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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:47 am

journeygal wrote:
Eric wrote:... JSS represents a new beginning...


Change is good.


I am going to invent a tool...a special tool, that pry's your lips off of Jeffs pole. Seriously, there are other things in life besides fucking Jeff Scott Soto.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:49 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
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Eric wrote:... JSS represents a new beginning...


Change is good.


I am going to invent a tool...a special tool, that pry's your lips off of Jeffs pole. Seriously, there are other things in life besides fucking Jeff Scott Soto.


You can always make me laugh, Deano! :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:59 am

Not laughing sweetheart. I am dead serious. You must have a gallon of Gorilla glue on your lips and his rod.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:05 am

Rockn'deano wrote:Not laughing sweetheart. I am dead serious. You must have a gallon of Gorilla glue on your lips and his rod.


Right, because he's a great vocalist and I like him with Journey, and you don't :roll:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:08 am

True. I love the guy as a singer. However, he sounds like shit with Journey and takes the Journey sound away.

Simple as that.

Deen should be the guy. Does he not know he can get more hot chicks if he would grow his hair long and come out from behind the drum set?

Deen blows Jeff away.
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Postby Nunnayerbiz Ness » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:36 am

Strange, I find Deen's voice naturally high but also imperfect as far as pitch sometimes...seems the guy can do no wrong to EVERY fan who's heard him yet being a musician myself, I personally hear pitchiness here & there & the guy is GOD. Don't get me wrong, he sounds fantastic & it's only human/natural, but he has never been or claimed to be a lead singer who plays drums, it's the opposite. JSS plays keys & guitar as well, but I don't think he considers himself a keyboardist or guitarist. The day he steps forward from the drums permanently is the day Perry comes back...this coming from the man himself!

It's apples & oranges personally, to me SA sounds like SP as much as JSS sounds like either....but live, they all seemed to work well with the band & the fans...tapegate ruined one guy & a coupla bad boots made others pass judgement (ok, a few at the shows also didn't care for it but I did read quite a few converts who wrote against JSS from the get go). I dug it, it's my opinion, just like my asshole, & I'm sticking to it.

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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:40 am

Nunnayerbiz Ness wrote: no one is right, no one is wrong, keeps it more interesting that way.


What? Are you serious?

Why bother arguing a point if you don't think you are right?

I get much satisfaction from blasting holes in some peoples argument.
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Postby Eric » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:01 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
journeygal wrote:
Eric wrote:... JSS represents a new beginning...


Change is good.


I am going to invent a tool...a special tool, that pry's your lips off of Jeffs pole. Seriously, there are other things in life besides fucking Jeff Scott Soto.


There are songs that missed (ATL, OTY, DSB) but it was the best version I've ever heard of Escape and the most rocking version of Sep Ways....I say I want JSS assuming Castronovo sings some of the setlist. The boot I have of Soto is full of energy...simple as that.
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Postby junky » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:10 am

Eric wrote:There are songs that missed (ATL, OTY, DSB) but it was the best version I've ever heard of Escape and the most rocking version of Sep Ways....I say I want JSS assuming Castronovo sings some of the setlist. The boot I have of Soto is full of energy...simple as that.


I agree. SW rocked on the Detriot boot, they dropped OTY.

Overall, JSS imrpoved by Detriot. LTS was brilliant.
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Postby The Fly » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:13 am

Eric wrote:They don't need a Steve Perry replacement.

I mean, imagine saying...."We can't get Perry but we have a look-alike that sounds like him, but is like half as good."

JSS represents a new beginning....


More like the end!! Bwaaahaaahaaaaaa!!! :wink:
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Postby The Fly » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:16 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
journeygal wrote:
Eric wrote:... JSS represents a new beginning...


Change is good.


I am going to invent a tool...a special tool, that pry's your lips off of Jeffs pole. Seriously, there are other things in life besides fucking Jeff Scott Soto.


