Another Odd Festival For Journey

[wildcat75]

Other than Edge of the Blade and Dead or Alive, what do they have to put in the setlist that would work for these crowds?

Weird.

Chain Reaction, Keep On Runnin, Where Were You, Wheel, Line of Fire, Sep Ways, Troubled Child, Rubicon, Out of Harm's Way, Winds of March, and some old classics like Kohoutek, Of a Lifetime, Topaz etc.

Plenty of songs, really. Give Neal more face time, much of the crowd will love it, guaranteed.

As long as there is no mention of faded photographs, sad cafes or forever yours, they should be okay.

hahaha!!!!!!!! Gunbot, you cracked me up!!! Yeah , as long as there's no more cheesy music, i want Journey to play more rock this time.

[Don]

Other than Edge of the Blade and Dead or Alive, what do they have to put in the setlist that would work for these crowds?

Weird.

Chain Reaction, Keep On Runnin, Where Were You, Wheel, Line of Fire, Sep Ways, Troubled Child, Rubicon, Out of Harm's Way, Winds of March, and some old classics like Kohoutek, Of a Lifetime, Topaz etc.

Plenty of songs, really. Give Neal more face time, much of the crowd will love it, guaranteed.

As long as there is no mention of faded photographs, sad cafes or forever yours, they should be okay.

hahaha!!!!!!!! Gunbot, you cracked me up!!! Yeah , as long as there's no more cheesy music, i want Journey to play more rock this time.

Arnel will thank me for it later. His voice will last twice as long if they did this instead of having him singing those high note ballads all the time.

[wildcat75]

These dudes look like they might kidnap Arnel and sell him to some shopkeeper in Yugoslavia. Neal and Jon better keep their eyes peeled.

OMG! Gunbot, they looks so scary , hahaha!!!!!!!!!, they can easily thrown Arnel on the crowd if he didn't rock !! LOL!! Just kidding!!!!

[mdaemon]

These dudes look like they might kidnap Arnel and sell him to some shopkeeper in Yugoslavia. Neal and Jon better keep their eyes peeled.

OMG! Gunbot, they looks so scary , hahaha!!!!!!!!!, they can easily thrown Arnel on the crowd if he didn't rock !! LOL!! Just kidding!!!!

These guys need make up to look as if they've just come out of their graves. Ross on the other hand...

[Don]

These dudes look like they might kidnap Arnel and sell him to some shopkeeper in Yugoslavia. Neal and Jon better keep their eyes peeled.

OMG! Gunbot, they looks so scary , hahaha!!!!!!!!!, they can easily thrown Arnel on the crowd if he didn't rock !! LOL!! Just kidding!!!!

These guys need make up to look as if they've just come out of their graves. Ross on the other hand...

Ross doesn't have that Van Helsing accent though.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

JSS would have had this crowd eating out of his hand. Pineda won't.

well, JSS would have drawn the crowd for sure. Jboyz may have misstepped on this count.

I'm not so sure JSS would spit in their face. It is bad timing for sure as he is promoting the BM cd now, so he would refuse for that reason for sure. JSS has another project in the works, per the ARfm interview, that he is delaying promoting in favor of the BM release so I doubt that he would let something else slide in.

ps, JSS ALWAYS has the crowd eating out of his hand. and the JSS crowds in Europe are huge, not like here.

[Rick]

JSS would have had this crowd eating out of his hand. Pineda won't.

well, JSS would have drawn the crowd for sure. Jboyz may have misstepped on this count.

I'm not so sure JSS would spit in their face. It is bad timing for sure as he is promoting the BM cd now, so he would refuse for that reason for sure. JSS has another project in the works, per the ARfm interview, that he is delaying promoting in favor of the BM release so I doubt that he would let something else slide in.

ps, JSS ALWAYS has the crowd eating out of his hand. and the JSS crowds in Europe are huge, not like here.

That pisses me off too. He doesn't draw well here, so we don't get many shows to go to. Hopefully the thing with Rocklahoma will happen and he'll do dates in the US. I don't think I'm up for Rocklahoma though. My mom used to live in Pryor though, would be cool to see that town again.

[RocknRoll]

I actually don't think it is a mis-step. When I saw Journey follow Alice Cooper at Monsters of Rock with Augeri, all the goth kids knew all the words to the songs and really got into the show. I'm betting there are a lot of heavy metal fans that still appreciate Journey music. The question is would it be better with JSS since he is better known in Europe or AP who can definately sing the music? I'm betting Journey will definately keep the audience.

[Rick]

I actually don't think it is a mis-step. When I saw Journey follow Alice Cooper at Monsters of Rock with Augeri, all the goth kids knew all the words to the songs and really got into the show. I'm betting there are a lot of heavy metal fans that still appreciate Journey music. The question is would it be better with JSS since he is better known in Europe or AP who can definately sing the music? I'm betting Journey will definately keep the audience.

