Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[verslibre]

Yeah, well, lemonade is definitely appropriate.

Damn, I want to see a rough cut, too. No fair!

[YoungJRNYfan]

I can't believe it took THIS long to get THIS Batman:

[verslibre]

The fight choreo is going to be a-may-zang!

[YoungJRNYfan]

The themes Snyder is touching upon between Superman and Batman are going to be amazing:

Zack Snyder on Batman in Batman v Superman.

"How can we know Superman? We live by his good graces. We make assumption that he will always be good and never turn on us… Can we trust him? These are themes similar to those that orbited Superman-satire Doctor Manhanttan in Snyder’s Watchmen. Superhero or god? “He’s having a crisis of conscience,” says Snyder of his Dark Knight: “Am I really just a vigilante who stalks the alleys of Gotham?’ It is rich stuff that he deals with. Ben does an amazing job.”

[verslibre]

Yo, Tra-el, Mile High is unloading a row of original Superman art pages at $100 a pop. Do a search for "Superman Original Art" and "Action Comics Original Art."

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=01073010064%2048

[verslibre]

They've also reduced this to $120, which is cheaper than any copy on eBay, except...(see below)

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=enlarge&issue=83941514312%201



...THIS one, which has a bid at its starting price of $30. You can see all the paintings, too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1978-SUPERMAN-THE-MOVIE-Collectors-Portfolio-of-Jim-Dietz-Original-Art-/161801694147?hash=item25ac21ebc3

^There's only one problem with the auction above, though. I'm sure you'll see it.

[Monker]

The themes Snyder is touching upon between Superman and Batman are going to be amazing:

Zack Snyder on Batman in Batman v Superman.

"How can we know Superman? We live by his good graces. We make assumption that he will always be good and never turn on us… Can we trust him? These are themes similar to those that orbited Superman-satire Doctor Manhanttan in Snyder’s Watchmen. Superhero or god? “He’s having a crisis of conscience,” says Snyder of his Dark Knight: “Am I really just a vigilante who stalks the alleys of Gotham?’ It is rich stuff that he deals with. Ben does an amazing job.”

We know Superman from decades of "truth, justice, and the American Way". To take all of the history and ignore it is just plain stupid. To have to EXPLAIN it to the public is a horrid sign that the entire premise of the movie is flawed and people are simply not going to understand what the hell is going on. Comparing BvS to Watchmen is right on...maybe Superman will take some time off and go to Mars to talk to John Carter about their future in feature films.

[verslibre]

So how did you like Fantastic Four, Monker? Or as people pronounce it, Fant4stic ("fant-four-stick")?

[verslibre]

To take all of the history and ignore it is just plain stupid.

So you're no longer a troll, you're a supertroll. Got it.

Last I checked, he still comes from Krypton and stands for "truth, justice, and the American way." He even pretty much says so at the end of Man of Steel. Stop trying so hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG3V88cXubo

[Monker]

So how did you like Fantastic Four, Monker? Or as people pronounce it, Fant4stic ("fant-four-stick")?

I have about as much desire to see that, or Antman, as I do to see Fury Road.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Man of Steel played out with Superman working closely with the United States Government to defeat General Zod and his terraforming ploy. Without that close connection and trust in that third act, Earth would have been turned into new Krypton.

At the end of MoS, General Swanwick still has doubts to convince Washington D.C to fully trust Superman and Superman HIMSELF says he's about as "American as it gets."

In the BvS trailer (we're talking the first 10 seconds ) we LITERALLY see Superman being confronted by our Congress and I'm SURE we'll be hearing his side of the story. That's about as "Truth, Justice and the American Way" as it can get

That's the point in character building this version of Superman. He's going to have to earn everyone's trust, unlike the usual Superman stories where the public immediately accepts Superman as their savior. It's a welcoming change to see this story play out in cinema. It's fresh and the possibilities moving forward create more opportunities in future storytelling.

[Monker]

To take all of the history and ignore it is just plain stupid.

So you're no longer a troll, you're a supertroll. Got it.

Last I checked, he still comes from Krypton and stands for "truth, justice, and the American way." He even pretty much says so at the end of Man of Steel. Stop trying so hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG3V88cXubo

Maybe you should remind Zack Snyder. He's the one who said, "We make assumption that he will always be good and never turn on us… Can we trust him?"

We make that assumption because of decades of history. His one film is not the sole defining moment to those who assume to 'know' Suyperman.

[verslibre]

Funny how you show up to take the DCEU to task over everything. Spider-Man's about to appear in the MCU for the first time in Civil War. In and out. The next movie, which is yet another reboot, isn't an origin movie. That doesn't seem to bother you. Black Panther plays a significant role in Civil War, but his solo/origin/debut film comes afterward. Funny, you don't seem to have a problem with that, but you've condemned BvS and Suicide Squad before you've seen either.

And you don't want to see Fury Road...your loss, buddy.

[YoungJRNYfan]

To take all of the history and ignore it is just plain stupid.

So you're no longer a troll, you're a supertroll. Got it.