:lol: You know I am starting to like you Deano..... This place is turning into a worship JSS board.....
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:13 am

Nunnayerbiz Ness wrote:Strange, I find Deen's voice naturally high but also imperfect as far as pitch sometimes...


Ummm...That happens to ALL singers, especially if they happen to be DRUMMING at the same time.
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Postby Nunnayerbiz Ness » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:20 am

[quote="conversationpc"][quote="Nunnayerbiz Ness"]Strange, I find Deen's voice naturally high but also imperfect as far as pitch sometimes...[/quote]

Ummm...That happens to ALL singers, especially if they happen to be DRUMMING at the same time.[/quote]

PRECISELY my point, happens to ALL singers, especially those running around the stage winded, or in 95 degree temps, or...or....

It's only natural, happened to Perry, happens to most who are very active onstage.

My point was no one points that out on Deen, only on the frontman...why, cuz he's new & everyone's wants him to sound like Perry or he sucks. Deen sounds like Perry & it's automatic, that's the new frontman...can Deen deliver a show as a frontman? Guess we'll never know.

Believe me, it's NO bag on Deen WHATSOEVER, the guy is talented beyond words, it's only a point, a comparison, another view on the many threads.
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Postby verslibre » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:50 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
journeygal wrote:
Eric wrote:... JSS represents a new beginning...


Change is good.


I am going to invent a tool...a special tool, that pry's your lips off of Jeffs pole. Seriously, there are other things in life besides fucking Jeff Scott Soto.


411, Dean: there are other things in life besides worrying about who's singing for Journey. :lol:
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Postby verslibre » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:52 am

Rockn'deano wrote:Deen blows Jeff away.


This statement is correct. It simply requires an edit:

As a drummer, Deen blows Jeff away.

That's better.

Dean, you're just way too negative.
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Postby Moon Beam » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:56 am

verslibre wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:Deen blows Jeff away.


This statement is correct. It simply requires an edit:

As a drummer, Deen blows Jeff away.

That's better.

Dean, you're just way too negative.


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Postby yulog » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:56 am

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yulog wrote:The boot i heard was from Andrews mr x (georgia july 17th)and vocally it was very clear, hardly any crowd interference, Everything i heard before that was horribly riddled with crowd interference and i couldnt get a clear picture of how it sounded i would love to hear another "GOOD" boot anybody please let me hear something better but honestly Neal is going to play the dirty dozen the rest of his playing days its what the majority want to hear and my disappointment was not with little flaws or missed words it was the overall sound of his voice it changes everything for me and doesnt sound right at all i cant say what i want to because i know JSS can sing. the best way to say this is his voice is too deep and low for the sound of journey i hear a few points where he brings it high but it just doesnt fit i dont have a problem with change i had no trouble when Augeri came in but he fit pretty well into the mix. its a sad state of affairs for me if this is the permanent direction of the band .


From what I saw, Ross & Jon were playing the dirty dozen too....hell, even Deen joined in!! Why the hell do you blame Neal for making this choice? Are there no other 'voices' in this band? Management....'general fan's picks....seems Neal gets the brunt of shit for everything Journey, especially when you all don't like something going on in the band. Have you not read other threads about this subject? A package tour like this is forcing BOTH bands to stick to familiarity, why would you want a SINGLE person to head to the beer tents at any part of the show? I wouldn't, I'd give em what they want till the cows came home, especially risking they wouldn't come back next year cuz all I did was play diehard's album cuts.

Seems these threads easily stray from the original ideas & theories/opinions take over like they're factual or directly from the band. We have no idea what's going on in their camp, should we even care past the point of we love the music, the music is being brought to us with the 'postman mentality...through rain, sleet or snow'? I for one am happy to see Styx still going even though JY is the only ORIGINAL member (outside of the 2-3 song appearances by Chuck Panozzo), still happy to rock out to Foreigner even though Lou Gramm was the MAN, & will continue to support Journey bringing it every year until they drop...regardless of who is fronting. You want Perry & Augeri? Thank God for CD's & DVD's, stay home & watch to your hearts content. I mean this with respect not as a bag to anyone.


