Why Can't This Night....

[artist4perry]

Gideon is a cool guy.............

[Don]

Gideon is a gay guy.............

Looking at his avatar, I'd have to agree with you.

At least the dude in mine was married three times....to women too.

[artist4perry]

Gideon is a gay guy.............

Looking at his avatar, I'd have to agree with you.

At least the dude in mine was married three times....to women too.

I don't know Gunby, your av guy looks like he could be guest hosting on a interior design show. Not that anything is wrong with that!

[Jana]

Gideon is a gay guy.............

Looking at his avatar, I'd have to agree with you.

At least the dude in mine was married three times....to women too.

By the looks of him I think those three marriages might have been his beard.

[Don]

Gideon is a gay guy.............

Looking at his avatar, I'd have to agree with you.

At least the dude in mine was married three times....to women too.

I don't know Gunby, your av guy looks like he could be guest hosting on a interior design show. Not that anything is wrong with that!

Carl Sagan may have been a geek but he was a brilliant geek and quite the humanist.

[annie89509]

Is Gideon that kid Strange Medicine? ... who got kicked out last year by Andrew for being obnoxious with posters? ... not to mention flaunting his debating skills up against Andrew? lol

[Don]

Is Gideon that kid Strange Medicine? ... who got kicked out last year by Andrew for being obnoxious with posters? ... not to mention flaunting his debating skills up against Andrew? lol

I was thinking that too but Strange Medicine was more refined and would never curse from what I remember.
Of course now that he would be litttle older, his language may have gotten more colorful.

[annie89509]

Oh .... WCTNGOF ... my all-time fav Journey ballad. Can't help but get weepy every time I hear this song. The emotion Steve displayed singing this song ... laying it all out there. It's almost as if he had a premonition ... that it was to be his last song on his last album with Journey. We know TBF was not a sure deal (10 yrs into the future) ... almost an anomaly, that it happened, really.

[annie89509]

Is Gideon that kid Strange Medicine? ... who got kicked out last year by Andrew for being obnoxious with posters? ... not to mention flaunting his debating skills up against Andrew? lol

I was thinking that too but Strange Medicine was more refined and would never curse from what I remember.
Of course now that he would be litttle older, his language may have gotten more colorful.

Same age, same posting style.

[Don]

Oh .... WCTNGOF ... my all-time fav Journey ballad. Can't help but get weepy every time I hear this song. The emotion Steve displayed singing this song ... laying it all out there. It's almost as if he had a premonition ... that it was to be his last song on his last album with Journey. We know TBF was not a sure deal (10 yrs into the future) ... almost an anomaly, that it happened, really.

The supposed story behind this song is that the band had just finished their last show in Alaska for the Frontiers tour. Jon was still standing in the parking lot and everyone had taken off, going their own way with no immediate plans to see each other again. Standing there alone, Jon began lamenting that the tour was over, and being by himself started composing the song in his head. Not a love song per say, but it seems to be interpreted as one by most of the fans.

Ad now you know the rest of the story.

[Vladan]

Is Gideon that kid Strange Medicine? ... who got kicked out last year by Andrew for being obnoxious with posters? ... not to mention flaunting his debating skills up against Andrew? lol

I was thinking that too but Strange Medicine was more refined and would never curse from what I remember.
Of course now that he would be litttle older, his language may have gotten more colorful.

Same age, same posting style.

Yes, I can see a pattern emerging, although having said that - one would be inclined to believe Andrew is keeping a close eye on things. 17 years old, still in school, probably hasn't made any significant mistakes in life yet, still learning the ropes I'd say...

[annie89509]

Oh .... WCTNGOF ... my all-time fav Journey ballad. Can't help but get weepy every time I hear this song. The emotion Steve displayed singing this song ... laying it all out there. It's almost as if he had a premonition ... that it was to be his last song on his last album with Journey. We know TBF was not a sure deal (10 yrs into the future) ... almost an anomaly, that it happened, really.

The supposed story behind this song is that the band had just finished their last show in Alaska for the Frontiers tour. Jon was still standing in the parking lot and everyone had taken off, going their own way with no immediate plans to see each other again. Standing there alone, Jon began lamenting that the tour was over, and being by himself started composing the song in his head. Not a love song per say, but it seems to be interpreted as one by most of the fans.

