Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[YoungJRNYfan]

George Miller passed on 'Akira'; Interested in Man of Steel 2
http://screenrant.com/george-miller-akira-man-steel-2/

[verslibre]

Greg Capullo has revealed a portion of the line art for his DK III #1 variant cover. Greg draws the ongoing Batman comic. Two thumbs up.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/capullo-tease-1e693.jpg

[YoungJRNYfan]

NY Comic Con!

[Abitaman]

I have read different blogs that state this Lex, is really the son of the Lex we know from the comics. And others that state This Lex jr. is the real Lex of he comics. Been reading DC since 1970 and from what I remember from the various reboots and changes that this character still fits in as the real Lex.

[YoungJRNYfan]

From the total garbage I've read from trash sites that state Eisenberg isn't playing Lex Luthor is utter shit. Those sites exist only to garner click bait and write stuff they have no clue about when it comes to the source material. A-LEX-ander Luthor IS Lex Luthor we all know and Eisenberg is playing Lex Luthor. In BvS, he just happens to be named after the son of his father, hence, the Jr. I swear people are Dipshit's only for the sake of being one. In the most recent interpretations, Lex's father in the comics and in Smallville was named Lionel Luthor but in this continuity, it's simply Alexander Luthor and Lex Jr is the Lex we know. Don't read the BS.

[verslibre]

No idea who or what their "source" is, but Den of Geek has reported that Wonder Woman will take place across three different time periods: the distant past, World War I, and the present day.

But this is the paragraph I like the best:

Another interesting tidbit is the possibility of Wonder Woman's outfit changing three times throughout the course of the film to coincide with each new era. Although not confirmed, it would make the most sense as she tries to acclimatize to each new setting she's introduced to.

https://games.yahoo.com/news/wonder-woman-movie-reportedly-takes-170002175.html

[verslibre]

What George Miller Would Do with Superman

"I think it's been said many times before: [Superman] is potentially a very boring character because he has no faults," he explained. "So you really have to find his demons really to get an internal conflict going. You've really got to do that. Whether that's by an external agency or something deep inside himself. You need that conflicted character."

That's what made the Greek gods so great. I mean they were jealous, vengeful, hubristic. They had all these things going for them. I think that’s why Batman’s such an interesting character because he’s human, so he’s just like us. He’s relatable, rather than someone who’s just perfect.”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/07/what-george-miller-would-do-with-superman

[YoungJRNYfan]

No idea who or what their "source" is, but Den of Geek has reported that Wonder Woman will take place across three different time periods: the distant past, World War I, and the present day.

But this is the paragraph I like the best:

Another interesting tidbit is the possibility of Wonder Woman's outfit changing three times throughout the course of the film to coincide with each new era. Although not confirmed, it would make the most sense as she tries to acclimatize to each new setting she's introduced to.

https://games.yahoo.com/news/wonder-woman-movie-reportedly-takes-170002175.html

Believe Den of Geek. They were the first ones to report the BvS IMAX trailer information before anybody else and was DEAD ON. Of course, El Maybe took credit to be the first one to break it, but he didn't. I was on the boards when Den of Geek broke their news about it. They are small, but reliable.

[YoungJRNYfan]

What George Miller Would Do with Superman

"I think it's been said many times before: [Superman] is potentially a very boring character because he has no faults," he explained. "So you really have to find his demons really to get an internal conflict going. You've really got to do that. Whether that's by an external agency or something deep inside himself. You need that conflicted character."

That's what made the Greek gods so great. I mean they were jealous, vengeful, hubristic. They had all these things going for them. I think that’s why Batman’s such an interesting character because he’s human, so he’s just like us. He’s relatable, rather than someone who’s just perfect.”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/07/what-george-miller-would-do-with-superman

Sick and tired of this "relatable" comparison bullshit. If you can relate to Batman, you are one fucked up individual. Clark Kent is neon's more relatable than Bruce Wayne will ever be. Clark Kent grew up with loving parents. He grew up on a farm. He was taught morals. He had childhood friends. He's had childhood crush's. He went to school. He played sports. He has a demanding job. He has co-workers. He works in the big city. He's a smalltown dude with a humbling nature. If people and writers would just understand Clark's emotions more, he would be one of the best written characters today...but people just don't get him right.