i never blamed anyone in the band for the decision and i started the post so i dont know how i can stray from my own post, maybe im used to high standards and if it doesnt fit it doesnt fit also whoever the leader of the band is will always have questions directed to them but a leader knows that and excepts it for what it is
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Postby Aaron » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:59 am

Guys,

I think Hugo is the man for the job in Journey. Here's why:

1. He brings the Journey sound back to Journey
2. He already knows all of the material
3. He has demonstrated the ability to write better Journey music than Journey

If Journey wants to keep JSS great, retire Journey and call it what is it, SS. But if Journey wants to continue with any fan recognition or chance of being commercially successful again, they need Hugo. I don't like the fact that he looks like Perry so I say cut his hair, let him be his own man, but for fucks sakes let him sing so Journey can sound like Journey again!

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Postby Wally_Hatchet » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:25 pm

JSS has said himself that he had been singing a lot when he got the call to join Joirney. He also stated that they have some time off this month and to just wait until he gets his voice properly rested.

Give the guy a few weeks and see what happens. I was concerned after listening to the Charlotte boot but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

He has the pipes and with proper rest I'd bet he will sounf a lot better.

I also just realized I have seen him before with Yngwie, about 20 years ago in Lakeland, Florida (opening for either AC/DC or Iron Maiden) and he was great.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:34 pm

Wally_Hatchet wrote:Give the guy a few weeks and see what happens. I was concerned after listening to the Charlotte boot but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

He has the pipes and with proper rest I'd bet he will sounf a lot better.


I think he has sounded progressively better each time out. He definitely needs the rest, so I'm hoping he is able to bring it back stronger in the next round.
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Postby Monker » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:56 pm

Nunnayerbiz Ness wrote:Hagar replaces Roth = no soundalike, sold twice the albums than Roth/VH
Johnson replaces Scott = no soundalike but AC/DC have a 2nd life just as if not more successful
Dickinson replaces DiAnno = no soundalike but Iron Maiden go beyond their wildest imagination of success because of it
Rodgers replaces Mercury = no soundalike but Queen go on to a successful world tour & live DVD
Jamison replaces Bickler = new guy sounds more like Perry & Survivor have more success than 1st 2 albums

I think you get the gist here...


VH : Cherone replaces Hagar...Not a soundalike, the band fails.

AC/DC : Johnson replacing Scott happened at the BEGINNING of their career. Let's see what happens when somebody replaces Johnson after 30yrs of the band performing the same style of songs live and in the studio.

Queen : The tour wasn't advertised as "Queen", but "Queen featuring Paul Rogers". So, they took a big name singer and attached it to the "Queen" name. If Journey went out as "Journey featuring Sammy Hagar", it would sell...I *HIGHLY* doubt "Journey featuring Jeff Scott Soto" would sell any better then just using the Journey name by itself.

Survivor : Jamison replaced Bickler at the apex of their career. "Eye of the Tiger" has BICKLER'S voice on it, NOT Jamison's. There is also VERY similar sound between the two. When Bickler replaced Jamison back in the 90's, did it matter? Did it matter much when Jamison replaced Bicker AGAIN? Now that they have gone for yet another singer, do you think THAT is going to matter? They are ALSO at the end of their rope.

there are many more I am sure others will add to this list but bottom line...what the hell is wrong with Journey going outside the box & getting someone (IMO) who can sing the songs just fine yet may give them a new spark, a new life, past the dirty dozen?


Wait and see what the average music fan does once they realize that this version of Journey does not really sound much like the Journey they grew up with...either Augeri OR Perry. LIke I have said, I give them two years before they are playing balloon festivals and such.

Do you just want Journey to continue as a karaoke band or find some tired old fat guy who can hit the notes but not give a new vitality to the band, which they seem to be getting on the road?


What the dozen fans on this forum want is irrelevant...It's the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people who buy the tickets who carry the power. I have absolutely NO problem hearing the 'dirty dozen' + a two or three newish songs and a couple more album cuts.

