Journey to Tour with Perry in 2008 - FALSE!!!!!!!

[StyxCollector]

Look, if it's Perry, it's the right move. I'm skeptical since quite frankly, even IF he is back:
a) The album won't sell insanely - let's face it, it's 2007, not 1981 despite the DSB stuff
b) The tour would do well, and they'd headline, but there's still going to be an opening act/2 act bill to pull it off I think
c) I think it'll be a fragile peace. Assuming we don't get the TBF fiasco of 1996, I don't see more than a summer shed tour

Like Styx, I think a "one more time for old time's sake" has been in the offing for years, but just like Styx post-1997, it can unravel faster than a lit fuse.

Maybe bringing other singers in to audition - Jeremey, Arnel, who knows who else - was a power play. And no matter what Schon may think of TBF, he does get along with Kevin Shirley (he was at Schon's wedding a few years back I think); I think it was Arrival he had the huge issue with. Now, remember that Caveman did work with Perry and the boys in 1996 and could handle the egos. Heck, he works with Jimmy Page. So it would stand to reason for an important project, you don't want some unknown that couldn't work with all involved.

Again, I'd be just as happy as everyone else if this turns out to be true. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting.

[Fourt9rkim]

IF this happens, you can bet that Fresno would be on that schedule, given it's only an hour give or take from Perry's hometown, and Journey was HUGE here back in the day.....and your happy ass had better be here!

No way.

If they do this, they won't stop in Fresno, not even for bus fuel. They will do big markets. There isn't an arena in Fresno that they could play. That place at University of Fresno is too small. They would do Staples or the Pond in LA, and then to the Bay Area for shows. You people in cow towns and outposts won't get a sniff. This won't be a Carnival and Hot dog Fair tour if it comes true.

Sorry Dean...but "that place" is a hell of alot bigger than Selland Arena, where they used to play when they hit town. Hell, they played at Ratcliffe Stadium back in the 70's. So YES, I believe they WILL play Fresno. The cow shit aroma must have gotten to you last October, eh?

[*Laura]

I recall reading here sometime ago that Journey were already checking out and booking some big venues for 2008,but I can't remember exactly who said it .
SJ,was it you?

[Talisma]

But why would they even have brought you out there Jeremey if they dumped Jeff because they knew Steve would come back?

maybe to push Steve in a corner. Poker hand, and well played?

Well, that, and then covering all their bases, I guess.

Jeremey; YOU ARE THE MAN WHO INVENTED COOLNESS!!
You have the best thing to put in a CV: I got sacked from Journey!!
Which means:
I am human being
I got a warm heath
I respect other people
I listen to people
I care
AND I CAN SING !!!!!!!

Well, I could go on and on and on.....

But in the end, like Steve Perry, Steve Augeri and Jeff scott Soto: You get a LOT of PR from NOT getting involved with these as......

What the hell is a warm heath and where can I get one...?

Oh and yay for Stevie (if there is any truth in this snowballing rumour)!

Sorry, another spelling error, I meant heaRt, which I am conviced that Jeremey has

[Jeremey]

Which is what Van Halen is doing. Look at their schedule. They never play consecutive nights.

Who is Van Halen's manager again?

Oh yeah, Irving Azoff!

And by the way, when I was at dinner with Azoff & company, he and Neal were discussing Van Halen and at that point, they still hadn't confirmed Dave coming back in completely. That was June, and VH is already on tour.

[ProgRocker53]

For the record...

Wasn't DLR quoted as saying there'd be no way in hell he'd ever tour with VH again, two or three months before the new tour was announced?

[Playitloudforme]

Look, if it's Perry, it's the right move. I'm skeptical since quite frankly, even IF he is back:
a) The album won't sell insanely - let's face it, it's 2007, not 1981 despite the DSB stuff
b) The tour would do well, and they'd headline, but there's still going to be an opening act/2 act bill to pull it off I think
c) I think it'll be a fragile peace. Assuming we don't get the TBF fiasco of 1996, I don't see more than a summer shed tour

Like Styx, I think a "one more time for old time's sake" has been in the offing for years, buy just like Styx post-1997, it can unravel faster than a lit fuse.

Maybe bringing other singers in to audition - Jeremey, Arnel, who knows who else - was a power play. And no matter what Schon may think of TBF, he does get along with Kevin Shirley (he was at Schon's wedding a few years back I think); I think it was Arrival he had the huge issue with. Now, remember that Caveman did work with Perry and the boys in 1996 and could handle the egos. Heck, he works with Jimmy Page. So it would stand to reason for an important project, you don't want some unknown that couldn't work with all involved.