Last I checked, he still comes from Krypton and stands for "truth, justice, and the American way." He even pretty much says so at the end of Man of Steel. Stop trying so hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG3V88cXubo

Maybe you should remind Zack Snyder. He's the one who said, "We make assumption that he will always be good and never turn on us… Can we trust him?"

We make that assumption because of decades of history. His one film is not the sole defining moment to those who assume to 'know' Suyperman.

That's not 'Zack Snyder' saying that. Snyder was foreshadowing Batman's character in the film. Read the title again where that quote came from. It's "Zack Snyder on Batman in 'Batman V Superman.'"

What Snyder explains in the quote is Batman's mindset. It's in total character to what Batman thinks of Superman, plot wise to the movie, not us (the audience.) The audience knows who Superman is and the moral compass he stands for. WE know that. But Batman doesn't and not every human is sold either in this movie-verse. It's like a 3rd person type thing where the audience knows who Superman is, but strings are being pulled by a 3rd party in the movie preventing a character like Batman to see it. It's Superman's job, in the movie, to prove it. That's why you watch it. That's what they're setting up.

[verslibre]

He's what they call a "quick-shooter."

[The_Noble_Cause]

Man of Steel 2 debunked. Superman sequel said to be on "permanent hold." No surprises here.


http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/superman ... anent-hold

[verslibre]

Rhetoric. There's no script for it yet. They obviously want George (or somebody) to direct it, but since info was already bubbling to the surface without anyone's consent, they slapped an "on hold" sticker on it to nip the chatter.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Rhetoric. There's no script for it yet. They obviously want George (or somebody) to direct it, but since info was already bubbling to the surface without anyone's consent, they slapped an "on hold" sticker on it to nip the chatter.

Seems highly doubtful. The gossip for more Affleck Batman films continues uninterrupted. Why? Because those Bat films will actually see the light of day. Man of Steel 2 joins Green Lantern 2 on the scrapyard of stillborn franchises.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Man of Steel 2 debunked. Superman sequel said to be on "permanent hold." No surprises here.


http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/superman ... anent-hold

Check the source there, lmao. Denofgeek? That site is below-below the bottom of the trash can rumor sites. First of all, "permanent hold" makes absolutely no sense. They are even confused by what they are writing in that article. It's site click-bait running with a prior leak or story.

Here's the thing, though. Nothing can be on "permanent hold" when there's absolutely nothing attached to the movie in the first place. There's no director as of yet, no screen play or no plot for Man of Steel 2.

Warner is going to focus on the DCEU first before getting to another Batman or Superman film. I expect The Batman/Superman film to be announced for around 2018/2019. Until then, Batman and Superman will appear in BvS, JL 1 and JL 2, let alone other movies more likely like Wonder Woman (Batman is also in SSquad and we already had Cavill in MoS.)

Speculation of who would be directing a Man of Steel 2 film down the road is valid since we begin with that, but to put the movie on "permanent hold" is flat out a retarded way to approach it.

A Batman or Superman film isn't even on the slate as of now. When Warner Bro's released their slate of movies, a Batman and Superman film had unannounced dates but they are in the plan. It's all going to depend on where they see them fitting in once Justice League gets rolling.

Until Warner Brothers or a main site like Variety report it, it's all rumors, including the George Miller bit. The "Bat solo" or "Bat trilogy" was never announced either. Just rumor right now. Lets get to BvS first and roll from there.

[verslibre]

Seems highly doubtful. The gossip for more Affleck Batman films continues uninterrupted. Why? Because those Bat films will actually see the light of day. Man of Steel 2 joins Green Lantern 2 on the scrapyard of stillborn franchises.

MoS2 was always scheduled to come after the next crop of films. BvS is done, Suicide Squad is moving into postproduction, Wonder Woman is in preproduction, and Justice League is written. Ben Affleck and Geoff Johns are writing The Batman.

Batman talk will never cease because he's one of the hottest characters out there. I think Wonder Woman will be the next big character after we actually see her onscreen.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Snyder has a huge room in his Snyder-cave dedicated to the DCEU and how it will all fit in and play out. After BvS and SSquad, it's going to be Wonder Woman and Justice League. After that, it's all about placing the next set of movies and where it all fits, storywise. Affleck is rumored to be the director of The Batman, but nothing, as of yet, has been confirmed. Rumors are rumors. All we DO know is Warner Brother's slate of movies (that they confirmed) with a Superman and Batman solo in the plans. It's all about getting to the others like Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern Corps, etc before getting to another Batman and Superman solo that will probably lead us into the next phase of storytelling. I expect the Batman and Superman movie to come out around 2018-2020, fit right into their announced movie slate.

[verslibre]

Check the source there, lmao. Denofgeek? That site is below-below the bottom of the trash can rumor sites. First of all, "permanent hold" makes absolutely no sense. They are even confused by what they are writing in that article. It's site click-bait running with a prior leak or story.

The article is barely more than a bloated tweet: "...another source has said that, as far as they understand it, the sequel is on "permanent hold."

