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texafana wrote:(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:tx shoulda been banned from the outset. he and RobbieG can take the trip together and start their own I hate JSS for absolutely no reason forum.
Banned for fkin what lady?!?!?! I don't know what the fk you're talking about!! I like JSS quite alot, when he sings >rock<. Don't care for him fronting Journey, don't care for the r&b rap type stuff. Love the new wet material. If you research my posts on JSS, this is the exact type of material I've been looking for from him. Get your shit accurate before you jump on some misinformed "banned" wagon.Ehwmatt wrote:He's too ballsless so he has to resort to passive aggressive nonsense... I've seen it every where he posts, from commenting on Jeremey's posts, to Journey threads, to this thread. Man up and speak your mind clearly
Get over yourself, what an ass u r. Not even worth replying to.
Andrew, is this really worth an extended reply? C'mon..it's the off topic forum and I replied "you can't be serious" when someone said "all the professionalism" on this forum. It was not an attack on you personally. Looking over the replies it appears some misinformed users assumed I was talking about "you" and this entire website. Which was simply not the case.
Rick wrote:texafana wrote:(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:tx shoulda been banned from the outset. he and RobbieG can take the trip together and start their own I hate JSS for absolutely no reason forum.
Banned for fkin what lady?!?!?! I don't know what the fk you're talking about!! I like JSS quite alot, when he sings >rock<. Don't care for him fronting Journey, don't care for the r&b rap type stuff. Love the new wet material. If you research my posts on JSS, this is the exact type of material I've been looking for from him. Get your shit accurate before you jump on some misinformed "banned" wagon.Ehwmatt wrote:He's too ballsless so he has to resort to passive aggressive nonsense... I've seen it every where he posts, from commenting on Jeremey's posts, to Journey threads, to this thread. Man up and speak your mind clearly
Get over yourself, what an ass u r. Not even worth replying to.
Andrew, is this really worth an extended reply? C'mon..it's the off topic forum and I replied "you can't be serious" when someone said "all the professionalism" on this forum. It was not an attack on you personally. Looking over the replies it appears some misinformed users assumed I was talking about "you" and this entire website. Which was simply not the case.
I've got a list of reasons why you should be banned. I have a big list. #1, You're a fraud. I'll list 2 through 10 if I need to.
Ehwmatt wrote:Rick wrote:texafana wrote:(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:tx shoulda been banned from the outset. he and RobbieG can take the trip together and start their own I hate JSS for absolutely no reason forum.
Banned for fkin what lady?!?!?! I don't know what the fk you're talking about!! I like JSS quite alot, when he sings >rock<. Don't care for him fronting Journey, don't care for the r&b rap type stuff. Love the new wet material. If you research my posts on JSS, this is the exact type of material I've been looking for from him. Get your shit accurate before you jump on some misinformed "banned" wagon.Ehwmatt wrote:He's too ballsless so he has to resort to passive aggressive nonsense... I've seen it every where he posts, from commenting on Jeremey's posts, to Journey threads, to this thread. Man up and speak your mind clearly
Get over yourself, what an ass u r. Not even worth replying to.
Andrew, is this really worth an extended reply? C'mon..it's the off topic forum and I replied "you can't be serious" when someone said "all the professionalism" on this forum. It was not an attack on you personally. Looking over the replies it appears some misinformed users assumed I was talking about "you" and this entire website. Which was simply not the case.
I've got a list of reasons why you should be banned. I have a big list. #1, You're a fraud. I'll list 2 through 10 if I need to.
Can i get a 2-10 Rick
ProgRocker53 wrote:So I listened to most of W.E.T. last night while driving around with my lady. I'll be checking it all out again a few times this weekend, and I'll write a review for it.
I like it. A lot. I wouldn't give it a 100% but it's very damn good. My girlfriend and I agree that it's probably one of Soto's best albums of any kind, and that the musicianship is stellar. If my girlfriend gets into a melodic rock album and really likes it, that's when I know it's good.
It's more consistent than other past JSS works. I agree with him in the fact that JSS has a ton of brilliant material, but a lot of filler too.
This album, doesn't have a "filler" vibe anywhere at all. Very good stuff.
Ehwmatt wrote:[
I'd give it damn close to 100%. I'm not even a huge fan of JSS ........
