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Postby Marabelle » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:59 am

Oh My Goodness! Let me tell you; the build up is gonna be a lot better than the actual event!
Not to take anything away from Andrew's great interview but I think it's much to do about not too much! What else can be said that hasn't already been said what else can be speculated about that hasn't already been speculated about. I'm already bored! If HH can disclose favorite songs, best venues, Neal's favorite song he likes playing on with or without Journey or is that blond guy is actually funny off stage most of the time when not around fans or if Steve Smith ever gets moody then maybe that's something to talk about...or when Espee was congested before a gig what did he use to get relief. Otherwise the interview will be re-gurgiated phelgm.
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Postby tammy » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:11 am

Sarah wrote:
AlienC wrote: As a person, I found him to be as warm and genuine as any of the others at the time, and perhaps a bit more self aware than some give credit for.

I always got the impression that SP knows exactly what he's doing. All signs indicate that's he's a pretty smart guy.

Except during that drunken ROR interview. "allthelawyersinjapn... EAT SUSHI"


I love THAT interview. :lol:
It would be nice if HH talked about the start & the history of the band without the bitterness & ugliness...I don't get it - why? It's not like he's living in the poorhouse - SP was classy enough to thank him at the WOF & HH still can't get over "it"?! :?
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Postby Saint John » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:40 am

tammy wrote:
Sarah wrote:
AlienC wrote: As a person, I found him to be as warm and genuine as any of the others at the time, and perhaps a bit more self aware than some give credit for.

I always got the impression that SP knows exactly what he's doing. All signs indicate that's he's a pretty smart guy.

Except during that drunken ROR interview. "allthelawyersinjapn... EAT SUSHI"


I love THAT interview. :lol:
It would be nice if HH talked about the start & the history of the band without the bitterness & ugliness...I don't get it - why? It's not like he's living in the poorhouse - SP was classy enough to thank him at the WOF & HH still can't get over "it"?! :?


I think a lot of the "bitterness and ugliness" you guys refer to is what others consider FACTS. Sure, Herbie is colorful and a great story teller, but I've yet to see anyone refute anything he has said. Sounds to me like the guy is telling the truth in an animated way. Moreover, thanking someone whose band you strong-armed away and fired is hardly "classly." It was a public bullshit PR move that I found condescending and borderline barf inducing. I still contend that Perry could never sit at a roundtable with these guys and air it all it out. He simply can't face them after what he's done and knows it. Which is why every time an interview comes up with the only guy he wasn't able to gag shut, we have to put up with the nauseating cackling and paranoia of Loondom over a guy that just wants to tell the truth...albeit in a "shock jock" manner.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:24 am

Saint John wrote: Moreover, thanking someone whose band you strong-armed away and fired is hardly "classly." It was a public bullshit PR move that I found condescending and borderline barf inducing.



What was he meant to do? Not thank him? If he hadn't acknowledged Herbert you can be sure we'd all be hearing about Perry's lack of gratitude...how he forgot the guy who made him a star...how he'd still be looking after turkeys at his mum's farm if it wasn't for Herbie....etc...etc...

And what PR benefit was there? Perry obviously wanted recognition - and rightly so - but other than that very few journalists gave a shit about what he thought about the guy who used to manage the band....and Perry would have known that.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:44 am

Matthew wrote:
Saint John wrote: Moreover, thanking someone whose band you strong-armed away and fired is hardly "classly." It was a public bullshit PR move that I found condescending and borderline barf inducing.



What was he meant to do? Not thank him? If he hadn't acknowledged Herbert you can be sure we'd all be hearing about Perry's lack of gratitude...how he forgot the guy who made him a star...how he'd still be looking after turkeys at his mum's farm if it wasn't for Herbie....etc...etc...

And what PR benefit was there? Perry obviously wanted recognition - and rightly so - but other than that very few journalists gave a shit about what he thought about the guy who used to manage the band....and Perry would have known that.


Fair points, Matthew. I still maintain that those words were not genuine, but rather a way to try and maintain that pristine image for the public in the event Herbert ever sounds off like he's about to in the upcoming interview. Again, Perry is always a few steps ahead of everyone. The man is not dumb.
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Postby SteveForever » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:46 am

Saint John wrote: Again, Perry is always a few steps ahead of everyone. The man is not dumb.


