Tall Stories Tour 2007

[brywool]

I saw ONE post on Google from a European crew member (search Journey Weirdness), which got my attention more than anything I read here or on Deano's blog, because I know live sound and technically, it made sense. The blog just had too much other stuff in it to hold my attention.

Yeah, that was Svante Pettersson. He posted the same thing here, along with some other stuff.

that was before I came over here, but yeah, that was the guy.

[brywool]

Not SS. I thought it was terrible and boring. It was like the HSAS album. There was nothing memorable there.

Now I KNOW you are certifiably out of your freakin' mind!
HSAS is a CLASSIC... I thought I heard it all.

You really need some help.

No, I just don't have the same taste as you do. I thought it was a boring record.
Didn't exactly sell a buttload of them, did it? If that was such a great project,
why was it only a one off deal?

I don't really understand how you guys turn opinions into personal attacks.

[Carlitto H@kk]

No, I just don't have the same taste as you do. I thought it was a boring record.
Didn't exactly sell a buttload of them, did it? If that was such a great project,
why was it only a one off deal?

I don't really understand how you guys turn opinions into personal attacks.

Dude, lighten up... I'm sure you're not a certified NutJob but...
I just don't know many long-time Journey fans that DON'T like HSAS.
And the fact that it was a one-off makes it a classic, not to mention some awesome songs

BTW, in case you didn't know (and I'm not being sarcastic), SS started out as PlantUs w/ Hagar/Schon/Anthony(VH)/Castranovo/Satch... Do you think you would've dug those SS tunes, just theoretically, w/ THAT line-up laying them down?

[brywool]

Also one of Neal's finest hours.

Your opinion. Bored the shit out of me.

I'm not referring to Svante the sound tech guy. I'm talking about a notable musician on the Noticeboard forum of this very site. He was shouting from the hilltops about what Augeri was doing long before Deano broke it.

That was before I came over here. Never saw it. Send me to the posts, I'd be interested...

I was told a long time ago that Neal's guitar parts where concocted by someone else, and that Neal got undeserved credit- a frequent industry practice.
Normally I wouldn't lend such a theory any credibility, but Neal is on record saying he wasn't even in the room when the album was being made.
Makes you wonder.....

Wow, haven't heard that quote before...

On TBF Neals name is at the end of the credits. It means nothing.

How do you figure?
I think Neal's hallmarks are all over TBF. As gasbag Monker commonly says, "it sounds like Beyond the Thunder only with vocals!"

His PLAYING and style are all over it. But look at writing credits. You ("deary" ) were saying that because Augeri's credit was at the end of the list of writers that it meant nothing. I was countering saying that Neal's name is at the end of TBF songs, so does that mean he didn't really write them? I say it doesn't mean that. Same with Augeri. Yeah, I would say a lot of it does sound like Beyond the Thunder. Like Beyond the Thunder sat on FTLOSM.

You're just kind of bent on negating Augeri's contribution to anything.

Bullshit. I give credit where credit is due. "Tall Stories" is a stellar work and Augeri deserves to be lauded for it.
As for his contributions in Journey, well, they don't amount to a hill of beans, sadly.

Again, I don't agree with you on the Journey stuff.

I'm not saying the guy's the greatest or anything. I'm just saying, he actually did bring stuff to the party. From the 3 concerts I've heard of JSS, he does not.

I thought we were talking about writing credits here, not concert boots.
If you want to pit JSS's credits up against Augeri's, I assure you JSS is the clearcut victor.

I thought we were talking about contribution period?

Regarding Augeri and where he appears on the song credits, who cares?

I do. It means alot. A frontman who doesn't actively contribute in the creative process is merely an empty cipher.

I dunno. Robin Zander's sang Rick Nielsen songs forever and he kicks major ass, yet had nothing to do with writing some of CTs biggest hits. Geddy Lee didn't write most of the Rush lyrics, yet it works great for him.

Like I said, we don't agree. It's not that big of a deal.

[brywool]

No, I just don't have the same taste as you do. I thought it was a boring record.
Didn't exactly sell a buttload of them, did it? If that was such a great project,
why was it only a one off deal?

I don't really understand how you guys turn opinions into personal attacks.

Dude, lighten up... I'm sure you're not a certified NutJob but...
I just don't know many long-time Journey fans that DON'T like HSAS.
And the fact that it was a one-off makes it a classic, not to mention some awesome songs

BTW, in case you didn't know (and I'm not being sarcastic), SS started out as PlantUs w/ Hagar/Schon/Anthony(VH)/Castranovo/Satch... Do you think you would've dug those SS tunes, just theoretically, w/ THAT line-up laying them down?