From the majority of what I read, reviews from papers & fans alike are loving the SHOWS, you guys are listening to boots without realizing there is activity, movement, interaction, etc., going on which make for imperfection in performance. Britney & Madonna move a lot & are perfect but they aint singing.


It doesn't make any difference. JSS"s voice isn't Journey. Even if he 'hits' the notes, it just doesn't sound right. That's the problem. That is what I complained about from the time it was announced. Jamison SOUNDS like Survivor. Johnson SOUNDS like AC/DC. Sammy SOUNDS like VH - because of Eddie's guitar. Cherone does NOT sound like VH. Rogers does NOT sound like Queen - so they changed the name. THAT is the issue here.

This thread will probably go a few pages now, but honestly, isn't this stuff you all covered already? You have no clue or even right to pass judgement on what it might be until you get a new piece of silver plastic to place in your stereo & judge...till then, it's just a tour, it's a new approach....hell, let's call it Evolution, just to keep it in the family!


I have EVERY right to pass judgement on it. I have been given the privilege to post that judgement here. I don't need a CD or bootleg for me to have the opinion that JSS does not have a voice that fits Journey any better then Cherone has a voice that fits VH.
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Postby Monker » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:07 pm

journeygal wrote:
Eric wrote:... JSS represents a new beginning...


Change is good.


I always thought the quote was "Greed is good".
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:16 pm

Monker wrote:
journeygal wrote:
Eric wrote:... JSS represents a new beginning...


Change is good.


I always thought the quote was "Greed is good".


In this case, it's "change" :wink:
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Postby verslibre » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:18 pm

Moon Beam wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:Deen blows Jeff away.


This statement is correct. It simply requires an edit:

As a drummer, Deen blows Jeff away.

That's better.

Dean, you're just way too negative.


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Postby Nunnayerbiz Ness » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:29 pm

[b]Good, I like a good sparring partner :)[/b]

VH : Cherone replaces Hagar...Not a soundalike, the band fails.

[b]Cherone didn't suck as much as the songs did...he even admitted he was TOLD to sound/sing a certain way on the crap they put in front of him. Red 13 comes to mind in this comment![/b]

AC/DC : Johnson replacing Scott happened at the BEGINNING of their career. Let's see what happens when somebody replaces Johnson after 30yrs of the band performing the same style of songs live and in the studio.

[b]The beginning for you maybe, are you kidding me? They did 6 or 7 albums with him before he died, the last being Highway To Hell which was a pinnacle one to their success before Brian came in.[/b]

Queen : The tour wasn't advertised as "Queen", but "Queen featuring Paul Rogers". So, they took a big name singer and attached it to the "Queen" name. If Journey went out as "Journey featuring Sammy Hagar", it would sell...I *HIGHLY* doubt "Journey featuring Jeff Scott Soto" would sell any better then just using the Journey name by itself.

[b]
Not the point, talking voices not billing....you could call it Queen + Carol Channing, iit wasn't so much about the frontman fans just accepted it & came in droves to 'hear the music'![/b]

Survivor : Jamison replaced Bickler at the apex of their career. "Eye of the Tiger" has BICKLER'S voice on it, NOT Jamison's. There is also VERY similar sound between the two. When Bickler replaced Jamison back in the 90's, did it matter? Did it matter much when Jamison replaced Bicker AGAIN? Now that they have gone for yet another singer, do you think THAT is going to matter? They are ALSO at the end of their rope.

[b]Um, huge difference in their voices, same differences as Perry & Augeri...although some call Augeri a Perry soundalike, I find it further from reality.[/b]


Wait and see what the average music fan does once they realize that this version of Journey does not really sound much like the Journey they grew up with...either Augeri OR Perry. LIke I have said, I give them two years before they are playing balloon festivals and such.

