Week 4 NFL - Power Rankings

[Eric]

http://rikkerpowerrankings.blogspot.com ... eek-4.html

[Enigma869]

The Patriots defeat Baltimore, have the same record Baltimore has, and defeated better teams than Baltimore has, and yet the Ravens are two slots better, according to you? You have a lot to learn about football, my friend! The three games that Baltimore has won are against teams who are a combined 2-10. The 3 wins that the Patriots have are against teams with a combined record of 6-5 and two of the three teams they defeated had a winning record! Baltimore hasn't defeated a single team with a winning record!

[YoungJRNY]

My week 4 Power Rankings NW

1. Indianapolis Colts
2. N.Y Giants
3. New Orleans Saints
4. Minnesota Vikings
5. San Francisco 49'ers
6. Chicago Bears
7. New England Patriots
8. Pittsburgh Steelers
9. Baltimore Ravens
10. Denver Broncos
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11. N.Y Jets
12. Cincinnati Bengals
13. Atlanta Falcons
14. Green Bay Packers
15. Philadelphia Eagles
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16. Miami Dolphins
17. San Diego Chargers
18. Dallas Cowboys
19. Arizona Cardinals
20. Houston Texans
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21. Jacksonville Jaguars
22. Seattle Seahawks
23 Buffalo Bills
24. Carolina Panthers
25. Tennessee Titans
26. Detroit Lions
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27. Washington Redskins
28. Oakland Raiders
29. Cleveland Browns
30. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
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31. Kansas City Chiefs
32. St.Louis Rams

[Ehwmatt]

The Patriots defeat Baltimore, have the same record Baltimore has, and defeated better teams than Baltimore has, and yet the Ravens are two slots better, according to you? You have a lot to learn about football, my friend! The three games that Baltimore has won are against teams who are a combined 2-10. The 3 wins that the Patriots have are against teams with a combined record of 6-5 and two of the three teams they defeated had a winning record! Baltimore hasn't defeated a single team with a winning record!

So have you reevaluated your thoughts on the Ravens a bit? I think it was you who was saying they were "scary good" not long ago, but it mighta been YoungJRNY. Can't remember.

[YoungJRNY]

but it mighta been YoungJRNY. Can't remember.

Not I. I said from the beginning I wasn't sold on the Ravens yet since they played pathetic teams in Kansas City ( who took them to the wire), Cleveland and SD (Who took them to the wire) before battling the Patriots in Foxboro. I said New England would be a true test to see how good Baltimore is since New England is a worthy opponent to challenge them in more ways than one.

I LOVE the Ravens. Their defense has always been STOUT, and now they actually have an offense to match. This is a SCARY team that it going to be tough to beat. I watch a lot of NFL football, and they're the best team I've seen in the AFC thusfar, and I believe that they'll win their division easily, at this point.The Ravens are SCARY good and are the class of their division, and probably the entire AFC right now. As a Patriots fan, I'm just glad they beat a solid Atlanta team this week, because the Ravens are in town next week, and I'm already putting it in the "L" column! At least even after that loss, they'll only suck as bad as Shitsburgh does

(^ John then went on to pick New England by 3. He's a bigger flip flopper than John Kerry (no pun intended) in the '04 Election. )

I pretty much agree on some points. I feel the Chargers aren't as nearly as good as their record, and Tennessee is losing tough battles week in and week out. Pittsburgh has a lot of things to work on, including finishing football games. They start the game looking to route, then somewhere along the way, stall to let a team back in it, esp in the 4th quarter. Denver is the worst 3-0 team in all of football and the Jets are finding early success with a defense that brings heat from every angle.

The Ravens I'm not completely sold on. Yes, they look like the best all around team in the AFC, but they were taken to the wire in Week 1 against a terrible Kansas City team, won on a last second 4th down stop last week against a decent at best Chargers team, and beat up on a Pee Wee football team in the Browns today, but you can't deny their style of football. I think this week New England's offense will put major, major pressure on a Baltimore team that needs to face an opponent worthy of beating them.

[Enigma869]

So have you reevaluated your thoughts on the Ravens a bit? I think it was you who was saying they were "scary good" not long ago, but it mighta been YoungJRNY. Can't remember.

Honestly, every week in the NFL things need to be evaluated. If you read my predictions for this past week, I explained why I thought the Patriots would beat Baltimore and they did. I still think Baltimore is a very good team and their offense is absolutely for real! They may even be better than the Patriots are by the end of the season. I'm simply saying that after 4 weeks, the Patriots are the better team, regardless of what your method of evaluation is! I've predicted all four Patriots games correctly (including their loss to the Jets), so for all of you degenerate gamblers...I'm telling you that for the third weekend in a row (next Sunday), the Patriots will hand an undefeated team their first loss of the season!

[Ehwmatt]

So have you reevaluated your thoughts on the Ravens a bit? I think it was you who was saying they were "scary good" not long ago, but it mighta been YoungJRNY. Can't remember.

