Most boring rhythm section in rock

General Intelligent Discussion & One Thread About That Buttknuckle

Moderator: Andrew

Postby Paddywagon » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:38 am

I've got no problem with you, Red... :)

Contrary to what Rock'n'deano had to say, saying one drummer is better than the other is VERY subjective...Sure, Neil Peart going up against a 10 year old girl who's had 3 drum lessons is a no-brainer as to who's better...but saying Alex is worse than Steve, and Steve is worse than Neil (etc., etc.) is mostly opinion...I don't like guys who think their own opinion is gospel.
"Who am I?...Why am I here? the late Admiral Stockdale (Ross Perot Vice-Presidential debate)
Paddywagon
Radio Waves
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:08 am
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Postby Red13JoePa » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:05 am

I'm down with that, I guess PWagon..
I'm not sure if I can pick amongst all these drummers. I know what i like to hear and I like a lot of what I hear out of Smitty and AVH. I don't dislike anything either have done....

Probably Phil Collins and Tommy Lee are my 1 and 1a favorite drummers....But AVH and Smitty and Castronovo (to my mind more in common with AVH than Smith) certainly don't take back seats to those guys. Not a huge Rush dude, so I can't speak to Peart. I know enough that he's on Mt Rushmore of rock drummers. Bass? Eh. Who the hell can tell what's boring? You usually don't notice those guys until they're fucking up.
BG and harmony vox, no question Mikey. His lead on Somebody Get Me A Dr was not to my taste, though. Too screamy and shrill.
"I love almost everybody."---Rocky Balboa 1990
"Let's reform this thing.Let's go out and get some guys who want to work and go do it"--Neal Schon February, 2001
"I looked at Neal, and I just saw a guy who really wants his band back"-JCain 2/01
Red13JoePa
MP3
 
Posts: 11646
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:43 pm
Location: Happy Valley

Postby Paddywagon » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:28 am

Well, Red, FAVORITE drummers is a whole 'nother animal!! :wink:

In my opinion, not only does SKILL come into play, but also TONE!!!


Got to give the top slot to the late John Bonham...such tone, and such power!!

I also like Vinny Appice (sorry Carmine)...He can really lay down a beat, and has a powerful tone as well.

My 3rd choice is Michael Derosier from Heart (late 70's, early 80's)...He really brought a lot to the Sister's Wilson...

Alex Van Halen...His tone is unique, and his cymbal work (especially hi-hat) I like too...

Kenny Aronoff and Steve Jordan...not so much Melodic Rock, but I dig their high "pingy" snare drums... :)

I forgot to put Neil Peart high up in the ranks, too!! He's probably 2nd choice under John Bonham.
"Who am I?...Why am I here? the late Admiral Stockdale (Ross Perot Vice-Presidential debate)
Paddywagon
Radio Waves
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:08 am
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:46 am

That's a good list Paddywagon.
I had forgotten about Kenny Arnoff...nice call!
jrnyman28
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 6730
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2002 2:15 pm

Postby Angiekay » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:28 am



Another name I don't think anybody has mentioned is Carl Palmer. I think he is simply amazing, esp in Asia. He's right up there for me with Neil Peart and Stewart Copeland. Those are my three.








Image
User avatar
Angiekay
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3602
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:15 pm
Location: In a state of confusion

Postby VH101 » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:05 pm

Who listens to the drums anyway?

j/k :wink:
VH101
LP
 
Posts: 401
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:13 pm
Location: suburb of Dallas, Texas

Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:53 am

I thought everybody listened to the drums.
Ya kinda hafta.

PWaggon pulled up a favorite of mine in Steve Jordan. His work with The Ex-Pensive Winos is stellar.
"I love almost everybody."---Rocky Balboa 1990
"Let's reform this thing.Let's go out and get some guys who want to work and go do it"--Neal Schon February, 2001
"I looked at Neal, and I just saw a guy who really wants his band back"-JCain 2/01
Red13JoePa
MP3
 
Posts: 11646
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:43 pm
Location: Happy Valley

Postby Paddywagon » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:29 am

Angiekay wrote:

Another name I don't think anybody has mentioned is Carl Palmer. I think he is simply amazing, esp in Asia. He's right up there for me with Neil Peart and Stewart Copeland. Those are my three.




Ahh, yes, Angiekay...I was gonna include Stewart Copeland in my list, too - Although I hear the guy is kind of irritating in "real life" and kind of a jackass...(like me, I guess :wink: )
"Who am I?...Why am I here? the late Admiral Stockdale (Ross Perot Vice-Presidential debate)
Paddywagon
Radio Waves
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:08 am
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Postby Angiekay » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:05 am

Paddywagon wrote:
Angiekay wrote:

Another name I don't think anybody has mentioned is Carl Palmer. I think he is simply amazing, esp in Asia. He's right up there for me with Neil Peart and Stewart Copeland. Those are my three.




Ahh, yes, Angiekay...I was gonna include Stewart Copeland in my list, too - Although I hear the guy is kind of irritating in "real life" and kind of a jackass...(like me, I guess :wink: )


Hmmm, I'd never heard that. I suppose with his talent and the projects he works on, he is probably a perfectionist. BTW...he has created a documentary of the Police years that is being shown at the Sundance Film Festival this weekend. It's made from all the video he took on tours and when the band was together. He is scouting for a company to release it to DVD. That would be a MUST for my collection.