Ad now you know the rest of the story.

No, I didn't know that ... and I thought I've heard all the stories. It does make sense ... knowing JC the way we do. Even on the ROR docu, he came across as the one wanting Journey to continue so badly. Heck, all the way to TBF, and the interviews, Jon seemed so psyched to have Journey back together. I think he relished writing songs for SP to sing. Can't help but think that Jon felt let down by Steve after the last reunion blew up in their faces.

[Andrew]

Is Gideon that kid Strange Medicine? ... who got kicked out last year by Andrew for being obnoxious with posters? ... not to mention flaunting his debating skills up against Andrew? lol

Yes, but he promises to behave this time.

[Arianddu]

Oh .... WCTNGOF ... my all-time fav Journey ballad. Can't help but get weepy every time I hear this song. The emotion Steve displayed singing this song ... laying it all out there. It's almost as if he had a premonition ... that it was to be his last song on his last album with Journey. We know TBF was not a sure deal (10 yrs into the future) ... almost an anomaly, that it happened, really.

The supposed story behind this song is that the band had just finished their last show in Alaska for the Frontiers tour. Jon was still standing in the parking lot and everyone had taken off, going their own way with no immediate plans to see each other again. Standing there alone, Jon began lamenting that the tour was over, and being by himself started composing the song in his head. Not a love song per say, but it seems to be interpreted as one by most of the fans.

Ad now you know the rest of the story.

Given that Perry wrote it, not Cain, the tale is unlikely.

[JH'sTXfan]

Is Gideon that kid Strange Medicine? ... who got kicked out last year by Andrew for being obnoxious with posters? ... not to mention flaunting his debating skills up against Andrew? lol

Yes, but he promises to behave this time.

I thought that was him, I keep wanting to call him Grasshopper. Welcome back Gideon.

[swataz]

Oh .... WCTNGOF ... my all-time fav Journey ballad. Can't help but get weepy every time I hear this song. The emotion Steve displayed singing this song ... laying it all out there. It's almost as if he had a premonition ... that it was to be his last song on his last album with Journey. We know TBF was not a sure deal (10 yrs into the future) ... almost an anomaly, that it happened, really.

The supposed story behind this song is that the band had just finished their last show in Alaska for the Frontiers tour. Jon was still standing in the parking lot and everyone had taken off, going their own way with no immediate plans to see each other again. Standing there alone, Jon began lamenting that the tour was over, and being by himself started composing the song in his head. Not a love song per say, but it seems to be interpreted as one by most of the fans.

Ad now you know the rest of the story.

Given that Perry wrote it, not Cain, the tale is unlikely.

Really? Because I remember specifically in the liner notes of I THINK Time3, Cain saying he was being sentimental when he wrote the song. My memory is far from perfect, but I remember that part...

[Arianddu]

Oh .... WCTNGOF ... my all-time fav Journey ballad. Can't help but get weepy every time I hear this song. The emotion Steve displayed singing this song ... laying it all out there. It's almost as if he had a premonition ... that it was to be his last song on his last album with Journey. We know TBF was not a sure deal (10 yrs into the future) ... almost an anomaly, that it happened, really.

The supposed story behind this song is that the band had just finished their last show in Alaska for the Frontiers tour. Jon was still standing in the parking lot and everyone had taken off, going their own way with no immediate plans to see each other again. Standing there alone, Jon began lamenting that the tour was over, and being by himself started composing the song in his head. Not a love song per say, but it seems to be interpreted as one by most of the fans.

Ad now you know the rest of the story.

Given that Perry wrote it, not Cain, the tale is unlikely.

Really? Because I remember specifically in the liner notes of I THINK Time3, Cain saying he was being sentimental when he wrote the song. My memory is far from perfect, but I remember that part...

Writing credits just Perry

[finalfight]

Really? Because I remember specifically in the liner notes of I THINK Time3, Cain saying he was being sentimental when he wrote the song. My memory is far from perfect, but I remember that part...

Cain gets sentimental everytime he looks in the mirror, opens the fridge or crosses the street. It's no biggie.