[b]Sure, that is if they play their cards the wrong way & don't take advantage of a 'new beginning'. If they concentrate on an album that 1 guy sings primarily the whole album (of course I say let Deen sing a couple, gotta take advantage of that throat!) & management can get them a real deal instead of giving the thing away, they could have a chance at a new hit single. The writing capability there is monstrous, if not taken advantage of, yes, i see them with REO at another County Fair.[/b]

What the dozen fans on this forum want is irrelevant...It's the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people who buy the tickets who carry the power. I have absolutely NO problem hearing the 'dirty dozen' + a two or three newish songs and a couple more album cuts.

[b]
Right, but at a 3 hour extravaganza, they have delivered the goods, on this recent one, people shrug the goods.[/b]

It doesn't make any difference. JSS"s voice isn't Journey. Even if he 'hits' the notes, it just doesn't sound right. That's the problem. That is what I complained about from the time it was announced. Jamison SOUNDS like Survivor. Johnson SOUNDS like AC/DC. Sammy SOUNDS like VH - because of Eddie's guitar. Cherone does NOT sound like VH. Rogers does NOT sound like Queen - so they changed the name. THAT is the issue here.

[b]Augeri didn't sound like Journey either, his voice was a soft tenor who 'hit the notes' but did he sing with Perry's inflections, soul & power...um, no. But it worked, why? Because that is what the band chose, they forged ahead & new fans formed a love for him as the 'only' frontman. ANY singer would get shit slung at him, including Deen, because all people do is compare...I did it earlier, it's then nature of moving forward, you're never gonna please everyone but the majority don't give a shit as much as the ones who spent countless hours a day here posting. And puhleeze...Sammy sounded like VH because of the guitar...think about the hits they had with him, Right Now, When It's Love, Dreams...you mean sounds like VH cuz of the keyboards right?[/b]

I have EVERY right to pass judgement on it. I have been given the privilege to post that judgement here. I don't need a CD or bootleg for me to have the opinion that JSS does not have a voice that fits Journey any better then Cherone has a voice that fits VH.

[b]You misunderstood my statement of having the right...I referred to this right based on a bootleg or a review...you have NO idea what a Journey/JSS recording sounds like until you pop into a CD player therefore no right to judge what it will sound like before this occurs. That's like saying because it was sunny today it will be sunny tomorrow![/b]
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:37 pm

Nunnayerbiz Ness wrote:Good, I like a good sparring partner :)

VH : Cherone replaces Hagar...Not a soundalike, the band fails.

Cherone didn't suck as much as the songs did...he even admitted he was TOLD to sound/sing a certain way on the crap they put in front of him. Red 13 comes to mind in this comment!

AC/DC : Johnson replacing Scott happened at the BEGINNING of their career. Let's see what happens when somebody replaces Johnson after 30yrs of the band performing the same style of songs live and in the studio.

The beginning for you maybe, are you kidding me? They did 6 or 7 albums with him before he died, the last being Highway To Hell which was a pinnacle one to their success before Brian came in.

Queen : The tour wasn't advertised as "Queen", but "Queen featuring Paul Rogers". So, they took a big name singer and attached it to the "Queen" name. If Journey went out as "Journey featuring Sammy Hagar", it would sell...I *HIGHLY* doubt "Journey featuring Jeff Scott Soto" would sell any better then just using the Journey name by itself.


Not the point, talking voices not billing....you could call it Queen + Carol Channing, iit wasn't so much about the frontman fans just accepted it & came in droves to 'hear the music'!


Survivor : Jamison replaced Bickler at the apex of their career. "Eye of the Tiger" has BICKLER'S voice on it, NOT Jamison's. There is also VERY similar sound between the two. When Bickler replaced Jamison back in the 90's, did it matter? Did it matter much when Jamison replaced Bicker AGAIN? Now that they have gone for yet another singer, do you think THAT is going to matter? They are ALSO at the end of their rope.

Um, huge difference in their voices, same differences as Perry & Augeri...although some call Augeri a Perry soundalike, I find it further from reality.


Wait and see what the average music fan does once they realize that this version of Journey does not really sound much like the Journey they grew up with...either Augeri OR Perry. LIke I have said, I give them two years before they are playing balloon festivals and such.