Honestly, every week in the NFL things need to be evaluated. If you read my predictions for this past week, I explained why I thought the Patriots would beat Baltimore and they did. I still think Baltimore is a very good team and their offense is absolutely for real! They may even be better than the Patriots are by the end of the season. I'm simply saying that after 4 weeks, the Patriots are the better team, regardless of what your method of evaluation is! I've predicted all four Patriots games correctly (including their loss to the Jets), so for all of you degenerate gamblers...I'm telling you that for the third weekend in a row (next Sunday), the Patriots will hand an undefeated team their first loss of the season!

Gotcha

[Eric]

The Patriots defeat Baltimore, have the same record Baltimore has, and defeated better teams than Baltimore has, and yet the Ravens are two slots better, according to you? You have a lot to learn about football, my friend! The three games that Baltimore has won are against teams who are a combined 2-10. The 3 wins that the Patriots have are against teams with a combined record of 6-5 and two of the three teams they defeated had a winning record! Baltimore hasn't defeated a single team with a winning record!

I think you're right....thats a mistake. I let a couple friends talk me into that Balty should have won that game. I shall take into consideration for next week.

[Rockindeano]

How do you two niptards have Cincinnati 12th and 13th when they are a fluke play away from being 4-0? Denver is not all that and Cincy beat Pittsburgh's sorry asses.

[YoungJRNY]

How do you two niptards have Cincinnati 12th and 13th when they are a fluke play away from being 4-0? Denver is not all that and Cincy beat Pittsburgh's sorry asses.

Throwing out who beat who, and records alone, I STILL think that Cinci will be in the middle of the pack this year and they just aren't that great of an overall team. They aren't going wiggle their way through the NFL season like they did the past two games every week. At one time, the Browns held them to just 30 yards and the Steelers held them to just 10 yards through 2 Qrts. Cincinnati is winning on 4th down conversions and if you think good teams have to come to that point week in and week out, and expect them to win like that when getting dominated statistically then you might want to re-think how things work. Cinci is not a good 3-1 team and that's why I have them below many teams who I just think are better, regardless of record.

[S2M]

How do you two niptards have Cincinnati 12th and 13th when they are a fluke play away from being 4-0? Denver is not all that and Cincy beat Pittsburgh's sorry asses.

Throwing out who beat who, and records alone, I STILL think that Cinci will be in the middle of the pack this year and they just aren't that great of an overall team. They aren't going wiggle their way through the NFL season like they did the past two weeks every week. At one time, the Browns held them to just 30 yards and the Steelers held them to just 10 yards through 2 Qrts. Cincinnati is winning on 4th down conversions and if you think good teams have to come to that point week in and week out, and expect them to win like that every week when getting dominated statistically then you might want to re-think how things work. Cinci is not a good 3-1 team and that's why I have them below many teams who I just think are better, regardless of record.

What did Tuna say?

'You are what you are' 'You are what your record states'

[YoungJRNY]

How do you two niptards have Cincinnati 12th and 13th when they are a fluke play away from being 4-0? Denver is not all that and Cincy beat Pittsburgh's sorry asses.

Throwing out who beat who, and records alone, I STILL think that Cinci will be in the middle of the pack this year and they just aren't that great of an overall team. They aren't going wiggle their way through the NFL season like they did the past two weeks every week. At one time, the Browns held them to just 30 yards and the Steelers held them to just 10 yards through 2 Qrts. Cincinnati is winning on 4th down conversions and if you think good teams have to come to that point week in and week out, and expect them to win like that every week when getting dominated statistically then you might want to re-think how things work. Cinci is not a good 3-1 team and that's why I have them below many teams who I just think are better, regardless of record.

What did Tuna say?

'You are what you are' 'You are what your record states'

That's copin' out and taking the high road. I'm talking about the big picture. Look at the way the Bengals have won/played the past few weeks..they aren't what you call a dominating team that teams should fear and worry about at this point. Yes, they are winning, and are sitting 3-1, but I expect that record to start closing in on them as the season progresses and slowly but surely, "Tuna's" theory will remain true as I think Cinci will own the record they deserve and that'll be the result of poor play. They got lucky the past few weeks and came out on the winning side of teams who shot themselves in the foot! It'll catch up to them, guaranteed, starting next week with Baltimore!

[S2M]

How do you two niptards have Cincinnati 12th and 13th when they are a fluke play away from being 4-0? Denver is not all that and Cincy beat Pittsburgh's sorry asses.

Throwing out who beat who, and records alone, I STILL think that Cinci will be in the middle of the pack this year and they just aren't that great of an overall team. They aren't going wiggle their way through the NFL season like they did the past two weeks every week. At one time, the Browns held them to just 30 yards and the Steelers held them to just 10 yards through 2 Qrts. Cincinnati is winning on 4th down conversions and if you think good teams have to come to that point week in and week out, and expect them to win like that every week when getting dominated statistically then you might want to re-think how things work. Cinci is not a good 3-1 team and that's why I have them below many teams who I just think are better, regardless of record.