[bluejeangirl76]

Oh .... WCTNGOF ... my all-time fav Journey ballad. Can't help but get weepy every time I hear this song. The emotion Steve displayed singing this song ... laying it all out there. It's almost as if he had a premonition ... that it was to be his last song on his last album with Journey. We know TBF was not a sure deal (10 yrs into the future) ... almost an anomaly, that it happened, really.

The supposed story behind this song is that the band had just finished their last show in Alaska for the Frontiers tour. Jon was still standing in the parking lot and everyone had taken off, going their own way with no immediate plans to see each other again. Standing there alone, Jon began lamenting that the tour was over, and being by himself started composing the song in his head. Not a love song per say, but it seems to be interpreted as one by most of the fans.

Ad now you know the rest of the story.

Given that Perry wrote it, not Cain, the tale is unlikely.

Really? Because I remember specifically in the liner notes of I THINK Time3, Cain saying he was being sentimental when he wrote the song. My memory is far from perfect, but I remember that part...

Writing credits just Perry

Nope... credits are "S. Perry, J. Cain".
However, those lyrics are way too good to have come from Cain, so I can see where there's confusion.

[Arianddu]

Oh .... WCTNGOF ... my all-time fav Journey ballad. Can't help but get weepy every time I hear this song. The emotion Steve displayed singing this song ... laying it all out there. It's almost as if he had a premonition ... that it was to be his last song on his last album with Journey. We know TBF was not a sure deal (10 yrs into the future) ... almost an anomaly, that it happened, really.

The supposed story behind this song is that the band had just finished their last show in Alaska for the Frontiers tour. Jon was still standing in the parking lot and everyone had taken off, going their own way with no immediate plans to see each other again. Standing there alone, Jon began lamenting that the tour was over, and being by himself started composing the song in his head. Not a love song per say, but it seems to be interpreted as one by most of the fans.

Ad now you know the rest of the story.

Given that Perry wrote it, not Cain, the tale is unlikely.

Really? Because I remember specifically in the liner notes of I THINK Time3, Cain saying he was being sentimental when he wrote the song. My memory is far from perfect, but I remember that part...

Writing credits just Perry

Nope... credits are "S. Perry, J. Cain".
However, those lyrics are way too good to have come from Cain, so I can see where there's confusion.

Hmmmm. I shall go check.

Edit - you are quite right. Teach me to shout my mouth off before double checking. Hmmm - wonder why I thought it was just Perry on the credits...

[swataz]

From the Time3 Liner notes, although it doesn't 100% clear it up, seems that Cain wrote it...:

WHY CAN'T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER

(S. Perry-J. Cain) From "Raised On Radio"

Cain intended this piece to represent the fans at a Journey concert, always one of his favorite subjects. "Just me, being sentimental," he said. The final single released by Journey in April 1987 could only manage to eke its way up the charts to #60, a year after the release of the album.

[bluejeangirl76]

From the Time3 Liner notes, although it doesn't 100% clear it up, seems that Cain wrote it...:

WHY CAN'T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER

(S. Perry-J. Cain) From "Raised On Radio"

Cain intended this piece to represent the fans at a Journey concert, always one of his favorite subjects. "Just me, being sentimental," he said. The final single released by Journey in April 1987 could only manage to eke its way up the charts to #60, a year after the release of the album.

To be fair, it doesn't mean Cain wrote it. It means for his part, it came from something sentimental. Perry wasn't involved in the commentaries on those liner notes so you never get his take on any of them (which sucks, but... whattayagonnado)

[Onestepper]

From the Time3 Liner notes, although it doesn't 100% clear it up, seems that Cain wrote it...:

WHY CAN'T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER

(S. Perry-J. Cain) From "Raised On Radio"

Cain intended this piece to represent the fans at a Journey concert, always one of his favorite subjects. "Just me, being sentimental," he said. The final single released by Journey in April 1987 could only manage to eke its way up the charts to #60, a year after the release of the album.