Sure, that is if they play their cards the wrong way & don't take advantage of a 'new beginning'. If they concentrate on an album that 1 guy sings primarily the whole album (of course I say let Deen sing a couple, gotta take advantage of that throat!) & management can get them a real deal instead of giving the thing away, they could have a chance at a new hit single. The writing capability there is monstrous, if not taken advantage of, yes, i see them with REO at another County Fair.

What the dozen fans on this forum want is irrelevant...It's the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people who buy the tickets who carry the power. I have absolutely NO problem hearing the 'dirty dozen' + a two or three newish songs and a couple more album cuts.


Right, but at a 3 hour extravaganza, they have delivered the goods, on this recent one, people shrug the goods.


It doesn't make any difference. JSS"s voice isn't Journey. Even if he 'hits' the notes, it just doesn't sound right. That's the problem. That is what I complained about from the time it was announced. Jamison SOUNDS like Survivor. Johnson SOUNDS like AC/DC. Sammy SOUNDS like VH - because of Eddie's guitar. Cherone does NOT sound like VH. Rogers does NOT sound like Queen - so they changed the name. THAT is the issue here.

Augeri didn't sound like Journey either, his voice was a soft tenor who 'hit the notes' but did he sing with Perry's inflections, soul & power...um, no. But it worked, why? Because that is what the band chose, they forged ahead & new fans formed a love for him as the 'only' frontman. ANY singer would get shit slung at him, including Deen, because all people do is compare...I did it earlier, it's then nature of moving forward, you're never gonna please everyone but the majority don't give a shit as much as the ones who spent countless hours a day here posting. And puhleeze...Sammy sounded like VH because of the guitar...think about the hits they had with him, Right Now, When It's Love, Dreams...you mean sounds like VH cuz of the keyboards right?

I have EVERY right to pass judgement on it. I have been given the privilege to post that judgement here. I don't need a CD or bootleg for me to have the opinion that JSS does not have a voice that fits Journey any better then Cherone has a voice that fits VH.

You misunderstood my statement of having the right...I referred to this right based on a bootleg or a review...you have NO idea what a Journey/JSS recording sounds like until you pop into a CD player therefore no right to judge what it will sound like before this occurs. That's like saying because it was sunny today it will be sunny tomorrow!


Hard to tell who's saying what here.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:43 pm

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VH : Cherone replaces Hagar...Not a soundalike, the band fails.

Cherone didn't suck as much as the songs did...he even admitted he was TOLD to sound/sing a certain way on the crap they put in front of him. Red 13 comes to mind in this comment!

AC/DC : Johnson replacing Scott happened at the BEGINNING of their career. Let's see what happens when somebody replaces Johnson after 30yrs of the band performing the same style of songs live and in the studio.

The beginning for you maybe, are you kidding me? They did 6 or 7 albums with him before he died, the last being Highway To Hell which was a pinnacle one to their success before Brian came in.

Queen : The tour wasn't advertised as "Queen", but "Queen featuring Paul Rogers". So, they took a big name singer and attached it to the "Queen" name. If Journey went out as "Journey featuring Sammy Hagar", it would sell...I *HIGHLY* doubt "Journey featuring Jeff Scott Soto" would sell any better then just using the Journey name by itself.


Not the point, talking voices not billing....you could call it Queen + Carol Channing, iit wasn't so much about the frontman fans just accepted it & came in droves to 'hear the music'!


Survivor : Jamison replaced Bickler at the apex of their career. "Eye of the Tiger" has BICKLER'S voice on it, NOT Jamison's. There is also VERY similar sound between the two. When Bickler replaced Jamison back in the 90's, did it matter? Did it matter much when Jamison replaced Bicker AGAIN? Now that they have gone for yet another singer, do you think THAT is going to matter? They are ALSO at the end of their rope.

Um, huge difference in their voices, same differences as Perry & Augeri...although some call Augeri a Perry soundalike, I find it further from reality.