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
JSS Rocks! wrote:
That was the deal. There is really no debating it. IF you bought Revelation, then you simply don't have to listen to disc 2....It's not like you paid extra $$$ for it.
Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
ProgRocker53 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
+1
Albums like this make me realize just how much more talent there is out there in the genre than just Journey.
Damn WET kicks ass.
Ehwmatt wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
+1
Albums like this make me realize just how much more talent there is out there in the genre than just Journey.
Damn WET kicks ass.
I haven't stopped listening to this album yet this week, I've listened to it back and forth every day on the way home and back. Great driving music
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:[
I'd give it damn close to 100%. I'm not even a huge fan of JSS ........
awesome. none of us were fans at all either before the 1st time we heard him.
It was a band wagon thing at first... Neal sez I gotta new singer for my new project, Soul SirkUS. and we said Ok, let's hear him.
but Jeff has kept us on the 'wagon' ever since. Right for Journey or not is moot at this point--they needed him, he said yes, we did it with them, it went bust, he moved on we moved on with him/them. Move forward don't look back. NEVER LOOK BACK-JUST MARCH ON---W.E.T.
doesn't matter where he's been, where he's goin. take it as it comes. He's just good. period.
ProgRocker53 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
+1
Albums like this make me realize just how much more talent there is out there in the genre than just Journey.
Damn WET kicks ass.
Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
Gunbot wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
As a rock album, I agree. WET is what Fro always promises but never delivers on because of Friga's three Kleenex clause for all of their albums.
Rockindeano wrote:JSS Rocks! wrote:
That was the deal. There is really no debating it. IF you bought Revelation, then you simply don't have to listen to disc 2....It's not like you paid extra $$$ for it.
Maybe not, but the band and it's blowhard fanbase sure like to "count" that piece of shit redo disc as sales for their false Platinum status don't they? No matter how you slice it, Revelations still hasn't sold a million units.
Michigan Girl wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
+1
Albums like this make me realize just how much more talent there is out there in the genre than just Journey.
Damn WET kicks ass.
I haven't stopped listening to this album yet this week, I've listened to it back and forth every day on the way home and back. Great driving music
THIS^^^^is GREAT NEWS!!! Thanks, Matty...can't wait!!
StocktontoMalone wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
+1
Albums like this make me realize just how much more talent there is out there in the genre than just Journey.
Damn WET kicks ass.
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Deb wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How have people heard the whole album already? Is it leaked somewhere? I promise I won't tell...
I have. It's solid, it's strong and overall good. I have it nowhere to a 100, but it's definitely in the 90's, maybe a 94/95. I do respect Mac's decision and I really thought he would think long and hard before giving this review a 100, knowing some sonofabitches would come in and do exactly as they have. Is it better than Revelation? I don't know, as I haven't listened to that gold disc yet, but listening to a few songs and the rest of the clips of Revelations' strongest, and listening to WET, WETS overpowers Rev.
WET fucks Rev in every way except maybe lead guitar playing. production, songwriting, overall performances, track flow, backing vocals etc... way better. I can't say enough about how astounding the background vocals are on WET. Layer upon layer. I can't even fathom how they recorded the backing vocals in the If I Fall chorus
+1
Albums like this make me realize just how much more talent there is out there in the genre than just Journey.
Damn WET kicks ass.
I haven't stopped listening to this album yet this week, I've listened to it back and forth every day on the way home and back. Great driving music
THIS^^^^is GREAT NEWS!!! Thanks, Matty...can't wait!!
Can't get enough of this one. You're going to love this cd MG!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWoaB95dtx4
YoungJRNY wrote:I'm a fucking weird mother fucker and I'm going to patiently wait for the CD to come out in stores Nov. 26th in the U.S. Judging from the reviews from all around, I'm bustin' to get my hands on it, but my damn stubbornness is getting in the way of listening to some clips. I'm eager and highly excited for this one.