"Another source." Total BS. They have no sources. :lol

MoS didn't break any records but it didn't underperform, either. 660M worldwide is nothing to sneeze at, plus the 100M it earned from DVD sales.

[verslibre]

Snyder has a huge room in his Snyder-cave dedicated to the DCEU and how it will all fit in and play out. After BvS and SSquad, it's going to be Wonder Woman and Justice League. After that, it's all about placing the next set of movies and where it all fits, storywise. Affleck is rumored to be the director of The Batman, but nothing, as of yet, has been confirmed. Rumors are rumors. All we DO know is Warner Brother's slate of movies (that they confirmed) with a Superman and Batman solo in the plans. It just all about getting to the others like Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern Corps, etc before getting to another Batman and Superman solo that will probably lead us into the next phase of storytelling. I expect the Batman and Superman movie to come out around 2018-2020.

Studios shuffle movies around all the time. After The Winter Soldier blew away Thor 2, Marvel took their sweet time putting together the next one. Civil War was fast-tracked while Thor 3 didn't even have a script, changing up the release schedule. When they staged their Hollywood event, we learned Thor: Ragnarok was scheduled for November 2017, which means a four-year gap between solo Thor movies.

Amazing Spider-Man 2 grossed more than MoS but it's considered a failure because of how much they spent to make and promote it. It's not stopping them from making more Spidey movies.

P.S. Green Lantern Corps, right? The Ryan Reynolds movie isn't stopping WB. Once BvS and SS are out, everyone will be whistling a different tune.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Its' from a no mark site. None of the trades have reported this. Bottom line is, BvS doesn't come out for another 7 months and people (read: clickbait sites) are wildly looking for things to talk about. WB have already said there will be standalone Batman and Superman films.

[verslibre]

Maybe this is why Ragnarok is stalled.

https://vine.co/v/ehBeBmPa3HL

[verslibre]

Its' from a no mark site. None of the trades have reported this. Bottom line is, BvS doesn't come out for another 7 months and people (read: clickbait sites) are wildly looking for things to talk about. WB have already said there will be standalone Batman and Superman films.

It's the equivalent of IMDb message board upshakin.'

[YoungJRNYfan]

Snyder has a huge room in his Snyder-cave dedicated to the DCEU and how it will all fit in and play out. After BvS and SSquad, it's going to be Wonder Woman and Justice League. After that, it's all about placing the next set of movies and where it all fits, storywise. Affleck is rumored to be the director of The Batman, but nothing, as of yet, has been confirmed. Rumors are rumors. All we DO know is Warner Brother's slate of movies (that they confirmed) with a Superman and Batman solo in the plans. It just all about getting to the others like Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern Corps, etc before getting to another Batman and Superman solo that will probably lead us into the next phase of storytelling. I expect the Batman and Superman movie to come out around 2018-2020.

Studios shuffle movies around all the time. After The Winter Soldier blew away Thor 2, Marvel took their sweet time putting together the next one. Civil War was fast-tracked while Thor 3 didn't even have a script, changing up the release schedule. When they staged their Hollywood event, we learned Thor: Ragnarok was scheduled for November 2017, which means a four-year gap between solo Thor movies.

Amazing Spider-Man 2 grossed more than MoS but it's considered a failure because of how much they spent to make and promote it. It's not stopping them from making more Spidey movies.

P.S. Green Lantern Corps, right? The Ryan Reynolds movie isn't stopping WB. Once BvS and SS are out, everyone will be whistling a different tune.

Not only does BvS feature the two greatest pop culture icons sharing the big screen for the first time; BvS is also the first ever cinematic debut of the greatest female pop culture icon in Wonder Woman. After BvS, the demand to see more Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman (the Holy Trinity) will be so high and on fire that there's going to be no choice but to focus on those 3. They will be the tentpole of this DCEU, especially Batman/Superman first and foremost. BvS is going to break some records and there's too much money to be made off of these 3 on film. It's just getting started.

[The_Noble_Cause]

MoS2 was always scheduled to come after the next crop of films. BvS is done, Suicide Squad is moving into postproduction, Wonder Woman is in preproduction, and Justice League is written. Ben Affleck and Geoff Johns are writing The Batman.

So Hollywood is waiting until 2019/2020 to release a sequel to a 2013 film? Riiight. It's simply not happening.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Amazing Spider-Man 2 grossed more than MoS but it's considered a failure because of how much they spent to make and promote it. It's not stopping them from making more Spidey movies.

On this point, I agree. Studios someday down the line will probably recast Cavill and try again. Just like they did with Routh. And just like Spidey is getting rebooted (again).

[verslibre]

MoS2 was always scheduled to come after the next crop of films. BvS is done, Suicide Squad is moving into postproduction, Wonder Woman is in preproduction, and Justice League is written. Ben Affleck and Geoff Johns are writing The Batman.

So Hollywood is waiting until 2019/2020 to release a sequel to a 2013 film? Riiight. It's simply not happening.

Superman isn't absent. You'll see him in: BvS (2016), Justice League (2017-2018) and who knows what else.

I wouldn't trust an article on Den of Geek reporting hearsay (which is more than likely false).