Perry on Soto

[tammy]

Deb and Tammy already aluded to this, and as I recall, JSS posted a long story (on the BackTalk forum) detailing his personal encounter with SP from years past while Jeff was just starting out in the business. The post was right before or after Jeff was hired as the LS, I don't remember which, but he said he was posting the story to offset the predominately negativity toward SP on that board. Remember, this was Journey's official fansite of the SA era, and the wigglers outnumbered the loons 5-to-1, and the factions were constantly engaged in war.

As Deb and Tammy corrected stated, Jeff was very complimentary of their 1st encounter, how they talked about Jeff's just released 1st record and he was going to send a copy to Steve but forgot to ask for his address. Then, they ran into each other some months later, and Steve proceeded to tell him how much he (Steve) liked his (Jeff's) work. Jeff said it did occurred to him that Steve was just throwing out empty compliments, but then, there were things Steve said he liked (and somethings that could be improved) about the record that he would have to actually have listened to it to know....which really made his day because his Hero actually went and sought out his record, gave it a good listen, and now giving him some constructive, and favorable, critique.

This is what I remembered about the story, and no way can anyone say this SP mention about knowing JSS's work is "bs."

I think I kinda remember now...when SP met Jeff early in his career and complimented him, Jeff said he'd send SP his CD and so Steve gave him his address...Jeff accidently washed his jeans with the address in it and it was destroyed!? Then later Steve saw Jeff again and said he had already bought Jeff's CD. I'm sure Jeff recalls it better. lol.

[The_Noble_Cause]

What would most people say after someone just told you "he's one of my best friends in the whole world" , and your being interviewed?

He's Steve Perry. He doesn't feel the need to kiss any other vocalist's ass - much less one that took his spot in the band. If he praised JSS, he clearly means it.

[Saint John]

What would most people say after someone just told you "he's one of my best friends in the whole world" , and your being interviewed?

He's Steve Perry. He doesn't feel the need to kiss any other vocalist's ass - much less one that took his spot in the band. If he praised JSS, he clearly means it.

You're a moron. He clearly, and pre-knowingly, had that answer in the can. And you know that.

[Saint John]

What would most people say after someone just told you "he's one of my best friends in the whole world" , and your being interviewed?

He's Steve Perry. He doesn't feel the need to kiss any other vocalist's ass - much less one that took his spot in the band. If he praised JSS, he clearly means it.

You're a moron. He clearly, and pre-knowingly, had that answer in the can. And you know that.

[AR]

Steve Perry called Soto a hubcap thief (from a deleted post)

[The_Noble_Cause]

You're a moron. He clearly, and pre-knowingly, had that answer in the can. And you know that.

No I don't. Perry usually won't even touch the subject of Journey singers. I'm surprised he even mentioned that the three other guys existed.

[YoungJRNY]

So lemme get this straight. Perry was absolutely pissed off that the band continued on their legacy sound with Augeri and gave the "Don't fracture the stone" statement but turns around and says the band Journey, who is playing in HIS HONOR and his legacy sound, THEIR SOUND, everything that they've worked so hard to create, turn around and go with a person that sounds nothing like what they created for "personal growth?" Makes no sense. Journey wasn't going anywhere with personal growth when it came to Soto. Maybe in 1998, but not in 2008. Everyone that is ever associated with this band anymore wants to hear the legacy sound and voice that started it all, and that's honor to Perry and the high tenor for their custom music and capabilities. Having Soto on a new record would of flopped more than ever because quite frankly, looked what happened to Eclipse and that is a classic example of new sound and great musicianship and it didn't push any sales. Soto's voice wouldn't of been connected to the name "Journey" whatsoever. Journey had no intentions of going in a different, personal growth direction. They got their crowd and would have played the dirty dozen, nostalgia act with Soto anyhow. Why not go with the classic, tenor voice that people associate themselves with when the word Journey is mentioned?