Again, I'd be just as happy as everyone else if this turns out to be true. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting.

Allan, I'd tend to disagree. The marketing would be done to ensure this would be massive. Good case in point -- the sales spikes were immense with DSB showing up on the Sopranos and others. That's just with one song on television -- it would be astronomical live with Perry. Azoff knows this. These guys left off with a Grammy nomination, and that was after a long period of being off.

Bottom line, if it's a false rumor, Steve or Neal will eventually respond to it. If it's true -- the cap is off the secret and it'll be all over the place in record time.

But Journey is in the studio with Kevin... so they have Somebody. Announcement has to be sooner than later. And if it is true, I've got a great 22 year old I can put up for endentured service say for....$20,000?????

[Jeremey]

Sorry, another spelling error, I meant heaRt, which I am conviced that Jeremey has

Thanks for the kind words, Talisma!

[bluejeangirl76]

From the article:

Sounds like another cliffhanger.

Let's hope we don't have to hang on the cliff much longer.

That's his full name from now on. Steve "Cliffhanger" Perry. Fucker is GOOD at it too.

Touring with Journey in '08? Yeah. We'll see. Excuse my pessimism but those Trial By Fire satellite interviews just came SCREAMING back to me... "Yeah we're going on the road this summer!" I'll believe it when PERRY says it. Actually no.... wait... even then it's probably sketchy at best... he said the same thing in '96 and again around '01...LOL! Okay, I'll believe it when he puts it in writing. And has it notarized. and....

nevermind. I'll believe it when go to the show and SEE it.

[Jeremey]

So Journey is either in the studio right now with Arnel Pineda or Steve Perry. Could there be any other cliffhanger to see what twist fate turns on? If it's Arnel, it's business as usual, and we go right back to the old bickering and bashing, but this time with race baiting thrown in for good measure. If it's Perry, there will be flowers, peace and light, and Journey fans can once again hold hands and sing Kum Ba Ya. Man, nothing against Arnel, but I'm sure hoping for the latter.

[StyxCollector]

Bottom line, if it's a false rumor, Steve or Neal will eventually respond to it. If it's true -- the cap is off the secret and it'll be all over the place in record time.

Well, Journey and PR were never the best matches in the past few years (see: multiple lead singer fiascos).

You're right. The only thing we can 100% confirm is that they are in the studio with Shirley. What would solidify this for me if Smitty is there, too. I just can't see him NOT being involved if Perry is back. Love Deen, but give me Smitty.

[finalfight]

This is all eerily reminiscent of the Judas Priest reunion with lead singer Rob Halford. Frequent rumours followed by denials from band and management followed almost overnight by a completely updated website with the news emblazoned on the front page. I mean everyone was denying it but behind the scenes bridges previously burned had been rebuilt. This took place over the course of several years. Once the band reformed they almost immediately set to work on recording a new album with Halford's producer of choice Roy Z.

So once again with have the Journey/Steve Perry rumour and once again denials. If this is going to happen I believe it has been at best tentative and that Journey were actively looking for a replacement singer as a backup plan solution should a deal with Perry fall through. Notice the decision to release JSS came with the announcement that they wanted to return to the legacy sound, something which both Jeremey and Arnel excel at vocally. It wasn't like they auditioned a lot of singers either, almost like that Perryesque sound is difficult to match. That might certainly be an ego boost for someone who has been out of the spotlight for so long. We know Jeremey is not currently at the helm and Arnel is supposedly tied to MCA Records until the end of the year so a return to the legacy sound + cryptic messages from Kevin Shirley + Cyndy's confirmation that Journey are indeed in the studio = Journey have quite possibly reunited with Steve Perry, quite possibly...

Anyway, what do I know. Here come the denials...

[Jeremey]

I will share this. When in California, JT fielded 2 calls from Herbie Herbert while I was around. Both times he said he'd call Herbie back, but he laughed at one point and said, "Yeah, like deja vu all over again, huh?" The first thing that crossed my mind was Kevin Chalfant and Trial By Fire. I guess we'll find out soon enough though.

[finalfight]

I will share this. When in California, JT fielded 2 calls from Herbie Herbert while I was around. Both times he said he'd call Herbie back, but he laughed at one point and said, "Yeah, like deja vu all over again, huh?" The first thing that crossed my mind was Kevin Chalfant and Trial By Fire. I guess we'll find out soon enough though.

Hey Jeremey,

Thanks for the info. At the risk of sounding like a complete dork, who is JT?

[Talisma]

Sorry, another spelling error, I meant heaRt, which I am conviced that Jeremey has

Thanks for the kind words, Talisma!