I loved the idea of getting JSS to front Journey in Europe. I know he wouldn't do it, but the idea was cool. Not taking anything away from Arnel, as I think he's fantastic and deserves the job, but I sure loved seeing Jeff in Journey. He is a true showman.

[RocknRoll]

I actually don't think it is a mis-step. When I saw Journey follow Alice Cooper at Monsters of Rock with Augeri, all the goth kids knew all the words to the songs and really got into the show. I'm betting there are a lot of heavy metal fans that still appreciate Journey music. The question is would it be better with JSS since he is better known in Europe or AP who can definately sing the music? I'm betting Journey will definately keep the audience.

I loved the idea of getting JSS to front Journey in Europe. I know he wouldn't do it, but the idea was cool. Not taking anything away from Arnel, as I think he's fantastic and deserves the job, but I sure loved seeing Jeff in Journey. He is a true showman.

I still love JSS and he did such a great job with Journey. But I think at these big festivals it's all about Journey music and maybe a little new music. I don't think JSS would have made a difference in these festival type shows. Arnel will do just fine.

[Rick]

I actually don't think it is a mis-step. When I saw Journey follow Alice Cooper at Monsters of Rock with Augeri, all the goth kids knew all the words to the songs and really got into the show. I'm betting there are a lot of heavy metal fans that still appreciate Journey music. The question is would it be better with JSS since he is better known in Europe or AP who can definately sing the music? I'm betting Journey will definately keep the audience.

I loved the idea of getting JSS to front Journey in Europe. I know he wouldn't do it, but the idea was cool. Not taking anything away from Arnel, as I think he's fantastic and deserves the job, but I sure loved seeing Jeff in Journey. He is a true showman.

I still love JSS and he did such a great job with Journey. But I think at these big festivals it's all about Journey music and maybe a little new music. I don't think JSS would have made a difference in these festival type shows. Arnel will do just fine.

Yep, he sure will. Can't wait for some new You Tubes of the boys.

[Don]

I actually don't think it is a mis-step. When I saw Journey follow Alice Cooper at Monsters of Rock with Augeri, all the goth kids knew all the words to the songs and really got into the show. I'm betting there are a lot of heavy metal fans that still appreciate Journey music. The question is would it be better with JSS since he is better known in Europe or AP who can definately sing the music? I'm betting Journey will definately keep the audience.

I loved the idea of getting JSS to front Journey in Europe. I know he wouldn't do it, but the idea was cool. Not taking anything away from Arnel, as I think he's fantastic and deserves the job, but I sure loved seeing Jeff in Journey. He is a true showman.

I still love JSS and he did such a great job with Journey. But I think at these big festivals it's all about Journey music and maybe a little new music. I don't think JSS would have made a difference in these festival type shows. Arnel will do just fine.

Yep, he sure will. Can't wait for some new You Tubes of the boys.

Please don't start referring to them as Arnel and the J-Boyz, I can't handle that NKOTB shit.

[Rick]

I actually don't think it is a mis-step. When I saw Journey follow Alice Cooper at Monsters of Rock with Augeri, all the goth kids knew all the words to the songs and really got into the show. I'm betting there are a lot of heavy metal fans that still appreciate Journey music. The question is would it be better with JSS since he is better known in Europe or AP who can definately sing the music? I'm betting Journey will definately keep the audience.

I loved the idea of getting JSS to front Journey in Europe. I know he wouldn't do it, but the idea was cool. Not taking anything away from Arnel, as I think he's fantastic and deserves the job, but I sure loved seeing Jeff in Journey. He is a true showman.

I still love JSS and he did such a great job with Journey. But I think at these big festivals it's all about Journey music and maybe a little new music. I don't think JSS would have made a difference in these festival type shows. Arnel will do just fine.

Yep, he sure will. Can't wait for some new You Tubes of the boys.

Please don't start referring to them as Arnel and the J-Boyz, I can't handle that NKOTB shit.

Me either.

[Voyager]

It's going to be a huge whiplash going from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tqxtEFAJEU

to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVobtub--Wg

[twinklestar]

Other than Edge of the Blade and Dead or Alive, what do they have to put in the setlist that would work for these crowds?

Weird.

Chain Reaction, Keep On Runnin, Where Were You, Wheel, Line of Fire, Sep Ways, Troubled Child, Rubicon, Out of Harm's Way, Winds of March, and some old classics like Kohoutek, Of a Lifetime, Topaz etc.

Plenty of songs, really. Give Neal more face time, much of the crowd will love it, guaranteed.