[slucero]

If most of us think he's lying about not hearing the other two singers part, isn't it just remotely possible he's lying about other parts in the comment as well?

Why not just take what he said on face value....all of you....and move on.

Drew... you'll never shut em up... you'll have to close the forum... or boot em..

[annie89509]

Haha... ...we all don't have a life...move on...

[Yoda]

So lemme get this straight. Perry was absolutely pissed off that the band continued on their legacy sound with Augeri and gave the "Don't fracture the stone" statement but turns around and says the band Journey, who is playing in HIS HONOR and his legacy sound, THEIR SOUND, everything that they've worked so hard to create, turn around and go with a person that sounds nothing like what they created for "personal growth?" Makes no sense.

What a minute now. I've never heard Neal Schon or Jonathan Cain say that they're continuing Journey to honor Steve Perry. While it's nice to assume that would be the reason why they are continuing on, we all know that is a bunch of crap. Neal said it himself that touring is what pays the bills - and if they're not going to have Steve Perry out on tour with them, their going to want the next best - sure thing! Someone who can cover the classic songs as closely to the tone and tenor of Perry as possible. You're telling me you cannot understand how Perry would not feel insulted by a band who he poured his heart and soul into that basically says [by their actions] that they're going to go out and find someone who sounds just like him? You know it says to him that all we cared about was the voice, that all other intangible contributions Perry made in creating that Journey legacy means nothing. I can see exactly why Perry would have been pissed. Make no mistake about it, no matter who Journey got to replace Perry in 1998, Steve would have been angry and upset. But you need to keep the interview in the context in which it was presented. Perry is speaking in terms of present day now. He's had time to let those wounds heal and let go of that anger he felt toward Neal and Jon for moving on without him. And, the fact that he now can say, "You know, I NOW understand why they wanted to move on." Let's not leave that part out of it. As far as the personal growth of it - compare Jeff's musical resume in the past 20+ years to Augeri's and Pineda's. Mind you, I am in no way insulting those guys - I love them both and love what they have brought to Journey - but Jeff has the better resume as it pertains to a complete artist, not just a singer.

Journey wasn't going anywhere with personal growth when it came to Soto. Maybe in 1998, but not in 2008. Everyone that is ever associated with this band anymore wants to hear the legacy sound and voice that started it all, and that's honor to Perry and the high tenor for their custom music and capabilities. Having Soto on a new record would of flopped more than ever because quite frankly, looked what happened to Eclipse and that is a classic example of new sound and great musicianship and it didn't push any sales. Soto's voice wouldn't of been connected to the name "Journey" whatsoever. Journey had no intentions of going in a different, personal growth direction. They got their crowd and would have played the dirty dozen, nostalgia act with Soto anyhow. Why not go with the classic, tenor voice that people associate themselves with when the word Journey is mentioned?

I understand where you are coming from with this part, and I agree with you on many parts of this. The truth is, Journey, despite releasing a couple of new albums, know that their sure thing is the dirty dozen. So yes, in that respect, I can see wanting a singer who is going to basically be as close to Steve Perry as possible. The new music is merely just to keep the hardcore fans interested. We see evidence of this by how poorly promoted the new album was. But, in my opinion, if Journey truly wanted to write new music, play new music (which they hardly have), and get behind a new direction, Jeff would have been the strongest among the three to have put together great music. Merely my opinion and you can agree or disagree - I respect you either way. But, having listened and purchased a lot of Jeff's stuff long before Journey - I recognized how great of an AOR artist he is.

[YoungJRNY]

What a minute now. I've never heard Neal Schon or Jonathan Cain say that they're continuing Journey to honor Steve Perry.