JasonD wrote:I read the review & listened to the tracks & especially like the songs “Just Go” & “Running From The Heartache.” This sounds like a CD I would like to add to my collection, but I’m confused about its release. If I’m reading the release date information correctly, it says that W.E.T. will be released on November 6th but only in Europe? Is that what I’m seeing?
kgdjpubs wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:I'm a fucking weird mother fucker and I'm going to patiently wait for the CD to come out in stores Nov. 26th in the U.S. Judging from the reviews from all around, I'm bustin' to get my hands on it, but my damn stubbornness is getting in the way of listening to some clips. I'm eager and highly excited for this one.
don't take this the wrong way, but unless you have seen other similar releases available from the label, I wouldn't expect to actually be able to find it on November 26. At minimum, I would plan on doing some serious checking around to see if the preferred store will actually stock it. You have to remember the economics. This isn't Journey. It's not Foreigner. It will likely sell 500-1000 copies in the US total. That means finding it will be a chore, unless you know a place that likes to carry releases that are not expected to sell much.
Personally, I'd suggest going to www.nehrecords.com, which is out of Colorado. They are stocking the European version, which is out on November 6. Ordered from them many a time in the past, and never even the slightest problem. It's a much safer option than trying to locate the cd in a regular store once the "release date" happens.
kgdjpubs wrote:JasonD wrote:I read the review & listened to the tracks & especially like the songs “Just Go” & “Running From The Heartache.” This sounds like a CD I would like to add to my collection, but I’m confused about its release. If I’m reading the release date information correctly, it says that W.E.T. will be released on November 6th but only in Europe? Is that what I’m seeing?
yes, basically. There is apparently going to be a US release later. That being said, you are talking about a release that will probably sell 5-10k copies total--and 90% of that number will be from European sales. The US market for this is negligible. Europe has an AOR/Melodic Rock scene, albeit a very small one. The US does not. Doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the cd (it's pretty good!), but just the simple economics of the situation. If you want a copy, you are better off mail-ordering the European version.
Jana wrote:kgdjpubs wrote:JasonD wrote:I read the review & listened to the tracks & especially like the songs “Just Go” & “Running From The Heartache.” This sounds like a CD I would like to add to my collection, but I’m confused about its release. If I’m reading the release date information correctly, it says that W.E.T. will be released on November 6th but only in Europe? Is that what I’m seeing?
yes, basically. There is apparently going to be a US release later. That being said, you are talking about a release that will probably sell 5-10k copies total--and 90% of that number will be from European sales. The US market for this is negligible. Europe has an AOR/Melodic Rock scene, albeit a very small one. The US does not. Doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the cd (it's pretty good!), but just the simple economics of the situation. If you want a copy, you are better off mail-ordering the European version.
wow, that's it, five to ten thousand copies? That's a shame, but, true, I don't know many people that buy AOR music, especially lesser-known releases. Maybe b/c of three members from different bands it will be more b/c of their fans. Touring this CD would definitely help those sales.
kgdjpubs wrote:JasonD wrote:I read the review & listened to the tracks & especially like the songs “Just Go” & “Running From The Heartache.” This sounds like a CD I would like to add to my collection, but I’m confused about its release. If I’m reading the release date information correctly, it says that W.E.T. will be released on November 6th but only in Europe? Is that what I’m seeing?
yes, basically. There is apparently going to be a US release later. That being said, you are talking about a release that will probably sell 5-10k copies total--and 90% of that number will be from European sales. The US market for this is negligible. Europe has an AOR/Melodic Rock scene, albeit a very small one. The US does not. Doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the cd (it's pretty good!), but just the simple economics of the situation. If you want a copy, you are better off mail-ordering the European version.
kgdjpubs wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:I'm a fucking weird mother fucker and I'm going to patiently wait for the CD to come out in stores Nov. 26th in the U.S. Judging from the reviews from all around, I'm bustin' to get my hands on it, but my damn stubbornness is getting in the way of listening to some clips. I'm eager and highly excited for this one.
don't take this the wrong way, but unless you have seen other similar releases available from the label, I wouldn't expect to actually be able to find it on November 26. At minimum, I would plan on doing some serious checking around to see if the preferred store will actually stock it. You have to remember the economics. This isn't Journey. It's not Foreigner. It will likely sell 500-1000 copies in the US total. That means finding it will be a chore, unless you know a place that likes to carry releases that are not expected to sell much.
Personally, I'd suggest going to www.nehrecords.com, which is out of Colorado. They are stocking the European version, which is out on November 6. Ordered from them many a time in the past, and never even the slightest problem. It's a much safer option than trying to locate the cd in a regular store once the "release date" happens.
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