To be fair, it doesn't mean Cain wrote it. It means for his part, it came from something sentimental. Perry wasn't involved in the commentaries on those liner notes so you never get his take on any of them (which sucks, but... whattayagonnado)

Regardless of who penned the lyrics initially, I think it's become clear over the years that Cain has a tremendous ability to start a song with a wedge that grabs your attention, but really needs Perry to deliver the depth of writing that put some of these classics above what they have been producing the last several years.

[swataz]

From the Time3 Liner notes, although it doesn't 100% clear it up, seems that Cain wrote it...:

WHY CAN'T THIS NIGHT GO ON FOREVER

(S. Perry-J. Cain) From "Raised On Radio"

Cain intended this piece to represent the fans at a Journey concert, always one of his favorite subjects. "Just me, being sentimental," he said. The final single released by Journey in April 1987 could only manage to eke its way up the charts to #60, a year after the release of the album.

To be fair, it doesn't mean Cain wrote it. It means for his part, it came from something sentimental. Perry wasn't involved in the commentaries on those liner notes so you never get his take on any of them (which sucks, but... whattayagonnado)

Regardless of who penned the lyrics initially, I think it's become clear over the years that Cain has a tremendous ability to start a song with a wedge that grabs your attention, but really needs Perry to deliver the depth of writing that put some of these classics above what they have been producing the last several years.

Which leaves us with one conclusion. Perry must return...

But of course, that is not going to happen and I don't want to open THAT can of worms for the umpteenth time!!

[Rhiannon]

(whattayagonnado)

Don't believe the hype?

[swataz]

This song is now stuck in my HEAD on repeat....

[KDOUBLEU]

Its a great song no matter who wrote it.

[escapefan]

Its a great song no matter who wrote it.

Agreed! Great freakin song!

[Gideon]

However, those lyrics are way too good to have come from Cain, so I can see where there's confusion.

You're kidding, right?

[Gideon]

@ Enigma:

There is ZERO comparison between the notes in "When You Love A Woman" and the glass-splitting notes at the end of "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever".

I never compared them technically; I simply noted a subjective vocal quality within "When You Love A Woman" that led me to previously believe no one could do the song justice.

I suspect Arnel probably does have the power in his voice to take it on.

Which one?

It's certainly not a coincidence that Schon hasn't dared have that song performed since Perry left the band. He knows full well that his collection of "replacements" had zero shot of tackling that song. Although Perry is superb on WCTNGOF, I don't think it's close to his best performance ever. For me, it will ALWAYS be "Mother Father". There isn't a song in the Journey catalog that illustrates Perry's untouchable brilliance more than that track.

This is where you lose me. "Mother, Father" is technically a more demanding song; probably the most demanding song in Journey's catalogue. Deen Castronovo nails it (and demonstrates greater breath control) from sitting down, playing the drums. So where do you get the idea that no one can tackle "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever"?

Right...and I can't run 5 miles a night like I used to do when I was 25! What's your point? For the millionth time to you Perry detractors....It doesn't matter what Perry can do in 2009, and hasn't mattered in many, many years! Journey is a washed up, 80's band, who has been living off of Perry's immense talent since he left the band. Perry doesn't need to be relevant in 2009. He remains the reason that "Journey" sells any tickets and earn a living off of songs that were made famous by his voice!

I love how I'm suddenly a Perry detractor.

What does this have to do with anything? First, the majority of what you said is entirely subjective. Second, the post you quoted and responded to was a discussion about why Perry isn't touring with them anymore. Fact of the matter is that he has demonstrated range and power that is almost completely dimished; no match for the likes of present-era JSS, SA, or AP.

If your goal was to simply fellate Perry, congratulations, mission accomplished. No one denies what the man had, but the bottom line is that he doesn't have it anymore.

You're "disturbed" that "Don't Stop Believin' gets radio play? Are you fucking serious dude? I think you're smoking from the same bong as Michael Phelps! In spite of your affinity for vocabulary, you sound like a bigger jackass with each post!

Tell me, do you always get such clear Internet capability from under your bridge, troll?

I said I am "disturbed" that songs like DSB get radio play whereas songs like "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever" are ignored in the overall spectrum. You're from Boston, yes? Sounds like you need an optometrist, because the fact that you completely ignored the first part of my sentence suggests a serious problem with your eyesight.

If you're going to flame me, by all means feel free. Just do it right.