No, but you are... :lol:
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Postby Matthew » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:01 am

Saint John wrote:that pristine image for the public


You might be right, Saint John. But Perry was been consistently gracious about former colleagues since he left the band. And in return he's had nothing but shit from the others. This might explain why his image is pristine whereas the others seem like a bunch of sad sacks.

Is Perry just being manipulative? Maybe. He's certainly played his fair share of games in the past. But it might just be that it's easy to be classy when you know the others would still be driving around in a transit van from one empty gig to another if he hadn't joined the band. With security comes generosity I guess....


in the event Herbert ever sounds off like he's about to in the upcoming interview. Again, Perry is always a few steps ahead of everyone. The man is not dumb.


What Herbie says or doesn't say makes absolutely zero difference to Perry's reputation. Even that last interview - which was supposedly so explosive - was just for an underground internet magazine and only a miniscule band of die-hards could be bothered to read it.

So if Herbie does rehash all his resentments all over again and crack the same old gags it might be because he has a bigger platform this time on MR.com. No-one out there in the real world will care though and Perry's royalty cheques will still roll in regardless and good on him for that.
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Postby Monker » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:24 am

Lora wrote:So, have a ball reading the interview. Have a great time tearing people apart that you don't know. Come up with new and creative names to call Steve Perry. See how many people you can hurt in the process. Knock yourselves out.


Thank you. I'm glad I finaly have your permssion. Geesh, took you long enough!

Who cares anyway? Journey has not only jumped the shark, they were eaten by it, pooped out, and fed the algea. Nothing Herbie can say can help or hurt Perry or Journey. I find it funny people are even worried about it.

What new bits is he going to throw in about Perry? He found a Cheeto that looks like Perry's nose and he is going to auction it off on Ebay? I mean, come on...everybody already knows where he stands.

Journey is the more current joke anyway. I wonder how much time they spent ragging on the disaster of moving from augeri, to JSS, to Arnel. If anything is going to pump Herbie's ego it is going to be to point to Journey and say, "They have a fucking tribute singer. A TRIBUTE singer. I would have NEVER allowed that to happen....Journey did this wrong...they did that wrong...blah, blah, blah."

I also wonder how much, "You were used by the band..." talk there was.

And, I wonder how much was said that CAN'T make it into the interview.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:40 am

This interview is no coincidence. Azoff and Herbert are friends. There's an agenda here. I think Herbie will be complimentary to the band. They have THEIR catalog back and the chains have been taken off. I'm sure he likes that. I bet Herbie Hamburger Herbert even mentions it. This will be a pro "Journel" interview because Herbie would like nothing more than to see these guys popular one more time. Unlike another, my guess is that his love for the name Journey, and specifically Neal Schon, is unconditional.
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Postby Andrew » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:51 am

The interview runs about 30 pages. I will have it online this week.
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Postby Rick » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:54 am

Andrew wrote:The interview runs about 30 pages. I will have it online this week.


You're the man! I know that's a lot of work.
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Postby Deb » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:55 am

Monker wrote:
Lora wrote:
Deb wrote:So, have a ball reading the interview. Have a great time tearing people apart that you don't know. Come up with new and creative names to call Steve Perry. See how many people you can hurt in the process. Knock yourselves out.


Thank you. I'm glad I finaly have your permssion. Geesh, took you long enough!

Who cares anyway? Journey has not only jumped the shark, they were eaten by it, pooped out, and fed the algea. Nothing Herbie can say can help or hurt Perry or Journey. I find it funny people are even worried about it.

What new bits is he going to throw in about Perry? He found a Cheeto that looks like Perry's nose and he is going to auction it off on Ebay? I mean, come on...everybody already knows where he stands.

Journey is the more current joke anyway. I wonder how much time they spent ragging on the disaster of moving from augeri, to JSS, to Arnel. If anything is going to pump Herbie's ego it is going to be to point to Journey and say, "They have a fucking tribute singer. A TRIBUTE singer. I would have NEVER allowed that to happen....Journey did this wrong...they did that wrong...blah, blah, blah."