I just read your blog:
"anyway, the dealbreaker was my relationship with my wife and my family. i was told after a band meeting to arrive on my own for a sit-down before working on some demos. i was surprised to hear that neal was completely freaked out by my wife all week."

Damned it,
Isn't the family the only thing that counts????
Everything els is just ...nothing.
I hope you and your wife are well and man, having a child is the best thing that can happen.
When me and my wife had our daughter, well , that was the best day in my life:
I wouldn't change that day for a mollion dollars!

Jeremey, take care and keep away from the J-band

[Jeremey]

I will share this. When in California, JT fielded 2 calls from Herbie Herbert while I was around. Both times he said he'd call Herbie back, but he laughed at one point and said, "Yeah, like deja vu all over again, huh?" The first thing that crossed my mind was Kevin Chalfant and Trial By Fire. I guess we'll find out soon enough though.

Hey Jeremey,

Thanks for the info. At the risk of sounding like a complete dork, who is JT?

Journey's tour manager/operations manager and general jack of all trades.

[finalfight]

Sorry, another spelling error, I meant heaRt, which I am conviced that Jeremey has

Thanks for the kind words, Talisma!

I just read your blog:
"anyway, the dealbreaker was my relationship with my wife and my family. i was told after a band meeting to arrive on my own for a sit-down before working on some demos. i was surprised to hear that neal was completely freaked out by my wife all week."

Damned it,
Isn't the family the only thing that counts????
Everything els is just ...nothing.
I hope you and your wife are well and man, having a child is the best thing that can happen.
When me and my wife had our daughter, well , that was the best day in my life:
I wouldn't change that day for a mollion dollars!

Jeremey, take care and keep away from the J-band

Hey Jeremey,

I knew it - Schon can not be trusted around beautiful women, he probably would have had trouble concentrating whilst having to deal with the concept of love or a long-term relationship! He's like an Ompah Loompa in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory!

[ProgRocker53]

If all of this turns out to be another hoax or rumor i'm gonna be heartbroken..

...this would be a dream come true.. i'm ecstatic..

[belar]

I'll believe this when I'm sitting at a show watching Perry perform. Anything less, not a chance.

[finalfight]

I'll believe this when I'm sitting at a show watching Perry perform. Anything less, not a chance.

If Perry performs you will be the only one sitting.

[LazzMan]

So Journey is either in the studio right now with Arnel Pineda or Steve Perry. Could there be any other cliffhanger to see what twist fate turns on? If it's Arnel, it's business as usual, and we go right back to the old bickering and bashing, but this time with race baiting thrown in for good measure. If it's Perry, there will be flowers, peace and light, and Journey fans can once again hold hands and sing Kum Ba Ya. Man, nothing against Arnel, but I'm sure hoping for the latter.

When Perry said that he had "no such plans whatsoever" to return to Journey back in June, that could have been his feeling at that time. They may have been talking but, at that point, Steve wasn't seeing the numbers he wanted and wasn't in a position to commit. They were too far apart and Steve thought it wasn't going to happen so, he squashed the rumors in order to have a peaceful summer. They bring in Jeremey and then Arnel as "plan-B's" (no offense to Jeremey or Arnel) while they continue to talk to Perry. Pictures surface with Arnel but, that could have simply been a scrapbook photo that got leaked. It has been months since we've heard anything official from Journey about anything even though Arnel has been rumored to be in the works for quite some time. If he was the guy, we should have heard by now. That also might explain why Jeremey got the whole "Steve Perry magic" thing from Neal and why he felt uneasy about the situation and followed his instincts and turned the deal down.

On many levels it all makes some sense. On the other hand...

[AR]

For the record...

Wasn't DLR quoted as saying there'd be no way in hell he'd ever tour with VH again, two or three months before the new tour was announced?

Nope. Dave always said it was inevitable.

Saw them last night. Very enjoyable.

[finalfight]

I will share this. When in California, JT fielded 2 calls from Herbie Herbert while I was around. Both times he said he'd call Herbie back, but he laughed at one point and said, "Yeah, like deja vu all over again, huh?" The first thing that crossed my mind was Kevin Chalfant and Trial By Fire. I guess we'll find out soon enough though.

Hey Jeremey,

Thanks for the info. At the risk of sounding like a complete dork, who is JT?

Journey's tour manager/operations manager and general jack of all trades.

Brilliant, thanks.

Hence the Jack of all Trades eh!