Bruce Wayne never had those things. He is human, but yet, is written as the "BatGod." Some of his feats....as a human....are downright ridiculous and on par with the greatest feats a superhero could own. Bruce Wayne is the mask. He's Batman at heart. Superman is Clark Kent in a suit. The only difference is Superman is the blueprint of the word superhero. Supes is THEE epitome of the word and people/fans hold it against him without knowing that Clark is one of the most human over all of them at heart regardless of his alien origin. Bruce is cold and bloodthirsty.. a tortured soul and likes it that way.

[verslibre]

Believe Den of Geek. They were the first ones to report the BvS IMAX trailer information before anybody else and was DEAD ON. Of course, El Maybe took credit to be the first one to break it, but he didn't. I was on the boards when Den of Geek broke their news about it. They are small, but reliable.

Good to hear. I wasn't sure if they "got" their info from a previous "scoop" made by the dreaded HH. CBR reported it, and they linked to the Yahoo article, which in turn referenced DoG. It's one big merry-go-round.

[verslibre]

Sick and tired of this "relatable" comparison bullshit. If you can relate to Batman, you are one fucked up individual. Clark Kent is neon's more relatable than Bruce Wayne will ever be. Clark Kent grew up with loving parents. He grew up on a farm. He was taught morals. He had childhood friends. He's had childhood crush's. He went to school. He played sports. He has a demanding job. He has co-workers. He works in the big city. He's a smalltown dude with a humbling nature. If people and writers would just understand Clark's emotions more, he would be one of the best written characters today...but people just don't get him right.

Bruce Wayne never had those things. He is human, but yet, is written as the "BatGod." Some of his feats....as a human....are downright ridiculous and on par with the greatest feats a superhero could own. Bruce Wayne is the mask. He's Batman at heart. Superman is Clark Kent in a suit. The only difference is Superman is the blueprint of the word superhero. Supes is THEE epitome of the word and people/fans hold it against him without knowing that Clark is one of the most human over all of them at heart regardless of his alien origin. Bruce is cold and bloodthirsty.. a tortured soul and likes it that way.

I look at this way: Superman is country, Batman is rock 'n' roll.

Don't take what George says too seriously. I watched the video where those comments came from, and George looks like he does NOT want to answer questions concerning MoS2. I'm convinced it's at least "on the table," pending his making another movie first. If he's thinking about it, he's not supposed to talk about it — or he just can't talk about it. But he could have easily said nothing. Instead, he makes a few remarks.

Characters like Batman will always get the "relatable" tag because non-superpowered characters do. The "good old boys" like Superman and Captain America fall in and out of vogue, but they're always there, and they'll never go away, because they're the pillars who support their respective universes.

When Wonder Woman shows up, even Batman is going to take a back seat for a spell!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Believe Den of Geek. They were the first ones to report the BvS IMAX trailer information before anybody else and was DEAD ON. Of course, El Maybe took credit to be the first one to break it, but he didn't. I was on the boards when Den of Geek broke their news about it. They are small, but reliable.

Good to hear. I wasn't sure if they "got" their info from a previous "scoop" made by the dreaded HH. CBR reported it, and they linked to the Yahoo article, which in turn referenced DoG. It's one big merry-go-round.

Wait, I lied lol. Den of Geek weren't the ones to break that news. I got them mixed up with Geekaphilia. Den of Geek are one of those BS scoopers. My bad!

[verslibre]

[YoungJRNYfan]

Head over to SHHype v...the Main Discussion thread. New York Comic Con is in full swing and the BvS Campaign has begun. So many cool things! Too much to post here. It's beginning...