I also wonder how much, "You were used by the band..." talk there was.

And, I wonder how much was said that CAN'T make it into the interview.


Um, that's not my quote? :?
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:56 am

Rick wrote:
Andrew wrote:The interview runs about 30 pages. I will have it online this week.


You're the man! I know that's a lot of work.


Yes sir, not many people know how much work and stress journalism can carry with it sometimes. As a bit of a journalist myself I appreciate Andrew's work and dedication, as it takes very special (and patient!) people to do this business.

Thanks for bringing us this info 'Drew, can't wait to read and discuss. 8)
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Postby Monker » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:06 pm

Saint John wrote:This interview is no coincidence. Azoff and Herbert are friends. There's an agenda here. I think Herbie will be complimentary to the band. They have THEIR catalog back and the chains have been taken off. I'm sure he likes that. I bet Herbie Hamburger Herbert even mentions it. This will be a pro "Journel" interview because Herbie would like nothing more than to see these guys popular one more time. Unlike another, my guess is that his love for the name Journey, and specifically Neal Schon, is unconditional.


Herbie doesn't give a damn. Did he not make that plain the last time around? He washed his hands from this band long ago. I would be shocked if he says Journey can be 'popular' again. If anything he will describe what 'popular again' means and then explain why Journey will NEVER meet that definition - because it is a different world then it was 30yrs ago...or even 10yrs ago. He will go on and on about the mistakes they have made since TBF...especially over the past few years.

It's going to be a pro-Herbie interview, just as his others were. That is his perspective on the world. HE made Journey. HE deserves the credit. HE 'got the band together'. HE found Perry. HE forced Perry on the band, who did not want him. HE made Perry. When the others backed Perry instead of Herbie, the band fell apart and Herbie went on to bring success to other bands. That is his perspective...and he is absolutely correct in all of the above....which is hard for Perry fans to swallow...especially when it is Herbie spewing it.

Yes, the timing is right...It's a great time for Herbie to give an interview and promote his mystique. Who gives a crap about Journey? They're Azoff's problem. I would expect him to laugh and say something like, "Ha! I picked the right time to retire, didn't I? They sure fucked it all up! Guess that's what happens when the inmates run the asylum!" He knows the back catalog is evergreen...nothing he says in some interview is going to change that.

One question I hope was asked was about Soul Sirkus...because I would like to know some specifics about why he was mentioned as manager, and why it never happened. Did he sense it was not going to work out?

The only way I can see Herbie being all nice to Journey is if he came back as manager. If he did, well, I guess he's not as smart as he gives himself credit for.
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Postby Monker » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:09 pm

Deb wrote:Um, that's not my quote? :?


I know Lora is getting kinda old and grumpy so I went ahead and fixed it :D
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Postby Perrydise » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:10 pm

SP has always taken the high road when it has come down to business, because he is a gentleman and a class act, unlike others who like to dig shite. HH likes to "spin" a story so much and so many times that he has spun himself out. The final story he tells always ends up sounding like his first.

But, alas, I will read it for the bull, the laughing effect and probably because I have nothing in particular to do that day.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:11 pm

Andrew wrote:The interview runs about 30 pages. I will have it online this week.


30 pages..30 pages... ........its a stretch i know for a gag.... :wink:




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Postby lparn » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:59 am

jrnychick wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Folks, Steve Augeri can't talk. He is gagged.

Still?
Can't he talk about new projects?


I have no interest in hearing about anything except for Steve Augeri and his new projects.
I am only interested in hearing OFFICIALLY when the Tall Stories cd is coming out, and when his solo cd is coming out and
if there are any plans for any dates in the US. firefest v is not an option.
I would also be interested in knowing OFFICIALLY if he realizes there are alot of people out here that supported him and still support him and his music and if he knows this and that we all did not hate or trashed him. I just want to know from
HIM if he knows these things and if he appreciates the support that people have and continue to give him that are
not part of, related to or are "in the know" or part of his inner circle that have "inside information" or part of fan;websites
etc that have information about his plans etc. that we do not have or hear about after they occur.
It would be nice to know if he appreciated the support that those not "close to him" have and continue to give him.

as far a Herbie Herbert I think it will be an interesting interview.
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Postby mistiejourney » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:08 am

lparn wrote:
jrnychick wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Folks, Steve Augeri can't talk. He is gagged.