What did Tuna say?

'You are what you are' 'You are what your record states'

That's copin' out and taking the high road. I'm talking about the big picture. Look at the way the Bengals have won/played the past few weeks..they aren't what you call a dominating team that teams should fear and worry about at this point. Yes, they are winning, and are sitting 3-1, but I expect that record to start closing in on them as the season progresses and slowly but surely, "Tuna's" theory will remain true as I think Cinci will own the record they deserve and that'll be the result of poor play. They got lucky the past few weeks and came out on the winning side of teams who shot themselves in the foot! It'll catch up to then, guaranteed, starting next week!

Ok Trav....I can't figure out by your response if you agree or disagree with my statement? You start off by saying it is a 'cop out', then you basically make my point by the end. WTF?

[YoungJRNY]

How do you two niptards have Cincinnati 12th and 13th when they are a fluke play away from being 4-0? Denver is not all that and Cincy beat Pittsburgh's sorry asses.

Throwing out who beat who, and records alone, I STILL think that Cinci will be in the middle of the pack this year and they just aren't that great of an overall team. They aren't going wiggle their way through the NFL season like they did the past two weeks every week. At one time, the Browns held them to just 30 yards and the Steelers held them to just 10 yards through 2 Qrts. Cincinnati is winning on 4th down conversions and if you think good teams have to come to that point week in and week out, and expect them to win like that every week when getting dominated statistically then you might want to re-think how things work. Cinci is not a good 3-1 team and that's why I have them below many teams who I just think are better, regardless of record.

What did Tuna say?

'You are what you are' 'You are what your record states'

That's copin' out and taking the high road. I'm talking about the big picture. Look at the way the Bengals have won/played the past few weeks..they aren't what you call a dominating team that teams should fear and worry about at this point. Yes, they are winning, and are sitting 3-1, but I expect that record to start closing in on them as the season progresses and slowly but surely, "Tuna's" theory will remain true as I think Cinci will own the record they deserve and that'll be the result of poor play. They got lucky the past few weeks and came out on the winning side of teams who shot themselves in the foot! It'll catch up to then, guaranteed, starting next week!

Ok Trav....I can't figure out by your response if you agree or disagree with my statement? You start off by saying it is a 'cop out', then you basically make my point by the end. WTF?

No, I'm using your statement and incorporating it into mine saying by the end of the season, the record will EVENTUALLY indicate what Parcell's said, and by that I mean that Cincinnati's record will reflect on them BOMBING the rest of the season and getting what they deserve. Seeing 3-1 this early in the season doesn't mean a team is GOOD, but once the season breaks open, I feel Cincinnati will falter and the end result will be more legit once they meltdown (My prediction.) A record after 16 games is "you are what your record indicates" not 4 games in. Get what I'm trying to say by comparison?

[S2M]

I get it now. I'm still reeling from the Pat's win over Baltimore. And my Lions getting bitch slapped.

[YoungJRNY]

I get it now. I'm still reeling from the Pat's win over Baltimore. And my Lions getting bitch slapped.

As a Steelers fan, I'm loving the fact of N.E's victory over Baltimore. Exactly what we needed as far as the division race is concerned. As for Detroit, they played Chicago tough out the gates, but eventually lost a battle against a better team with better weapons. Detroit played the same way last year as well but just was out-manned as the game progressed. They aren't built for the long run, but their early signs of maturity in phases should have their fans excited for the future.

[Enigma869]

Even though it pains me to admit it, I actually agree with Travis about the Steelers being better than the Bengals. I certainly don't agree with all of his "power rankings", but I would also rank the Steelers ahead of Cincinatti. While the Steelers aren't nearly as good as Travis thinks they are...they're simply a better team than the Bengals and at the end of the season, their record will prove that!

[YoungJRNY]

Even though it pains me to admit it, I actually agree with Travis about the Steelers being better than the Bengals. I certainly don't agree with all of his "power rankings", but I would also rank the Steelers ahead of Cincinatti. While the Steelers aren't nearly as good as Travis thinks they are...they're simply a better team than the Bengals and at the end of the season, their record will prove that!

I know the Steelers have a lot of work to do, and there are area's of concern and I'll admit that every time when being discussed. With that said, I still think they will iron these things out and get back to being a team in the thick of things in the middle of the season, they have a good team and will win in the long haul, that's just the way they are built right now. I'm clearly aware that the Steelers aren't the best team in the league, and know they got work to do, but I think they are better of what you give them credit for. I understand you hate them, as I do New England probably more than you hate Pitt, but even though New England is a shell of their former self, they will almost 90% of the time, find ways to win, and the Steelers and Patriots are very similiar in regards to that formula.

[Eric]

How do you two niptards have Cincinnati 12th and 13th when they are a fluke play away from being 4-0? Denver is not all that and Cincy beat Pittsburgh's sorry asses.

HOOH...NIPTARDS!

Cincy nearly lost to a terrible Clevetown team though