Wait and see what the average music fan does once they realize that this version of Journey does not really sound much like the Journey they grew up with...either Augeri OR Perry. LIke I have said, I give them two years before they are playing balloon festivals and such.

Sure, that is if they play their cards the wrong way & don't take advantage of a 'new beginning'. If they concentrate on an album that 1 guy sings primarily the whole album (of course I say let Deen sing a couple, gotta take advantage of that throat!) & management can get them a real deal instead of giving the thing away, they could have a chance at a new hit single. The writing capability there is monstrous, if not taken advantage of, yes, i see them with REO at another County Fair.

What the dozen fans on this forum want is irrelevant...It's the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people who buy the tickets who carry the power. I have absolutely NO problem hearing the 'dirty dozen' + a two or three newish songs and a couple more album cuts.


Right, but at a 3 hour extravaganza, they have delivered the goods, on this recent one, people shrug the goods.


It doesn't make any difference. JSS"s voice isn't Journey. Even if he 'hits' the notes, it just doesn't sound right. That's the problem. That is what I complained about from the time it was announced. Jamison SOUNDS like Survivor. Johnson SOUNDS like AC/DC. Sammy SOUNDS like VH - because of Eddie's guitar. Cherone does NOT sound like VH. Rogers does NOT sound like Queen - so they changed the name. THAT is the issue here.

Augeri didn't sound like Journey either, his voice was a soft tenor who 'hit the notes' but did he sing with Perry's inflections, soul & power...um, no. But it worked, why? Because that is what the band chose, they forged ahead & new fans formed a love for him as the 'only' frontman. ANY singer would get shit slung at him, including Deen, because all people do is compare...I did it earlier, it's then nature of moving forward, you're never gonna please everyone but the majority don't give a shit as much as the ones who spent countless hours a day here posting. And puhleeze...Sammy sounded like VH because of the guitar...think about the hits they had with him, Right Now, When It's Love, Dreams...you mean sounds like VH cuz of the keyboards right?

I have EVERY right to pass judgement on it. I have been given the privilege to post that judgement here. I don't need a CD or bootleg for me to have the opinion that JSS does not have a voice that fits Journey any better then Cherone has a voice that fits VH.

You misunderstood my statement of having the right...I referred to this right based on a bootleg or a review...you have NO idea what a Journey/JSS recording sounds like until you pop into a CD player therefore no right to judge what it will sound like before this occurs. That's like saying because it was sunny today it will be sunny tomorrow!


Hard to tell who's saying what here.


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Postby verslibre » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:44 pm

Monker wrote:AC/DC : Johnson replacing Scott happened at the BEGINNING of their career. Let's see what happens when somebody replaces Johnson after 30yrs of the band performing the same style of songs live and in the studio.


Hmmm...when Johnson joined AC/DC, the band had already released:

High Voltage (1975) — every song is a classic, the most memorable being "It's A Long Way To The Top (If You Want To Rock 'N' Roll)."

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (1976) — ditto, with the title track, the hilarious "Big Balls," etc.

Let There Be Rock (1977) — bitchin' title track plus a whole bunch of songs now regarded as AC/DC standards

Powerage (1978) — solid album but you never hear any of the songs from this one on the radio, which is gay!

If You Want Blood You've Got It (1978) — live album issued at the right time.

Highway To Hell (1979) — most successful album to date with a hit title track, plus "The Girl's Got Rhythm" and "Shot Down In Flames."

That's a whopping five studio albums and a live record. Johnson was damn fortunate to have a voice that conformed to the band's sound without any shake-ups, and to get in there right as the band's career was exploding like a volcano. Talk about eerily convenient. So no, Johnson did not join AC/DC at the "beginning."

And nobody will replace Johnson. AC/DC's one band wise enough to call it a day if they get tired of making all that money. :)
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:48 pm

journeygal wrote:
conversationpc wrote:Hard to tell who's saying what here.


I'm with ya.. my eyes are burning :wink:


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