There's been multiple times, more than once or twice, where Cain AND Schon sat there and said that they needed to go back to their distinguished sound when finding a new lead singer and go more into the direction of who they are rather than what they were becoming with Soto on vocals. I love Soto's voice. In fact, I think, by far, W.E.T is my favorite album and CAN'T WAIT for W.E.T deuce. But with Soto in the lineup, I can understand he could sing the dirty dozen if need be but as far as a new record, the brand Journey would of been nowhere in sight and that ship of going in a new direction "VH style" was long gone. 1998 should have been the year if they wanted to try it but once Soto was hired for Journey, the guys automatically right away decided that their sound was needed if they wanted to be JOURNEY then that's a high tenor key & written for Steve Perry's vocal range and pitch. Anything else simply wouldn't work with the Journey name on it. Soto is more of an independent singer anyhow. I love his work. Like I said, W.E.T II is highly anticipated for me. I think I like him more NOW more so than his brief time with Journey because Journey music is Journey music. I want JOURNEY to sound like Journey. As they've always been. JSS is his own sound so when I'm in the mood, I like JSS and then Journey as two separate entities.

[Yoda]

What a minute now. I've never heard Neal Schon or Jonathan Cain say that they're continuing Journey to honor Steve Perry.

There's been multiple times, more than once or twice, where Cain AND Schon sat there and said that they needed to go back to their distinguished sound when finding a new lead singer and go more into the direction of who they are rather than what they were becoming with Soto on vocals. I love Soto's voice. In fact, I think, by far, W.E.T is my favorite album and CAN'T WAIT for W.E.T deuce. But with Soto in the lineup, I can understand he could sing the dirty dozen if need be but as far as a new record, the brand Journey would of been nowhere in sight and that ship of going in a new direction "VH style" was long gone. 1998 should have been the year if they wanted to try it but once Soto was hired for Journey, the guys automatically right away decided that their sound was needed if they wanted to be JOURNEY then that's a high tenor key & written for Steve Perry's vocal range and pitch. Anything else simply wouldn't work with the Journey name on it. Soto is more of an independent singer anyhow. I love his work. Like I said, W.E.T II is highly anticipated for me. I think I like him more NOW more so than his brief time with Journey because Journey music is Journey music. I want JOURNEY to sound like Journey. As they've always been. JSS is his own sound so when I'm in the mood, I like JSS and then Journey as two separate entities.

Understood. And I absolutely agree that the right time for Journey to have went in a completely different direction - vocally wise - was in 1998. And I believe that is what Steve Perry was trying to say in his interview. But understand that Neal and Jon recognizing a "legacy sound" in the vocals is not necessarily them doing so to honor one Steve Perry. It's an attempt to replicate the tone of those vocals enough to where it sounds similar to the albums in a live setting. Now, unless I've missed said interview, neither Cain nor Schon ever said anything about finding someone who sounds like Steve Perry to honor Steve Perry. In my opinion, it doesn't honor Perry. To me, if Neal and Jon really want to honor Steve Perry, they would have went out and searched for a singer who would come close as possible to matching every aspect that Perry brought to the band - not just the vocal tone of his voice. You're telling me you find someone like that from You Tube?

The truth is, Perry was a pain in their backsides a lot of times - for Jon and Neal more than likely - and especially for Herbie. However, that fight and persistence that Perry brought to the table helped to create a lot of great, timeless music that we lovingly label the "dirty dozen". That collaboration of Perry, Cain, and Schon has never been matched in my opinion. The magic those guys had in the creative process is what made Journey great in the 80's. If Perry never contributed to the music writing, never fought for songs in the band, never searched for perfection, didn't know anything about the recording process - do you think Journey would have been as good as they were back in the 80's? I don't think so! I think they would have had a few hits, and probably would have had marginal success, but I don't believe they would have been nearly the band that they became in the 80's. And I'm saying all of that to say that if Cain and Schon truly were out to honor Steve Perry - they would not have settled for merely someone who could cover the old material close to how it would sound on the record. They would have wanted someone with the same leadership, not afraid to "stick his nose in places they shouldn't", knowledgeable, protectionist, professional front man and vocalist that Perry was. Whether or not the guy would have matched the vocal tone of Perry would be an after thought. Would that have been a risk? Oh yeah - definitely! But, I think it's a risk that bands have to take if they truly want to create magical, timeless music. Now, that's not to say I don't like anything post Perry. I love everything Journey - Pre Perry, Perry era, and Post Perry stuff! But, I recognize when that band truly became the best it could ever be, and that was around the Escape and Frontiers years. I don't believe you can ever match those albums without that third great professional artist. You still have great talent with Jon Cain and Neal Schon - a lot of good material from Arrival on through Eclipse. But, in my humble opinion, none of it matches the 80's stuff. Not trying to insult Augeri nor Pineda - love both of those guys! Not necessarily saying that Jeff would even come close to matching Perry in those other aspects that I have mentioned. I'm just saying that honoring Steve Perry's contributions to the band is allowing the band the opportunity to fail completely by taking a big risk and finding someone who may not necessarily sound just like Steve Perry, but is the complete front man (or woman) in terms of song writing, vocals, leadership, and technical recording knowledge.