Still?
Can't he talk about new projects?


I have no interest in hearing about anything except for Steve Augeri and his new projects.
I am only interested in hearing OFFICIALLY when the Tall Stories cd is coming out, and when his solo cd is coming out and
if there are any plans for any dates in the US. firefest v is not an option.
I would also be interested in knowing OFFICIALLY if he realizes there are alot of people out here that supported him and still support him and his music and if he knows this and that we all did not hate or trashed him. I just want to know from
HIM if he knows these things and if he appreciates the support that people have and continue to give him that are
not part of, related to or are "in the know" or part of his inner circle that have "inside information" or part of fan;websites
etc that have information about his plans etc. that we do not have or hear about after they occur.
It would be nice to know if he appreciated the support that those not "close to him" have and continue to give him.

as far a Herbie Herbert I think it will be an interesting interview.


I'd like to hear that from SA, too. I miss the guy - you listen to him for eight years, see him in concert three-five times a year, sorta makes you wanna know what he's up to! I don't care that he can't hit the stratosphere - take a page out of another Journey lead singer's playbook and drop the octave, still has a great voice (when it isn't trashed from overuse!)
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:11 am

mistiejourney wrote:
lparn wrote:
jrnychick wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Folks, Steve Augeri can't talk. He is gagged.

Still?
Can't he talk about new projects?


I have no interest in hearing about anything except for Steve Augeri and his new projects.
I am only interested in hearing OFFICIALLY when the Tall Stories cd is coming out, and when his solo cd is coming out and
if there are any plans for any dates in the US. firefest v is not an option.
I would also be interested in knowing OFFICIALLY if he realizes there are alot of people out here that supported him and still support him and his music and if he knows this and that we all did not hate or trashed him. I just want to know from
HIM if he knows these things and if he appreciates the support that people have and continue to give him that are
not part of, related to or are "in the know" or part of his inner circle that have "inside information" or part of fan;websites
etc that have information about his plans etc. that we do not have or hear about after they occur.
It would be nice to know if he appreciated the support that those not "close to him" have and continue to give him.

as far a Herbie Herbert I think it will be an interesting interview.


I'd like to hear that from SA, too. I miss the guy - you listen to him for eight years, see him in concert three-five times a year, sorta makes you wanna know what he's up to! I don't care that he can't hit the stratosphere - take a page out of another Journey lead singer's playbook and drop the octave, still has a great voice (when it isn't trashed from overuse!)


Come Steve where are yeh!!1

Although i'll be seeing him in October!!!
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Postby DrFU » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:18 pm

Journey has not only jumped the shark, they were eaten by it, pooped out, and fed the algea.


Sitting here laughing like a loon...

not sure I agree, but that's effing hilarious. :lol:
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Postby squirt1 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:44 pm

Honestly-Compared to the 70-80's has Journey even run at 25% of revenues as with Perry ? They have to play with 2-3 other bands . Record sales have been paltry and they just try to scrape out a living.
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Postby Since 78 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:52 pm

squirt1 wrote:Honestly-Compared to the 70-80's has Journey even run at 25% of revenues as with Perry ? They have to play with 2-3 other bands . Record sales have been paltry and they just try to scrape out a living.


Compared to the 70s-80s? Of course not, they wouldn't be doing that if Perry was singing with them now.
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:19 pm

lparn wrote:
jrnychick wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Folks, Steve Augeri can't talk. He is gagged.

Still?
Can't he talk about new projects?