Image
User avatar
Angiekay
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3602
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:15 pm
Location: In a state of confusion

Postby journeyman8484 » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:40 pm

Alex isn't terrible and neither is Michael.But,Michael's bass solos live(or should I say Jack Daniels solos) have always bored me.Also,on the Live Without A Net DVD,Alex's drum solo bored me.And hitting a gong has to be the lousiest way to start a drum solo.
journeyman8484
Radio Waves
 
Posts: 26
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:38 am
Location: Frederick,MD

Postby kissofdeath » Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:58 pm

I'll be the first to admit the MA is not the flashiest bassist around, but he holds his own to compliment Eddie. AVH is a great drummer, IMO.

Peart and Bonham would have to be the top two in my list.
Simply said, God is Ed...
kissofdeath
Fresh Air
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:54 pm

Postby verslibre » Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:27 pm

journeyman8484 wrote:Alex isn't terrible and neither is Michael.But,Michael's bass solos live(or should I say Jack Daniels solos) have always bored me.Also,on the Live Without A Net DVD,Alex's drum solo bored me.And hitting a gong has to be the lousiest way to start a drum solo.


Alex's and Mikey's solos suck. On LWAN, Alex's is worse, but on L:RH,RN Mikey's is utter crap. B-O-R-I-N-G. No Billy Sheehan is he! But Mike's just there to fill a void; Ed never wanted a bassist that could match him, like Sheehan, who Dave wanted to replace Mike with.
"Heer's ta swimmen wid bowlegged wimmen!"
verslibre
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 6873
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:55 pm

Postby verslibre » Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:28 pm

Angiekay wrote:
Paddywagon wrote:
Angiekay wrote:

Another name I don't think anybody has mentioned is Carl Palmer. I think he is simply amazing, esp in Asia. He's right up there for me with Neil Peart and Stewart Copeland. Those are my three.




Ahh, yes, Angiekay...I was gonna include Stewart Copeland in my list, too - Although I hear the guy is kind of irritating in "real life" and kind of a jackass...(like me, I guess :wink: )


Hmmm, I'd never heard that. I suppose with his talent and the projects he works on, he is probably a perfectionist. BTW...he has created a documentary of the Police years that is being shown at the Sundance Film Festival this weekend. It's made from all the video he took on tours and when the band was together. He is scouting for a company to release it to DVD. That would be a MUST for my collection.


Aw, shit, I gotta have that! The Police rawk! WTF, doesn't Stew have enough dough to self-release? Man, that boy made bazillions in The Police!!!
"Heer's ta swimmen wid bowlegged wimmen!"
verslibre
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 6873
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:55 pm

Postby conversationpc » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:40 pm

Most boring rhythm section in rock? As much as I love AC/DC, I'd have to nominate them.

To those who mentioned Neal Peart as being the best rock drummer out there, I have to agree with that. That guy is the ONLY drummer that I listening to a drum solo from. Very musical rather than just beating the hell out of the drums. He's my favorite drummer not to mention that he's also a great lyricist.
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Postby verslibre » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:42 am

conversationpc wrote:As much as I love AC/DC, I'd have to nominate them.


No kidding. Rudd/Williams do...nothing. I've never heard another band get more out of four-on-the-floor. Still like 'em, tho.
"Heer's ta swimmen wid bowlegged wimmen!"
verslibre
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 6873
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:55 pm

Postby Fernando Ramirez » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:41 am

verslibre wrote:
conversationpc wrote:As much as I love AC/DC, I'd have to nominate them.


No kidding. Rudd/Williams do...nothing. I've never heard another band get more out of four-on-the-floor. Still like 'em, tho.


I would nominate CHEAP TRICK as the most boring rhythm section.

AC/DC's rhythm section is awesome... rock-solid, not boring. I have a compilation CD I made of their hits with Bon Scott, and it is ANYTHING BUT BORING. When you play in the pocket, with dynamics, then you get AC/DC.

There's no way that VH has a boring rhythm section. Whoever said that was stating something ludicrous!!!
User avatar
Fernando Ramirez
45 RPM
 
Posts: 317
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:49 am
Location: San Antonio, TX USA

Postby verslibre » Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:03 am

Fernando Ramirez wrote:
verslibre wrote:
conversationpc wrote:As much as I love AC/DC, I'd have to nominate them.


No kidding. Rudd/Williams do...nothing. I've never heard another band get more out of four-on-the-floor. Still like 'em, tho.


I would nominate CHEAP TRICK as the most boring rhythm section.

AC/DC's rhythm section is awesome... rock-solid, not boring. I have a compilation CD I made of their hits with Bon Scott, and it is ANYTHING BUT BORING. When you play in the pocket, with dynamics, then you get AC/DC.

There's no way that VH has a boring rhythm section. Whoever said that was stating something ludicrous!!!


Tom Petersson & Bun E. Carlos as the "most boring" rhythm section? I beg to differ! Tom pioneered 8 & 12-string bass in rock and made it his trademark (others followed). The guy's a great rock bassist (check out "Gonna Raise Hell"). Bun looks like your 9th grade science teacher but he's easily more versatile than Rudd. That boy can groove. Trust me, when you hear an AC/DC song Williams & Rudd don't do anything but keep time. Not so with Petersson & Carlos! You'd better dig out your Dream Police, At Budokan and All Shook Up albums again. Plus, Cheap Trick's recent studio albums reveal these guys are still crankin'!
"Heer's ta swimmen wid bowlegged wimmen!"
verslibre
Compact Disc
 
Posts: 6873
Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:55 pm

...

Postby Cato Alumni » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:21 am

I couldn't tell from the tone of the text, but was someone seriously comparing Peart to some drummer in Journey? LOL!
Cato Alumni
Radio Waves
 
Posts: 30
Joined: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:35 am

Previous

Return to Snowmobiles For The Sahara

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 27 guests

cron