Of course, I did go on record before saying that out of all the singers, I would have chosen Kevin Chalfant! So, what the heck do I know?

[Gideon]

I would have chosen Kevin Chalfant! So, what the heck do I know?

More than Cain and Schon, that's for sure.

[Andrew]

What would most people say after someone just told you "he's one of my best friends in the whole world" , and your being interviewed?

He's Steve Perry. He doesn't feel the need to kiss any other vocalist's ass - much less one that took his spot in the band. If he praised JSS, he clearly means it.

You're a moron. He clearly, and pre-knowingly, had that answer in the can. And you know that.

Goodbye for now. What a load of *&^%#$#$***%$##@$&*

[parfait]

What would most people say after someone just told you "he's one of my best friends in the whole world" , and your being interviewed?

He's Steve Perry. He doesn't feel the need to kiss any other vocalist's ass - much less one that took his spot in the band. If he praised JSS, he clearly means it.

You're a moron. He clearly, and pre-knowingly, had that answer in the can. And you know that.

You know, I do get your skepticism and negativity towards Perry. All that goes to shits however when I remember the loonie ladyboy questions you sent to Perry when you had your chance. Mister Perry - what kind of kitty litter does your cat use? Do you prefer Nivea or Clinique skincare for those pesky blackheads? Dude. Stop pretending. You would've danced around in a purple harness and bottomed for Perry in a heartbeat.

Cool interview though, Andrew.

[Deb]

What would most people say after someone just told you "he's one of my best friends in the whole world" , and your being interviewed?

He's Steve Perry. He doesn't feel the need to kiss any other vocalist's ass - much less one that took his spot in the band. If he praised JSS, he clearly means it.

True that. I could give a shit how SJ wants to spin it, it is what it is. And I'll bet that made Jeff's day.......one of his biggest vocal influences praising his talents, that has to be a thrill and a half! Well deserved!

[Yoda]

I would have chosen Kevin Chalfant! So, what the heck do I know?

More than Cain and Schon, that's for sure.

[RedWingFan]

You're a moron. He clearly, and pre-knowingly, had that answer in the can. And you know that.

No I don't. Perry usually won't even touch the subject of Journey singers. I'm surprised he even mentioned that the three other guys existed.

When I read the interview, I took it the meaning that Perry was referring to the fact that Soto has the ability to write a decent song. A skill the other 2 do not have. (I didn't want Soto because I think the band needs the voice and writing)

[AR]

You're a moron. He clearly, and pre-knowingly, had that answer in the can. And you know that.

No I don't. Perry usually won't even touch the subject of Journey singers. I'm surprised he even mentioned that the three other guys existed.

When I read the interview, I took it the meaning that Perry was referring to the fact that Soto has the ability to write a decent song. A skill the other 2 do not have. (I didn't want Soto because I think the band needs the voice and writing)

Steve A writes some decent songs. Riverside is pretty good.

JSS is an excellent song writer though. Whatever went down (and I sort of know some of it), he could have been for Journey what Hagar was for Van Halen. Deen's vocals could have kept the "legacy sound" for some of the "Dirty Dozen".