As long as there is no mention of faded photographs, sad cafes or forever yours, they should be okay.

[WykkedSensation]

Am i the only one who don't want Journey to change their sound, and rock harder.
Journey music is all about melody. Have people forgotten that. Its how they made the money and its how they became the band they were/are.
They are not a fuckin hard rock/metal band, and they shouldn't try to change now. They are all too fuckin old to start that shit for a start off.
Red 13 and Generations were heavier, and they fell flat on their fuckin asses with those releases. They DID NOT bring in any new fans, but probably lost fuckin loads in the process.
They have released Revelation and it sold well, very well, was raved about left right and fuckin center, especially on this board, and now some of you are sayin the same ol shit all over again, rock harder. Fuck rock harder. Be fuckin Journey, and continue with the sound that made you great.
They DO NOT belong at this festival and will get serious shit dealt their way from the audience there. 'Rock harder', NO PLEASE DON'T.

[Behshad]

It's going to be a huge madsplash going from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tqxtEFAJEU

to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVobtub--Wg

[Don]

Am i the only one who don't want Journey to change their sound, and rock harder.
Journey music is all about melody. Have people forgotten that. Its how they made the money and its how they became the band they were/are.
They are not a fuckin hard rock/metal band, and they shouldn't try to change now. They are all too fuckin old to start that shit for a start off.
Red 13 and Generations were heavier, and they fell flat on their fuckin asses with those releases. They DID NOT bring in any new fans, but probably lost fuckin loads in the process.
They have released Revelation and it sold well, very well, was raved about left right and fuckin center, especially on this board, and now some of you are sayin the same ol shit all over again, rock harder. Fuck rock harder. Be fuckin Journey, and continue with the sound that made you great.
They DO NOT belong at this festival and will get serious shit dealt their way from the audience there. 'Rock harder', NO PLEASE DON'T.

They've made millions, they've sold millions. They can do what ever they want right now. I love the idea of them rocking harder. They're close to retirement age, why not make music for themselves for a change. Though, You're right about this festival. If they're gonna have Faithfully or Open Arms in the setlist, Arnel better being be wearing a hardhat. Journey actually got booed at the first concert I saw them at, on the Tattoo You tour at JFK, not a pleasant experience for them, I'm sure. I hope Arnel doesn't take it personally if there are a few Scandinavian Hecklers out there.

[Ehwmatt]

Am i the only one who don't want Journey to change their sound, and rock harder.
Journey music is all about melody. Have people forgotten that. Its how they made the money and its how they became the band they were/are.
They are not a fuckin hard rock/metal band, and they shouldn't try to change now. They are all too fuckin old to start that shit for a start off.
Red 13 and Generations were heavier, and they fell flat on their fuckin asses with those releases. They DID NOT bring in any new fans, but probably lost fuckin loads in the process.
They have released Revelation and it sold well, very well, was raved about left right and fuckin center, especially on this board, and now some of you are sayin the same ol shit all over again, rock harder. Fuck rock harder. Be fuckin Journey, and continue with the sound that made you great.
They DO NOT belong at this festival and will get serious shit dealt their way from the audience there. 'Rock harder', NO PLEASE DON'T.

It's not like they are setting out to write all-new heavy material, at least not that we know of. For those of us who have seen them a bunch of times and seen them play the same old setlist, it'd be cool to see them throw in some deeper, heavier cuts that they already have in their catalog at a few shows.

[Art Vandelay]

Does Journey hold any credibility with the fans of these other bands? Chances are their set will be one long piss break for everyone else.

[Don]

Does Journey hold any credibility with the fans of these other bands? Chances are their set will be one long piss break for everyone else.

Some of our members are assuring us that Journey will rock the house and a lot of these groups have closeted Journey fans amongst them.
So no worries, mate.

[Ehwmatt]

Does Journey hold any credibility with the fans of these other bands? Chances are their set will be one long piss break for everyone else.

Some of our members are assuring us that Journey will rock the house and a lot of these groups have closeted Journey fans amongst them.
So no worries, mate.

All I know is that Dream Theater will bring tons of fans to the festival and many, many prog-metal fans enjoy Toto, Journey, Styx, Kansas etc a lot. I'm one of those people!

[Art Vandelay]

Does Journey hold any credibility with the fans of these other bands? Chances are their set will be one long piss break for everyone else.

Some of our members are assuring us that Journey will rock the house and a lot of these groups have closeted Journey fans amongst them.
So no worries, mate.

All I know is that Dream Theater will bring tons of fans to the festival and many, many prog-metal fans enjoy Toto, Journey, Styx, Kansas etc a lot. I'm one of those people!

Well then, onward and upward!