[verslibre]

Head over to SHHype v...the Main Discussion thread. New York Comic Con is in full swing and the BvS Campaign has begun. So many cool things! Too much to post here. It's beginning...

It's madness! I want that cap with the Bat emblem.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Per SHH:

Marvel just announced a few films today (Ant-man and the Wasp sequel and two unnamed films for 2020) so it' not outside the realm of possibility that WB/DC announce some movie stuff.

[verslibre]

Knightmare!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Seems like the Desert Storm Batman and Superman Soldiers are all apart of a Bruce Wayne Nightmare scene.

[verslibre]

Yeah. I figured it was a vision. Probably Wondy's.

So that badass Bat hat is a NYCC exclusive.

[verslibre]

Per SHH:

Marvel just announced a few films today (Ant-man and the Wasp sequel and two unnamed films for 2020) so it' not outside the realm of possibility that WB/DC announce some movie stuff.

Did you see DisMarvelney kicked their Captain Marvel movie back to March 2019?

[YoungJRNYfan]

Per SHH:

Marvel just announced a few films today (Ant-man and the Wasp sequel and two unnamed films for 2020) so it' not outside the realm of possibility that WB/DC announce some movie stuff.

Did you see DisMarvelney kicked their Captain Marvel movie back to March 2019?

Yep. They continue to be scared of their female led characters. Looks like Wondy will be going up against Cars III, which is good for Wondy.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Yeah. I figured it was a vision. Probably Wondy's.

So that badass Bat hat is a NYCC exclusive.

The New Era hats are fucking sweet! I might get all 3 of them to display. The leather one's/New Era will be available to us next year. The NYCC exclusive are the ones sitting in front of the suit displays with the NYCC patch on the side.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Hah!

[YoungJRNYfan]

[YoungJRNYfan]

[verslibre]

Did you see DisMarvelney kicked their Captain Marvel movie back to March 2019?

Yep. They continue to be scared of their female led characters. Looks like Wondy will be going up against Cars III, which is good for Wondy.

Like the one guy said, better that than Toy Story 4.

[verslibre]

That email shit is hilarious.

The New Era hats are fucking sweet! I might get all 3 of them to display. The leather one's/New Era will be available to us next year. The NYCC exclusive are the ones sitting in front of the suit displays with the NYCC patch on the side.

The all-black one is NYCC-exclusive, right? No doubt they'll show up on eBay for ridiculous asking prices.

[YoungJRNYfan]

That email shit is hilarious.

The New Era hats are fucking sweet! I might get all 3 of them to display. The leather one's/New Era will be available to us next year. The NYCC exclusive are the ones sitting in front of the suit displays with the NYCC patch on the side.

The all-black one is NYCC-exclusive, right? No doubt they'll show up on eBay for ridiculous asking prices.

Yeah, those are exclusives but they'll turn up somewhere. I like the leather ones. Freakin' sweet.

[Monker]

Sick and tired of this "relatable" comparison bullshit. If you can relate to Batman, you are one fucked up individual. Clark Kent is neon's more relatable than Bruce Wayne will ever be. Clark Kent grew up with loving parents. He grew up on a farm. He was taught morals. He had childhood friends. He's had childhood crush's. He went to school. He played sports. He has a demanding job. He has co-workers. He works in the big city. He's a smalltown dude with a humbling nature. If people and writers would just understand Clark's emotions more, he would be one of the best written characters today...but people just don't get him right.

Bruce Wayne never had those things. He is human, but yet, is written as the "BatGod." Some of his feats....as a human....are downright ridiculous and on par with the greatest feats a superhero could own. Bruce Wayne is the mask. He's Batman at heart. Superman is Clark Kent in a suit. The only difference is Superman is the blueprint of the word superhero. Supes is THEE epitome of the word and people/fans hold it against him without knowing that Clark is one of the most human over all of them at heart regardless of his alien origin. Bruce is cold and bloodthirsty.. a tortured soul and likes it that way.

