself, right? Golf Clap? what are you smoking?

I speak from experience. These are pretty representative of the crowd's reaction after Deen sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5mxgSCfY9M&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dzl0wShYo4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1O9w8at ... 982A5CF98A

So you didn't read the reviews of those cuts did you? SJ homework dude, homework.

Reviews can be written by one person with 642 screen names. The crowd clips from the posted links and virtually every performance I've witnessed by Deen are more than enough proof. Deen has a great voice, but he's, at times, very difficult to hear. He's doing what he should be doing on a tour that has live backing vocals. And that's singing backup. So, in short, I don't need to do any "homework."

/me takes a stick, pokes SJ then runs away laughing

[Saint John]

SJ you are speaking for yourself, right? Golf Clap? what are you smoking?

I speak from experience. These are pretty representative of the crowd's reaction after Deen sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5mxgSCfY9M&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dzl0wShYo4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1O9w8at ... 982A5CF98A

So you didn't read the reviews of those cuts did you? SJ homework dude, homework.

Reviews can be written by one person with 642 screen names. The crowd clips from the posted links and virtually every performance I've witnessed by Deen are more than enough proof. Deen has a great voice, but he's, at times, very difficult to hear. He's doing what he should be doing on a tour that has live backing vocals. And that's singing backup. So, in short, I don't need to do any "homework."

/me takes a stick, pokes SJ then runs away laughing

[ebake02]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

I can see Deen saying the same thing.

[steveo777]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

I can see Deen saying the same thing.

I think fans hear Deen and think Perry is going to step out from behind the curtain.

[Intell]

There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?

That would qualify as micro-management Honestly, I think that Deen singing was always a huge plus on the tours. But, who am I to say, eh? lol

Agree that Deen singing actually showed how SOLID and versatile the band was. It was so cool to watch the faces of the casual concert-goers with the "wow, that guy sure can sing!!!" look on their faces. Shows that the band has incredible talent all around! I SURE hope Deen is singing by the time they make their way to Tampa or West Palm Beach! Just one would be great! Also gives Arnel a needed break with this CRAZY catalog of vocal cord killer songs.

[Archetype]

They just don't want Deen upstaging Arnel...

[Jeremey]

"Confusing for the fans?" LOL. Sorry, that's corporate speak for covering up some other reason. People love it when Deen sings. I've talked to people after shows from the Augeri era, Jeff's tenure, and during tours with Arnel, and people have raved about Deen and his vocals when he's sang. Either he's not up to it, or someone (*cough, cough*) felt like Arnel should be singing all the songs & got management to toe the line on that one.

[Rick]

They just don't want Deen upstaging Arnel...

Interesting thought.