[perryswoman]

You're a moron. He clearly, and pre-knowingly, had that answer in the can. And you know that.

No I don't. Perry usually won't even touch the subject of Journey singers. I'm surprised he even mentioned that the three other guys existed.

When I read the interview, I took it the meaning that Perry was referring to the fact that Soto has the ability to write a decent song. A skill the other 2 do not have. (I didn't want Soto because I think the band needs the voice and writing)

Steve A writes some decent songs. Riverside is pretty good.

JSS is an excellent song writer though. Whatever went down (and I sort of know some of it), he could have been for Journey what Hagar was for Van Halen. Deen's vocals could have kept the "legacy sound" for some of the "Dirty Dozen".

And that I would love to to have seen

[george_g]

He also did say, "I haven't heard the other two."

of course he has heard them , but he is Perry he should say that...

[donnaplease]

I agree. There's a lot of overlap between the Perry and JSS camps. The reality is that Perry loons gravitate towards JSS because he's unthreatening: even the most casual fans won't confuse JSS or compare him directly to Perry as a "sound-alike." That's comforting to loons protective of Perry's voice.

Matt, I can kinda relate to this I guess. But it's not a bad thing, IMO. As a self-professed Loon, I don't want someone to come into the band and be a copycat of what SP did. I had SP, and if I can't have the real thing, a clone won't cut it for me. (I enjoyed Augeri when I saw him, but I only went to see the band once in his tenure - I can only assume it's because what they were doing didn't pull me in as a fan.) That's what I liked about JSS. He was close enough for me to get the feel for the classic era, but different enough that I wasn't watching someone pretending to be something that they weren't and could never be, in my book. Plus he just rocked the hell outta the joint whenever I saw him perform!!!

On a related note, as someone who considers herself a friend and huge fan of Jeremey, I'm not sure how much I would've enjoyed seeing him in Journey if he would've gotten the gig. I know I would've supported him (as a friend) but at the time I was so disgusted with how everything went down with Jeff that I had no intention of seeing Journey again at a concert (and until now I haven't). It was a huge conflict for me, so in my own selfish way I'm glad he didn't get the job. (Sorry Jeremey if you're reading this... please take it in the manner it's meant. It's about the band, not you at all. )

[perryswoman]

I agree. There's a lot of overlap between the Perry and JSS camps. The reality is that Perry loons gravitate towards JSS because he's unthreatening: even the most casual fans won't confuse JSS or compare him directly to Perry as a "sound-alike." That's comforting to loons protective of Perry's voice.

Matt, I can kinda relate to this I guess. But it's not a bad thing, IMO. As a self-professed Loon, I don't want someone to come into the band and be a copycat of what SP did. I had SP, and if I can't have the real thing, a clone won't cut it for me. (I enjoyed Augeri when I saw him, but I only went to see the band once in his tenure - I can only assume it's because what they were doing didn't pull me in as a fan.) That's what I liked about JSS. He was close enough for me to get the feel for the classic era, but different enough that I wasn't watching someone pretending to be something that they weren't and could never be, in my book. Plus he just rocked the hell outta the joint whenever I saw him perform!!!

On a related note, as someone who considers herself a friend and huge fan of Jeremey, I'm not sure how much I would've enjoyed seeing him in Journey if he would've gotten the gig. I know I would've supported him (as a friend) but at the time I was so disgusted with how everything went down with Jeff that I had no intention of seeing Journey again at a concert (and until now I haven't). It was a huge conflict for me, so in my own selfish way I'm glad he didn't get the job. (Sorry Jeremey if you're reading this... please take it in the manner it's meant. It's about the band, not you at all. )

I agree with this too. He didn't sound much like Perry but could pull off enough of the songs to get by with half the dirty dozen and rest could have been new kick ass material. Jeff was just very energetic and quite the showman and luved his enthusiasm!