I know how SS started out. I would've much rather had that incarnation with Anthony doing his stellar harmony work. That harmony work was missing from both HSAS and JSS. That MAY be why I don't care of those. I'm not a huge fan of harmony-less tunes. I'm a singer/guitarist, what can I say. I'm a longtime Journey fan (saw them first in 79) and I didn't dig HSAS. I may have liked it better with Hagar. I'm not that big a fan of JSS singing. Good singer, but just not my bag.

I'm light. I just don't think it's cool to say "you really need help" because I don't get into the same album you do.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I was countering saying that Neal's name is at the end of TBF songs, so does that mean he didn't really write them? I say it doesn't mean that. Same with Augeri.

No, but presumably on that song he had the least involvement out of the writing triumvirate of Perry/Cain/Schon.

[Jeremey fan forever]

I personally don't care if the band/singer writes their own songs. There are good song writers who cant play or sing well enough to deliver the goods, but the songs are worth hearing. Some bands should NEVER write their own songs because they suck at it. Journey, however, is a kick-ass song writing band, so its great that they write their own stuff, and I can't imagine them needing outside writers. But they sometimes write with others outside the band (like Blades for Higher Place) to inject some new ideas. But if the ideas stopped coming, I'd rather hear them do good songs of someone else rather than crap of their own.

[mack]

If they want a great substitue until Augeri gets better, why don't they give HUGO a tryout.
As great a singer as Soto is, he is not right for this band.
At least give the fans the sound they want until Steve can come back. It will make for a great show.
HUGO is definitely the guy for this, he is doing a Journey tribute band now. Check out his website at journeyshow.com
It would be a story just like the movie Rockstar, guy gets to live out a dream.
(Soto could appreciate a story like that)

[ArnelRox]

Tall Stories with Steve Augeri kick off a series of 2007 tour dates in Japan on 2nd February!!!

OK so he had to resort to singing to tapes in his final days with Journey but that was simply to avoid canceling shows. I for one can't wait to see him on stage again!!

Did we get anything else on this since yesterday? Andrew comment yet? If hes able to...Ive been looking thru threads but saw nothing. Theres a lot of posts since yesterday tho...

[squirt1]

I remember the 50's-60's music. It was OK.but the Beatles c 1964 changed everything. They played LIVE &nd WROTE their own material. Next ,here comes some more real music i.e. Ledzeppelin,Rolling Stones, Rod Stewart,Aerosmith,Foreigner,Styx and JOURNEY post '77 . Then in the 80's BonJovi,Bruce,Van Halen etc. Think about this. They control their own destiny. Everytime the music is played or on radio $$$$ or someone else sings it. Writing is where the $$$ are at and live performances. Think of the revenue from movies and commercials. Journey HAD the best 3 writers during 77-97 and that is where the hits were. They were the best live band EVER !

[Chakra]

Ditto

[Jeremey fan forever]

If they want a great substitue until Augeri gets better, why don't they give HUGO a tryout.
As great a singer as Soto is, he is not right for this band.
At least give the fans the sound they want until Steve can come back. It will make for a great show.
HUGO is definitely the guy for this, he is doing a Journey tribute band now. Check out his website at journeyshow.com
It would be a story just like the movie Rockstar, guy gets to live out a dream.
(Soto could appreciate a story like that)

Are you stupid? WHY have you repeated this in EVERY thread??? What the fuck are you, a spambot?

[finalfight]

If they want a great substitue until Augeri gets better, why don't they give HUGO a tryout.
As great a singer as Soto is, he is not right for this band.
At least give the fans the sound they want until Steve can come back. It will make for a great show.
HUGO is definitely the guy for this, he is doing a Journey tribute band now. Check out his website at journeyshow.com
It would be a story just like the movie Rockstar, guy gets to live out a dream.
(Soto could appreciate a story like that)

Are you stupid? WHY have you repeated this in EVERY thread??? What the fuck are you, a spambot?

And I thought I liked Hugo!!!

[bionic]

Tall Stories with Steve Augeri kick off a series of 2007 tour dates in Japan on 2nd February!!!

OK so he had to resort to singing to tapes in his final days with Journey but that was simply to avoid canceling shows. I for one can't wait to see him on stage again!!

We are assuming that Steve Augeri is still the singer? So maybe they are touring?

[bionic]

No, I just don't have the same taste as you do. I thought it was a boring record.
Didn't exactly sell a buttload of them, did it? If that was such a great project,
why was it only a one off deal?

I don't really understand how you guys turn opinions into personal attacks.

Dude, lighten up... I'm sure you're not a certified NutJob but...
I just don't know many long-time Journey fans that DON'T like HSAS.
And the fact that it was a one-off makes it a classic, not to mention some awesome songs

BTW, in case you didn't know (and I'm not being sarcastic), SS started out as PlantUs w/ Hagar/Schon/Anthony(VH)/Castranovo/Satch... Do you think you would've dug those SS tunes, just theoretically, w/ THAT line-up laying them down?

HSAS what a great record,loved to have seen that line up live