[Talisma]

So Journey is either in the studio right now with Arnel Pineda or Steve Perry. Could there be any other cliffhanger to see what twist fate turns on? If it's Arnel, it's business as usual, and we go right back to the old bickering and bashing, but this time with race baiting thrown in for good measure. If it's Perry, there will be flowers, peace and light, and Journey fans can once again hold hands and sing Kum Ba Ya. Man, nothing against Arnel, but I'm sure hoping for the latter.

When Perry said that he had "no such plans whatsoever" to return to Journey back in June, that could have been his feeling at that time. They may have been talking but, at that point, Steve wasn't seeing the numbers he wanted and wasn't in a position to commit. They were too far apart and Steve thought it wasn't going to happen so, he squashed the rumors in order to have a peaceful summer. They bring in Jeremey and then Arnel as "plan-B's" (no offense to Jeremey or Arnel) while they continue to talk to Perry. Pictures surface with Arnel but, that could have simply been a scrapbook photo that got leaked. It has been months since we've heard anything official from Journey about anything even though Arnel has been rumored to be in the works for quite some time. If he was the guy, we should have heard by now. That also might explain why Jeremey got the whole "Steve Perry magic" thing from Neal and why he felt uneasy about the situation and followed his instincts and turned the deal down.

On many levels it all makes some sense. On the other hand...

I think "no such plans whatsoever" is still the thing that counts.
Beatles "Let it be" is sooooo valid.

[ohsherrie]

I'll believe this when I'm sitting at a show watching Perry perform. Anything less, not a chance.

I'm right there with you.

[bluejeangirl76]

I'll believe this when I'm sitting at a show watching Perry perform. Anything less, not a chance.

I'm right there with you.

Exactly.

(and even then I won't believe it, but for different reasons!! ROFL!)

[StoneCold]

IF this happens, you can bet that Fresno would be on that schedule, given it's only an hour give or take from Perry's hometown, and Journey was HUGE here back in the day.....and your happy ass had better be here!

No way.

If they do this, they won't stop in Fresno, not even for bus fuel. They will do big markets. There isn't an arena in Fresno that they could play. That place at University of Fresno is too small. They would do Staples or the Pond in LA, and then to the Bay Area for shows. You people in cow towns and outposts won't get a sniff. This won't be a Carnival and Hot dog Fair tour if it comes true.

The payday for a tour like this would shorten up a tour schedule considerably. No longer a need to cover all the small market coliseums and stretch it out over 6 months. Hit the big stops and give Mr P plenty of rest between shows and they'll do fine.

Fresno WILL absolutely be on the tour schedule. In fact, they may have to do more than one night there. The first show will be sold out, that's a fact. The SaveMart Center has handled concerts for Madonna, Aerosmith, Gwen Stefani and other big names so for Perry it will be a "CASH COW" town.

I seriously doubt this "reunion" rumor will play out but if it does, they'll definitely play Fresno. I'll be making a trip up there.

[RedWingFan]

I'll believe this when I'm sitting at a show watching Perry perform. Anything less, not a chance.

I'm right there with you.

You gotta believe to buy a ticket before you can sit in that seat.

[StoneCold]

Which is what Van Halen is doing. Look at their schedule. They never play consecutive nights.

Who is Van Halen's manager again?

Oh yeah, Irving Azoff!

And by the way, when I was at dinner with Azoff & company, he and Neal were discussing Van Halen and at that point, they still hadn't confirmed Dave coming back in completely. That was June, and VH is already on tour.

Dude, dinner with Neal, Azoff and company? That's your next BLOG article!

You were the fly on the wall that night!

[annie89509]

All this speculation . It could be euphoria or another big letdown ! The smokescreen and poker-playing comments remind me of the Journey saga back around 1991 when it was learned that SP is back in the studio ready to sing again, but only wanted to go solo (not with Journey). The Journey guys then got together with Kevin Chalifant (and Greg Rolie), saying they were going to re-form (with or without SP). Well, we know how it played out. SP did his solo thing and went back to Journey.--leaving poor Kevin out in the cold.

Now fast forward to this year. It has been confirmed that SP lost weight, practicing the scales, writing and going into the studio. Jeff gets fired for no good reason. They tried out Jeremey, then Arnel when there are dozens of more established and better known singers out there that would have been a better fit. Why, if not to force SP's hand?

The most likely scenario, my best guess, is that Neal & Jon realized it was a big mistake (after seeing the fan fallout) and asked Jeff back. They're going through with their original plans to record a new album and tour on it next year.

But IF it is SP, I'll be falling all over myself, abandoning my family and business, planning for the concert road trip of a lifetime! There goes our retirement savings. Wonder if hubby will understand?