[perryswoman]

Listening to Soul Sirkus now. Luv them!! Too bad they didn't get to stay together long! I really like Neal and Jeff together.

[Kor'n]

I think the whole comment was bullshit. In fairness, the only one the b.s. meter went off throughout the interview. I think he was playing to the audience with that comment. I agree, I don't believe he hasn't heard the other two and I bet he doesn't know a Soto song. Soto never recorded with Journey. So, that means he has listened to Soto solo/other material? I doubt that and he hasn't heard the two who have recorded with Journey and been with them for 12 out of the last 13 years. C'Mon Man.

It’s not like Journey is all over the news, tv, etc., and don’t think he’s searching the web. If I were he, I would probably keep those “sound-alike” and their doings at a distance.

Let's look at this stuff in the right perspective. The guy admitted that he was very upset with Journey going on without him. I'm sure having the knowledge of hiring guys who would try to recreate the "Perry sound" in the vocals was something that got under his skin. .

Guess it would get under the skin of any true artist….

“I heard the new singer two weeks ago – he was amazing, and (I’m a very accomplished rock guitarist – 35 years,) there were times when I couldn’t tell it wasn’t Steve (with my eyes closed.) I’m a studio session player and have a great ear (I’m told.) Anywhen, here’s the comment – all that doesn’t matter, because STEVE DID IT FIRST – I can “copy” Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, etc. note for note (can’t tell it’s not them,) BUT…..THEY BLOW ME AWAY FOR THINKING OF “GOING THERE” IN THE FIRST PLACE – THAT’S WHERE STEVE’S GENIUS AND TALENT LIE. (Steve S. 8/11/2011)”

[I just said this to Deb ...I'm sure he's heard them, I'm sure he isn't crazy about the whole impersonation/trying to sound alike thing SOME people think they had/have going. Jeff has his own soulful style, without having to try to capture something that is unreachable.

Kinda like the “sound-alikes” take away from the integrity of his hard-work, but may have some respect for the one that has his “own style” as he said. That is definitely “growth.” If they had hung in there with Jeff till “DSB” struck maybe people would have accepted his way of singing the songs or he could just stick the mic to the audience and let them sing.

Translation: Jeff didn't have the range to draw comparisons akin to "closed my eyes and it sounded just like him!", thus Jeff threatened Perry the least. I'm not knocking JSS at all - love W.E.T. and like some of his solo stuff. But i don't see any other fair way to read the situation.

And neither do I “see any other fair way to read the situation” except this way: Augeri partook of lipping and Pineda partakes of mocking. What did JSS do? What threat was Augeri, and thought they got Pineda from YouTube with just singing talents. His words make perfect sense to me. Steve Perry seems to have a deep, kinda stubborn respect with integrity for music and artists. With that being said, I just cannot imagine his respectfully viewing a “sound-alike” or a “copycat” as an “incredible talent” no matter how talented YOU may think he is. It is just outside of the realms of artistic integrity and belongs in a “SNL” parody type thing. Would you have preferred he just say something to that effect? Did he say he never saw something coming? He seems to have expounded upon his reasons in a nice way. Brian May gave thumbs up to SP (“one in a million”) and to JSS.

You cannot blame an artist if he naturally sounds like another, but with Augeri that may not be and surely it is not with Arnel, for it seems he has been copying others hard-work for quite a while. That is an INSULT, especially to someone like SP I would think, so why expect him to toot either of those guys horns. Read Pineda’s interview from 2009, he knows the appearance of “note for note,” but did it anyway.

Steve Perry idolizes Sam Cooke, and as most artist do, take something from his idol’s style, but you don’t go in his former band and copy him. Can’t imagine SP EVER contemplating or respecting such. Guess you have to look at the “situation” from the eyes (MINE) of one who just may not think very much of any artist whose aim is to deliberately sound-alike or copy. Where is the originality? Surprise, surprise that you, seemingly an artist, do not share that view.