[WykkedSensation]

Am i the only one who don't want Journey to change their sound, and rock harder.
Journey music is all about melody. Have people forgotten that. Its how they made the money and its how they became the band they were/are.
They are not a fuckin hard rock/metal band, and they shouldn't try to change now. They are all too fuckin old to start that shit for a start off.
Red 13 and Generations were heavier, and they fell flat on their fuckin asses with those releases. They DID NOT bring in any new fans, but probably lost fuckin loads in the process.
They have released Revelation and it sold well, very well, was raved about left right and fuckin center, especially on this board, and now some of you are sayin the same ol shit all over again, rock harder. Fuck rock harder. Be fuckin Journey, and continue with the sound that made you great.
They DO NOT belong at this festival and will get serious shit dealt their way from the audience there. 'Rock harder', NO PLEASE DON'T.

It's not like they are setting out to write all-new heavy material, at least not that we know of. For those of us who have seen them a bunch of times and seen them play the same old setlist, it'd be cool to see them throw in some deeper, heavier cuts that they already have in their catalog at a few shows.

I agree with throwing in some heavier cuts in a live setting, i didn't mean stick to the dirty dozen when they play live. I would not like Journey to sell out what they have stood for all these years when recording.
And Gunbot, Arnel will definately need his hard hat when they play there, the band are on completely the wrong show there, no matter what they play.

[Don]

Am i the only one who don't want Journey to change their sound, and rock harder.
Journey music is all about melody. Have people forgotten that. Its how they made the money and its how they became the band they were/are.
They are not a fuckin hard rock/metal band, and they shouldn't try to change now. They are all too fuckin old to start that shit for a start off.
Red 13 and Generations were heavier, and they fell flat on their fuckin asses with those releases. They DID NOT bring in any new fans, but probably lost fuckin loads in the process.
They have released Revelation and it sold well, very well, was raved about left right and fuckin center, especially on this board, and now some of you are sayin the same ol shit all over again, rock harder. Fuck rock harder. Be fuckin Journey, and continue with the sound that made you great.
They DO NOT belong at this festival and will get serious shit dealt their way from the audience there. 'Rock harder', NO PLEASE DON'T.

It's not like they are setting out to write all-new heavy material, at least not that we know of. For those of us who have seen them a bunch of times and seen them play the same old setlist, it'd be cool to see them throw in some deeper, heavier cuts that they already have in their catalog at a few shows.

I agree with throwing in some heavier cuts in a live setting, i didn't mean stick to the dirty dozen when they play live. I would not like Journey to sell out what they have stood for all these years when recording.
And Gunbot, Arnel will definately need his hard hat when they play there, the band are on completely the wrong show there, no matter what they play.

Someone, tell the plokkers so they can give AP a heads up the next time he's in the Shout Box.

This one looks pretty cool actually.

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interesting..i guess there will be new audience for Journey..some great bands in there too, except for Lauren Harris

[stevew2]

I actually don't think it is a mis-step. When I saw Journey follow Alice Cooper at Monsters of Rock with Augeri, all the goth kids knew all the words to the songs and really got into the show. I'm betting there are a lot of heavy metal fans that still appreciate Journey music. The question is would it be better with JSS since he is better known in Europe or AP who can definately sing the music? I'm betting Journey will definately keep the audience.

Them kids were lipping right along with Journey

[Behshad]

Am i the only one who don't want Journey to change their sound, and rock harder.
Journey music is all about melody. Have people forgotten that. Its how they made the money and its how they became the band they were/are.
They are not a fuckin hard rock/metal band, and they shouldn't try to change now. They are all too fuckin old to start that shit for a start off.
Red 13 and Generations were heavier, and they fell flat on their fuckin asses with those releases. They DID NOT bring in any new fans, but probably lost fuckin loads in the process.
They have released Revelation and it sold well, very well, was raved about left right and fuckin center, especially on this board, and now some of you are sayin the same ol shit all over again, rock harder. Fuck rock harder. Be fuckin Journey, and continue with the sound that made you great.
They DO NOT belong at this festival and will get serious shit dealt their way from the audience there. 'Rock harder', NO PLEASE DON'T.

It's not like they are setting out to write all-new heavy material, at least not that we know of. For those of us who have seen them a bunch of times and seen them play the same old setlist, it'd be cool to see them throw in some deeper, heavier cuts that they already have in their catalog at a few shows.

I agree with throwing in some heavier cuts in a live setting, i didn't mean stick to the dirty dozen when they play live. I would not like Journey to sell out what they have stood for all these years when recording.
And Gunbot, Arnel will definately need his hard hat when they play there, the band are on completely the wrong show there, no matter what they play.

Someone, tell the plokkers so they can give AP a heads up the next time he's in the Shout Box.

This one looks pretty cool actually.

That helmet goes PERFECT with Neal's new look