I look at this way: Superman is country, Batman is rock 'n' roll.

Don't take what George says too seriously. I watched the video where those comments came from, and George looks like he does NOT want to answer questions concerning MoS2. I'm convinced it's at least "on the table," pending his making another movie first. If he's thinking about it, he's not supposed to talk about it — or he just can't talk about it. But he could have easily said nothing. Instead, he makes a few remarks.

Characters like Batman will always get the "relatable" tag because non-superpowered characters do. The "good old boys" like Superman and Captain America fall in and out of vogue, but they're always there, and they'll never go away, because they're the pillars who support their respective universes.

When Wonder Woman shows up, even Batman is going to take a back seat for a spell!

George is absolutely right. It is funny how he is basically repeating exactly what I said months ago.

People do NOT relate to perfect human characters who grow up in a perfect house with a perfect family and a perfect childhood. People are flawed. People have issues. They have issues within their family. They have issues with how they were raised. They have internal issues with themselves. Imperfection and struggle is what people relate to because that is life. The only person who can relate to a Superman without any flaws was nailed to a cross 2000yrs ago.

And, in a situation like BvS, where you have two supposedly "good" characters struggling with each other...the audience needs to KNOW those flaws BEFORE the conflict begins so they can relate to the characters and and care about them. THEN the writer can set up the contrast between the characters...to not do so is BAD story telling.

He is also right in how the flaws are exploited by the villan and how the hero is forced to confront them. The only real flaw that is ever exploited with Superman is his love of Lois. MoS attempted to expand on this into being a love of humanity. However, I don't think they did it very well - at all, and most people just don't get it.

Also, Superman may be the perfect "hero" in that he is essentially invincible. But, he is not the perfect hero in the sense of story telling. He did nothing to earn his powers. A true hero suffers through tortures of the viillan exploiting his weaknesses and flaws...and he overcomes them with sacrifice, pain, struggle, and the help of those he surrounds himself with. He then earns the reward of power. In that sense, the story telling perspective, Batman is by FAR the true model for a hero.

And, finally, George is correct in what he says about the Greek (and later Roman) gods. Those stories have lasted forever because of their flaws...because people can relate to them and care. Even Zeus has flaws, the ruler of the gods is a flawed character who lusts after mortal women and is a controller, a manipulator, and power hungry.

So, what George is saying is if he gets ahold of Superman, he's is going to create a flawed character....because he KNOWS flawed characters are relatable and are what make great story telling. If he is not allowed to instroduce flaws and conflicts into who Superman, I doubt he will take on a Superman project. And, if he does as he says, i doubt comic book nerds will like the idea of Superman as a flawed character...because it deviates from the comics.

[YoungJRNYfan]

And, if he does as he says, i doubt comic book nerds will like the idea of Superman as a flawed character...because it deviates from the comics.

Wrong. Read more.

People do NOT relate to perfect human characters who grow up in a perfect house with a perfect family and a perfect childhood. People are flawed. People have issues. They have issues within their family. They have issues with how they were raised. They have internal issues with themselves. Imperfection and struggle is what people relate to because that is life. The only person who can relate to a Superman without any flaws was nailed to a cross 2000yrs ago.

Watch Man of Steel again. Read his books. It's the best way to gain knowledge rather than regurgitating things you don't necessary have much knowledge in. Clark didn't have a perfect childhood. He was bullied. Labeled a freak. Was told to hide his powers. As a little child, X-Ray vision tormented him as he saw human guts and skeletons. Super-hearing made him paranoid and full of anxiety. Heat vision burned his eyes. Pa Kent gave his life for a young Clark to keep his secret hidden from a world that would tear him apart. The internal struggle is real with Superman in all mediums. You just have to attempt to realize it other than pretend it isn't there. People say the things you say simply because they don't understand all angles of the character and that's a shame. It's an unfair stigma.