“They worked hard to make it their own.” SP

[Gideon]

I saw a Soto-fronted Journey in 2006. He did a great job, but the idea that he added some sort of heretofore original spin on the classics is bullshit: The pacing and phrasing of the songs were practically the same to what Augeri and Perry did before him, the only difference is that he couldn't hit the same notes, and that wasn't by choice but a consequence of Soto's lower pitch.

With the dirty dozen, there is no originality. The songs are played the same way and sang the same way {for the most part, there are always subtle differences because no singer sounds identical to another} because that's how the audience wants it.

I side with Matt on this one. Soto's abilities as a singer are formidable, but he'll never be known for a blistering range and it's the high notes that make Perry so revered among certain circles.

[AR]

I saw a Soto-fronted Journey in 2006. He did a great job, but the idea that he added some sort of heretofore original spin on the classics is bullshit: The pacing and phrasing of the songs were practically the same to what Augeri and Perry did before him, the only difference is that he couldn't hit the same notes, and that wasn't by choice but a consequence of Soto's lower pitch.

With the dirty dozen, there is no originality. The songs are played the same way and sang the same way {for the most part, there are always subtle differences because no singer sounds identical to another} because that's how the audience wants it.

I side with Matt on this one. Soto's abilities as a singer are formidable, but he'll never be known for a blistering range and it's the high notes that make Perry so revered among certain circles.

That is a great opinion.

I just thought that DC could handle the legacy stuff and Jeff certainly could do a great job as their front man.

Soto is a much better person than Schon so I am totally fucking biased though. I hate Neal. He is a dick

[Gideon]

That is a great opinion.

I just thought that DC could handle the legacy stuff and Jeff certainly could do a great job as their front man.[/b]

Jeff is a great front man and a good singer. He impressed me and my folks at Noblesville in '06, but I maintain my skepticism as to whether he could handle subsequent tours. Everyone made the right decision in moving on, Jeff included. W.E.T. kicked Revelation's ass, all things considered.

Soto is a much better person than Schon so I am totally fucking biased though. I hate Neal. He is a dick

Probably, but I don't know either of them and don't care to. To be honest, I'd rather not be where you and Deano were: Coming to the realization that some of your rock idols are assholes. Ignorance is bliss.

[AR]

That is a great opinion.

I just thought that DC could handle the legacy stuff and Jeff certainly could do a great job as their front man.[/b]

Jeff is a great front man and a good singer. He impressed me and my folks at Noblesville in '06, but I maintain my skepticism as to whether he could handle subsequent tours. Everyone made the right decision in moving on, Jeff included. W.E.T. kicked Revelation's ass, all things considered.

Soto is a much better person than Schon so I am totally fucking biased though. I hate Neal. He is a dick

Probably, but I don't know either of them and don't care to. To be honest, I'd rather not be where you and Deano were: Coming to the realization that some of your rock idols are assholes. Ignorance is bliss.

Yes.

However, Ross and Deen were really cool. Soto is great. I met Augeri recently and he is super nice. Cain is ok, but standoffish, Not too bad. Schon is a prick.

[Archetype]

That is a great opinion.

I just thought that DC could handle the legacy stuff and Jeff certainly could do a great job as their front man.[/b]

Jeff is a great front man and a good singer. He impressed me and my folks at Noblesville in '06, but I maintain my skepticism as to whether he could handle subsequent tours. Everyone made the right decision in moving on, Jeff included. W.E.T. kicked Revelation's ass, all things considered.

Soto is a much better person than Schon so I am totally fucking biased though. I hate Neal. He is a dick

Probably, but I don't know either of them and don't care to. To be honest, I'd rather not be where you and Deano were: Coming to the realization that some of your rock idols are assholes. Ignorance is bliss.

Yes.

However, Ross and Deen were really cool. Soto is great. I met Augeri recently and he is super nice. Cain is ok, but standoffish, Not too bad. Schon is a prick.

I would probably be standoffish as well if I was one of the world's most dangerous men.