I have no interest in hearing about anything except for Steve Augeri and his new projects.
I am only interested in hearing OFFICIALLY when the Tall Stories cd is coming out, and when his solo cd is coming out and
if there are any plans for any dates in the US. firefest v is not an option.
I would also be interested in knowing OFFICIALLY if he realizes there are alot of people out here that supported him and still support him and his music and if he knows this and that we all did not hate or trashed him. I just want to know from
HIM if he knows these things and if he appreciates the support that people have and continue to give him that are
not part of, related to or are "in the know" or part of his inner circle that have "inside information" or part of fan;websites
etc that have information about his plans etc. that we do not have or hear about after they occur.
It would be nice to know if he appreciated the support that those not "close to him" have and continue to give him.

as far a Herbie Herbert I think it will be an interesting interview.


Who gives a flying fuck? You and fucking Steve Augeri. Christ. Lparn, you need to go find something in your life to take your small mind off Red Pants. SA is prolly embarrassed as all Hell by your retarded cheerleading. You have any idea how idifuckinotic you sound? This is an interview with Herbie Herbert. While he had/has a take on Augeri, no one really gives a shit what he did. Great, thanks, see ya.

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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:29 pm

Finally, the Robert Fleischman interview will see the light of day! Journey's original lead singer will tell it like it is!
But around town, it was well known...when they got home at night
Their fat and psychopathic wives
Would thrash them within inches of their lives!
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:31 pm

squirt1 wrote:Honestly-Compared to the 70-80's has Journey even run at 25% of revenues as with Perry ? They have to play with 2-3 other bands . Record sales have been paltry and they just try to scrape out a living.


Their tours always gross in the top 20. They are hardly "scraping by". Hell, Night Ranger and Loverboy command $25,000 MINIMUM per appearance.

Flock of Seagulls - THEY fall into that cateogory.

Stop bashing.
But around town, it was well known...when they got home at night
Their fat and psychopathic wives
Would thrash them within inches of their lives!
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:49 pm

I look forward to, and will support whatever Steve Auguri does with Tall Stories . I ll be first in line.
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Postby Shadowsong » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:43 pm

Let's just say
that anytime HH spills his guts
it's not a pretty sight///

:lol:

I for one think we are bigger than all this...

Maybe not bigger than HH
but above feeding into HH's kibble & bits...

I have a feeling he may just have had his fill of degradation...

I do hope someday he can walk away from the table feeling saited
for how long can someone stew & eat there own guts out?

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Postby mistiejourney » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:20 pm

youkeepmewaiting wrote:
mistiejourney wrote:
lparn wrote:
jrnychick wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Folks, Steve Augeri can't talk. He is gagged.

Still?
Can't he talk about new projects?


I have no interest in hearing about anything except for Steve Augeri and his new projects.
I am only interested in hearing OFFICIALLY when the Tall Stories cd is coming out, and when his solo cd is coming out and
if there are any plans for any dates in the US. firefest v is not an option.
I would also be interested in knowing OFFICIALLY if he realizes there are alot of people out here that supported him and still support him and his music and if he knows this and that we all did not hate or trashed him. I just want to know from
HIM if he knows these things and if he appreciates the support that people have and continue to give him that are
not part of, related to or are "in the know" or part of his inner circle that have "inside information" or part of fan;websites
etc that have information about his plans etc. that we do not have or hear about after they occur.
It would be nice to know if he appreciated the support that those not "close to him" have and continue to give him.

as far a Herbie Herbert I think it will be an interesting interview.


I'd like to hear that from SA, too. I miss the guy - you listen to him for eight years, see him in concert three-five times a year, sorta makes you wanna know what he's up to! I don't care that he can't hit the stratosphere - take a page out of another Journey lead singer's playbook and drop the octave, still has a great voice (when it isn't trashed from overuse!)


Come Steve where are yeh!!1

Although i'll be seeing him in October!!!


And where might that be? I promise not to tell anyone! Shhhhh....... :D
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Postby mistiejourney » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:22 pm

Shadowsong wrote:Let's just say
that anytime HH spills his guts
it's not a pretty sight///

:lol:

I for one think we are bigger than all this...

Maybe not bigger than HH
but above feeding into HH's kibble & bits...

I have a feeling he may just have had his fill of degradation...

I do hope someday he can walk away from the table feeling saited
for how long can someone stew & eat there own guts out?

:roll:


That was beautiful! Gross, but beautiful! :wink:
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